Great helpful video, I started using monogram a few weeks ago and it is great bit of kit, don’t forget you can also setup each button or knob to a different colour.
You can do CC with any Universal MIDI controller. If this was $200 like it should be, it would be worth it. Not at 4 payments of $124 for a controller.
Sure you can. I can learn CCs with my novation controller. But the faders suck, the knobs misfire all the time. The controls on this are much better than most keyboard controllers. The build quality is also much better than plastic midi controllers. “Limited” is the last thing I would call these. But to each their own.
@@MusicTechHelpGuy yup....I have some older Palette controllers from this manufacturer and found them to be glitchy....these new monogram modules work beautifully...and if you spend any amount of time 'in the seat' you will not regret the purchase. We need tools...and good ones make our job easier....these definitely deliver. Remember: you get what you pay for. BUT...you also pay for what you get!
@@MusicTechHelpGuy My JLCooper never has never failed once and I bought it used for around $175. This is Way to expensive for what it is. It's just a controller.
@@davidcottrell1308 My JLCooper never has never failed once and I bought it used for around $175. This is Way to expensive for what it is. It's just a controller.
@7:00 when you assign the 6 rotary knobs to the instrument, will these setting always be true or do you have to do this every time? And when you have multiple instruments set up, can you just switch between one or the other and the settings will stay intact?
I watched the video but maybe being a bit long I missed it .... but is it possible in addition to all these things to set the wheel so that you can use the zoom, and move around the project by pressing the sides of the big button? and set the keys with copy, paste, rec, etc. etc.
In Studio One, you can assign your controller to any parameter, and multiple ones, and it will remember your settings forever. Whatever plugin is in focus, that's the control you have. It's amazing! Logic unfortunately doesn't have that, you have to constantly set this up every time.
When a controller knob is assigned, is it only for the specific instance of that instrument. For instance if I assigned a knob for compression threshold, close that window, could I assign that same controller for an EQ band as well? And If I adjusted the eq bandi, would it mess with the threshold setting every time?
Excellent intro. Two questions: 1) Can you use Expressive E's Touche (which I love with strings eg) in combination with Mongram's controller, and if so, why would you possibly want to do that? ; 2) Can you assign the controllers app by app? I.e., can you assign controller functions for Alchemy, Analog Lab, Pigments or other plugins - while still maintaining your core controller assignments - like the ones that you have set up here for yourself in this video? Thanks! Again, great demo.
I use both. Touché has a very specific and organic feel for performance. My Monogram is mostly used for automation parameters, volume, panning, scrolling, tempo, dynamics, and zooming in/out horizontal/vertical. It can really speed up a workflow.
Great vid as always. Thanks. Can you use multiple profiles within the same Logic Song? For example, if I'm using a software synth on one track and assign midi cc 20- 31 to write automation using profile 1...then switch to another track , load profile 2 cc 102 to 119 to write automation? It seems one could have a huge amount of controllers by just switching profiles using core module buttons.
Yes, I’m fairly certain that is possible as long as the CC assignments are different for each profile. That’s a great point, it’s like switching between 2 or more midi controllers!
@@MusicTechHelpGuy yes, it really extends the functionality...like having a huge midi console. Thanks again for your vids. I'm a huge fan. I've learned a lot from you.
@@joelaplaca1546 I'm thinking of making a top 10 things you can do with the Monogram in Logic video, so I'll add that one to the list. You could hypothetically have a preset for each instrument that you use on a regular basis as well, up to 127 CC's not including the ones that are commonly preset (mod wheel, sustain pedal, etc.). Thanks for the idea!
I purchased a Monogram Audio Console in Oct '23 (they took my money) then cancelled the order in Apr '24 (order not fulfilled). I've not heard from them and had no replies to my emails. It's now 9 months - no console, no money, no word. I want my money back.
Great video, thanks! Is there a way to set up the orbiter to work more like a real shuttle wheel? I am working with rather big sessions and I found that the bigger the session, the bigger the step the orbiter will do when shuttling. So I end up with steps as big as 70 or 80 bars at once which is pretty useless.
Thanks for the detailed video and discount code! You mentioned the controller app has to be opened in order for it to work with LPX .. does it use much CPU?
Great video as always. You mentioned that the console was intended for working with Midi files. Am I correct in assuming that it also is useful for people who work with multi-track acoustic recordings too?
It is a MIDI controller. So it's great for controlling software instruments, and writing automation. I wouldn't say that it is a great option if you are looking for a mixing control surface; however, it can be used for writing automation when mixing, because you can pair each knob/fader to a fader or other object in Logic. But it's not a "plug and play" control surface if that's what you're asking?
