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MSI GE66 Raider Review & Benchmarks - RTX 3080TI, 12th gen Intel Alder Lake Core I9 12900HK 

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@jeffreyhe5392
@jeffreyhe5392 2 года назад
4:58 it's actually power input, not usb-a port
@qadhi79
@qadhi79 2 года назад
Great review and tear down. Surprised to see the much advertised LM pasted like this. Upgrading from Clevo as I think this is the end of DTR laptops. I have my eyes on the GE76 but unable to find it anywhere.
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
The very first shipment of GE76 hasn't arrive yet but is on it's way. Maybe 2 weeks.
@gaming_nerd_i_am9969
@gaming_nerd_i_am9969 2 года назад
I have this laptop, it’s pretty good. Depending on which game, it can push good frames in 4K. It also has a polished feel. MSI is awesome at manufacturing quality gaming laptops
@wootuka
@wootuka 2 года назад
Do you have the 4k version? If so are you able to stream UHD on Netflix/Prime, etc? I can only on RU-vid.
@gaming_nerd_i_am9969
@gaming_nerd_i_am9969 2 года назад
@@wootuka yes I have the 4K version, but I can’t get it to stream in the Ultra HD format on Netflix/Prime either
@wootuka
@wootuka 2 года назад
@@gaming_nerd_i_am9969 at least I see now it's not just me. Let me know if you find a solution, thanks.
@gaming_nerd_i_am9969
@gaming_nerd_i_am9969 2 года назад
@@wootuka will do, likewise. Other than that deficiency, what’s your opinion on the laptop?
@wootuka
@wootuka 2 года назад
@@gaming_nerd_i_am9969 I have mixed feelings about it. On one hand there is a lot of performance, but the lack of 4K while streaming makes it a regular laptop on that department. The other laptops that come close to it are the Zephyrus Duo 16 (who knows when it will be available) and the Blade 15 Advanced which lacks power but have better screen. If they fix the streaming issue I would be happy even at the price it sits at. How about you?
@hani8866
@hani8866 2 года назад
i got msi ge66 because everyone is talking about how good it is. But after a year of using it, its trash. My fan broke days before warranty ran out. (Ive never dropped it). I repaired my fan and months later my screen broke for no damn reason (no scratch, no broken screen). Display is gone. Got it checked my different technicians and all said that its the manufacturer’s fault. Beside these major issues, my ge66 would lag crazy without charging it. In order for me to actually play a game(any sort of game, even one that dont require high fps) will literally lag. So i had to plug in my laptop all the time. The only thing i can do while its not on charge is watch yt or browse on the internet. And the audacity to say the battery lasts for up to 7hrs is a lie. First 3 months that I got my laptop, battery lasted for about 1-2 when you’re not gaming. Definitely less than an hour if you’re gaming. Another cons, msi customer service is absolutely trash. They dont care about you, they only care about money
@hispantrapmusic301
@hispantrapmusic301 2 года назад
Damn!! I was going to buy one…
@hani8866
@hani8866 2 года назад
@@hispantrapmusic301 dont. my keyboard is also failing now
@hispantrapmusic301
@hispantrapmusic301 2 года назад
@@hani8866 is it that bad? Or were u unluck?
@hani8866
@hani8866 2 года назад
@@hispantrapmusic301 not sure but its not just me. when i was looking for a solution i found that many people on reddit had the same issue
@PiotrKoncewicz
@PiotrKoncewicz Год назад
After 6 months of using it, I got some BSOD's and after that, the performance dropped significantly. You have 11900 in the cinebench multithreaded, I got something like 1828 on the same test. MSI support in my country just reinstalled windows and called it a day :/ This machine was very powerful, but right now it works like a 6 years old mediocre laptop.
@rationalistfaith
@rationalistfaith 2 года назад
Good thing we have GenTechPC to fix these bad applications 🙏
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
:)
@Scuzan
@Scuzan 2 года назад
I just got the i7 variation out of thinking that the lower cpu with the 3080ti is a better mix for thernals than the i9.. I wonder if I made a mistake?
