I’ve been using Synthetic oil since 1980 on my Subaru I purchased new a 1990 Nissan Pick up truck had it for 13 years only used Mob8l 1 with Fram oil filters. I started just changing the filter every 5k miles and the oil with filter every 10k miles. I had it for 13 years and the engine ran very good. No excessive oil consumption and the truck mpg never changed. I feel that all three oils you tested are very good for almost any vehicle now made. Very good video.
@@robertj4454 Can you point me in the direction of where you saw those tests on oil filters? I can believe that Wix would be best, though I've also heard that purolator is among the best as well.
I've had Valvoline in my cars for more years than the other two. I've had Pennzoil and Mobile 1 also in my cars for a number of years. Any of the three, as you mentioned, are quality products however, the most important thing is to change the oil regularly. That means changing the oil way before the oil life feature in most cars reaches all the way down to 0%. Many RU-vid channels had jumped on this mindset with many failed engine tear downs of engines that were neglected. The Chevy Trax is a good example where the small displacement engine (1.4 liter in the Trax) with a turbo charger that makes boost to beat on the small 1.4 liter even harder needs to have clean oil. The manufactures of oil with their outrageous claims of extended oil change intervals out to 20,000 is complete nonsense. These small 1.4-liter turbo charged engines with only 5 oil changes in the first (and probably last) 100,000 is neglect to the level of insanity. The Trax only holds 4.2 quarts of oil and will not hold up to even 10,000-mile oil changes. A RU-vidr tore down a Toyota Camry engine with 180,000 that not only failed but grenaded because the owner adhered to Toyota's recommend 10,000 oil change intervals. At 120,000 miles the engine was already consuming a quart of oil every 1,000 miles which is the beginning of the end. Higher consumption at 140,000 to 150,000. Near the end of life for the engine. Costly - really costly. That Camry is Toast. There is data to back this up with high rates of turbo charger failing in the Trax. Why? because of oil having too much contamination and the oil inlet pipe from the engine suppling oil to the turbo is routed right behind the exhaust manifold and will clog up with burn oil deposits. That is a $2K to $3K mistake and will happen long before the Trax gets to 100,000 miles. Oil is cheaper than turbo chargers and/or engine failures. My rule of thumb is changing the oil at 50% oil life indicated in the dash. The engine and turbo have a much better chance to make it to 100,000 and beyond.
@@digitalcamaraderie5685 I updated my comment above to reflect the high oil consumption at 120,000 and engine failure at 180,000. At 120,000 to consume a quart of oil every 1,000 is the beginning of the end.
Changing the oil at 50% on my car means Changing it every 2500 miles. Thats silly. 5k is good enough for me with a high quality synthetic and good filter
@@kychristell1779 Some car's reportedly have a 10,000 oil interval on the internal computer, which is what the OP was specifically targeting I suspect. Cause yeah my RAV4 TRD and 2011 Honda Accord have 5,000 mile maintenance minders as well. But I've also heard that changing your oil at 4000 miles (particularly turbocharged vehicles) will help insure engine longevity. But either way as long as you change your oil at 5,000-6000 miles or less, it seems like you're good (no matter what engine it is). You almost never hear of engines blowing up with 5000 mile oil changes.
Thanks Joe. My self being a mechanic dating back to 1960. Here is my thoughts. I have done extensive research and study in the development of motor oils. You can only imagine the advancements in the technologies of motor oils and engine design. A lot has changed and continues to change. What was good in an 8BA Ford flat head cannot be compared to anything in todays engines. Today we have some of the absolute best engine oils the industry can supply. All the brands you invested in are all good in and of themselves. Here is my pick. Have used Mobile One for many years in many applications. I have only recently changed to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum. Oil changes are the best investment for longevity. Thanks again, the Old school guy.