Wow - fascinating! In your ES2 example, will the Monogram stop controlling the ES2 plugin when the plugin window is closed? If not it could get confusing if you have mapped two plugins on the same Logic channel.
Fantastic video! One question - I only have a 3 fader unit. I followed your process, but the mixer window is highlighting 8 faders rather than 3. Is there anyway to adjust this to only highlight the 3 faders I have assigned? Thanks so much!
I want to get this console. lead time is about 2 months! Updated after 1 month placed the order, I found out they are scamming people. People have been waiting for over a year for their product!!!!! And they don't give a refund unless the item is "fulfilled " which it will never be. They delete negative comments about their company and is just crazy that a console that is highly spoken from composers that this happens. Clearly the company is going down hill and I guess their trying to scam people or to gather funds to save their company.
Helpful video! I'm thinking about getting a set to use at my NI S88 midi keyboard, to augment the mouse for things in the MIDI Edit Window like expanding/contracting the view, deleting midi notes, cutting and pasting midi notes -- things I'd normally do with a Mac keyboard. I'm wondering if these modules (maybe a core, and orbiter, and a three-button) could fit in the space in front of the left bank of buttons. Do you know?
Great video and these look amazing, really well built and I think they would have a place in studios but I seem to think they are over priced for what they actually are when some midi controllers for just dynamics let's say, are far cheaper ...
Yep, you get what you pay for though. I’ve owned at least 5 different $200 or less midi controllers over the last 10 years or so and every single one ends up in the garbage bin because they are cheap plastic and start falling apart after a couple years. I had an 88 key CME that lasted close to 12 years, but cost over $1000 new. Used constantly for live gigs too and was really well built. This monogram unit is the only unit I’ve owned in a while that feels like the build quality is legit. The front plates are aluminum I believe and the build quality is really good. Time will tell how long they last though.
The Video is great , but I've orderd the console in November '23. Now it's the middle of May and I still haven't received any goods. I think it is relevant information that it is a great controller that unfortunately cannot be delivered!!
Hello! I'm having some problems with setting. Even If I've saved my configuration, not always is working. Second: I'm really having trouble with setting the sliders with CC 1, 11, 2. I do it on Monogram creator but then it doesn't work on Logic. I'm really spending a lot of time to try to make it works... suddenly yesterday it was working, but again, today, nothing. I need it really fast cause I'm working on a short film, and I'm really getting crazy! Could You please let me know if there is a video for setting a symphonic orchestra? I was trying to find it in yoututbe but I really didn't find it! Many. many thanks! For other hand, it is amazing, when it works, the big change with other consoles!
Hi. I bought a Monogram CC but couldn’t integrated with Cubase 11 Pro. This Monogram I need for Kontakt Instruments and Spitfire Libraries to control Expression, Modulation, Vibrato and so on… I set up all CC faders, knobs and buttons. For example: 1 st fader is CC3. 2 nd - CC 11 and 3 rd - CC1. When I open a Kontakt separately without Cubase, all instruments works well with Monogram faders and knobs. But when I enter Cubase, Monogram doesn’t work with Kontakt and Spitfire Instruments. I understand that I didn’t something well in Cubase Studio Setup. Can you take a picture, or write what options need I chose in Generic Remote? I couldn’t choose a correct options in Control name, Device, Channel/Category, Value/Action and Flags. Once again: I need a Monogram CC for Kontakt and Spitfire instruments (Expression, Modulation, Vibrato and so on…). For Track Quick Controls and VST Quick Controls I have a Arturia Keylab 88 and it works great. Thanks,
Hey Mamuka, happy to help with this! To send MIDI CCs to Kontakt inside Cubase, you don't need to worry about setting up a Generic Remote. Instead, go to Studio > Studio Setup > MIDI Port Setup. Make sure the MIDI input for Monogram is active and in all MIDI devices. Then, make sure your instrument tracks are receiving MIDI from all devices and that the channel(s) match your Monogram assignments. You only need to worry about Generic Remote if you're making assignments to the Quick Controls, mixer, or other Cubase features. Check our profile for instructional videos here. Any further snags please let us know at support@monogramcc.com; my colleague Brette will be in touch with help :) - Andy @ Monogram
I would recommend 0-127. Here's why. MIDI CC messages have 128 values that come from data byte values of the MIDI message. so if you go with 1-127, you're actually skipping one value.