@alaukiktandlekar114
@alaukiktandlekar114 Год назад
I am planning to get i7 12700H with RTX 3070 Ti. Is it okay?
@alaukiktandlekar114
@alaukiktandlekar114 Год назад
I am now planning to buy Lenovo legion slim7i
@RichCompMan
@RichCompMan 2 года назад
Those Cinebench scores looks way too low. Was it really thermal throttling that much?
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
It could be because of the CPU temperature.
@RichCompMan
@RichCompMan 2 года назад
@@GenTechPC Did you notice that it was running unusually hot? I've seen 12900H's hiy 18K-19K on the 10 min R23 test.
@MrGatz
@MrGatz 2 года назад
@@RichCompMan hmm, not sure about 18-19K. more like 16-17K i've seen at max power. Jarrod Tech just did a great vid comparing the 12th gen and 11th gen and he including a Cinebench power graph worth looking into. He probably didn't have the max fans which is called CoolerBoost (Fn+F8) on the GE76. So it was probably just throttling all the time.
@premiumutube9674
@premiumutube9674 2 года назад
Laptops with the i7 12 Gen are quite expensive, like MSi Katana. Will the prices drop over time as more models come out?
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
It's because of DDR5 RAM and the price is double the DDR4. Some 12th Gen laptops still use DDR 4 and price are much lower.
@young_of_the_mill9560
@young_of_the_mill9560 2 года назад
wonder why the Cinebench r23 score is so low compared to other 12700h & 12900h laptops
@TheAlexGava
@TheAlexGava 2 года назад
I bought one of these and it overheats very easly, do you think it might be the cpu liquid metal? What do you recommend? Thanks!
@MikeHedges1993
@MikeHedges1993 2 года назад
overheats as in during browsing sessions or on youtube? if so 100% return it. If it gets hot while pushing the machine fully then thats really just how laptops are. You can try throttlestop if the laptop will let you. Or use whispermode/other nvidia settings in geforce experience.
@xescdelarosa3328
@xescdelarosa3328 2 года назад
Could you please try undervolting the cpu to see the difference in temperature?
@lilloaranda
@lilloaranda 2 года назад
Is ge66 i9-3070ti overkill? there is a promo today in Spain for 2.300€. What do you think? (MSI Raider GE66 12UGS-621XES Intel Core i9-12900HK/32GB/1TB SSD/RTX 3070Ti/15.6")
@papanumbnuts3386
@papanumbnuts3386 2 года назад
Great review. I'm in Canada and can't find this unit for sale here though. Only see the 16GB RAM variants with the i7 CPU, unless you get the 17 inch model. I've been trying to find a Rtx 3070ti or better 15" laptop with 32gb+ RAM. How long does the battery realistically last on max brightness but with non-gaming use (Photoshop and accounting software)?
@sambako
@sambako 2 года назад
Hey there, Costco Canada has this with the 3070TI
@blackmarket9798
@blackmarket9798 2 года назад
I7 is better for gaming i9 more for multi tasking
@7evive
@7evive Год назад
In Canada I got the i7 with 3070ti and 1080 360hz screen for 1799.
@techsupportline5019
@techsupportline5019 2 года назад
Enjoyed watching this review! Could you please review GE76 Raider 12 Gen model as well?
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
Thank you and yes will do review with GE76, now just waiting for shipment to arrive.
@techsupportline5019
@techsupportline5019 2 года назад
@@GenTechPC Thank you!
@Okami-SV
@Okami-SV 2 года назад
Hello! I'm thinking buying the Ge66 12Ugs-237 which have 3070ti, do you think It gonna have the same heating problems? Or which one do you recommend with the same price range and specs?
@lilloaranda
@lilloaranda 2 года назад
I'm buying the same one
@wootuka
@wootuka 2 года назад
Does anybody have this model? Are you able to stream Netflix/Prime in UHD with the internal monitor?
@burgersteak7723
@burgersteak7723 2 года назад
Can you ship in Philippines? How about the tax and shipping cost?
@yash41237605
@yash41237605 2 года назад
What is the brightness of the screen in NITS?
