Muscadine Tour - 30+ varieties in 30 minutes - UGA Tifton GA Pt 1 - EP 112  

I bought 6 bare root vines from Isons only 2 made it. One Late Fry that is growing very well and one Hall that is only growing 50% of what my Late fry is doing. I really would like to buy more but I cannot afford to buy from Isons. It ended up costing me $120. for two vines.

You should have contacted them, they honor their warranty if you abide by the requirements. (Personally I much prefer potted.)

Hall is one of our best growing vines and they taste so good! We attended the most recent version of this event over the weekend, new videos will be out in the coming weeks.

Thanks for watching!

Thanks for watching!

Thanks! We were excited at the opportunity to tour!

Glad you enjoyed it. Been watching your tour of Larry Stephenson’s place. Looked like a great time too!

@@DeanFamilyAcres Awesome! It’s a small world!

Yes, we had a good crowd. We videoed and will have several videos out in the near future.

@@DeanFamilyAcres Good deal, appreciate it.

It was a bronze. It wasn’t Carlos. Join us Sunday to find out. 😎

@@DeanFamilyAcres I’ll be on the look out 👀

Southern home has been around since 1979 and patented in 1994/96. They highlighted one of the Arkansas varieties at this meetup, can’t remember if there was a second. One was for wine making. I’ll try to follow up in a future video if I find out anymore details. Appreciate you watching and being interested in the future of this fruit.

I’m sorry, I thought you knew about it. ☹️

It’s actually a non-released variety. Fairly certain we mentioned that toward the end, but I’d have to check to be sure.

Oh ok thanks for your time, maybe I Can go back and listen again.

I didn't hear it either...listened again...nope...unless it's the Charles?

Lookout for way too many fruit on a vine, especially when young. If it does happen just knock some fruit off. You probably won’t have an issue so don’t stress about it, but good to be aware.

Many in the wild are male (non-fruiting). Go back when they should be producing to see if they’re female or Self Fertile. You can also look at the buds to tell what they are.

Ok

Totally depends on your preferences. If your only getting one it has to be self fertile. For a single vine I’d probably go with an Ison or Paulk (both are dark fruiting). Space is the enemy, building a proper trellis for one vine or 3+ hardly costs any different. Just need to give them the space to run down the wire.

Can’t really categorize them with so many varieties. They all taste different. The taste in general of green/bronze vs black/purple are different, but each variety has its unique strengths. Some consider the greens to be more acidic.

@Dean Family Acres can they be raised in new york state...binghamton area zone 4 to 4.5

@@marjoriejohnson6535 I think the limit is 6b or so. You’d be better off with a more traditional grape. I’m not too familiar with them as they don’t do as well here in the hot and humid south.

@@DeanFamilyAcres crap. So why don't we see them in the grocery stores around me??? I am going to ask Wegmans....

Around the 30 min mark? Here’s the video it references ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NUbuau7M46o.htmlsi=A0OkZ1PlcoImUnS3

This was the first one since before C19.

We have not. We’ve heard it is comparable to Carlos, which is the go to for white wine. Do you have Doreen?

I think I’m going to try it, I live in sub-tropic Sarasota,FL. From the research I’ve done Doreen may be better as I’d assume rot would be more common down here.

None of the native varieties around us grow very large. I’d love to see and taste those golf ball sized ones. Please post a video as I’m sure many of us would like to see them.

@DeanFamilyAcres I would love to do a video unfortunately I now live up north however I can ask my aunt if she wouldn't mind doing a video for me. I grew up having my uncle teach me all the ins and out of a vineyard an most of the varieties he has were from his mother an father's farm that they had before he was born, he passed away at the age of 73 back 2012, so the vine are very old ill see what I can do about getting some I usually get here to send me some fruit often

@@markrogers503 that would be awesome. Please be sure to comment back here or tag us!

Muscadines are, in general, considered more difficult to root than other plants. If you have a simple easy way to mass produce cuttings I'm sure many people would like to hear. He didn't say black muscadines were better. He said that black muscadines had lower instances of disease in their climate. Unless you have an unknown old variety that produces more, he's not wrong. Production has been objectively measured by not just this location but others. Being an "old variety" doesn't make it more "tolerant to climate." Flavor is subjective. Supreme has only been around since the 90's. Which definitely came from people "messing with nature." UGA has been breeding muscadines for almost 115 years. We wouldn't have a fraction of the food we eat today without human intervention. Just look up brassica origin. Aimlessly wandering around hoping to find a wild version with the characteristics you want is silly. Modern desired characteristics aren't the same as what they would have prioritized way way way back, so it's unlikely there's one sitting around somewhere. I'm not sure why people become obsessed with staying frozen in time with things like only using old varieties. We got those old varieties because they were looking for better varieties themselves.

@shawnsg well a couple of things we will start with intervention of food yes a few good things have come out bit look at the orange groves in Florida that has gotten screwed up, the old varieties didn't have even half of the bug problems an disease issues they do now . They can bearly grow them without a 80 percent fruit loss most years, then let's address the issue of Rooting is there a way yes air layering or the dip method. You should loom the the root stock an growing method an if they were in ot 115 years then they should know it. Interesting enough there are several winery in N.C that does it an figured it out on how ro get the amout of root stock an they do very well at it. It takes patience but can be done in mass quantities. Then let address the issue that yes I helped run a vineyard that was all muscadine an scuppernongs, where yes I was thought by a family members who's parents had varieties where they were kids. Passed to my grandparents an passes to my uncle an odd say between them a combination well over 200 year experience together, an even if you amend georgia soil, georgia os still clay In 90 percent of the state, an my point is if you can produce the numbers on yours then look at the soils in NC where the same plants are an look at where they are doing more. An just so you know I'm not talking out of my backside I was born in georgia an my family goes back there for generations. An yes the black grapes then to hold on but I've also seen an know they can produce massive number under the right conditions, an messing with food you keep hybridization of plants you loose the bases even take apples over 600 varieties have been lost in the past 75 years. That not only tastes better but could handle the elements better, people mess with an try to make things better more often than none have screwed it up. Look up how people have messed plants up by hybridization you'll find a ton of information. My point if keep they old varieties an dont loose them because once they are gone thats it. And you menti brassica pretty sad argument, with the varieties of family genus, look at how far corn has come, they lost 250 varieties plus over the years an it doesn't taste half as good as the corn did 40 years ago, the only thing that's been done less nutrients in the soil the food has gotten worse for people, compare people whos 40,50,60,70,80 look how they ate there health, an what they did people in there 70s, an 80s got more nutrients in there food an also worked harder an most do now. So yea most my comments were on the basis of experiences.