"The rise of auditing" and downfall of security company Mitie. Filming has always been an "everyday activity", just like the "everyday activities" of police and security who employ uneducated gormless egotistical plonkers. Apparently the pair of not so mighty half men at "Mitie" has learned the hard way about copyright, public access, public photography, citizen journalists / RU-vidrs and the law, etc. Then the two suited up jobsworths who acted like backyard comedians with stage-fright realised they were up against a far superior opponent, a gentleman who was articulate, knowledgeable, and well versed in the law. Embarrassed, nonsensical and defeated, the pair of dimwits immediately began backpedalling off to do the walk of shame. AB, your "My Photograph" video is an absolutely brilliant piece of work. Sir Auditing Britain, your viewers and subscribers have awarded you a knighthood for your chivalry and outstanding community service.
Police have no 1st hand knowledge of security services, I once had the job of training our police service in what security services were all about be it static guards, mobile patrols, armed payroll escort and crowd control.
I worked for mitie for a few months, like all big companies they are full of deadwood pompous management. I would bet good money these two have completed this training and skimmed through without taking even the basic information on board. Well done AB
Mitie basically supply different services and contractor personnel to corporate clients. Services such as security guarding, facilities management, catering, cleaning, CCTV control rooms, gardening, post rooms. I think I've covered most of them, might be a couple I've missed out. I worked for Mitie myself for a little while, well over 10 years ago now. They're nothing special. Sh*t*e Mitie was the nickname us frontline staff and contractors had for them.
Yeah, I'm proud to get knocked back by Mitie due to a slight blemish on my application form for a maintenance/caretaker job looking after a government funded fish research project. They only seem to employ people without any such blemishes. I think I dodged a bullet.
Even worse than a Copper cuz theres less accountability in the Private Sector. Wouldn't be surprised if he was a SACKED Copper and pulled some dodgy strings to get a Private Sector job
That company putting that info about Auditing on their website has just opened a can of hurt for them...all Auditors in the UK will now go and audit them, and rightly so! Great job as usual AB!
I will audit them in Scotland for sure just changed my channel into an audit channel now will take my lead from AB, Charlie V, and Audit Yorkshire, and others.
don't know for certain regarding English law, but in Scotland whatever side the posts are on are that sidses responsibility ... so from what I see it looks council/publicl property
@@shipahoy1001 They wouldn't know what Bad Side means. But it's the first thing I noticed and was just going through the comments to see if other had noticed.
Absolute quality as normal AB. How rude of them to use your video images without permission to highlight their own agenda against the auditing community! Civil claim AB?🤔👍👑
Mate, grammatically the first part of your sentence does not make a lot of sense. You could write, "Mitie have shot themselves" or "Mitie has shot itself". Thank you for correcting the spelling.
His face though "The head of all things" lol just priceless when his face drops over the fact they haven't asked for permission 🤣 😂 😅 I had reply that part 6 times and it still makes me laugh well done A.B
The security manager doesn't understand implied rights of access! Shocking how these guy are trained. They are basically bouncers - 'what you doing here? Ya names not down, you ain't coming in' attitude. The guy said "turn your camera off, point it over there, take your mask down and tell me your name" ... Who the hell does he think he is ordering someone about like that when they aren't even standing on their property ?! All you gotta do is let them talk and within a couple of minutes they show themselves up to be low IQ people that have very little common sense. And these two were proper fannies.
Someone is saying the security manager was once a copper. He gave that away when AB put his foot on the fence and the manager said "your foots on our fence that's our property" . You get well trained in the police to be that petty. Also said you are threatening and intimidating. They have to try and escalate it. These guys are an embarrassment.
Yes for sure below average IQ goons , they just need to open their mouths and you can see it. The more stupid people the more obvious it gets to everyone except to themselves.
Pity that their head of security for Mitie skipped reading their own internal materials on auditing, since he fell for just about everything mentioned in the pamphlet. They should use your video to train the rest about how to NOT handle someone with a camera.
So I'm in Turkey having brand new teeth, a brand new smile and I'm in a bit of pain but I'm using my new smile laughing at your audit AB. Miles away watching my favourite auditor. Funny guy. Stay well my friend.