Those are my 3 preferred oil brands so I’m glad you tested them. I’ve settled on using Mobil 1 in my naturally aspirated V-8 truck engine and I use the Pennzoil Platinum in both my 2 Litre turbo engines. For some reason the Valvoline is harder to find in my area otherwise I may have used that in the V-8 over the years. No matter what brand of oil, proper change intervals are key to a long engine life. Great video, thanks for the info.
i change my oil/filter every 3K-3,500K max in my 2021 VW MK7.5 GTI , so yes, the minimal differences in these tests so it’s kind of irrelevant.. if it’s good enough for Porsche from the factory.. that’s saying something
I've been using Valvoline in all my cars. Advanced for 2 and High mileage for the other 2. I used to use Mobil 1, then i went to Super tech for awhile. Once i started using Valvoline oils, what a difference. My vehicles just like Valvoline. I also tried Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, but I just didnt get the hype. I'm a Valvoline guy now, but in general, the others are good as well. Great video and informative. Thanks
would be very helpful to everyone if u mention which cars/engines u have had good fortune with using the Valvoline. Each car brand and engine tends to like particular oils more than others.
i always used Valvoline, once i started using Liqui Moly oil, and my car became really sluggish, first i didnt knew why. After going back to Valvoline the engine came alive !
It felt like i lost some kind of torque when using other oil than Valvoline. It felt like parts in the engine block are not working efficiently. Everything came back to normal after using Valvoline.. I had the same experience when switching to Mobil 1, Castrol, Bardahl, or Liqui Moly. There is another oil that give the same excellent feeling Motul Econergy. If i cant find Valvoline my second option would be Motul.
Excellent video! I have been using Mobil 1 since the Toyota Dealership told me that its the best but after watching this video and fewer others I will be using Valvoline Advanced Full Synthetic on the next Oil Change. Thank you so much for the test results.
Ive been using Mobil 1 full synthetic oil since the day it hit the store. After Using it for over two decades in 5 different vehicles, I had zero issues in any of the vehicles.
Ford Boss Me oil test encouraged me to switch from Mobile 1 to penzoil ultra platinum and now I just used for the first time the valvoline synthetic. I’m really pleased with the penzoil and I’m sure I’ll be happy with the valvoline. I use the fram ultra synthetic per Boss’ testing and it I’m really pleased with how this filter works. Thanks for posting.
Back in the early 1990s, the police department I worked for began using the Mobile 1 oil in our police cars. If I remember correctly we had a mix of Ford Crown Vics and Chevrolet Caprices. Our mechanic changed the oil every 10,000 miles. Now if people don’t know, police cars get a lot of idling time (just like taxis) and the engine runs probably 3X for every mile driven. Some cars ran 24 hours per day on all 3 shifts. From idling to emergency response and vehicle pursuits, they get a lot of wear. We never had an engine fail due to lubrication issues. So I began using the same rule of 10,000 miles per oil change, figuring if police engines could do it my personal car could do it. I’ve done that in the decades since and I have never had an engine failure related to the engine oil. Mobile1 isn’t cheap, but when you factor in the oil change ratio of 3:1, it’s not really more expensive.
I remember Mobil 1 doing an experiment with a Las Vegas taxi company. For whatever reason, it was against conventional oil. But they used their oil and conventional oil for 10k mile intervals and disassembled the engines after 100k miles. The conventional oil engine was severely varnished. The Mobil 1 engine looked brand new. I've used Mobil 1 ever since I saw this experiment.
I have an 07 Chevy Avalanche that I bought used. When I first got it I switched to Mobil 1 synthetic. I would get a tapping sound on startup and at times it would last 30 seconds or more. I recently switched to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum and almost never have the tapping sound and when I do it only lasts about 1-2 seconds at the very most. The engine also sounds quieter and smoother with the Pennzoil vs Mobil 1. Pennzoil Ultra Platinum synthetic will be the only thing I run in my truck from now on and when I use the last jug of Mobil 1 in my car, I will switch that over to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum as well.
