Mobula 6 HD // Worlds 1st 1S 65mm HD Quad // Full Review 

i would love to see a comparative review of this Runcam Split 3 Lite vs the new BETAFPV Nano HD Camera of 65X HD

Hi! What rates do you use? Your ability to fly around your house and through gaps in acro mode is crazy to me. Kinda makes me think i have everything of mine setup wrong lol. Can you do a stick overlay? or use gopro to video your hands and controller while flying around the inside of the house? Thanks!

@@JP-qq2kn My rates are pretty high Pitch and roll 1.2 super .75, yaw 1.3 and .80. I have done a stick cam here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uHsLaxX1juo.html

Thank you Jay. Appreciate it!

Thank you

thank you.

Its pretty long, I think a good many likely only want or need to skim through. :)

That's a very good way to sum it up. Where were you when I was editing :)

Thank you. I agree as in the video. The HD is good, but the fpv is far better than comparables.

yes, I think runcam is going to need to ramp up production. I hope they are ready :)

I do think this video is better at 60fps than the insta camera.

Thank you. Do you mean smaller than 65mm drones? I think the smallest I have on the channel is 49mm but that was almost 2 years go. Is there something your looking at?

Me and you both. My birthday in 6 days. Going to try and convince my wifey. Lol

Yes, that slight increase in prop size makes a big performance difference.

Its hard to compare 1s to 2s or more. I think for cinewhooping this is better as the image is better and fpv in the goggles is far superior to any other HD/FPV cam.

@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks Nick. I was lucky enough to catch one on Amazon. It will be here tomorrow!!! Looking forward to it!! Hey Nick, have you looked at the LDARC/KingKong ET125 4s? Just curious...

Thank you. Put a bit of tape over the sd card to keep it from popping out on impact, or less than smooth landings. Loosing footage can be very sad.

Yep. I already had that in mind after watching your videos. 👍

I can definitely feel the weight. Not suprising adding 6+ grams over the standard mobula 6

Sure, not every quad do we need or want. What did you think of the Runcam split 3 lite? I am curious how much that will cost when it becomes available. I don't think HappyModel chose me for the premier, global shipping has gone wonky. I have packages sent before this but still in Hong Kong. I am told the commercial flights either aren't happening all that much or the cargo space has been an issue.

Nick Burns I think the Mobula 6 camera is great! I was surprised how clear the picture is. I guess if it was before winter I would have ordered this one. I have to admit the recorded HD footage is as important as the FPV camera for me. This would be my kind of whoop. I used to fly cause I like flying but since the HD revolution, I like flying to make nice videos 🤷🏻‍♂️

I don't tend to reccomend quads that record hd as a first or really starter quads. The hd camera and its recording board isn't as durable as the non hd recording counter part. They also can have additional issues we don't see in the non HD recording version.

Thank you. I appreciate it.

So HD video over "racing/acro" performance?

@@NickBurnsFPV I already have a 65mm whoop with 802s and wanted a mob6 as a spare, but rethinking it and maybe wanting something small for HD footage. Although I wonder if sticking that runcam lite on my old Mob7 would be better.

I have not tried the new motors in a stock mobula6 yet.

I put a link to your and Nathan's channel in the vid description. I can't wait to see what you guys can do with it.

@@NickBurnsFPV oh yes... Can't wait... Thanks Nick !

Hey Nick, you mentioned the proper length of the FPV antenna..., Could you please remind me what it's supposed to be? Thank you Sir!

@@CCC0122 The vtx antenna should be 12.92mm the rx antenna 31.23mm

@@NickBurnsFPV Great and Thank you very much! I asked a couple of the other guys this and I'm wondering why pilots are using the Mobula 7 V2 frame, as opposed to the V3? I personally always liked the V3 the best. And I see a lot of guys who have done this frame swap, they didn't increase the mAh's?? I would think with the V2 or V3, you would put on a 450, 520 or 650mah....? I use the GNB 650's and 520's the most. Again, as always, I thank you for your great wisdom!!!

I hope your right, but I also think it might be a year if it gets there. The nano camera is a move in the right direction, but the air unit portion likely weighs as much as this entire quad or more. But we can dream, right?

I didn’t flash esc special sauce 😁

@@NickBurnsFPV ohhh that should be ur next video see how much flight time u can squeeze out of it maybe jesc first then with rpm filtering, see if you can get it past the 3 minute mark that would be awesome i think for making better videos

yea, they haven't been good, this one is much improved imho.

fpv stands for first person view so you are saying first person view view lol

The non HD video is from the dvr of the Orca FPV One goggles. The HD footage is recorded on the quad.

Couldn't agree more!

lol, yes it will.

Their price is also very budget friendly. I have yet to see another company that can match HappyModel on performance and price, at the same time.

I have been getting reports of quality control issue with the beta lite 2 radio. The emax kit using the joystick like controls are okay, but the radio lacks some stick resolution, making fine control difficult. At this time is really difficult to recommend an RTF kit.

yes, weight is lower and image both HD and FPV is better imho.