Hey, great video! Do you know if there's a way to change the CC labels in Logic? For example, when I'm creating automation for my hardware synth Logic tells me I'm on the 'Timbre' channel. I have to look up which channel Timbre is on (71), to then check my synths manual to find out channel 71 changes Filter 1 Resonance. Creating custom labels would save a bunch of time, do you know if this feature exists?
So, turns out, you cannot rename the CC's in Logic from what I can tell. The continuous controllers are control change messages which are part of the MIDI language. Even the pre-made assignments are baked into the MIDI language. With software instruments, just about any CC can be used for a general purpose controller, but I tend to avoid the ones with preset names. For hardware synths these are typically hardwired assignments that cannot be changed, hence the pre-naming of the CCs. The good news is that you can use the "Modifier" MIDI FX plugin to re-assign any CC control. So if you want CC1 on your MIDI controller to write automation, but you want to convert that controller over to CC71 it can easily be done with the modifier plugin. But that doesn't really help you with having to search for the particular controls. Best of luck!
This video has so many chapters and therefore ads i was almost forced into getting youtube premium, which I'm now on a trial for haha. With 10 chapter markers, that means i got 20 ads in all watching this, many unskippable. Enjoy the revenue! Useful video otherwise, if I get the monogram thing I'll use your code.
However, I do find Logic remote fantastic for playback and recording controls, especially if you're recording in another room and you don't have someone to run the session. Also I love using it for step sequencer input.
@@MusicTechHelpGuy I take your point about the latency (although that’s not a massive issue when mixing), and obviously an iPad isn’t free but hundreds of thousands of music makers have one anyway and, even if you had to buy a basic model, it would be perfectly functional and cost less than most of the individual modules in this hardware. I can see why a music professional like you can justify the expense, but the average amateur in his bedroom……?? There are better things to spend his hard-earned cash on. (Great review, by the way - your RU-vid channel is the best Logic content out there.)
I use my iPhone with Logic remote for playback & recording and Monogram for expression and modulation. Absolutely agree that this might not work or those on a budget - I actually blagged mine as a joint gift from my whole family for a landmark birthday! - or that don't really go heavy on the expression. There are cheaper options for knob twiddling, but as stated by our dear friend MTHG they usually fall apart pretty quickly. I was sold on the faders...gotta love a fader.
Just tried another time on several computers, my phone and my wife's phone and they all work. However, I did discover a little glitch that happened on my phone. I typed in Mthg20 without caps and my phone autocorrected to MTHG20 and it didn't work. Then I went back and just manually typed in all caps MTHG20 and it worked. So probably just website glitch? I've emailed my contact at monogram to let them know a few people are having trouble with this.
Originally the discount code was only available to purchase a Console, however we've now updated to be available to be used for all products - so you shouldn't have any issues now! Enjoy - Kevin
@@jjvernonmusic Just tried another time on several computers, my phone and my wife's phone and they all work. However, I did discover a little glitch that happened on my phone. I typed in Mthg20 without caps and my phone autocorrected to MTHG20 and it didn't work. Then I went back and just manually typed in all caps MTHG20 and it worked. So probably just website glitch? I've emailed my contact at monogram to let them know a few people are having trouble with this.
Originally the discount code was only available to purchase a Console, however we've now updated to be available to be used for all products - so you shouldn't have any issues now! Enjoy - Kevin
i like the idea but...the prices are insane for what it is...i can buy an Icon Qcon Pro for a fifth of the money of this toys (same configuration)...150 dollars for 3 sliders?! c'mon!
@@jasperdany I don't rememvber exactely... I think 45 euros but then when postman came I had to pay 35 euros more because cuatom taxes. Fir the other hand the console I bought was 100 dollars less plus I got a 20% discount. It is not cheap, I know, but I'm having a lot of problems with contro surfaces with Logic!
I use Logic too, i am planning to get the creative console (399$). I think it will definitely have really high taxes. Do you think it's worth it to buy?. You mentioned you had some issues
yea, what everyone else said….. Cool tech, but big pricing incompatibility. they are so expensive that they encroach on pro level hardware that are built out of real materials. These look cool but just cost way too much.
Curious what you mean by 'real materials'? We use pro-grade aerospace aluminum along with strong neodymium magnets and soft-touch ABS plastic for the underside to keep things stable. We've built monogram to last for years and many of our customers from our first product that launched in 2016 are still using them today! Hope that helps - Kevin
Most MIDI controllers are not motorized. I don't think ANY MIDI controllers for this purpose are motorized. Many "control surfaces" are motorized, yes. Your Behringer Touch is a control surface meant for mixing.
