I think a MK1 Ford Focus st170 would be a smart investment right now. 1500 quid for one in decent shape, spruce it up a little and leave it in a garage for 5 years.
Predicting future classics is usually about identifying cars that are currently cheap, but won't be for long so you should get in now. Most of these cars have already jumped in value in recent years.
I agree. Future classics that are at the bottom of their depreciation curve, less than 10 grand I'd say. Clio Williams are rare as fk now, how can they be a future classic, they already have been a classic for the past 10 years smh........
Agree, when I see someone saying an E46 M3 is a future classic......in my opinion some possible future classics are the Pegueot RCZ-R, the Lexus SC430 and the Lexus LC500, also the Kia Stinger. All share a common thing, great cars that were not sold a lot, then 15-25 years later people start realizing they were actually good cars and there you go...
He missed a hole bunch I have been spective for many year on the future classic market ' VW Corrado VW lupo GTi Ford focus At Volvo 850R saloon or Wagon Volvo V70 R Mercedes slk55 mag Mercedes Clk55 AMG BMW 135i manual Audi RS4 manual Audi S3 first Gen Alfa 145 cloverleaf Alfa Romeo 155 V6 Alfa Spider 3.0 busso manual Alfa Brera V6 manual Mini cooper manual Jaguar XJS condition and Cabrio Most importantly is condition and lower the miles the better ' These cars are still affordable
For me the car I keep coming back to is the Honda S2000,JDM versions in AP1 from Japan are fetching the equivalent of €30,000 before shipping & taxes etc,get one with the matching hardtop!
No harm, you thought with your big head and im above everyone else attitude you really have lost a lot of followers,you lost big Ed for a start!! That’s when things went tits up mr Brewer... bangers and cash has blown you completely out of the water!!! You do know you have lost absolutely all respect from the British public don’t you 🙈🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
The Lexus LS is spot on Mike. Here in the US low mileage clean original cars are appreciating exponentially. At the local dealer auction one with 50k sold for $7600. That car 5 years ago would have been $2500.
Interesting; the "modern classic" car market exists only because advantage can be taken of the nostalgia of those with a lump sum from their early retirement Final Salary pension. Flush with cash, they decide that they want to own the car they, or their Dad, always wanted. Take fas an example, the Ford Escort RS 2000, of course these are a classic with rarity and enough to make them special, and because of this they are expensive. They can't find/afford one of these so settle for the lesser models, this eventually ends up with dross like the Mk2 Escort 1.3 L selling at auction for £10K. It's not a classic; it was slow, undesirable, boring and dull when new, never mind now. It's no wonder that a couple of years later the same car is back at the auction with only a few miles more on it after the buyer of this "classic" has removed their Rose tinted specs and realised just how awful it really was and remains. There are "Modern Classics" but for them to be so they have to have something that made them special when they were new. Mike's example of the Clio Williams is a good choice, the Mk1 Golf GTI, especially if you can find a RHD 1.6 version with the small rear lights, is another. More recent 21st Century choices would be BMW Mini R53 Cooper S with the Supercharger, or the Fiat 595 Abarth, This doesn't mean the other models of these cars in poverty trim with asthmatic engines are future classics just because the desirable versions are unavailable/too expensive. An example of this madness was at a recent "classic" auction when a Baby-shit brown Vauxhall Astra 1.3L, in far from concourse condition, sold for £10K!
@@boabm6522 Exactly. When I'm out on my motorbike and filter though a queue of slow moving traffic on an A Road almost always at the front is some crappy 1980's Escort or Astra in poverty trim, belching out fumes struggling to go more than 40mph. Often I smell them long before I see them.
Funny ending :) Mr. Brewer, first of all, I am a big fan and huge admirer, but: 1. Clio Williams - they are gone. You cant find a good one and if you do, it is very expensive already. It was for a reasonable price long time ago. 2. Audi R8 - absolutely agree 3. Mazda RX-7 - come on , it is a unicorn, it is impossible to find one :) 4. Lexus LS - maybe you are right, I have respect for your experience. 5. Porsche 924 - not interesting. I think 944 has a future, but not 924. And what about 928? I am chceking prices from 2017, when, I thinq, the prices were on the bottom. Since then, they are still rising and it is not so cheap car now...
