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I've had a similar situation but a Coleman 17b from camping world have issues with it. Couldn't get in. Finally got in and they had it for 2 and 1/2 months. They fixed some stuff. There was two page list. I get it back what they fixed is so shoddy I could have fixed it myself but I said hey you know it's under warranty and they got to fix all this stuff. Let him fix this too. It's just a lot of little stuff but it's like molding issues staple sticking out. They replaced my kitchen cabinet because it was all warped on the bottom. The new one now all the paper is coming off. I mean I can go on and on about the stuff going on and pretty good camper overall but it's just horrible. They had my camper for 2 and 1/2 months and now I got a cracked toilet too and I didn't have a cracked toilet before. I'm missing a piece out of my air conditioner that wasn't missing. There is a lot of stuff that happened
In the spirit of helping people out, why not do a video on why you should never buy a slide out unit.. Then buy polyurethane and painters tape and seal all joints again..
@@markeverettjohnson99 Never buy an RV from C.W. I don't care what or how much it is, NEVER buy from C.W. I also suspect that they get rejects from some manufacturers as a cost cutting measure (but I have no evidence to back that claim up, it just seems that they have more troubled units is my personal experience after talking to others), so customers are at a disadvantage even before they drive off the lot.
Yup, we inherited a timeshare and really enjoy it with our family. Nice pools, food and spa services. Never had any problems with it except high pressure to buy more points. Nope. We are happy with the points we have.
Lawyer says people should wait and not buy a camper now. Poor quality and consumers dont have any rights because of the contracts that they make the purchasers sign when you buy.
@@LizAmazingI don’t know if they even will. The business plan of most corporations nowadays are to own such a large chunk of the market share consumers have little choice, so it indefinitely keeps them in business despite bad quality. This is across the entire economy.
@@Fitz710You are correct. But it's even worse. I've worked in manufacturing for almost 20 years now. I have watched quality decline across many areas of manufacturing. This is a systemic issue deep within our economy. Every company tries to push out as much product as they can, as quickly as they can, as cheaply as they can. This is why Boeing has parts falling off planes, and trains are derailing. They are choosing quantity over quality. This is also a monetary issue. When our currency is devalued as much as ours has been, companies have to make their products out of cheaper materials to keep them profitable & affordable. If they build quality products with quality materials, no one will be able to afford them. This is why common household appliances that used to last decades are practically disposable now.
Liz amazing is no longer your typical RV travel channel. The channel has transformed into a customer help channel. Her subscriber numbers have escalated accordingly. Go get them, Liz.❤
@mr.mcbeavy1443 Liz is still doing videos. She has turned into a customer advocate for RV owners who are getting shafted by manufacturers. She married another fellow. He doesn't get into the videos.
I owned a RV motorhome for two years, always something to fix or something didn't work right, long trips on the road, a few breakdowns, after two years I had had enough and sold it. Never again and haven’t looked back. My wife and I are back to being happy again. We went back to renting a room at a hotel, motel or condominium. It was just so much easier. My advice is don’t be fooled by others and all the RV and camping B.S. stuff they tell you.
Can I please say once again IF you are buying any RV any RV always get a full inspection hired by you. Get an inspection if they will not let you have an inspector then walk away because what are they hiding? I am so sorry what this person had to go through there needs to be lemon laws for RVs.
I wish that was true. I reached out to the # provided by CW. The gal was rude and didnt want to be bothered. Others have reported that the customer service complaint # is a waste of time. I contacted BBB to be at least compensated for the damage they caused. Factory promised to fix it, but they didn't. My original warranty claim (water leaks, electrical shorts and mold) was first reported in Dec 2022. My camper is ruined now.
Yes. Get inspection. Unfortunately I later found out that my walk thru was done with another a diiferent camper and Vin#. They said too late " you already signed the paperwork". Lets not blame the victim. Both CW and factory have not honored the warranty contact and caused damage to my camper. I should be compensated.