Great tip. I looked it up on amazon. Its called Forj Thermoplastic Tape? I see it selling for $18.76

@@NickBurnsFPV Yup, that's the stuff. It kind of reminds me of that plastic strapping they use for shipping stuff or wrapping bundles of newspapers together, but thinner. I can send you a roll if you'd like.

Going to try jesc now maybe that helps

Out of the box it has the pids tuned, when flashing we only get the betaflight defaults, which work for a good many 5inch quads, but not for micros. The big challenge in this hobby is learn to pid tune. Being your getting started, I would go to the happymodel.cn website and download the hex file for betaflight 3.5.7 for this board. Then we need the cli dump to past into the betaflight cli, which I can get you. Email me at nickburnsrc@gmail.com when your ready for that.

While they won't fit in the battery holder those batteries can be used.

I think 31mm props are best fit to 080x motors, the weight difference has a performance impact. I would go 1102 13500kv on 40mm props.

The design is very similar to the larva x canopy, but the materials feel different when touching and squeezing and the M6 HD canopy isn't shiny.

Did I shout out mom?

Nick Burns oh maybe that is not a saying in USA , over here in NZ if you mention somebody you know on TV , radio, video , news paper etc we call it a shout out.

we can flash new esc firmware 48khz to increase flight time.

I do think the performance would improve with quad blades and yes hurt flight time. I think for manufacturers they try to have "different" products from their competitors but also understand a large part of the market wants max flight time. I would expect many wouldn't buy if the flight time is less than 2mins which is likely would with 25000kv motors.

Nick Burns ...yeah tracking on all...I’m definitely in the flight time camp as I’m mostly a park / proximity / cruiser type!...So 3+ mins is my expectation for fun...even building some frankenwhoops a la the Shutterbug85 that can squeeze out 5+ on 450mah HV flats! Also you should build PMBs Meemo...I used the guts from a MOB6...motors he suggested..and Avan 4 bladed and it is an amazing flyer and super efficient on 1s. BTW I’m still tinkering with funny logos for you...I’ll send one along when I’m satisfied with them...but they are centered on the funny stuff you say sometimes...like “wang it hard”...they’d be funny on a t-shirt or hat!

@@rickdeckard7549 funny logos sound awesome. Yes, please let me know.

I haven't confirmed, but I have no reason to think its not compatible, I expect the esc is the same as mobula6.

Correction, you only need blue LED strings :). I would get this then transfer to a 75mm frame. I expect it to handle much better on 40mm props, and have longer flight times, just like the mobula 6 to mobula 7 1s did.

@Nick Burns Won't work with just blue, need all 5 colours, it's one of those ideas that if I can get it right, the reactions will be "Awesome! Why didn't I think of that? I wanna make some now!" so the first footage I put out has to be as perfect as possible :) (ordering LED strings tonight) That's a great idea on upsizing the frame+props for longer+better flight.

Hey Guillermo! 🖖😊

It is the same board with vtx and Rx on it

Nick Burns thanks!

I agree, they look very 'real/cinematic', like the HD footage. The trade-off is (much) less sharpness and dynamic range compared to the best FPV cams out there

At this time to my knowledge that behavior is limited to this board and I have been told not all of them do it. I have tested 2 of mine and both do it. I should have clarified, its not flying below 3v but landing/disarming and disconnecting power below 3volts.

The HD footage is onboard. The FPV view, the part with OSD on screen is goggle dvr recording.

@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks Nick, I'm totally blown away by the quality of both feeds Thanks for sharing, this is a "getter" in my book 🥰👌 will order next payday, using your link

@@Prop-A Thank you. I really like when we not only have a new quad but new components. Makes the video more useful.

The mobula 7 is 2s and thus more powerful and faster. The mobula 7 HD has been problematic for some. If you get it, I think its more safe to run it on 2s as well. Although it stated as 2-3s.

really for 1s I agree.

Might be a voice to text thing or typo, but this is camera is the Runcam split 3 lite.

Nope ! It was a Brain Fart ! Typing one thing and thinking of a different type. Thanks again

Possibly, I am fairly backlogged again. Its a good problem to have, no complaints.

Is has a recording on the quad. We insert an sd card into the quad, the hd camera records automatically when its powered on and the sd card is inserted.

Nick Burns ooh! Thanks I didn't notice it at first! It's well hidden and none of the review I saw showed it ! I will try it ! Thanks a lot! ... just have to wait to receive my flysky tx since I order a flash sell... and didn't notice it was a flysky 😭

I presume with HD recording on board like this Mobula 6 HD? Bigger is generally more stable outside. I would look the Geprc cineye.

Maybe the card is of poor quality or to large for the board to read it? Just guessing. I use 32gb sandisk extreme cards.

Yes, mine is fine. I don't fly it daily but a few packs 1 day a week or so.

@@NickBurnsFPV i hope this fc will stronger from previous one.

Better only in the sense the footage we get is better. The performance isn't nearly as good as the original mob6. The extra weight of hd has an impact.

