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@LukeStation Год назад

My headcanon for Classic Sonic being mute: he's just a shy little man! No, but seriously, I think SEGA saw the whole "Sonic doesn't need to speak to be cool!!" argument and just went "You know what, this is the right choice!"

@crashspyroforever701 Год назад

I want classic sonic to be edge and have a attitude to modern sonic

@Gnidel Год назад

My headcanon is that he didn't know the language. Tails taught him, but that took some time.

@CarbonRollerCaco Год назад

And had Tails and Eggman do all the "Classic" talking because "no one really cares about anyone but Sonic lol".

@TheNobleSocietyofPuddingOwners 11 месяцев назад

It was a missed opportunity for Jaleel White to voice Classic Sonic.

@lofi_njb 4 месяца назад

@@TheNobleSocietyofPuddingOwnersI think what was the plan, but Jaleel was not on board.

@SuperSonicMaster17 Год назад

It will always confused me why they had Classic Tails talk but not classic sonic. If they were going off of the fact that he couldn't speak in the classic games, with that logic, Classic Tails shouldn't be able to talk either.

@lordadz1615 Год назад

Apparently they wanted to get jaleel white but didn't cus of time constraints. So they made him voiceless

@lugbzurg8987 Год назад

They could've cast anyone! He even had a handful of lines in Sonic CD!

@lordadz1615 Год назад

@@lugbzurg8987 yh I'm not sure how valid it really was tbh. Either that or sega didn't rely care

@CarbonRollerCaco Год назад

No, see, in a cartoon or video game world, only GENIUS retro characters can talk because retro means babby. Goo goo. Also no playable retro characters can speak because voices and retro gameplay don't mix. Fuck Sega.

@CarbonRollerCaco Год назад

@@lordadz1615 I doubt that. Aside from it sounding like a bullshit fan theory/rumor, that's the sort of choice you make EARLY ON. Plus if it WERE true, then the JP voices got trimmed because of that. Of course, we ARE talking Sega here.

@gregtom3272 Год назад

speaking of classic sonic design in sonic generations , i believe it's because sonic team wanted to combine the american and japanese design of sonic in the 90s , resulting in a design that take little clues from both of them

@kaxcommentssomethingREAL Год назад

that's exactly what I've been thinking... It feels like Matt just wants that JP Sonic style in the artworks we've seen for years, Sega probably thought this would be the safest decision considering how many people would probably go on to complain about it in which box art design they preferred the most *(but that's just what i think!* i most definitely cannot tell what was Sega or Sonic Team's decision when making that design!)

@crashspyroforever701 Год назад

They should have just stuck with the Japan design

@vividcolorandrichaudio6134 Год назад

@@crashspyroforever701 nah. Greg Martin deserved the tribute.

@agrilsunil1 Год назад

@@vividcolorandrichaudio6134 are you joking Japanese sonic IS the perfect sonic design

@N0rlight Год назад

@@agrilsunil1 This is exactly why sega tried to make it a mix of American and Japan Classic Sonic, however the ingame model looks more close to japanese version.

@crudmuffin64 Год назад

To be fair, before Generations, Classic Sonic did actually have a voice, it's just that most of the time it wasn't heard due to hardware limitations. For a lot of Genesis and Game Gear titles, it is stated in their manuals that Sonic talked. On top of all that, once hardware limitations weren't an issue, Classic Sonic did get a voice in Sonic CD. Namely, the voice lines of "Yes!" and "I'm outta here!". Minimal maybe, but enough to work with for a recast of Classic Sonic tbh. I understand they wanted him to feel like he jumped right out of a Genesis, but it doesn't make any sense canonically.

@CarbonRollerCaco Год назад

Some Japanese Sonic arcade games had him speak whole-ass dialogue, and Eggman, Mighty and Ray also had arcade voices while Tails NEVER had any game voices prior to Adventure. Honestly, it's criminal that no one speaks in Sonic The Fighters. I guess they either weren't sure who to use in what language or wanted to lean into a Genesis-in-3D feel.