Big respect AB, I love that you went to this location after they stole our work. As we already know I have made and are continuing to make enquiries regarding this. Big Up AB
head of security just invited every auditor in the uk 2 visit their car park's everywhere they have an office. not the sharpest tool in the box is he. he really was clueless.
Sharpest tool in the box?? E looks like a blunt chisel. Not a very clever chap is he strutting his stuff in front of the camera. Well he gave a performance for for us via a.b. and u tube. Thank u mr mittie. Nice building shame about the fence. Needs securing as it's not to secure is it. What impressions does that say to visitors. An if its private as you say why is there a reception and receptionist and nice airy place for visitors to be made welcome. Mr mittie you are predudist if you are not going to let a.b. in as a member of the public with a valid complaint about the company..
You need to bill them AB. And you are free to set whatever price you feel is reasonable at the top end of the market rate. They have already used it without permission so simply taking it down will not suffice. They need to pay you.
That is the former Met chorus girl Commander Ian Carter or as I called him during his vetting, PC Actually. This is the Met Cretin that claimed there was no added threat of terrorism to the residents of the dozen or so council flats equipped with surface to air missiles during the 2012 Olympics. The anti-Terrorism missile implacements were less of a target than a Boots the Chemist, according to that terrorism genius. The year after soldier Lee Rigby was beheaded just outside one of those very locations.
I TUPE’d into them a few years ago, spent 5 years there on the Technical Facilities side I then was cast adrift when the contract ended. They had a terrible reputation within their staff, I had a non working supervisor in charge of 2 of us. We couldn’t get help on the contract to do any work, there’s no money in the contract we were told, but enough money to employ someone to lord it over us. When we fell at behind with breakdowns and service works they got another supervisor to try to gee us along, we were managed to death by useless ex-engineers promoted out of harms way. When I was there, they carried out an internal questionnaire about the staff perception of Mitie and had a big shock. They were slagged off over and over from engineers who hated being there. They were listed in the top ten worst companies in the UK, it was in a national newspaper ( the Sun I think ). This knob is typical of their petty ways, this is our land, our buildings, get your foot off our fence etc. When you point out they’ve “stolen” your image they couldn’t give a shit about “your” ownership of your property, it only works one way with them, “can you prove it” the cheeky bastard.
😂😂😂 best epic fail ever. A company that claims to be able to teach how to deal with Auditors. What an absolute Muppet that head of security was. If I was looking for a company to help teach that I wouldn't go to them after watching the head of security made himself look like a total fool
I would have thought that after publicising a document for the world to see, about how to be aware of and how to handle auditors, they would have been prepared for a visit and not sent two childish, stupid clowns out to deal with you. They're right about auditors being a problem but only for the companies/people that keep breaking the law and abusing peoples rights, like they did with two pictures.
Another beauty. "Section 33 of the criminal (right)?? does not apply here, it applies to places like a Tescos car park or something like that, it doesn't apply to a private business." Uhhhmmm I think we can all agree that Tescos is a private business. This guy really has no idea does he. Gold , absolute gold.
I have a mate who does a lot of sub contracting work supplying security guards for Mitie Security and they are a nightmare to get money out off. Just about put him out the game a few times.
This head of security is so ill informed that he has to be an ex-cop. You can tell MITIE are raking it in from bloated government contracts at the expense of the taxpayer if their office is in the shard.
digital photos have meta data you can see in the "properties" tab when you mouse over, it will have the date it was taken, any modifications and it might even have your name if you do batches of photos, but if YOU took that photo YOU have copyright regardless, it would be incredibly difficult to fake the meta data on a photo - especially on your own computer and especially on a phone. you have an appointment though...
This was good, my husband pointed this channel out. Regular folk are sick and tired of being told what they can`t do until we fight back and realize that people still have freedoms.
Well they certainly don't practice what they preach, in one video you have completely undermined their whole purpose, great audit, it was the gift that kept on giving 🤣
No need to fat shame anyone in any profession. They may be stupid, but judging based off of their appearance, you're a bit of a bellend that needs to go out and buy a few manners.
Those two are 24kt RU-vid Gold. Specialising in Audit Prevention by attracting all the auditors across the U.K to audit them. Using A.B and Marti's photos is creating a perfect storm. Those two security heads are trained to escalate word perfect.