@ThomasStreiff
@ThomasStreiff 2 года назад
I will get one of these next week. As soon as it is delivered I will be adding a Cuda 4 TB drive. Any idea if the PCIe is 4.0 for both slots or is it 4.0 and 3.0 secondary. I have seen conflicting specs and reviews. Thanks for a great detailed channel!
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
Both slot is 4.0.
@hispantrapmusic301
@hispantrapmusic301 2 года назад
Man can you help me, I don’t know how’s the battery life
@Dailyislamicreminder_
@Dailyislamicreminder_ Год назад
I have this laptop and it’s amazing laptop very powerful ❤
@boscostick3725
@boscostick3725 2 года назад
wonder how many nits does the screen have
@sszzt
@sszzt 2 года назад
For the last few weeks I have been bombarded with ads for this model, but it doesn't seem to be available yet - fail! I am interested, but those thermals are concerning.
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
I bet our free LM repaste will drop to 89~92ish.
@COALROCK8642
@COALROCK8642 2 года назад
The thermals on this laptop?
@rengoku7136
@rengoku7136 2 года назад
Just bought this
@Dextermoon1
@Dextermoon1 Год назад
How has it been
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech 2 года назад
Those huge temp variations scream poorly applied liquid metal pad or coverage to me. Thanks for the video! Edit: Just watched to the tear down and holy cow it looks like the CPU heatsink wasn't even making proper contact with that CPU chip. Like the thermal pads they used around the heatsink to protect against LM spillage prevented proper contact. Wow! Also extremely interesting that they opted to keep the heatsink made of copper instead of at least nickel plating it to prevent LM dry out. Or do you think it looks bad because it returned to a solid as you said?
@GrumpyGeorge933
@GrumpyGeorge933 2 года назад
I noticed the CPU coverage too. It looked like only a small amount of the liquid metal was actually spread over the CPU
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
Yeah not what I was expected and maybe it was applied by machine from the factory.
@TheAyoubh
@TheAyoubh 2 года назад
maybe its made for when it melts it makes full contact
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
@@TheAyoubh need proper repaste.
@TheAyoubh
@TheAyoubh 2 года назад
@@GenTechPC will u make a video on before after?
@ferryjunigwanmurdiansyah4307
@ferryjunigwanmurdiansyah4307 2 года назад
Hey man great vid, quick question, can i turn off the light bar and rgb lighting on the keyboard if i want stealth look?
@wootuka
@wootuka 2 года назад
You can using the using the steelseries GG app.
@ferryjunigwanmurdiansyah4307
@ferryjunigwanmurdiansyah4307 2 года назад
@@wootuka hey...yeah thanks. Bought it already :)
@wootuka
@wootuka 2 года назад
@@ferryjunigwanmurdiansyah4307 did you get the 4k model?
@ferryjunigwanmurdiansyah4307
@ferryjunigwanmurdiansyah4307 2 года назад
@@wootuka i got the 2k 240Hz model...made an unboxing video of it
@alejandroolivares-nunez7896
@alejandroolivares-nunez7896 2 года назад
What's the battery like on this?
@promiseomiponle810
@promiseomiponle810 2 года назад
Does this fit ok in a backpack?
@shamelfuller
@shamelfuller 2 года назад
do you guys keep your tear down review models or sell them to the public? id like to buy this one off you guys lol
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
Get the new one, we have new inventory in stock. :)
@S3lix0
@S3lix0 2 года назад
wtf only 12k in cine r23? 😂use extreme performance profile or cooler boost.
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
16008 with turbo mode.
@Alpha_2-4
@Alpha_2-4 2 года назад
The r23 score is way too low.. for 12900hk.. something's not right
@TiberiusEmpire
@TiberiusEmpire 2 года назад
Can we see the Asus scar series or the MSI GE76 2022?
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
GE766 around early March and so is the Asus scar, will make review videos too, stay tuned.
@jeromr1
@jeromr1 2 года назад
Great Video, thanks a lot! How many monitors can this laptop support?