@MrNeedleM0use Год назад

Personally, my favorite classic design is the Toei Sonic we see in Mania/CD opening cutscene.That would have been amazing to see in Generations/ Forces

@agrilsunil1 Год назад

WHO’s favourite classic sonic design isn’t toei sonic it’s classic sonic if he was the definition of sonic perfection

@MrAppleSalad Год назад

IMO the Sonic in all the Mania shorts is not the same as Toei / Junio Sonic.

@tailzgimer1726 Год назад

Imo junio sonic only works when he isn't smiling and something about junio sonic doesn't scream attitude from an impatient rat But rather a calm collected individual

@Chillipeffer Год назад

@@MrAppleSalad who said that they were the same? cuz they were dead wrong

@iacobplayz9360 Год назад

What’s wrong with plastic sonic? Nothing wrong with him.

@RipsInfinity Год назад

Plastic sonic?

@x-mighty7602 Год назад

People who like Sonic Heroes be like:

@RipsInfinity Год назад

@Sonic central Super i know

@yadienbegode2778 Год назад

@Sonic central Super Bro it's a joke

@AndrewVR234 Год назад

@X-Mighty LOL

@torringoldstein4814 Год назад

My headcanon for why Classic is mute is because during his first four adventures (1,2,3K and CD), he was a stoic freedom fighter who was an “act first talk later” kind of guy. After a confidence boost from defeating Robotnik so many times in a row, and after becoming friends with Tails, Knuckles and Amy, he started to be more open and cocky. Despite of all of this, Classic being mute and cute doesn’t work, it’s really awkward to see him “””””laughing””””” the way he does in that one cutscene, and the design and lack of voice isn’t amazing. I still believe my headcanon is kinda cool though, but it doesn’t justify how he’s portrayed.

@hattoripool1533 Год назад

For the Classic Sonic design I think they should have gone for the Toei design

@crashspyroforever701 Год назад

Or at least update the sonic 1 design in 3d

@segasonic8003 Год назад

That wouldn't go with Modern Sonic well

@BJSolar02 Год назад

I think Sonic 3&K design is the right choice

@DiddleDallyBodanical Год назад

Hell nah

@pixelluka888 Год назад

You mean Junio?

@MasonProductions12 Год назад

My problem with classic sonic is that he can’t talk, if they couldn’t get Jaleel white, they should’ve gotten the ova actor or the sonic cd actor

@bluekel615 Год назад

The CD actor was Japanese so if they had him then Classic Sonic would have a Japanese accent. I think the best bet would be to get a new voice actor doing a combination of Jaleel Whites and Martin Burkes voices.

@hover8642 Год назад

@@bluekel615 Yeah, I feel like this voice suits him well ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GsW07ZRfkTY.html

@bluekel615 Год назад

@@hover8642 I have actually watched that before but forgot most of it, yeah that voice is pretty good!

@lunakingsley.7247 Год назад

Forces thing wasn't really a plot hole anyways. Sonic fans just can't understand such a basic part of time travel to the point my niece seems smarter. She's fucking 7.

@DGuy32 Год назад

Yeah, some people just can't understand a basic concept like split timelines.

@lunakingsley.7247 Год назад

@@DGuy32 it's a little frustrating. Especially when this isn't even the first time that's happened.

@john_negs7720 Год назад

Yea and timelines and dimensions are synonymous in sonic

@lunakingsley.7247 Год назад

@@john_negs7720 yeah but apparently a lot of fans forgot that.

@DGuy32 Год назад

@@john_negs7720 Precisely. "Dimension" is just another word for universe/timeline in Sonic.

