As a Braves fan, 100%. That game could’ve gone on for another 5-10 since they didn’t have the runner starting on 2nd rule then. But the Braves have also had their share of bad calls like the last one.
The umpire's argument wasn't that the runner beat him, it was that the tag was missed. It appears to be a bad call, but other angles don't show definitively that he was tagged. Basically it appears to be the wrong call but it's not as egregious as it looks on first glance.
They tried. Hernandez sued because the MLB was trying to keep him out of the world series. (Since he was already banned from pee wee, little league, pony league, high school, college and the minor leagues, he'd have nowhere to officiate).
How about when the umps can get in players faces when they make an error. They can be fallible, I guess they want there umps to be perfect. Bunch of overpaid whiners.
They did between 1998 and 2006 due to the infamous 1997 NLCS Livan Hernandez game. After 2007, Selig thought it was negligible. Suddenly, Joe West, Bob Davidson, and Angel Hernandez started making themselves the centers of attention by the end of the 00s.
Hell to the fuck no. It is a game of human error. If the ump’s strike zone is a bit off, that’s ok. Swing if it’s close, that’s the first thing they teach you when you pick up a bat. If you let the ump ring you up on a questionable call, then you should have been swinging at that close pitch. Keep the machines out of the game.
These umpires think that people show up to see them. A good umpire should be never noticed. I love when these umpires show up to games wearing some sort of special arm band or color in support for X. Nobody cares about them, but they just have to make their presence known.
I can forgive an ump if the ball is just off the edge and gets called a strike...but that Joe Nathan pitch was WAY low and WAY outside. That call, along with the one with the Pirates at the end just reek of the umpire wanting to go back to the hotel.
@@tpresto9862 "If you watch the replays." That right there says that it's not nearly as obvious as everyone says it is. Also, are you sure? Because every replay angle tells a very vague story on what happened. If reviews existed back then, it likely would've stood as called. So... safe.
I'd check out the Foolish Baseball video on the subject. It still may not have been correct but definitely calls into question the certainty of the tag and may have been the right call.
@corbywant976 I wish you could look me in the face and tell me you believe computers would make the same amount of pitch errors. You'd still be wrong and dumb, but then I could laugh at you.
To even the score, how about umpires get to chew out the players and throw a fit like a toddler when they make an error. Additionally, call the players “fragile” if they don’t appreciate such a deal.
@@DatChegg There’s a difference between taking criticism and having an asshole manager screaming in your face who’s never been behind home plate in his life.
Umpiring is the only occupation in the history of mankind that I am 3000% ok with being automated by computers. It isn't even that all umpires are bad. So much as it is there isn't a single good one among them.
These MLB umpires must know that AI is being studied as a way of eliminating some of them permanently from the game (to save on costs). The technology exists now. It might help if a new timing rule (we have all of these new clock rules) would require that an umpire cannot actually remove a player from a game until the middle of the next inning after the all important slight that was the ground for the ejection (according to the umpire). That would give them time to cool off and save what reputation some of them have who put their egos before the game. I have always thought that so many of these umpires so wished they could actually play the game instead of judging the players who do that they just have an uncontrollable urge to somehow some way be noticed in the game. Pitiful indeed.
The worst call ever was the "safe" call at first base, on what should've been the final out of the game for the Tigers against my Indians. I didn't want the perfect game against my team, but he earned it. I still can't believe it, to this day. Even the Cleveland announcers couldn't believe it. If they had instant replay at that time, it would've corrected a HUGE mistake.
Hat em or love em, these moments are insanely entertaining and is the exact reason why they haven't implemented reviews for bad calls. It gets people talking, players lose their shit and people get tossed out. It's all for the sake of entertainment.
Remember the first of the worst, Ron Luciano (who later unalived himself)? He admitted in his ghost written "autobiography" that he would intentionally make calls favouring the home team so that games ended early (8 1/2 innings instead of nine).
Wouldn't call them robots, but AI technology exists that could replace most umpires completely. It is being looked at. Don't you know the umpires union is pissed at this. But eliminating a few millionaires' jobs should not be that big a deal to improve a sport.
