My FAVORITE Space Marine Chapters! Why Darker Armies Just WORK. A Rant. 

I know :( i wanted to get charcarodons as My first army but nooooooo. I have Been into More For about 7 years and when i finally decide what i want it gets yanked away 🤣 oh well.

@@Hiihtopipa I wouldn't let their production shortcomings stop you. Those models are out of production but not entirely out of production if you know what I mean. I've seen videos about some great conversion ideas for the chapter.

Well Sigismund has plot armor so I agree with the raven guy

I always wanted Salamanders to have a few successor chapters that were more…angry. Just to even it out xD

That's interesting. I thought they hate each other

Do you have a name? They sound interesting

@@northernexile Angels of Absolution. They even took part in the latter stages of the Siege of Vraks as they were given the task by Azrael to capture the Alfa Legionare warlord.

Yeah, all great picks. I knew most of the details you mentioned, only thing that's new on me is the Minotaurs being Iron Warriors successors, that's interesting. Main reason I'm replying is because, funnily enough, one of my long term projects is home-brewing a SW proxy that's less cringe-inducing and when it comes to official chapters, the White Scars are the ones I've "borrowed" most from. They're of course only one amongst many other inspirations, but they're certainly the best example of how to implement such a culture in 40K. Overall they draw on the archetype of the Wild Hunt and the broader Indo-European phenomenon of the Koryos (and more specifically I guess, Ulfhednar). Could go deeper explaining the symbology/spirituality but the comment would be much longer than it already is lol. Working title is "The Furious Host" but that may be too on the nose. To the wider Imperium, they're a fleet-based chapter who appear at random, wreak bloody and uncompromising destruction upon the enemy, then disappear, much like the Carcharodons. But unlike the latter, they don't seem to recruit from any of the worlds they visit, which has led to speculation that they do in fact have a home world from which to draw aspirants. If this is the case, its location, composition, habitability, or any other details are completely unknown, although whether this is due to their general uncooperativeness or some deeper secret is likewise, cause for speculation. Anyway, I'll stop rambling at you about unsolicited homebrew lol. I'd be interested to hear how you tackle this kind of thing with your Azure Wolves though.

@Armata Strigoi That's cool dude. I love hearing about people's homebrews. This'll also probably be a long comment as well, lol. That said, another chapter you could possibly draw some inspiration from, if you don't know them already, are the Storm Wardens (space scots). I actually started with Space Wolves as my first army I collected, but as I got more into ancient Germanic culture, history, and religion (having always been naturally drawn to it) I realized how awful of a job they do of representing it. So I decided to make my own, and after a couple incarnations of the chapter, I've settled on them being White Scars successors, though they're still very much a WIP. Originally, I described them as just being a "Germanic themed chapter" but realized that was too vague/broad so narrowed it to a relative handful of tribes to take as the base for them. As well as some key myths I wanted to include. Some small nods to their inspiration is that they're a 9th founding chapter. 9 being the number of Woden/Odin. I'm going to model all the combat knives in my army as saexs. They also use spears, a good selection can be found on those new stormcast for AoS. Some not so small nods are: The 1st company are My Einherjar, all having the finest artifaced armor and weapons the chapter can produce, as befitting the Veterans of the Chapter. The scout company is based on the Harii, so all their armor, weapons, and even faces are painted completely black. The ranks of my chapter are a bit on the nose, like chaplains are Godi, captains are jarls, etc. My Ulfhednar are a special unit. And to go a little into it, the White Scars primarch curse (this is something every chapter has and originates from the Deathwatch tabletop rpg) is that they eventually lose themselves to a berserker rage basically. My Ulfhednar are the members of each company that have mastered this rage and unleash it in battle. 9 squads exist, each comprised of 9 warriors led by a Godi (i.e. it's a 10-man squad, but the Sergeant is modeled as a chaplain). I also have some wild hunt as well. A demi-company formation that is outside the normal chapter structure. Comprised of "dead" marines (basically when a marine is chosen for the Hunt, they are added to the list of the dead and not permitted to speak to those outside the hunt) and chaplains (the only ones allowed to speak outside the hunt). They're exclusively made up of bikers and jump pack marines. They all wear black with hooded skull faces helmets. Their homeworld of Aesirheim (working title) lies to the galactic North and borders the Halo stars, which they patrol. It's a fuedal/Tribal world of predominantly dense forests but does have rolling hills, steppes, icy fjords, and mountains. The chapter sends out "expedition fleets," usually consisting of a company or two each in order to respond to threats and, in general, patrol the areas considered under their protection. Kind of akin to viking raids, but less pillaging (unless you're a xenos). That's pretty much where I'm at with them, and I'd love to hear more about your dudes. Apologies if this was too long and kind of rambly, I am kinda tired when writing this.

And not deriving a shred of satifaction/pride from it 😆

Yeah and Angron Humanity

But he took on lion and gulliman at once and nearly killed both?

Yes but there is a solid reason WHY the Minotaurs get away with stuff. It’s narrative harmony - they are the suck boys to the High Lords of Terra…guys higher that the Inquisiton. Even a Grey Knight or Custodes couldn’t legally touch a Minotaur and that’s saying a lot. But there is a reason for it. Space Wolves break the narrative because they’re Space Wolves so…go with it. Nah. Killing custodes I’m with you on, they shouldn’t need to do that. But getting away with murder? Yeah that’s fine for a chapter that is basically the High Lords chamber militant.

@@northernexile I would argue the bit bout the High Lords outranking the Inquisition. Material I read makes it clear that EVERYONE, high lords included, falls under the =I='s authority. (albeit, as the Ultras would put it, this is more of a theoretical than a practical case as every faction has at some point or other got in a fight with them) I would argue Wolves get the (unfairly or not) First Founder privilege within the Imperium. First Founder chapters get away with a lot (looking at you Unforgiven) more than post second founding chapters (RIP Celestial Lions). But I can see the logic even if I differ slightly.