@gregtom3272 Год назад

also modern sonic back when sonic adventure released was not supposed to be an older sonic , it was a change of art style

@littenfire3563 Год назад

Yup! I miss those days tbh. No classic or modern. Just Sonic

@lpfan4491 Год назад

It realistically has nothing to do with the artstyle. If they instead put in SA2 Sonic, it would still be a younger Sonic because of how much time passed both narratively-speaking and in-universe.(The entire series until Gens definitly did not take place in 1 year, the listed age not changing was clearly a marketing-thing)

@kinggalactix Год назад

In my opinion, The Sonic CD intro design or S3K design would fit perfectly for classic sonic in Generations. It shows his cutesy and edgy look, and the S3 model is a good model, which has a design of subtle transition into adventure design.

@bee2.0thelegendarysupersai69 Год назад

I have a theory I came up with on why Classic is mute and it's actually very simple. Who was he gonna talk to? As far as we know, Sonic has always just been a force of nature. Someone to defend the environment on a physical level. That automatically rules out any parents he may or may not have and by proxy, someone to teach him speak. And the animals of the island don't seem capable of normal speech so I couldn't even catch it second hand from them. So then why does he speak now? Easy, Tails. Now that he has a 300 IQ partner in crime, he finally has someone who's capable of speech that he consistently can talk to and who can teach him. I also think it explains why "he doesn't shut up" now (personally, I don't think he talks enough). He can finally express himself verbally after all this time of not being able to, why would he EVER "shut up"? Another theory could be that he's socially inept, not really having a social circle till Adventure but even then. Idk, these are just my own personal thoughts and they probably have a lot of holes in them but that's what I've always thought at least. And it's not too crazy to be outside the realm of possibilities anyway

@SketchyMane Год назад

My assumption for why he doesn't speak has always been because they figured that no matter how they portrayed the character vocally, fans would be in an uproar. So they just left him mute to play it safe.

@andreasmeelie1889 Год назад

You do have a good point.

@wander7812 Год назад

Tbh a lot of people have already complained of Classic Sonic but because he doesnt act or looks like the cool Sonic we used to know. You are the first I see breaking down why the design is bad on its own.

@Jay_XP Год назад

2:45 HOLD UP LET HIM COOK!!🔥

@VoidStorm016 Год назад

I always thought this classic sonic felt more round. When I would compare I saw he was just as round in the classics, but yeah, it's totally the proportions. I didn't consider his stomach was just plain bigger

@lynxfresh5214 Год назад

This reminds me of the design conflict of "classic" Sonic during the 90s with six quilled Sonic Vs punk quilled Sonic, it was pretty funny to witness tbh. Also seeing folks complain or be irritated about classic Sonic's official 3D render and proportions is just asking for "rough" irony.

@kaxcommentssomethingREAL Год назад

i'm one of those guys who have absolutely no issue with his design.. only thing i really wish for is if he could speak

@littenfire3563 Год назад

Yeah when you compare the model to the actual classic Sonic renders, you can see they made Classic Sonic way too cute in 3D.

@jaydenc367 Год назад

Eh nah it looks like a good mix of cute and cool

@blen983 Год назад

I always assumed classic being mute was a reference to silent cartoons like early Mickey Mouse. A small nod to some minor influences that help create him. made sense for an anniversary title to choose this direction. The really problem with classic sonic is his physics.

@CarbonRollerCaco Год назад

Three problems tho: 1. He had spoken lines, albeit limited, in CD. 2. They don't do the same for Tails and Eggman. 3. Generations gives off the impression it might be a mere noncanon "pure fun" game at first, but that gets shot down when Modern Eggman says he found the Time Eater specifically following Colors's events, so the power of retconning strikes again.

@delaneyelekes8660 Год назад

The design problems are something I recently noticed extent to Modern Sonic's design too- particularly, his quills. Look at some pictures/renders of Sonic in Frontiers or Forces, and then look at his artwork in Sonic Adventure 1. In SA1's art, his quills are not only MUCH longer, but they have a VERY strong curve- heck, they curve so much his quills reach his back. With how they curve, it gives Sonic's shape a "swirling" or "spinning" look, even when he's standing still, and with how long his quills are this is especially pronounced- not to mention it makes it easier to make them look long and thin, and therefore, pointy- like as if they're quills. Then you look at the boxart for Frontiers and... his quills don't even go down to his neck. They barely curve at all, and they're so short that they don't have much of a point either. According to the lead dev of Frontiers when asked about this on Twitter, he said this was intentional because they wanted him to look "cute" and "reminiscent of Classic Sonic", but hadn't realized just how much people like Sonic to looker cooler. Classic Sonic's appearance in Generations is representative of a misunderstanding between Sonic Team and what fans want out of Sonic's design period, beyond even just Classic Sonic's design.