I never understood the hype for mobil 1. My first car was a Ford escape v6 I ran Castrol.... I put 200,000 trouble free miles on it i tried Mobil and i found it produced more blowby.
@@leadnsteel1428 I think years ago Mobil 1 was a lot better but in recent years there’s been other companies that have come out with better quality oils. I know that a lot of people have had a lot of success with running regular oil for hundreds of thousands of miles but for some reason I feel better running synthetic, especially since I live in Texas and the summers can be pretty hot. Synthetic oil stands up to heat better. That’s a big reason I run synthetic. But that’s just me.
@@evanhovis9126 I agree. If Amsoil was the same price as the other synthetic oils I might give it a try but I’m not going to pay the price they want for an oil that’s not much better than the other good synthetic oils.
I have always said that Mobil 1 is over hyped! In my cars I always have used Valvoline and in my Motorcycles I use Castrol Power 1. I have been in the professional automotive field for 25+ years and i can tell you that in the many engines i have seen disassembled you can always tell the ones that have had Valvoline used in them because the internals are super clean and a clean engine is a happy engine.
I started using Mobil 1 in 1977 and used it exclusively until about 5 years ago in over 40 different vehicles. A gear-head friend of mine who follows things like oil testing regularly told me at that time that Pennzoil was surpassing Mobil 1 in test results. Especially a 'shear' test. I switched to Pennzoil Platinum then and have stuck with it. I also use Rotella T6 synthetic in my Cummins diesel pusher motorhome (11 gallon oil changes!) and in my Yamaha Grizzly quad.
Yes, Ultra is better but it's meant for high performance engines like high horsepower SRT's for example. I didn't think I needed to go that extreme for my stuff. @@evanhovis9126
I used to use Mobil 1 and switched to Pennzoil ultra platinum since Amsoil signature is almost the same yet much more expensive. But I do use Amsoil oil filter which goes down to 20microns. My 2006 Acura RL runs amazing
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say, as long as you are using an oil from a recognized manufacturer, and a quality filter, the biggest difference is going to be in the frequency of your changes. I bought an F-150 than had about 28.5K on it, but oil change indicator said 28% left before next change. Since I was so close to an even mileage, I put in a good oil, ran it until 30K, then changed out using my preferred Mobil 1 Truck & SUV 5W30 blend at religious 5K increments. Truck is still running great. Pulls my trailer like a champ, and no break downs to date.
Good job in your testing and comparisons! You proved that all three oils do a good job protecting your engines. The small wear rate differences are probably insignificant and will fluctuate from one oil change to the next. I am more interested in how each oil held up. What was its viscosity after 4000 miles? Was it still a 30 weight or did it thin to a 20 weight or thicken to a 40 weight? Was it trending to nearly a 20 weight, so you wouldn’t want to run 8000 miles? What was the oxidation level? Comparing the new oil and used oil analysis, did the additive package last, was the zinc and phosphorus etc, still at a good level? I read a report from another you tuber a while back that showed his Mobil 1 lost grade to a 20 weight after only 4,000 miles. A quality long life oil should maintain viscosity longer than that. Thanks😊
Yup. No conclusive differences here, all the results were totally within margin of error and a difference of a few PPM likely isn't even repeatable. I realize he was trying to show differences, but as he said, what he really showed is that all tested oils worked well in these applications with no significant differences
@@whatyaknowjoe67nice! For the past couple years I've been using the Penzzoil platinum. It's the best on budget in my area, and I'm happy with It's performance. I was always using Castrol, ever since way back in the conventional oil days, and even kept using it through the synthetic Era. Great video! I'm glad my current oil of choice is up to Parr!👍
Valvoline 1st, Penzoil 2nd M1 3rd. All good oils, but Valvoline and Penzoil have a slight edge. Penzoil ultra platinum is very, very good oil. Amsoil is 1st from all the testing I've seen.