I presume we are flying either angle or horizon mode, and likely checking while plugged into betaflight? I would start with calibrating on a nice flat surface, super level....checked with a level. Its not unusual to get some gyro drift over time, especially if we jolt the board.

I did not, but I have seen where the health and speed of the sd card can play a role in the feel of latency. Some I have even seen where the goggle image will slightly freeze. I would try a different and high speed card if I felt the latency.

sounds either like a loose wire connection or the board has a trace that is broken.

One day. To my knowledge only the dsmx version is available.

for line of sight flying? Otherwise there is a button that stops recording or unplugging the battery turns off the whole quad.

it will, we can't avoid it when we add weight. It might not be a huge difference, but that depends a lot on flight style.

I have tested several of my boards, all do it, but I have been told by commenters here, not all boards do it. I don't know the difference or they did fix later versions.

I preferred the 350mah, I felt I could more effectively fly the quad with a larger battery. I suspect depending on the flight style 300 could be the sweet spot for many.

Tuning the fpv camera picture can be a challenge. If nothing is permanently damaged we should be able to look in the goggles and rotate the lens to tune in a clear image.

Yes, they have all the versions and different flight desires covered, just have to pick our priority with the quad to go with it.

maybe one day.

The split lite is connected just like a normal camera, so yea, its pretty straight forward.

But doesn't that report wind at that "outside of town" or airport location?

at your location.

Yes, they will. We need to ensure we match the quad radio protocol frsky d8 with the radio version we purchase.

It’s likely the perfect mix. Open floor plan, wood construction, rapidfire and good spot to fly from. If I sit I. The basement I can barely fly the main floor

Sweet! I literally just ordered a rapidfire module just to fly inside my house, hope it looks at good at yours!! Thanks brother!

The runcam split3 lite is plugged into the camera slot on the AIO board. No additional regulator

@@NickBurnsFPV must be a different board then👍🏼👍🏼

So you do think the runcam split 3 lite is an improvement?

@@NickBurnsFPV it sure looks good. Definitely an improvement and that fpv feed is great.

You could try putting all the guts of this on a 75mm frame with 300mah batteries.

This is first 1s 65mm HD, if I recall correctly the betafpv product was 2s.

Nick Burns which HD in your opion is better? Quality, weight, mounting, use & of course the price? Stay safe & take care Nick.

Interesting to know between both of them

At the moment I am not sure. I will need to investigate.

Yes, it has, but you need full UART (rx+tx) for it. And OSD controls not working, at least for Split3-nano whoop.

I don't think it resets on a punchout below 3v, but if we land and the battery doesn't recover above 3v before we unplug the battery. It is specific to this board, and I have been told it doesn't happen on all of them, but I tested 2 of mine and both did it.

Nick Burns - I haven’t encountered that on my Mobula 6 but then I try to avoid going below 3.2 volts through normal use anyway. It’s such an odd “bug” or quirk to see these days.

@@frankbarajas It also makes me wonder if its a heat issue, with the vtx on the board.

Nick Burns - Yes, it does get hotter that just about any FC that I have ever had, but I can’t imagine why that would cause that issue, but your right it is an issue to some degree, excuse the unintended pun. Maybe, that added heat affects the onboard NVRAM memory? I have had other FCs reset due to low voltage, such as the Tiny Hawk did, but that was fixed by adding a small 20uf cap, but it didn’t lose it’s settings. Perhaps this FC combo lacks the filtration needed as some capacitors may have been removed for space limitations which creates the right environment for this bug to happen? Just spitballing here, but maybe the reasons some boards are affected by this bug is due to the variances in capacitors from unit to unit. In other words, all electrical components have a tolerance that they vary from and this is why high tolerance components cost much more as they are more accurate to their specifications. However, most components of each type, are built the same, but due to variations in the manufacturing process, some will come out better when tested, while some will fail or preform poorly when tested. The top performers will be your most expensive and/or certified components, but I digress. Getting back to this issue, that may be why some boards have this issue while others don’t, which is due to subtle variations in the component’s quality? I mean, it could be just some lower quality components that causes this to happen and I was using the capacitor as an example, but who knows what it could be? I should note that I add a 220uf cap (10volt) to all my whoops and that could be why mine isn’t seeing this issue, but again I don’t drop my batt voltage that far either. I just have the regular Mobula 6 as well so not comparing the same quads.

d8 only, range is very bad on d16 if you can get it to work.

Any noticable latency?

No noticeable latency. I suspect latency might just be a thing of the past. I can't remember the last time I noticed it.

Maybe swaping parts to other frame and have fun 😉

I was thinking that too. Put it on a toothpick type frame and then you could freestyle and shit like that.

I suspect your going to have to ask this of the individuals commenting. Or post on facebook to get much of a response.

Pretty much on all "HD" micros we have to give up performance to get the HD recording which the components have more weight than its non HD counter parts.

I don't believe we can change this without rewriting the camera firmware.

@@NickBurnsFPV alright thankyou sir