@@backtoasimplelife RV Manufacturers need a huge Class Action Lawsuit and federal regulations to change their behavior. Without that, they'll keep doing it. I remember I had a 2021 Coachmen Chaparral that had water leaks right off the lot. I brought it in for warranty service and they fixed that area. About 4 weeks later, the back of my camper started delaminating. Brought it back again, and they "Fixed" it. Once I got it back again, it started delaminating again 2 weeks later, and the outlets on the back side of the camper stopped working. I took the outlets out and it was beyond soaked back there. I could wring the insulation out like a sponge. A lot of the inner wood was starting to rot and get soft. I brought it back in again, and this time they wouldn't touch it. They said it needed the whole back end of the camper replaced, and it had to be done by the manufacturer, (which is a 3 day drive from where I am) I called Coachmen (Owned by Forest River) and told them about the issues, etc etc. They claimed that the earliest they'd be able to fix it was in October of 2022. (I called them in January of 2022) So for those months I waited, I had the whole camper covered under a tarp to avoid more water leaks. Once I had paid and arranged for the camper to be delivered over there, Coachmen called me one week before my appointment and said they cant do the work because the warranty expired in June of 2022 unless I paid for the costs (Which was quoted at above $23,000) Coachmen decided to not honor my warranty even though I had set the appointment up 6 months before my Warranty expired. A bunch of back and forth and hardly getting any help from Coachmen, in late November of 2022, I told them that if they didnt fix my camper, or buy it back that I would be seeking advice from a lawyer. They ghosted me when I said that. A week later I called them and threatened one final time, and the man on the phone literally said "Bring it. Sue us" and then he hung up the phone. A few days later, I hired a lawyer, and the lawyer found they were in breach of warranty contract because they didn't fix my camper even though they were aware of the issue long before the warranty was up. My lawyer sent lawsuit papers to Coachmen with his findings, and this was brought into court in March of 2023. The case went on for a couple days and Coachmen's lawyers were working really hard to convince the judge that they were unaware of my campers issues (which was countered by proof that an appointment for the issue was set up in Jan of 2022. In the end, the Judge THANKFULLY Ruled in my favor, and forced Coachmen to buy my camper back and awarded me $6000 ontop for my troubles. Coachmen refunded me the cost of the camper (Which was about $60,000) so I got $66,000 in my settlement. However, after I won the case against Coachmen, Coachmen called me a few weeks later and told me I was banned from any Coachmen store or lot and that they would not sell me another camper again. Good Riddance to them. I purchased a slightly used 2018 Jayco in June of 2023 and this camper has had zero issues other than the microwave not working. But that was a cheap fix.
I own a Cedarcreek. But I would not set foot on Camping Worlds lot to buy anything. Mine has been good so far with minor trouble. But my dealer has taken care of all of my issues without the big wait. This ladys story is sad and I hope Forest River steps up here and does the right thing.
This woman should get a Full Refund and Damages for Mold Exposure. What a Scam to run out time on their Warranty so they can give a final Nope! Forest River’s Strategy is to ignore you Liz. Make them Pay!
There should be a lemon law for RV’s We spent a lot of money on these rig’s and should be protected. Hopefully video’s like this will help make changes happen. Thank you Liz for keeping us informed.
@@hasonlavajunk9774 It's not the same laws as for regular vehicles otherwise they wouldn't have had to explicitly exclude RVs from the regular vehicle lemon laws. If they weren't excluded then this indeed would not be as big of an issue. The specific "RV" lemon laws you are referring to make it easy for manufacturers to get away with selling junk.
@@davidb.5544 sorry, you’re wrong. I just lemon lawed mine recently. It was exactly like a car. They gave me three options on how to proceed. 1. Return unit with full repayment plus interest. 2. Return for replacement. 3. Cash and keep, fix it yourself. 2022 Thor motorhome. Had body fitment issues that weren’t fixed after three attempts.
My wife and I are empty nesters now. We were considering buying an RV or camper since my job allows me to work from anywhere. Not anymore. Liz thank you for your hard work! You've saved us from making a $200k mistake. Since the rv and camper industry no longer knows how to make a quality product, we will not be buying.
Find a good used one. I've owned several older used campers which were awesome. RV's were just made better back in the day. This whole "light weight BS" does nothing but upsets folks when they find out cardboard gets weak when it get wet.
Liz, your call to action to rally support for change within the RV industry is truly inspiring and showcases the power of community in advocating for accountability and transparency.
@@LizAmazing It's heartening to hear that you're feeling the impact of your efforts, Liz. Your dedication to making a difference in the RV community is commendable, and I'm grateful to be a part of this journey with you.
I get bombarded with Camp World ads on my phone. I wouldn't buy a garbage truck from them. It is good that you continue to expose manufacturers for their poor excuse for what they sell. It is time people stop buying from these criminals. These stories confirm what I have been hearing from RV'ers all over.
Camping world was a horrible experience for us!! They make terrible things. Horrible business practice by all companies involved. Shame on all of them!!