Mobile one is overpriced and heavily marketed. Can’t beat Penzoil ULTRA platinum for the price and it’s one of the best you can buy for any price. Valvoline products are very very good as well.
Mobil 1 5 quart jugs at walmart were least expensive of the 3 for years. I was running 0w40 euro M1 for years buying 5 quart jugs for $23-$24 bucks in USA. Prices are higher now as we all know all 3 are good oils.
FWIW...Amazon sells 3-pak of 5-qt.Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W-30 for $72.00 right now. That's about $4.80 @qt. Buying single-pak of the same, they charge more than twice as much. Go figure.
I use Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in my vehicles and have been extremely satisfied with it. Nothing wrong with any of these oils but I just prefer the Pennzoil.
When I bought my 08 RAM 5.7 HEMI new, I asked the service manager - Mike - what oil he would recommend. His said to use only Valvoline, since it leaves NO deposits, gunk, or other dark crap in the engine and under the valve covers, and now after 157775 miles, my HEMI runs silent, NO vibrations, NO "HEMI tick", kinda like a big ass watch with its quietness.... I have always used the Valvoline 5W-20 full synthetic, except for the first 12K miles on "regular" oil. I am now using the high mileage product. With this last oil change, I added 8 ounces, (6.75 qts x 1.2 oz/qt = 8 ounces), of the ARCHOIL AR9100 friction modifier. NOW, everyone's vehicle ALWAYS runs/sounds "better" just after an oil change, BUT, I DO notice a more responsive engine with this additive and the next fill-up, ( I use E-0 - 90 octane exclusively), I will hopefully see an improved MPG. Thank you for your informative video...... F J B....
I’ve been changing my own motor all for 30+ years recently bought a Chevrolet that recommended dexos so i got castoil dextos oil and after 5000 miles it was the cleanest oil I’ve ever seen. Can you do a video on this?
Did it take Blackstone a month to get you your results? I'm about 21 days out and waiting since they received my sample and are claiming they're still backlogged from the holidays...which might be true but for some, waiting that long for a critical oil test isn't practical. I'll have to use a faster lab next time around.
Toyota Corolla owner - Canada. I use whichever 0W-16 is on sale. I suspect they are all equally good. Mobil 1 0W-16 Penzoil Platinum 0W-16 Valvoline 0W-16 Castrol Edge 0W-16 Toyota 0W-16 = Made by Exxon which makes Mobil 1 Change interval is more important than brand.... 5,000 miles or six months - whichever comes first. I bring my car to the dealer to change the oil every 4 months. It makes me feel better about myself knowing that I've purposefully changed at an earlier interval than is recommended. That way I know I've done everything possible to extend the life of the engine.
Thanks for the testing and video. Given that all these oils are virtually identical, with 'slight' edge to Pennzoil, I would opt for whichever oil is cheapest and affords you more frequent oil changes.
Been changing oil every 3,000 miles since 1985 using about every brand on the shelf, haven't had one single engine failure to date, in over a dozen different kinds of motors.Two of these had carburetors, no problems.
Valvoline is what I run 90% of the time. Problem is that it sells out quick at my local Wally World so I gotta use another brand some of the time. Castrol is usually my secondary choice.
i have 3800 series 3 supercharged, and 3.5 duractec both see severe driving so i change 2x per year every 6months, quaker state full synthetic both engines run smoothly
Personal favorite(hands down) is Pennzoil Ultra, my 2014 F150 ecoboost loves it. Second choice i'm curious about is the Valvoline high milage max life(next oil change)since my truck has 92k thus far. Pennzoil high milage seems good but the fuel economy is lacking. Third choice, i'd like to try is the Amazon basics. Cheaper than both Valvoline and Pennzoil with a really good AD package as well.