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
Direct connection is 4: 1x Thunderbolt 4, 1x Type C with display port 1.4, 1x Displayport 1.4, 1x HDMI 2.1. Thunderbolt 4 can support up to 2 monitors via adapter.
@jeromr1
@jeromr1 2 года назад
@@GenTechPC thank you very much!
@shawn2296
@shawn2296 2 года назад
you should test how long it takes for rendering videos with adobe premiere
@FM-ks1cs
@FM-ks1cs Год назад
Painful and crap.
@FM-ks1cs
@FM-ks1cs Год назад
On AF it is okay for 2 long renders, then it starts acting like a turd after a while...
@anthonyzheng7274
@anthonyzheng7274 2 года назад
I was a bit hyped about the phase changing liquid metal thermal interface compound on the CPU, but your video proves that it is just a gimmick. A really bad one at that. Normally a well pasted CPU with conductonaut will not show extreme uneven core temperatures like yours did out of the box. I'm guessing one or more cores are hitting 100C while the other ones are like 70-80C? The one core hitting 100C will make the entire chip throttle, as CPU sensors/temp will count the highest temp core as its overall temp.
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
Most likely it's CPU itself, it tops 115w. I did repaste with Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut and can drop to 97C.
@dignes3446
@dignes3446 2 года назад
@@GenTechPC So ultimately is the Conductonaut LM still much better than Msi's Phase changing LM? Man I had high hopes for this new paste...
@anthonyzheng7274
@anthonyzheng7274 2 года назад
@@GenTechPC 115w is what's listed as 12900hk's maximum turbo power according to the intel website. The issue is 100% thermals.
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
@@dignes3446 Yeah looks like Conductonaut are still better from what I see.
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
looks like core 3 and 5 will always run hot.
@cecofuli
@cecofuli 2 года назад
11.000 in Cinebench R23? Are you sure!? 5800H is able to do 13.000 and it cost 1/2 ah ah ah...
@TheAyoubh
@TheAyoubh 2 года назад
Is the second ssd slot pcie gen 3 or 4?
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
on 12th gen, both slots are Gen 4.
@陳祖言-h1u
@陳祖言-h1u 10 месяцев назад
Does it support type C laptop charging?
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 10 месяцев назад
No it does not.
@evrything941
@evrything941 2 года назад
Haw mutch the price
@aeonbreak4728
@aeonbreak4728 2 года назад
Do you know which thermal compound the i7 version of this one has?
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
Just generic type.
@aeonbreak4728
@aeonbreak4728 2 года назад
@@GenTechPC would you recommend the 15 or the 17inch raider?
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
@@aeonbreak4728 If you need number pad for work then go with GE76. If you like smaller not too heavy and travel a lot then go for GE66.
@aeonbreak4728
@aeonbreak4728 2 года назад
@@GenTechPC Thanks! What about temps and noise? I'd imagine 17 is more silent and less warm underload? I tried comparing the results from your videos but found hard to draw a good conclusion.
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
@@aeonbreak4728 GE66 uses less wattage on GPU but yeah, 17" does seem quieter.
@user-yh4nb3xt5g
@user-yh4nb3xt5g 2 года назад
Is it worth to buy this one(ge 66 3080 ti +i9 + 2k 240) with those troubles with temperature. Or better to buy ge 66 3080 ti with i7 +2k 240 ? Or it will be better to buy some other laptop? Will be very grateful for advice.
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
For gaming the i7 is more than enough, i9 could be overkill.
@schikey2076
@schikey2076 2 года назад
@@GenTechPC is i9 overkill for 3d animation work as well? im planning to go for i7 + RTX 3080Ti (QHD 240Hz) due to budget
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
@@schikey2076 No it's not. Animation takes hours and days to render, the faster the better.
@thecompetitor4418
@thecompetitor4418 2 года назад
@@GenTechPC what about legion 5 pro or gp66
@ThomasStreiff
@ThomasStreiff 2 года назад
I appreciate you listing the device manager and the refresh rates. I couldn’t find it anywhere in the specs and I didn’t want just a “60” refresh rate. I ordered this fully spec’ed laptop and will receive it next week. I subscribed to your channel for my tech fill. thanks!