These days simply inform the dealer and manufacturer that they are about to have a million veiws to their potential customers. The photos tell all.Out of business is what they need!
I've never owned a camper, I always tent camp. I prefer my cabin cruiser for outdoor time. I've looked at campers many many times....but always had the feeling, DON'T DO IT" LOL they're all junk! I watch all your videos, and as I said, I will never own one. I just watch because I have tremendous respect for the tireless and brave work you are doing! You are one amazing woman, thank you for all you do!!!!!
Wow, thank you so much for your kind words! Fortunately there are some well built used RVs out there. But the new stuff coming out of Elkhart has been suspect these past four years.
I feel so bad for these RV buyers the aggravation, money lost and time they missed by not able to use them. Something is definitely wrong with this industry. Most people that buy RVs aren’t wealthy people. Liz you are amazing.
Yes! I have some happy stories coming up. Stay tuned. And thanks for watching. Also, feel free to share this video to help get the word out. I do want to do a happy update for Gina for sure!
The biggest issue with RVing is getting service. The industry is blowing up, has been blowing up but not enough technicians out there. They need to start RV repair schools nationwide.
Like everything else, there never seems to be enough nurses or doctors in many locations, and the RV service tech needs to work hard at bringing in new talent as well! But I say 'quality tech's' are what's needed, not the same guy that checks your rig out at Camping World, that's for sure.
Would like to see congress pass a RV Lemon Law that is similar to the automotive lemon law. I’m glad I’m not looking at a Forest River and will share this video with all I meet.
Not going to happen because most RV manufacturers are owned by Wall Street. Warren Buffet with Berkshire Hathaway along with Thor Industries bought most of the mom and pop builders to dominate the RV industry.
I am glad these manufactures and dealers are finally getting exposed, sad for the buyers who spending a lot of money on these units and than they give them the run around at the time of need. Crazy !
from what I understand when the warrantee is up, they determined that is the life of the trailer, I worked at a cargo trailer factory, and they had a three-year warrantee and that was the life of the trailer, kind of tells you what they think of the quality of their own companies' products.
Another sad story. I feel so bad for all these people but so happy you are working for these people. Congratulations on 127K. I know you are lying low but hope you are enjoying life and having some fun.
I'm convinced that all glowing, positive reviews for many RVs are just purchased by the manufacturer and not genuine. They will not stand up for their own cheaply made products.
Lemon laws need to be changed in every state to hold RV manufacturers and dealers to the same standard vehicles are held to. Nothing will change otherwise.
Feel so sad for that lady. After going to Camping World once, I have never ever never been back. they try to add up all kinds of crap to your bill and by the way, I bought a used camper that had black tanks FULL of you know what. and the frig didnt work at all on propane.
My understanding is that Camping World contract has many exclusions which state that Camping World is not responsible for the warranty on the unit. I’m concerned that when this person called Forest River, Forest River told her that she would have to go through the dealer. If it’s not a dealer warranty and it’s only a manufacturer warranty, why would the customer have to go through the dealer to get warrantyservice. Attorneys need to be involved in these RV transactions.
Hi Steve. Thanks for watching and your feedback. Its been to dealer and to factory in Indiana. So far has been in for service a total of 192 days. More damge caused while at dealer. This is how my camper was returned to me from Forest River Plant#20 in Topeka, IN. Now I cant even open my awning.
You’re amazing Liz. This has to be the most depressing, yet necessary, work being done in the entire RV industry. I had been thinking about buying an rv for 3/4 time living but now I’m kind of gripped after watching all these tales of woe. Is this just a fundamentally corrupt industry? Should I avoid it entirely? I’d really appreciate your advice. Keep up the good work!
So many horror stories that you share Liz. In my life, I have made two RV purchases, one and 2013 and another in 2016. Both of these RVs have held up very well. After seeing all of your videos , particularly this one, I don’t think I want to even dare buy another RV.
Hi lady...we are so sorry to keep hearing about how this industry is going to the dogs...that poor lady...said it before ...doing a fantastic job..thank you...J&A2ofus
Time to start hounding @ForestRiverInc to fix it. It is disgusting how these manufacturers are screwing over their customers. Don't even get me started on @CampingWorld, that is a colossal mess, and they DO NOT care!