@@CWB1863I daily to work a 93 Ford ranger with the 2.3l 5sp, I bought it 13 years ago with 223,000 miles for $1400! I've used only the Valvoline high mileage synthetic blend and truck now currently has 508,000+ miles. Still rocking the original engine transmission and rear end! I've changed the oil between 3000-3500 miles religiously. No tics taps or raps...... Also have changed the transmission fluid in the manual transmission at least 4 times and rear differential at least twice.
The only off the shelf oil that I actually seen with real world results is Castrol Edge. All others did not give me a temperature drop and better mileage. Talked to an oil expert about this and he said some synthetics have been known to lower engine temps. Two different cars with using Castrol Syntec and the renamed Castrol Edge.
So many powertrain types, many models of cars, SUVs, Vans, and Trucks. Where do you start? Climate, terrain, environment, the driver's habits, how many vehicle startups, idling time. Got me as too many factors. Conventional Oil is becoming the past time as Full Synthetic is the new norm. Oil changes used to be 3K miles, now 5K to 10K miles, or every 6 months. It all depends on the individual owner. As for myself, it is every 6 months or 5K miles whichever comes first. Back in the 1980s I used Castrol, then later went to Valvoline quick change, have used Pennzoil many times, and now my new vehicle's MFR owner's manual wants Mobile One. Guess what? As long as you change the oil on a timely interval according to the label on the vehicle, the engine should last 150K up to 300K. Let's say the typical average miles driven each year is 15K, which means your vehicle should last you 10 years or longer provided you maintain and clean your vehicle. Crude oil is refined and how it affects your vehicle may depend on where the Crude Oil came from rather than the Company Refinery. Oh! what is Synthetic Oil composed/made of?
I vote for Penzoil Ultra Platinum 5W30. My 6 speed manual takes a beating 250k miles 5k oil change intervals doesn't burn or leak a drop of oil and sees the rev limiter more then it should everyday. 0-60 in about 5.2 seconds so it's a fun daily driver
@@whatyaknowjoe67 Dam I didn't include that haha. I was up for about 21 hours after working 12. I was really beat it's my 6th 12 hour day in a row. It's a Acura TL J series V6
@@PeterAngles-jq7gr Newer performance cars are definitely quicker but for it's age and a quarter million miles it still runs with it being FWD you just have to have the right tires for grip. I use Continental DWS06+ tires. I haven't lost many street races with it in the years I've owned it 🤣 the last one I lost was to a newer 370Z with flames shooting out the back and that was me vs a old Chevelle and the Nissan. I still surpassed the classic muscle car
I noticed that the Pennzoil brags about being made from natural gas (CH4). Mobil 1 used to be made from acetylene gas (C2H2), but i heard they went back to using crude oil. Does making the oil from a gas make a difference?
You can thank Castrol for that.. They won the lawsuit in 1999. Many synthetic oils now if produced before 1999 would be considered regular mineral oil.
Valvoline Extended Performance ! Great price and a great additive package. And unlike Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, which is a great oil, it’s quite a bit less and readily available.
Well done and thank you. But as you basically said one or two PPM is so small. Furthermore, the tests have a degree of tolerance so likely if they retested all you might see different results. Last, I would I have liked to see how the Silicon looked and the oil filtration data. In addition, to the water, fuel contamination and Cst 100C test for Viscosity.
Does the picture at 1:22 reflect the correct weights by comparison on each vehicle? For overall deposits and cleanliness I wonder about the natural gas based Pennz since NG is trash free by nature. Ive been running M1 for decades and changing @ 5 ,000. Ditto for my newest car.
Used valvoline products for about 45years. Tried different oils back in the 70s Quaker state etc. valvoline the only oil that would go without having to add any oil between changes. All others used 1 quart between changes. Same vehicle. 71 ford galaxy 500 with 351. Hard to change after that. Prefer it in all gas engines lawnmower to trucks.