@deivide5374
@deivide5374 2 года назад
Cant wait to strip it and put Garuda on it.
@davidraymond8994
@davidraymond8994 2 года назад
I want the 3070ti version how much of a performance hit do you think it would have?
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
Around 10% performance difference.
@cadacosamejorquelaotra
@cadacosamejorquelaotra 2 года назад
Hi! Did u got it? Im about to buy it, but kind of worries because the temps :(
@davidraymond8790
@davidraymond8790 2 года назад
@@cadacosamejorquelaotra yes I love it great computer bad trackpad for my hands but love my cheap travel mouse anyway.
@davidraymond8994
@davidraymond8994 2 года назад
@@cadacosamejorquelaotra yes I bought it love it and not having any issues with temps at all.
@cadacosamejorquelaotra
@cadacosamejorquelaotra 2 года назад
@@davidraymond8994 thx a lot mate!
@gametests
@gametests 2 года назад
you are getting quite low scores with i9 12900h, i amgetting 13900 with i7 11800h in my msi gp66.
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
It was out of the box settings. I re-tested it with Turbo Mode got 16008 on Multi Core and 1875 on single core.
@anthonyzheng7274
@anthonyzheng7274 2 года назад
@@GenTechPC A score of 16000 is still awfully low for 12th gen i9 12900h, you might be getting the uneven core temperatures, one core thermal reaching the thermal throttle temperature may be causing the entire chip to throttle. The "liquid metal" pad they have is pretty suspect, I recommend finding a way to remove it (looks like a pain in the d*ck - you may have to heat it up to liquify it then remove it while it's still liquid), then repaste with standard liquid metal such as Conductonaut.
@tanishqhooda
@tanishqhooda 2 года назад
Is there any main performance difference and temp in ge76 with i7 and i9?
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
GE76's 3080Ti is 150W+ 15W and will have better GPU performance. CPU will be the same but maybe slightly cooler because of the larger chassis. Will do full review once shipment arrives.
@tanishqhooda
@tanishqhooda 2 года назад
@@GenTechPC ohhk because like i don't feel like 3080ti varient is worth buying for me as it is also very expensive then 3070ti varient and i wanted to get a 17 inch so for that GE76 with i7 and 3070ti seems perfect choice i wish msi used new liquid method thing for i7 varient also and in india i9 varient with 3070ti isn't available in india so i guess have to settle for i7 & 3070ti in Ge 76 series
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
@@tanishqhooda 3070Ti is still pretty good and 3080Ti / i9 are overkill for some.
@blackgamingstudio5104
@blackgamingstudio5104 Год назад
What is the tdp of this laptop
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC Год назад
125w + 20w.
@EndEvent
@EndEvent 2 года назад
Did you buy it or did you get sponsered
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
We are MSI's reseller in US.
@Ric0ceronte
@Ric0ceronte 2 года назад
THANKS! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🍿🐧🍿🐧🍿🐧
@vmafarah9473
@vmafarah9473 Год назад
MY 11800H CINEBENCH R23 IS 14000.
@nolikeee
@nolikeee 2 года назад
Liquid metal but 100 degrees....
@miguelvirgo1160
@miguelvirgo1160 2 года назад
now imagine if there were using regular paste
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
I'll re-paste with Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut this week for comparison, will report back.
@MrGatz
@MrGatz 2 года назад
@@GenTechPC If you could do a vid on the re-paste it would be great as i suspect many people may want to do it with this chassis.
@GenTechPC
@GenTechPC 2 года назад
@@MrGatz Will do repaste and report the result.
@MrGatz
@MrGatz 2 года назад
@@GenTechPC how was the repaste? Better temps?
@mohamadhariz9613
@mohamadhariz9613 2 года назад
too expensive in my country
@alt666
@alt666 2 года назад
so this is a good one to undervolt lol
@dylanklem6442
@dylanklem6442 2 года назад
? promosm
@KiteOvermars
@KiteOvermars Год назад
Does this run lumion well?
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