@BJSolar02 Год назад

Still not letting go of Classic Sonic I see. Also they tried to make him look "cute"?? What??!

@t.k.o.7923 Год назад

Source on the Tweet?

@MasterSystemMarceau Год назад

Excellent take. There should never have been a "Classic Sonic" added to the lore in the first place.

@Chillipeffer Год назад

young sonic > classic sonic

@willbrgamer5137 Год назад

@@Chillipeffer "you are that sonic from another Dimension!" This line kind of screws everything.

@lpfan4491 Год назад

@@willbrgamer5137 It is a localization error.

@jaydenc367 Год назад

It was always part of the lore tho

@darrylunlistedbard9527 Год назад

@@willbrgamer5137 Well it doesn't matter anymore because tailstube fixed this.

@kirbytrent1 Год назад

Yeah I completely agree. I also feel like Classic Sonic's blue color should be a tad bit darker just like it is in Sonic 1, 2, and 3&K. Also I feel his controls could be better; more similar to how the are in the classic games

@lasercraft32 4 месяца назад

"You might know everything I'm going to do but that's not gonna help you because I know everything YOU'RE going to do! STRANGE, ISN'T IT?" - _Literally Sonic during the classic era._

@sonicblazer820 Год назад

You’re not alone on this I really don’t believe classic sonic is really that much of a cool character that sega tries to portray him in generations and I’m not much of a fan of silent characters in video games and TV shows and it bothers the hell out of me that classic eggman tails can talk but not classic sonic

@harrisoncora4259 Год назад

Really? I love Classic Sonic’s design.

@ShadsTH1 Год назад

I understand where you're coming from, but neither of these things bother me that much. I think they could've done better on both of these fronts, but I'm not willing to riot over it. My headcannon, which is very simple and probably stupid, is that Classic Sonic didn't feel the need to say anything, so he never did. I really enjoy Nibroc-Rock's renders, as I use them for thumbnail, profile pictures, and stuff like that. I do wish he wasn't chubby because I don't know why they thought that was fitting for a younger Sonic. If Sonic were to grow up like this, would he have this big 'ol belly? I rarely use official renders, so it's not a huge deal. As for the mute voice, whenever Classic Sonic was on screen, I just dubbed my own lines onto him. I've been seeing lots of Classic Sonic hate, and it's pretty no poggers, in my opinion.

@Nateziller Год назад

Honestly I thought this was a late April Fool's video for a second

@castform7 Год назад

I always found Classic's lack of a voice weird as well. You're telling me the Modern cast gets the voices changed twice before Generations and it's fine but apparently Sega couldn't get one guy and they were just like "welp, lost cause". They can't even fall back on Sonic "never speaking in the classic games" because he had a line in CD. Classic Tails said nothing in the games and he can speak to his hearts content in Generations. Everthing about Classic Sonic when he's in a modern game feels like constant small paper cuts that pile up which is why I hope the past and future (or 2 dimension, whatever retcon Sega's going with right now) stay separate.

@lpfan4491 Год назад

Every time Sonic had to speak in the classics was sadly retconned out in Origins, because lol.