I have over 304,000 miles on my tacoma and pull a trailer 90% of the time. Since new 2000I've used valvaline conventional 10w30 changed oil every 4000 miles. In the last couple years they quit carrying conventional oil now it's all synthetic so I've been using the valvaline synthetic blend high mileage oil , probably switch too fully synthetic next time I buy oil
Remember, there are NO set industry "standards" that define how much synthetic oil is to be contained in a "blend".... Oil manufactures won't tell you because the percentage of synthetic in a blend is embarrassingly LOW, maybe 10-15-20% of a "blend" is synthetic.... For ME, it's Valvoline 5W-20 FULL SYNTHETIC HIGH MILEAGE in my 08 RAM 5.7 HEMI, the ONLY oil used after the odometer hit 12K miles when new....
I've got a buick with a 3.8 v6. Wonderful engine . I run Mobil 1.5 -30. I have 120,000 miles on it . It doesn't use any.i plan on continued use. Of course I don't drie the crap out of it ,but occasionally I'll put it down. I think mobil1 is a decent synthetic brand.
great video i'm debating if keep putting oem oil in my rav 4 or gp with one of these . My old camry over 350k used cheapest oil conventional 3k no issue with engine . New rav been using oem wanna make a switch leaning towards valv or penz but i hear toyota uses mobil 1 with their added potion
This is awesome to see, thanks for the video. Just wondering can you make another video showing-off oil comparisons after one or more years of oil changes (below 5000 miles preferably)? Cause I've heard that changing your oil every six-months is also worthwhile to insure the oil does not degrade.
My mom told me she could feel the difference in how her car ran after I put Ultra Platinum in it. My car has almost 200,000 miles and runs just as well as when I got it and I’ve only been using Penzzoil.
In the real world Mobil 1 does a sensational job stopping wear. 487,000 miles on a Toyota pickup 4 cylinder and still like new compression on all cylinders, minimal oil consumption and no wear on the most wear prone parts of the valve train.
We had a major motor oil manufacturer sponsor our IndyCar team way back in the 80's. We were also running their oil in our engines... and losing those engines regularly. Upon teardown, it was determined that the oil was the cause. So we had to tell our multimillion-dollar sponsor that their oil was crap. Well, they took it quite well actually. Maybe they already knew. Anyway, we devised a solution. They would ship us cases of their branded, but empty oil bottles and we would fill those empty bottles up with off-the-shelf Mobil 1 synthetic. That way, the fans who were milling about in the paddocks would see us using what they thought was our sponsors' oil in our million-dollar engines but in fact, we were not. After we made the switch, we had no more oil-related failures. That was an expensive lesson that luckily, I didn't have to pay for. So to this day, I've only used Mobil 1 in all my vehicles
I just did my first oil change at 37k. The dealer did the prior service. I noticed less timing chain rattle with the Valvoline. Gas mileage may have decreased, not sure yet.
I’ve tried Pennzoil Platinum, Valvoline Advanced and Mobil 1 Extended Performance High Mileage in my car and so far I’ve liked how the Mobil 1 has performed the best. The Mobil 1 has been noticeably quieter than the others with Pennzoil at a close second. Valvoline made my car sound like a sewing machine for all three oil changes I tried it in. I will be sticking with Mobil 1 for sure.
Mobile one oil filters were best over all in a test I saw. Where they tested against k&n supertech. Overall in both flow and filtration and filtration capacity
I click on this at 6am, the opening music is tooooooooooooo loud, so I quickly fast forwarded the video. We have a 2007 Camrey and a 2013 RAV4 both 2.5 liter 4 cylinders, 64K miles on the Camery and 106K on the RAV. We also use 5W-20 on the Camrey & 0W-20 on the RAV, the Camrey for the years 2006-2009 used lower tension rings on it pistons so it has a small amount of oil that passes and it requires maybe a half a quart to keep the dip stick full over the course of a 3000 mile oil change, the RAV does not have any oil passage/consumption over the 3000 change cycle, both cars also have mag plugs for the oil pan drain plugs. What I notice was a slight dark film around both plugs on oil changes, not much but you can see it when you wipe it off with a white paper towel. We been using the Pennzoil Platinum brand on both cars and get it in the 5qt jugs from WalMart, what is your opinion on the mag plug film, just did oil changes on the both of them over the last two weeks.