I used to have a 924S with low miles. Damn it. One car to also look out for is the Crossfire SRT6. Supercharged AMG engine and only 105 right hand drive hard tops ever made. I am putting my 440hp one up for sale sometime in the next year or so.
Mk1 Ford focus st170 will be a future classic in 5 yrs. After 10 years you will see them at 10k. Today they are around for just 800 quid needing work and some are asking 5k for clean low mileage examples.
Wow - amazing foresight. Im in awe of somebody able to pick out future classics that are already appreciating, because they are already.....future classics. Well done Mike - must have taken literally seconds of research.
Lol I'm surprised you splits would know anything about cars. Stick to what you know, if you can think of anything yo-yo and leave Mike to what he knows. Thank You come again.
Lexus - you must be pi**ed Brewer!! That is a barge and it's not going to happen the way things are going with the environment - same with RX7.924 ok - although never going to cut with the aficionados is it! Williams Renault - yes, support that one. Every Jag a classic - I don't think so! prices of the S etc are pretty awful and likely to remain there, as with some of the XJs as well. Try harder mate I'd say!!
20 years ago people would have laughed if anyone said an XR3 would be a classic, or going further back a mk 1 Cortina. Taste is a strange thing. Having been in the trade for 40 years I look back at cars that have passed through my hands and wince. Stuff that was just a car for sale then is now a classic. Example a low mileage, one owner 1.9 205gti I was glad to see my money back on, now a classic,
classic cars prices explained, when men get to a certain age they get the urge to try and re live their youth because life and cars were better back then even though in reality they probably weren't, the boomer generation craved for 60s cars like Anglias, Zephyrs etc so the prices shot up but as the Boomers died off the prices levelled out, along came Generation X craving for 80s cars like 205 gti, xr2, cavaliers etc so prices shoot up, next lot to come along will be the Millennials craving for Ford Fiesta ST, Saxo etc so get investing 😎
I so miss this car scene in Britain since I emigrated to Western Australia in 2014 (Big Mistake). All they have here is junk Holdens, Fords and Toyota that are through the roof. There's no real car scene to follow, unless you grow a mullet and drink Emu Export.
I think the classic car world is going to end by 2035 there will be no fuel to drive them, Times are changing very fast, and not good for the people who like classic cars. Put simple it's over.
I'm not sure how the 1989 to 94 Lexus LS400 could be more of a classic than either the Mercedes S-Class or the BMW 7 series of the same model years?? Doesn't make sense...
Good video, all decent cars. It's not difficult to pick a future classic at any budget. Whatever you choose, buy the best you can afford because you love it and not just for an investment.
I have noticed that the audi tt mk1. 3.2 quattro and to some extent the mk2 3.2 also have stabilised and slowly rising, albeit with low mileage a d service history..