LOL their "Rise of Auditors" document ends by saying auditing is a legal activity and the focus should be to de escalate and disengage with them. the "head of security" of Mitie the people who published your copyrighted material ESCALATED and engaged with you by approaching you when you were not even on their property and without even checking with his own reception started telling you what to do and started making an issue of you calling to them to tell them about their breaking of the copyright law. then having offered to assist he moved to the "nothing to do with me" mode.
Total bolx.. A.B was at a totally separate division of the company. I thought the dude with the tie was fairly helpful. He told him where to contact to have his issue looked at by those who construct the website and look after its legalities. I think A.B kept mishearing him... Not the best here from A.B.
@@robotsonmars1989 people are free to walk into any publically accessible office. AB did that. He was asked to return. BEFORE he returned hevwas approached by someone who did not identify. That person gave him a makey uppy line about him trespassing but never trespassed him. He said the property was private and AB had been on it. It was explained that AB had indeed been on it and had been asked to return there. The hearsay about the person who ASKED HIM TO RETURN being frightned of him was just that... Hearsay. The man who later identified as "head of security" then offered to help. This was a copyright issue and nothing to do with him but he persisted. He was then shown tbe copyright issue oddly in a publication on security about which the head of security was ignorant! He then confirmed what he was already told... It was nothing to do with him and in spite of offering to help he fobbed it off. He could easily call head office and state they have a copyright complaint but all he really wanted to do it seems was get rid of someone from his workplace.
@@bartconnolly6104 Nope ..Not free to walk in.It had a door entry system .He was buzzed in. He's the head of security of a totally different division and told A.B where to direct his enquiry to get onto the correct course if he wants to pursue a copyright claim. Absolutely no point in adding another layer to it.. As far as the woman being distressed I'm guessing she contacted security after getting A.B out of the building. If she did feel that way the inviite back was just a rouse to get him out. He was never getting back in my opinion.
@@johnnybird7593 Lol I don't work for Mitie but I do have many Years in the services and 30+ years in Security in various positions. Yes I do see a lot of poor interactions on these types of videos but in all honesty this one was ok. If they did indeed want AB out of the building they got him out of there quite easily and with little hassle. They still gave him all the info he required to pursue his copyright grievance via the appropriate avenue.. That particular site had no input or influence on the construction of Mities website. AB may have had a valid argument but he was having it with the wrong people.
MITIE are an appalling organisation with their never ending outsourcing activity . These two plonkers are so inept . It is incredible that they acted in such a petty and ineffective way .
Glad you said your going home to ‘wind them up bro. Honestly’ you do a great amount of work‘doing everything correctly. I hope that other auditors can follow your example AB 👍
You shouldn’t have gone down there and warned them. Celebrities get sued all the time for posting photos of themselves on instagram without paying for permission from the photographers that took them. Their a big company you could likely even now with the evidence recorded sue them for thousands for stealing your intercultural property for use on their company website. Get them done. 👍
@@AuditingBritain , Ian Carter stated at least twice that he was the head of security, and yet i did not see him actually prove that by lifting up his identity card which appeared to be attached to his belt. I could see the wheels turning and the smile disappear from his face when he suddenly realised that the video could end up being shown in a civil hearing to determine intellectual property or misuse of the photographs.
That was hilarious. The "Head of Security" came up with more stories than the brothers Grimm! You legitimately have a good claim on their using your copyrighted material. I'd certainly chance it or, at least, talk to a legal expert about it. It would be hilarious to read about you getting compensation from them for using your picture in their anti-auditing training!
A company that publishes information about auditors and how you approach auditors completely fails in how to approach an auditor, you couldn't make it up, 🤦🏻♂, well done AB with another great audit
Right click on the image and it should give you all the details you need to proof it was your image. Tells you camera, lens, f stop, what time it was taken. Can only be done on the original image.
Those two cats are only involved with security and that's it. They just made a mockery of that company. If I were the CEO of that company I would fire both of those characters right now.
@@xtrubblex86 If it is "internal training" why is it on their public website? Why is it posted on the internet rather than the company's intranet. Mitie is a security company that makes money by offering security services and training for a profit.