@Tom-vg6td Год назад

Cuz jaleel white was too expensive

@xei2694 Год назад

Actually, there is a headcanon that explains Sonic's mutism. Sonic grew up all alone on South Island, with only non-anthropomorphic animals for company. Prior to meeting Tails, the only actual person he encountered was Dr. Eggman. Obviously, he didn't have much of a relationship with him. Sonic and Eggman didn't have to understand each other to try to kill each other. When he met Tails, he started teaching him English, (or whatever language they speak in the world of Sonic). By the time of Sonic CD, which takes place after Sonic 2 (don't listen to anyone that tells you otherwise) he can speak in short phrases, like "Yes!" and "I'm outta here!". Much like Mario only says short phrases because he can't speak English. By the time of Sonic Adventure, Sonic can speak fluently. On a related note, is Metal Sonic mute in his base form? It seems to be that way in Sonic Heroes, he falls silent when he transforms back. If that's the case, the people who made Sonic Generations didn't seem to know, since he say "Face me if you dare to have the Chaos Emerald."

@TheEPICMarioBros2 Год назад

Sega confirmed CD takes place between 1 and 2, but I love this therory

@PollyBonanzas Год назад

I think the not speaking thing really threw me off. It just feels weird and off putting. But I do have issues with the gameplay as well. I think a lot of the side scrolling sections of games don’t feel great to play. They either feel too slow, or have momentum killers. The jumping feels off, the bounce back from hits is frustrating. And if I remember correctly, you couldn’t grab rings immediately after getting hit which just felt bad. The jumps also feel too short. Oh yeah, and the abilities that you need to equip to make the gameplay better is an obvious tell that the gameplay needed fixing, and even those don’t fully fix the gameplay. They just make certain things a little less annoying. Overall it’s fine I guess, but it’s a lot of little things that add up to not actually feel like real classic sonic games.

@ItsSkullyy Год назад

Finally man! I always had a problem with classic sonic not talking, it was stupid. Btw showin’s classic sonic revamp mod adds a new model to gens that looks really good imo! Otherwise great video Matt!

@macuser7048 Год назад

They forced his jumps into an arc like Simon Belmont.

@dancingvalkyrie Год назад

People think Toei Sonic looks "edgy"? He's also cute lmao Adventure era apologists always trying so hard to make Sonic edgy.

@lugbzurg8987 Год назад

Another part of the continuity... Why does Classic Sonic have a different color scheme? Different shade of blue, different eyelids, DIFFERENT EYES!?

@vividcolorandrichaudio6134 Год назад

I have no problems with how Classic Sonic looks. It's a great design.

@theeverythingchannel_yt Год назад

Hey Matt! I recently watched your Top 10 Best Sonic levels video for the first time, and I was surprised to see Rooftop Run at #1! However, I know that video is now 2 years old, so I wanted to ask, have your opinions changed on the #1 Sonic level? If so, what is your new favorite?

@goncalomoledo5373 Год назад

Now that you talked about it if classic sonic does not have a voice it could be becuse they are following the classic game rules, but then how does classic tails have a voice but sonic does not it does not make sense, in a possible remake they should add the bosses and levels from the Ds version to extend play time

@jeriahrosen101 Год назад

My favorite design of classic sonic is probably the OVA design. I always felt like that design was both cool and cute, but not overdoing it like the design in this game. It feels like a mixture between toei sonic and the Japanese sonic design.

@Superjetski456 Год назад

If there's one thing that bothered me about classic sonic, is that his head and neck look way too detached, it's like his head is balancing on his around stomach and his quills look far too Blunt.😅

@sitarkid8892 Год назад

Nice vid! Something else that bothers me that I've never seen anyone point out is that classic Tails and Robotnik talk but not Sonic, like huh?

@Neetso Год назад

People have been commenting on this for quite some time really, it's just that they don't refer to him as "classic Sonic"... but as "Santiago".

@criticalbuddy524 10 месяцев назад

4:45 Oh my gosh man that's so true, that evolution between Classic and modern is more accurate, edgier and cooler than the official's one imo. I love it 😍

@STAXONDECK1 11 месяцев назад

It’s funny because my little niece hated Sonic but loves classic Sonic and calls him Baby Sonic

@Yoshistar238 Год назад

4:00 honestly I liked the first fan render you showed better then the second one.