Valvoline EP HM vs. Pennzoil platinum high mileage I like the pennzoil cause it's much quieter but I got the valvoline at a bargain. I might try some pennzoil ultra platinum but generally I like high mileage oils for the add pack and conditioning of my seals.
Each engine is different especially in tolerances because each engine is its own. If possible I feel you should have did this test on one engine changing only the brand of oil. Any thoughts?
Very challenging…doing on one engine would put the different oils in different outside temperature ranges…ie: first oil is tested in fall time (avg temp 55 deg?) then next oils would be ran during the winter months (avg temp 25 deg?) and so on. With multiple cars you hope to see some kind of trend. Hard to eliminate variables.
Keep in mind the oil spec required for your engine must me followed, not a specific brand. For example my Dodge 3.6 must use 5W20 that meets spec MS-6395. Not all 5W20's meet this spec. Read the fine print on the bottle.
I ran Mobil 1 in PT cruiser. Oil changes at 10,000 miles. Engine went 197,000 miles with no oil burning. Was still running great. the rest of the car was done.
Very interesting. It is not just about the oil but the oil filter. A few parts per million difference is not that significant. In my opinion, they are all good oils.
Remember we are talking parts per million on the report. Any of the three will do just fine. Thanks for watching…be sure to subscribe for more tests coming
The test protocols were not covered. The proper way to do these is to flush the engine between tests for several operational hours using the same oil brand/type for each flush. Not flushing will negatively impact the first oil "tested". Doing back to back tests without flushing will bias each test by the residual effects of the previous oil used. Any issues with the emissions control system will affect tests unpredictably.
Agree…I did make sure to leave each oil drain for at least 20 min. Whatever residual I would expect to be minimal. But yes I’m sure there are some cavities in the engine where there might be some oil remaining. I did rotate which oil I started with between vehicles. Based on the results there was minimal PPM difference. Maybe extended run time would have shown more separation between the brands…but final conclusion…change your oil at 5k miles and probably generally speaking any oil will suffice.
@@whatyaknowjoe67 Maybe cost? Here in Australia Shell (Pennzoil equivalent) is more expensive, Or perhaps Valvoline has a slightly larger range of types of 5W30 full synthetic like: - Synpower - Synpower FE - Synpower MST C3 ($81.99 AUD full retail) - Synpower XL-III C3 From memory they used to have even more.... Whereas in Australia with Shell: - Helix Ultra ECT C3 ($96 AUD full retail) - HX8 - Helix Ultra X (A3/B4 SN plus) I personally use Shell Helix Ultra, But I do try other brands from time to time 🤷♂ (except Amsoil since it's harder to obtain, and ludicrously expensive to the point that I could ALMOST do 2 oil changes for the same OIL COST as a single Amsoil oil change)
You talked about three oil brands tested in four vehicles, and showed three viscosities. Did you run the recommended viscosity of each brand in each vehicle? That means that you put 4000 miles on each brand for a total of 12000 miles on each vehicle. And one car contaminated all three brands for 12000 miles? That's a lot of driving. Is it a fleet situation? Are they driven in the same environments? Lot's of ?'s.
Recommended viscosity in each vehicle. Pennzoil vs Mobil 1 in car 1, Mobil 1 vs Valvoline in car 2, Mobil 1 vs Pennzoil in car 3, Mobil 1 vs Pennzoil in car 4. Looking to do more testing of the Valvoline in the future along with amsoil.