@@Ohm_mega if the document is for training and is not for commercial purposes, they can use someone’s image as an example to others. Read up on fair use
@@rachelmcdonald410 If the document was for internal use only why was it put on the *internet* instead of the company *intranet* Fair use also requires that the user acknowledge the source or comment on the reason for the image or footage used. While producing an article about Roman roads in Britain I used a copyrighted image of a Roman road, listed the source, and commented on the nature of the road. What comment did the "training" article make about either of the "auditors" or the way they carry out their "audits"? What lessons do the "trainers" draw from the images used, or are they using the images as part of a glossy brochure advertising their "training courses"?
Well done AB. Spot on, as usual. Pursue the copyright infringement. I am an author and well versed in the dangers of illegal image use. It's a minefield when using images found online. They should be far more knowledgeable about it... and the two plastic coppers are just the usual bell-ends with dillusions of self importance.
Aaaah, so Leonardo da Vinci never owned the mona lisa because he wasnt in it..... Holy shit, the stuff a low level security guard knows about owning a picture is amazing. Top notch....
It takes 11 pages of misinformation before the last paragraph of the Mitie "Auditing" security propaganda states the activity is legal. Exceptional work Mitie !
What a terrible look for a company purporting to know how to deal with auditors. I don't believe the receptionist was upset by you, I think he got his knickers in a knot because the notorious AB came in, made an inquiry, sat calmly waiting for a response and then left and he missed it all and was now playing catch up. He probably realised too late that you had been there, came out and questioned the receptionist and made her feel like she had made a mistake. He really came across as someone thinking he had screwed up and needed to get back in front of things. He did not want to have to tell his boss Auditing Britain paid them a visit and no one, including the head of security, noticed. From now on his title will be the dickhead of security.
Oh the irony of this video is poetic, when Laurel & Hardy turn up spouting their mouths off and you can almost see the big man's arse has dropped through his pants when he clocks that you're an auditor. You have every right to claim payment from them for using your photo', they can't just use it without your permission, as you know.
16:58 For a security guy who seems to have heard about s33, he gets it totally wrong. s33 doesn't apply anywhere as it only applies to groups in a uniform. It's pure gaslighting by auditors. He thinks it only applies to supermarkets etc. That means he's had crap legal advice. What an embarrassment for a security company.
S33 is a description of public places for the wearing of paramilitary uniforms, you’re right about that bit. BUT it is STILL a description of a public place. It’s probably our only such description in law.
@@MrAndrewFarrow Public place appears with its definition in a number of pieces of legislation, such as section 1(4) of the Prevention of Crime Act 1953. Enough that it's a common legal term. There is also case law that further defines it, Knox v Anderton where a corridor in a block of flats was defined as a public place as it was used regularly as a short cut and that meant a person arrested there with a knife got found guilty.
Exactly. I'm surprised AB keeps quoting that Act given that it's nothing to do with public access. It just amended earlier legislation to make it an offense to wear political uniforms on privately owned land that is accessible to the public as well as publicly owned land.
Can you sue them for using your work with out Permission!!! Because these are the ones making up rules and training police and security to break real rules and publics rights! And Also its time for you to make some T-shirt's made and caps, your so famous 162k subscribers, they are stealing your intellectual work. Get yourself a PA and lawyers. I think you should just sue them and if you want give it to charity but up to you, point is don't let them think they can get away with this sort of behavior. The guy came out like he was the big boss you have to answer to him like he was the police or higher being, acting like they have supreme power seriously!
Just FYI Photographs are protected under the law of Copyright as it has been included as an artistic work. ... Ordinarily, the author is the first owner of the copyright in a work created by him. In case of a photograph, the photographer will be the first owner unless there is an agreement to the contrary Photographs are protected by copyright just like any other piece of creative work, and is protected in UK law by the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 and some EU directives that came into force in 1989, and under these acts they come under the classification 'Artistic Work'
Like many things, they are exceptions. Fair use being one of them. The use of copywritten images in things like training and education can easily fall within fair use. If the image is used for illustrative purposes and not for commercial gain, it might come under fair use. They should have at least credited the image though.
@@Stuart_George While you are completely correct in what you've said, their website is one big advertising platform and as such this image is being used for commercial gain. There is only one description for what they have done, copyright theft, a criminal offence.
Oh dear, AB you would have thought that a company of their size with their knowledge of the subject matter that document is about, namely Auditing and Auditors would have not been so dumb as to steal your intellectual property. Go for them my friend, they do not have a leg to stand on, that is copyright theft slam dunk.