@noahfoley5576 Год назад

I had the exact same thoughts about classic sonics design! I’m so happy somebody brought it up I was so confused

@matthewradaza9761 Год назад

To be honest i agree his the weakest part to me in gens because the boosting level where kined of the cherry on top not as better as unleashed but you get the point but there were still fun stages in classic sonic i had a great time with sky sanctuary and classic city escape with classic sonic and i will rather play classic sonic in gens more than classic sonic in forces

@MellowMochi0 Год назад

Amazing Video!

@Brianycus Год назад

2:50 How have I not seen that in all my 22 years on this freaking earth...

@robertwillie9184 4 месяца назад

Pac-man is in a sonic costume with a fast potion. Wow.

@eddy7346 Год назад

My gripe with Classic Sonic's model is that his eyes look too wide. Now hear me out, in Sonic 1 and 2, the guy looked pissed, like he had an attitude and was ready to get down to business. Generations/Forces' Classic Sonic looked like he's about to ask you to help him find his mom

@reneethefox4797 Год назад

Including Adventures/SatAm/Underground, the OVA, Sonic CD, and Sonic Schoolhouse... classic Sonic actually had more voice actors than Modern (at the time at least, so not counting Prime). They really had no excuse to not give him a voice.

@chantingmammal Год назад

I have no problems with how Classic Sonic looks overall in Generations, and I've always found Classic Sonic's lack of a voice very weird, and my problem with Classic Sonic is that he can't talk, Classic Eggman and Tails can talk but Classic Sonic cannot, and my assumption for why Classic doesn't speak has been because they figured that no matter how they portrayed the Classic Design of the Blue Blur vocally, Sonic fans would be in an uproar, so that's why Sega left Classic Sonic mute to play it safe, but anyways, It's glad to hear someone on the internet talk about the design of Classic Sonic, and I totally agree that Classic Sonic needs his design modifed (even though I still like his design) and Classic Sonic needs to have a voice actor (Jaleel White, etc), and as always, Great Video Matt! Stay Safe!

@thatoneguy7052 Год назад

A head cannon that makes since is that he thinks modern sonic is weird and doesn’t want to talk to him

@Arman17_is_me Год назад

Why me I thought everyone loved me

@Yoshigamingchannel Год назад

I never actually thought about it but yeah he doesn’t have the energy of classic sonic.

@SE_2607 Год назад

"Pac-Man is cute and friendly" Street fighter X Tekken moment

@tygical Год назад

"some nice throwbacks" that's the whole game dude

@matthewradaza9761 Год назад

Love your vids mat❤

@KnightoftheWind7 Месяц назад

Just like you, haven’t heard any one else talk about this, and yeah, it is a topic of concern! Thank you! I do have a head canon for why Classic Sonic is mute. His voice box is broken. He can still hear, but he can’t talk. Tails eventually fixes his voice box after they get older/closer/Tails gets smarter. If anyone has thoughts on this head canon, please let me know, I love having these head canon conversations! ☺️

@MyNameIsX Год назад

Night jungle joyride > day arid sands

@blondboi252 Год назад

He looks like that squishy weird sonic toy.

@jayceallen6530 Год назад

I love the gameplay and I don’t think it needed much of a story, but i feel like I would’ve liked it more if its story was just a little more out there, especially with sonic saving his friends and them not doing much at the end of the day. And i never found myself wanting to go replay classic levels

@jskywalker58 Год назад

I think i cool thing they could have done is after you rescue one of sonic friends they called back to a previous adventure for example after you rescue rouge she and sonic call back to the events of adventure 2

@AwijoshSun Год назад

I didn't think he was mute, I thought he just chose not to speak

@omgwillustrate8475 Год назад

The reason Classic Sonic doesn't speak is all because of Genesis Era Sonic Game purists from 10-15 years ago who cited Sonic speaking as one of the worst qualities about him at the time, and Sonic Team listened to them when they were responding to the backlash aimed at Sonic 4. I'm mostly referring to some of the snobs who used to hang around the Sonic Retro forums that occasionally dropped in at Sega's old forums. The current iteration of Classic Sonic's 3d render has a lot in common with Sonic 1's promotional design, particularly the claymotion Sonic from the Japanese commercials. Clearly, Junio Sonic (the one everyone erroneously dubs Toei Sonic) is one of the universally praised designs for Sonic all around for many years, in addition to Yuji Uekawa's Sonic and Hideaki Moriya's respective box art styles for the Sonic Adventure/Advance games and the Sonic Riders games.