I was an umpire for a part time job when i was just out of highschool. I can tell you without a doubt that as a lineman its the easiest thing to see a foul ball hot inside the line in fair play. Theae major league umps are horrible. Its almost every official is corrupt.
MLB needs to do something about the officiating. I understand that blue is human, and all sports have some question marks, but the officiating in professional baseball is beyond inexcusable
All players and coaches have every right to be upset at umpires because they just don’t know how to call baseball games the right way! If you don’t want to do your job right then you should just quit before it gets worse
god was such a good compilation video until the end. You should remove the last one (as it was the correct call) and re upload. I see that play in so many compilations and it makes people seem like they don't understand how the infield fly rule works. It's the person who camps under the ball not the location of the ball. If the shortstop were to be standing at the warning track and camped underneath a fly ball that would be an infield fly rule. That was the correct call.
You are correct, and the purpose of that rule is to prevent an intentional "mistake" that would turn the play into a double play because players can't leave the bags on a short fly like this. However, the play looks bad because clearly this was not an intentional mistake and they clearly miscommunicated.
3:50 i don’t remember who, can probably find it by looking it up, but someone did a full break down of this play and determined that the call was right. There were plenty of camera angles and though it was very close, there was no video confirmation of him actually touching him with the glove. Seemingly easy call but he was in the right calling him out, at least imo
there needs to a change in the game, Teams need to have a IN-GAME way to eject a ump from the game. These PEOPLE are injecting themselves into a game between two teams as PLAYER 3 and completely fucking over teams.
In my admittedly fantasy world, a player will refuse to leave the field, if unjustly ejected. The umpires will forfeit the game to the other team, but the “loosing” team will join their ejected teammate and refuse to leave. The police may arrest everybody, but when the details of the situation get out, Manfred and conpany will be everybody’s favorites #sarcasm. Call me melodramatic and unrealistic, but SOMEBODY has to take the gloves all the way off against these umpires who go on power trips.
I think of batter waited a couple moments call might there way. I say that because umpire might feel they are showing them up by immediately going toward first base. I think also some of these umpires just want the game to end, so they call it a strike to end the game. That umpire threw the catcher out because the ball missed his glove should be fined and suspended. Catcher didn't see umpire was trying to give him the ball.
From pro sports to youth athletics. Refs and umps always think they are the most important people on the field. Now don't get me wrong we need them. But check your own personal ego at the door.
you know we are all human and will make mistakes,now with that said if i was this bad a my job i would be fired,,, umps need replaced with radar maybe keep them on bases but todays refs are making the same mistakes time and time again,not to mention the ones that are getting a kick back
Braves have always been screwed over by the refs in the biggest moments. Refs have a thing for the Braves or something. That that 2nd to last video it was later ruled that it was actually a great call the catcher missed the tag, should have keep his glove there would have gotten him.😂
3:40 I will die on this hill. He's safe. Catcher absolutely whiffs the tag. If you're a professional athlete, the least you can do is your job, which is to tag the fuckin guy
I certainly wouldn't die on that hill, but it is definitely possible the tag was missed. It's way too close to tell. In any case, that play shouldn't be featured in bad umpiring videos.
@1:06 Transcript Holt: "God" - (looks at ump's face) "D*MN IT" * tossed * Holt: "I didn't say anything to you!" Holt: "That's a f*cking ball" Announcer: "Holt is trying to indicate to Joe West he wasn't yelling at HIM, he was angry at himself" Sure, because when I'm angry at myself I yell "that's a f*cking ball" at the ump
Apparently baseball doesn't like attracting new fans. Why on Earth would I want to watch a game where the Umpire has to be held back from the players. What is the matter with all you baseball people why would you put up with that
I'm starting to believe MLB is nothing more than WWE. There is no way on God's green earth you can justify this kind of incompetence with 0 accountability. Unless, it's in the script!!! This is why I've stopped watching.
@@crimsonknight7011 Unless the umpire union has many photos of baseball owners with goats, the union really cannot stop this. A new contract when the old one expires can say most anything. It is like a rule change.