Sorry to hear that! Not a good time to buy new, but trailers and fifth wheels built in 2018 and before tend to be well-built. The motorhome sweet spot is 2002 to 2008. Before you buy, join the Facebook group of the model to get the scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Another advantage of buying used is the seller has typically gotten the kinks out. Thanks for watching. For more about what to buy used see my recent video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JSo5n2B62MA.html
With everything that has been going on with RV manufacturers and dealers I see only one option (for me at least) and that is to not buy another camper in the U.S. until the industry changes its practices.
(ALL) the industries & businesses mentioned in this video-BEWARE BEWARE BEWARE. And yes, first, locate a qualified inspector, then start your RV search and NO inspection then NO sale. Thank you Liz
We had a FR unit at one time...I was glad we were able to sell it. Never will own another, the service was lacking at best and as you can see from this video, the craftsmanship is nonexistent.
This lady absolutely came to the right person to get results. New to your channel but I am very impressed with what you have been able to accomplish for other people.
Forest River is owned by Berkshire Hathaway a billion dollar corporation which sole purpose is to generate shareholder value. I think once a company has so many layers of insulation from the consumer their focus remains on the profit margins and to hell with standing up and doing the right thing and correctly fixing this ladies RV. Since state legislators and the courts have failed to deal with the RV industry maybe the Federal courts would do a better job of enforcing consumer protection laws.
Ive been rv shopping for over two years. Everytime i find multiple owner reviews of problems in the first year i take them off my list. The money for a camper is 30 days away , and i have no campers on my list. That says it all! Im renting one, $50,000 was the cheapest camper i found. No f-ing way am i throwing it away on any campers! Im done searching.😢
Yep, it's amazing how expensive these new RVs have become. If you are still shopping, I would consider buying used. Not a good time to buy new, but trailers and fifth wheels built in 2018 and before tend to be well-built. The motorhome sweet spot is 2002 to 2008. Before you buy, join the Facebook group of the model to get the scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Another advantage of buying used is the seller has typically gotten the kinks out. Thanks for watching. For more about what to buy used see my recent video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JSo5n2B62MA.html
It seems, after looking at the many campers on the market, there are very few dissing 'Brinkley' to date. It might be the only one I'd choose, albeit it's more expensive than many others, there again if your paying for quality, it may be the best route!
This very same situation happen to me and i have been fighting them since 2020. I had the very same situation as this lady (have) to include Forest River keeping 5000 dollars in reimbursements unless i sign a waiver. Same bedroom floor issue that i paid them to fix. Forest river destroyed my rv along with forest river. Sadly mine was two years old when i asked for help here so im screwed for life. Yet i have the very same issues and more here. My awning was damaged. The bedroom floor is a disaster and so much more. No help for me from anywhere tho. I hate these oeople with a passion.
So sorry for this lady. Is Camping World and Forrest River just blowing her off because she’s a woman hoping she will just give up? I always felt that Camping World sucked after dealing with them once but I thought Forrest River was better than this.
You know what the unfortunate thing about this channel is? Its been needed for years! Just glad its here now.....thank you for all your efforts to support those who watch and also share their sad stories!!
Camping World is not the one to take full blame. If the RV manufacturers made them as they should then this would be a completely different story. Building garbage never gets you very far.
I feel very bad for her , too bad these manufacturers dont care about the quality of their products and just push them out the door. It will keep me from buying new! I sold my rv and have not replaced it yet. Still looking for the right one but I am being cautious 😊
I had this same problem on a much much smaller scale. I bought a weed eater with an extend warranty and during its warranty time it broke. I know, cry me a river right. But let me finish. I called the company and spent about a month arguing about it. They wanted picture after picture of the broken weed-eater. It was ridiculous. But ultimately after a month of back and forth they did send me a check for $150 which is what they owed me. My point is this picture thing seems like part of the scam.
Drove by a lot near Squeim Washington and saw a bunch of Grand Design rigs there and thought god help the poor bastards that buy those pos’s. It’s terrible how bad things have gotten. I’ve owned a a couple of FR rigs and thought they were pretty good but then again they were 2010 and earlier. Cheers
Me and my husband purchased a thor Miramar 2014 class A from camping world, and it has been nothing but problems for us. We also tried everything from calling and dealing with camping world. And it's like we're still stuck with lots of problems.
Liz it just amazes me that these manufacturers don’t give a damm about their reputation or the quality of their products. When I had my Cirrus 820 and had a couple issues they went out of there way to make it right. I bought this through a dealer and I was the second owner but that didn’t matter they still took care of the issues. I had purchased the Cirrus based on feedback from Scott and Sasha who were posting on there Stoney Boot channel. So my message is to manufactures pay attention to what the customers have to say. Being PENNY WIZE AND DOLLAR FOOLISH WILL COST YOU FAR MORE IN THE END. Liz keep up the good reporting.