@emmanuelmondesir Год назад

Sonic superstars: fixed that for you

@blackwhole3389 Год назад

I legit love this guy... He likes sonic cd He likes sonic ova He likes the og giga Chad classic sonic He likes cool ost. I'm saying it again... I love this guy

@blondboi252 Год назад

2:38 I thought you were gonna say mickey mouse of all things lol

@Hypersonix67899 9 месяцев назад

BEWARE THE SANTIAGO

@legoawcstopmotioner9435 Год назад

I want that redesign as a mod now.

@talonitex6441 Год назад

6:42 bruh how does this headcannon solo the whole of sonic forces storyline

@ColorsWasChit Год назад

to answer the question in the thumbnail it was me. i'll do it again and you can't stop me

@joel9104 Год назад

Interesting take! I agree with some pointed and disagree with others but I understand where your coming from

@CheddarVG Год назад

There's a mod for the game that replaces Classic Sonic's model with a 3D version of Sonic 2's sprite.

@BlueEyedVibeChecker Год назад

In Sonic CD, Sonic has a voice when he says "Yes!" (Extra life) and "I'm outta here!" (Time Over). They shoulda used that guy.

@sleepy9102 Год назад

4:15 woah so you have something in common with Elise.

@bigmuthafooka Год назад

also i just noticed, classic Sonic and classic Tails are the same height which shouldn’t and if Tails was bullied for having two tails and can talk Sonic should have had a voice in Generations

@firetypespecialist1452 Год назад

Common Matt L, Classic Sonic looks great in Gens

@34r343 Год назад

no he looks awful same with metal.

@hamzamohamed6774 26 дней назад

4:14 bruh that message was harsh

@DOYOUGOTGAMEONYOURPHONE Год назад

just asking what ever happened to classic sonic having a high pitched voice like in sonic schoolhouse and the old commercials?

@JudeaKaty-ke6gp Год назад

Sonic unleash ultimate could save sonic team if they made it. We would have more games like sonic unleash

@ayzhol9620 Год назад

Totally fucking agree. I have been screaming this for years. This version of classic is an awful version of him and I am confused why I dont hear more people shouting this out.

@lpfan4491 Год назад

People were talking about it(not the part where he does not speak, but everything else) and it simply got more quiet because we are just not getting the real young Sonic back. They pushed for this lack of consistency hard, to the point where they got retconny in Sonic Origins.

@fireblade696 Год назад

Literally the entire Sonic community agrees with you on this lol. Everyone talks about it.

@gogetasupersaiyajin4840 Год назад

How about doing a video for an idea for a sonic racing spinoff game and who you wanna see a playable character like for example for me i wanna chaos and mecha sonic from sonic and knucles to be playable how about you and do you wanna a guest character from sonic comics for me i dream to see dr Zachary and emperor mettalix on the big screen maybe on a sonic and sega racing game see both of them with characters like axel from streets of rage and opa opa and ristar and night I think you need to do a video about your ideas for a sonic racing game do you wanna see a 4th riders game or another sonic racing game or another rivals game or a diffrent type of racing and what's your roaster of characters and stages

@drkspnova Год назад

FINALLY someone who agrees that Classic needed the OVA voice. That would've been amazing

@FroThunder Год назад

My problem with Gens is there was no DLC (extra levels from different games) Sega would’ve had all my money but I guess they didn’t want it

@hollygirlie 4 месяца назад

tbh i was always confused as to why they didn't bring classic knuckles into the game i now realize that it probably wouldn't make much sense and would most likely just be a waste of a character

@Autotrope Год назад

This video killed my parents and left me unable to speak

@Sonic171K Год назад

Good points. The design didn't bother me. It was Classic Sonic not speaking that did.