What about the first gen Audi A8? It has a timeless shape, fully made of aluminium, so no rust, and was solidly built. Well, the TDI version would at least be my choice😇
Good shout on the R8 but honestly I think clean air regulations will kill off most of the cars made in the last 10-15 years. At least in the UK youre only really safe if you've got something from 1981 and before
Hi Mr beer looks like I've subscribed you taught me a lot over the years how to wheel and deal and bugha me is actually ,worked when I bought my new motor thousands of pounds of a new car lovely jubbly Mr beer🤣😅😆😁😄😃😀👍 £24000 sir not on your bloody Nelly mate 17 grand cash in hand and I'll take the bloody thing is that cash SIR hold out your hand son I just bought a new motor😇
The REAL investments are "Future classics" that are cars that you can buy for CHEAP! in 2022 I will give you some CHEAP "Future classics" These are cars that can be bought CHEAP in 2022 but WILL go up in price. 1) Toyota Celica MK 6 (1993-1999) These can be bought for peanuts 2nd hand in 2022 but WILL go up in price for sure. 2) Nissan 350z (2002-2009) These can still be bought cheaply ..But WILL go up in price in Years to come. 3) Honda Civic Type R (2001-2006) These WILL go up in price for sure. 4) Most SAAB models .. can be bought for peanuts in 2022..Just watch them go up in price. 5) Rover 25/45/75/100 These can STILL be bought cheaply but WILL go up in price (Yes we ALL know about the head-gasket issue..but this can be resolved for around £400) That said it will be interesting to see what will happen once the ban on brand new petrol/diesel cars kicks in in the Year 2030...Yes I know petrol/diesel cars will still be allowed to use the road, But the Government will simply "Price them off the road" It will be like... OH yes, you can STILL use your petrol/diesel car on public roads no problem... BUT THE ROAD TAX WILL BE £5000 A YEAR. Once the sale of brand new petrol/diesel cars ends on 31st December 2029... Just WATCH the running costs of petrol/diesel cars go through the roof in a bid to get them all off the road.. By the Year 2040, the only petrol/diesel cars you will see using public roads in the UK will be vintage cars being used on a bank holiday weekend or at classic car shows. People who have bought petrol/diesel cars brand new in 2027-2028-2029 will get Government incentives to scrap their cars by around 2035 (ish) It's all been YEARS in the planning by the Government.
Hi Mike how are you . What about e46 325i auto sport with 108.000 miles on in black full black leather seats black roof liner and has had the airbag recall done by bmw it has the m pack on it I paid 2500 a year ago good service history. No rust as having rear arches repaired. . Will I make a profit do you think Mike.
People on here moaning that he picked “already noted as future classics” - the car arena is just a wankers paradise. What is it you expect? that he has an ability to nominate cars that are still in production so you can go and but one for £2000 and leave it in the garage for 20 years and it will be worth £30K? Just like that. Thick as shit. Classic car denomination rarely gets decided until you can’t readily find one anymore. It takes an amount of iconic status, a fear of scarcity, nostalgia and something about who it broadly served that makes it a classic. You can guess at any point in current motoring history what they might, how useful it is comes down to when you buy it. Turn of the century M5 ST 220 Nissan 200 SX VR6 manual S2000 All of these fit the bill but it could be argued that the S2000 is already beyond the future status when you see the current prices which are solid and rising. But what do you want?
ALL cars and motorcycles become future classics, you don’t need too many brain cells to know that. Thinking back to the 60s and 70s When you could buy a Ford cortina for. Few quid . And an old Triumph speed twin for £20. These things are going for many thousands now.. Non of this is because they were good because they weren’t, it’s because older people who owned them back then now have VERY deep pockets.. and that’s the only reason....
Mike Brewer, please engage brain before opening mouth. I know it's tough but try to think really hard about the expression "... will be a future classic". Notwithstanding that the discussion is actually about price, please consider "... is a future classic" or "... will be a classic". Next you'll be saying "little Mini" ......... doh!
Anything manual and fast. Audi R8 V10 manual will be continue to increase in value (when I said this few years ago, people said I was mad). They'll be worth an absolute fortune in 5 years. Also older Mazda RX7's are undervalued! Get one NOW while they still (incredibly in 2021) cheap! Later models are worth 40k now.
once you take design into account much humbler cars come into play, that's where design counts-nostalgia, so the 'weird' VW Beetle, with the wind-noise in the driver's ear, these new 'Italian' Jeeps, with the terrible residual value, the 1970's Toyota Land Cruisers with the straight 6 chevy engines-start collecting Australians and South Africans, the Yanks will buy right-hand drive-the truck starts and goes but only 'wakes up' after fifty metres like the great engines of old, and countless others, it's the Fiat 500 original factor, including Alfa Romeo Spyder; among tractors, any Ford, Lamborghini gathering dust in a barn, and old John Deere, again check South Africa and Australia (rust free), also look there for the Bristol Beaufighter and Jensen Healey which went abroad in greater numbers than people realize. Nothing's crap, really, least of all Fiat 124.
With 2050 just around the corner you more than likely, in developed countries at least, won't be permitted to drive or even start any of these machines with an internal combustion motor. How will that bode for today's classic collector as far as investment goes?.