In my opinion, the time portion of RV warranties should be suspended for the amount of time they are sitting around waiting to be worked on at the dealer or service provider so they can't stall it out with a run-around-circle-jerk.
What a contrast....Toyota in my opinion is fantastic overall in helping any customer....now there are some bad stories...but the RV industry is off the charts terrible. These poor souls spending big bucks on junk.
Another great video Liz. I am proud of that woman/owner who was smart enough to inspect the repair work and notice the installer used cheap lumber under the slide and attempted to then cover it up. It is appalling they didn't even repair it with OEM material!! Outrageous. The owner is correct, keeping a journal and document every phone number, name, date/time etc. I had to use the same tactic on our fifthweel repairs. This video highlights both failure on Camping World and Forrest River. Camping World is certainly living up to their reputation. Keep up the great work Liz!
We've been RVing for over 20 years. Mark another manufacturer off the list. I really thought Forest River was better than this considering we owned a Rockwood for a few years and it served us very well. My oh my how things have changed. It's absolutely heart breaking. I knew how horrible CW was. Doubt that will ever change. Here's to hoping FR does what is right by their customer.
Hi Liz, you should start a spreadsheet and track all the people that call you regarding mfg, type of problem, RV year, RV type, did they reach out to mfg., dealer, etc and you can think of even more. This would make it easy for you to keep track of but you will also have records of all mfg defects per model. Basically ur starting a big data base. This will carry a lot of weight later when you are in front of Congress fighting for all the rv owners. There really is no excuse for crappy manufacturing and service. Company CEOs, engineers and management get paid a lot to figure this out and improve their company. The issue is that consumers put up with poor service, high prices, gouging, alacarte pricing, and sub-par manufacturing so why should they change. I watched a video the other day where people loved this basic no frills camper (it was a small hard side and I don't remember the name) and campers were buying it bc it was cheap. There have been hundreds of complaints and consumers know about all these issues, but they still buy it. When they buy it they put hundreds and thousands in it fixing it up, but they call it customizing and are proud of it. I was like, what? You buy a NEW cheap camper you know is falling part and you call fixing all the manufacturers work customizing...LOL This is diff than renovating or buying an old camper or rv and fixing it up bc problems are expected with age and there is a big base that makes their own or renovates older rvs or campers.. Unfortunately, this backward thinking is what we've come to expect and settle for bc were trying to convince ourselves the opposite of reality. Why is this all put on the consumer? An RV or camper coming out the manufacturers door should not be as bad as what's being experienced by others and yourself.
Just hearing these stories about RV’s And the way there being treated by the manufacturers and dealers is why I got out of Rving until the system changes I will not buy another RV they know that the product is poorly constructed this to bad for the industry
I have quite simply learned that you NEVER BUY AN AMERICAN MANUFACTURED RV. Always order a caravan from the UK. They are not nearly as large or luxurious as American designs but they are high quality and last for years. 😢
Liz, you are doing a great job bringing these issues to light and trying to help people. I understand why there are so many negative experiences with RV’s. I guess we are outliers in our RV experience . Our 2022 Winnebago Vista, has been great. Almost three years old and 37,000 miles and we’ve always been able to use it. Yes, we’ve had some issues but nothing like others have had. We have done this over 35 years and owned 8 rigs. And I guess we are lucky since I can fix or diagnose a wide variety of RV issues. But my advice to folks: don’t believe what the dealer tells you, find a dealer that is trustworthy. They are out there. Get an inspection ( even with our years of experience we still had it inspected). And unfortunately, if you are not handy, I do NOT RECOMMEND the RV life. Should it be that way? No, but it is. We love the lifestyle, love the travel, but it is a lot more challenging than it should be. Thank you for your videos. Keep up the fight.
I grew up camping with my dad and brother in a small 5th wheel. We had some wonderful weekends together that I'll never forget. Dad passed away a few years ago, and I started looking at different RVs after reminiscing about our adventures. My wife and I love visiting the national parks and the California coast, and she was really excited about the idea. After doing a bunch of research, I don't think I'm comfortable buying 95% of the RV products currently out there. Maybe we'll save up until we can afford one of the fiberglass trailers like Oliver or Bigfoot. I'd rather a smaller, more expensive product that's better quality than something that's going to fall apart after a year.