So your tests were not direct. You were comparing brand A viscosity 1 to brand B viscosity 1 in one vehicle, brand C viscosity 2 to brand D viscosity 2 in a second vehicle, etc. But you did not compare brand A viscosity 1 with brand C viscosity 1. You can't expect to actually compare Mobil 1 in a pickup truck to Valvoline in a car.@@whatyaknowjoe67
i think the best you can do is to get appropriate oil to the car you have and change it when it loses it's transparency/color. For ex it's 2-3k miles on my cars. Even Costco cheap oil will work perfectly. Dark oil -> it washed out some carbon deposits, change it, that's it. Fumoto valve on the oil pan and whole oil change operation will take no more than 10 minutes. Brands/additives matters when mileage is higher. I would not wait 10k miles until the next change if you want to keep your engine clean.
@@whatyaknowjoe67 me too, 10k i took from the oil can, like they guarantee that it'll work. It probably will, but the engine will be all in carbon inside. Just changed valve cover gaskets and must admit that 3k intervals works prrfectly, engine is clean.
2016 Honda Fit 10000 mile change intervals with schaeffers Supreme 9000 oil Blackstone labs said Wear metals are less than other customers with the same engine. At 7500 miles they told me. Also I could make it to 12000 but I change every 10000 on even increments like 60000 70000 80000 It's easy for me to keep track of it that way
@@whatyaknowjoe67 look up 540RAT oil testing, he did some extensive testing of oils and the Mobile 1 0w40 European blend came in second over a bunch of oils he tested. 👍
I've not had a single internal engine problem in twenty years of using Mobile 1 5w-30. and surpassed 350.000 miles on one of my vehicles , but I think any of the premium synthetic oils will give similar results if changed on a regular basis.
I use Casrtol GTX on my 2012 challenger V6 pentastar and the 2014 chysler 300 also with the pentastar. I've had good luck with the GTX 5w20 and 5w30 full synthetic. Once I tried mobile one in the challenger and the car didn't run right. I immediately switched back to Castrol. I also tried Pennzoil Pennzoil 5w20 in the 300 and it seemed the engin ran hotter. Now my 2019 Ram 1500 hemi also uses Casrtol Casrtol 5w20 full synthetic and to me that's a great oil. Also mobile one didnt list any MS number for Chrysler , Dodge or Ram as a recommended oil. Castrol is a good for high temperatures and stop and go traffic.
Irv Gordan’s Volvo went over 3,000,000 miles using Castrol GTX. I know guys that went well over 300,000 miles in there vehicles with only conventional oil. Best oil is clean oil. Change your oil when you can’t see the oil level lines through the oil. Over fifty five years of doing it this way and never ever had an engine problem. But what do I know. 😁
I really like Valvoline and Pennzoil Platinum, recently I got a good deal on some Kirkland full synthetic 5w 20 oil, Kinda having buyers remorse, it is a Costco brand oil, but I have never used it before. It's also not Advanced or Platinum. Is there any feedback for this Kirkland full synthetic oil out there?
That doesn't make sense. You are not going to get smoother running and more power from a different brand of oil of the same viscosity. You wouldn't even get that from a less quality oil than Mobil 1.
Blackstone labs is not known for accurate fuel dilution testing. They use an outdated method. All other labs use Gas Chromatography. Until you get to more than a double digit difference in wear metals, anything less is statistical insignificant and well within the accuracy of the test equipment. Pennzoil is a long drain oil, changing at 4k is not comming close to its life expectancy. FordBossMe makes the same mistakes. MACTFORDEDGE tested 3 dozen oils. He did new oil reference test and each oil was ran for 10k on the highway. Amsoil is a superior oil, but you wont see a difference if you change at 4k or even 6k. If you want compare oil, need to do new oil reference and sample oil at 10k, and compare viscosity, TBN, oxidation, additive change as well as wear.
The comment of all of these are good quality oils is the most accurate one you will see. Just change it regularly. My 07 Camry V6 has 250 k and has had 5-6 k oil change intervals on Mobil 1. Good friend has 350 k on same car he uses Federated Auto Dino oil…