@Plex274 Год назад

Tbh after this I agree. I always felt like this classic sonic design wasn't the as in the 90s

@westboi108 Год назад

Would you be okay if classic sonic was voiced by black jack?

@andreasmeelie1889 Год назад

This video helped me see a whole other different perspective of Classic Sonic. Though I admit I always wondered why he didn’t talk yet Classic Tails did which highly annoyed me. Honestly, I wish that Classic Sonic stayed in Generations. I enjoyed him in Forces and was very excited but it also highly annoys me that he was there too. I’m just glad he’s no longer stealing Modern Sonic’s spotlight anymore. That always hugely annoyed and angered me in the past especially since I’m a bigger Modern Sonic fan and while I do love the classics I find them super overrated compared to the Modern games.

@Starpotion Год назад

I don't particularly have any strong dislike for the design but I hope they're able to retcon it someday and give it another go. Hopefully that's a while from now considering how fatigued everyone is from Classic appearing in the modern games, but if he ever does he definitely deserves a more faithful design.

@Bawdashone Год назад

my other fav voice for classic sonic...lets go over to the Sonic Shorts department. I think it was GAMEBUDDY'S voice I really dug lol

@savageboi951xd8 Год назад

Fun video, but I will say, everybody talks about this. You’re not alone!

@bowserbreaker2515 Год назад

I wish he looked like he did in SATAM and was voiced by Jaleel White. And people wanted Jaleel White back because he played Sonic 3 times and had a lot of experience. It would've been cool if they got Ryan Drummond though, or brought back Jim Cummings for classic Eggman.

@thomaskingdom9093 Год назад

c H i L i D o G s

@Dumbone. Год назад

They missed out on classic levels being fully 2d animated sprites

@Iheartdrumzz Год назад

exactly my thoughts. shouldve been straight up 2d sprites like in sonic mania. gameplay, levels and all. the classic sonic they created only exists in generations and forces, and those play nothing like actual classic sonic

@Dumbone. Год назад

@@Iheartdrumzz No like OVA or Sonic X where its normal 2d

@ShadowXeldron Год назад

As for Classic Sonic not talking, I'd guess it's probably because someone at Sonic Team probably went "oh but they didn't say anything in the classic games so if we make Classic talk then the classic purists will be furious because we ruined their nostalgia" (even though Sonic says a whopping two things in Sonic CD, but nobody had a Mega CD). As for Classic Sonic's design, I've got nothing to say about it.

@Velocity_YT Год назад

Yet they made Classic Eggman and Classic Tails talk...

@Rabbit_invader1 Год назад

Yeah I have to agree... the Classic Sonic model never really looked all that appealing to me. It doesn't look bad don't get me wrong, but the second render made by Nebrock does look like a more natural growth of the Modern Sonic model. The Generations Classic Sonic model does not look nearly as expressive than what Nebrocks' model offers. I also never liked the lighter shade of blue that Sega wanted for him. It's just... really off and weird to me.

@75JUNAKI Год назад

Personally, I wish Classic versions weren’t younger versions of the Modern versions (Yee). The transition in design doesn’t make sense to me, also no I don’t think the Sonic The Comic’s explanation fits because Amy got green eye’s, Knuckles purple eyes and I think it would make more sense if he got green eye’s, Tails just got blue eyes and it’s not an art style thing, in the same game (Generations) Classic Tails is there and he still has black eyes.

@gameman5804 Год назад

I think Classic Sonic not speaking was probably something they couldn’t pull off despite getting Robotnik and Classic Tails. Jaleel White was omitted due either a lack of interest or to being arrested for Domestic Abuse. The OVA actor, I don’t think many have heard as much in comparison to White. I could be wrong, but It’s weird regardless.

@lpfan4491 Год назад

They literally made Mike speak classic Eggman, they could have found someone for Classic Sonic.