Cedar Creek was top of the line. I paid $$ hoping to avoid this. I also heard even RVs > $150,000 having the problem. Perhaps rent one so you can go out and remember your dad. Sounds like he would want you to. Sorry for your loss.
Forest River owned by Berkshire Hathaway a multi billionaire and like most mega rich don't give a damn about the consumer. The RV business is in crapper if I was to buy a camper today it would be one before the pandemic. Been hearing bad reports on Camping World also.
We own a 2016 Forest River Berkshire 34QS diesel motorhome that we purchased in Sept 2015 from Motorhome Specialists in Alvarado Tx. (we live in CA). Motorhome Specialist were awesome and so has dealing with Forest River for any warranty AND out of warranty issues we have had. It's our 4th motorhome and first Forest River product and our experience dealing with Forest River has been OUTSTANDING! I don't know what y'all problems are or WHO you are trying to deal with but really you need to talk to the right people. Sometimes people go about stuff all the wrong way and get terrible results. Forest River has been stellar with customer service and they care.
Pandemic changed everything. This is how the new campers are being built and they aren't honoring the warranty contract. They dont fix and pass along to the consumer when the RV falls apart after their 1 year warranty expires.
@@Gina-misalsathat's completely untrue! We had an after warranty issue with our FR class-A diesal and Forest River TOTALLY took care of it!! It was a major issue! It happen 1 year AFTER our warranty expired!! Our motorhome was in storage for most of the first year after we bought it as I was caring for my elderly mother so we just couldn't take it out and hit the road. Then we sold our home and purchased a new home the following year and while it was being built we lived in our motorhome for 4 months. (During 100 degree temperatures) So we had our 2 air conditioners running constantly. Well the bdrm one started dripping water all over our bed. Then we noticed one of the LED ceiling lights in bdrm went out. We removed the light and noticed it was wet around it. We pressed on the ceiling and water poured out. The entire ceiling was full of water. A call (to the right people) at Forest River and they took care of EVERYTHING!! The condensation drip line from air conditioner to outside of coach was not connected so water was soaking into ceiling. Forest River gave us a repair center to go to that was close to us (We live in CA). They tore out ceiling. Repaired line, dried out everything completely and replaced entire ceiling. Looked brand new afterwards. Forest River paid for entire thing! Over $5000.00 of repairs. We were OUT of warranty! But FR took care of it anyway! They were great! I'm sorry "some" people have issues and get bad results. Not everyone does! Sometimes its who you talk to and HOW you go about it!
This is truly the most horrific story you have told, I've been around the block and I'm shocked, it's a shame I really liked that camper, they had a good idea, it actually looks like a real, house, inside and out, if it was made good I would want one, just when I thought the RV industry couldn't get any worse, you shocked me, very good video
FOREST RIVER MAKE THIS RIGHT! She needs a whole new unit. A lot of people watch this and will think twice before buying anything from Forest River. Or just not ever buy anything from Forest River. FR do the right thing!
I just watched another RV blogger basically blame the work force. IMHO it is not the basic employee. The problem is i believe the QC aka Quality Control. But you can’t blame QC, for they are led and directed by the leadership at the manufacturer. Hence, it is the upper leadership. I really tired of hearing it is the employees. It is not, it is the upper leaderships and their greed.
It's the employees. Who do you think puts the stuff together like that? Jesus. The QC guys are also... *EMPLOYEES* that don't give a shit or don't know their jobs because they're hired to check a skin color box off the list. It's entirely the employees.
A couple of brands are on my never buy list, Forest River, Jayco and most RVs from Camping World. Also I won't buy an RV made in Indiana. If you look at a lot of RVs you will see quality differences.
So sorry to hear of your issues with the Cedar Creek. I've been having the same issues with Forest River. I'll report issues, send photos and send videos and Forest River will simply state "we can't trouble shoot with pictures" but Forest River will not allow me to make another appointment to have the issues resolved. Forest River might be one of the better RV manufacturers, but the best of the worst is still bad. Hopefully you have a positive result with your Cedar Creek!
Oh my... I'm sorry for the situation... We have failed to grow crafts people to fill in for the ones that have aged out of the industry.... The industry has fallen to fulfilling production and sales quotas. Quality has become "Job Three". Please don't let up on the manufacturer...they have failed...much luck to you and hoping for a good outcome 🤞
