People* these days throw around the phrase “toxic workplace” like they throw around the phrase “abusive relationship” or “my ex was narcissistic.” SMH.
@@SC-gp7kt Yep, the company I work at has yearly training (ethics, harassment, compliance etc) - they had to add things such as: "A supervisor telling you to get to work" is Not harassment!!!
She's complaining about people not talking to her ? That sounds like my dream job, the less human interaction at work the better, I'm there to make money not friends
It can become a problem when you are being excluded for reasons never given. Your workplace can be a place to make friends, you spend hours with them a day, so it is only logical that a certain amount of kinship might develop. They might not be including her because they know she won't like all the backstabbing and gossiping that nobody gets fired over.
It ain’t college. Not a party - not a therapy session - it’s a job. It’s a tough transition but jobs are generally much more grounded in reality than what you experienced in college and it can be a shock to the system.
Absolutely. I had a bit of a hard transition when I first left my university and started working in Chicago. At the university, everyone was so friendly and nice and in Chicago was pretty much opposite. College is so different from the real world.
@@LittleMopeHead i learned a lot about real life from college. Depends on what subjects you take too. Like philosophy teaches you to recognize fake news and how to debate properly and you dont think the world would be a better place if most politicians learned better logic and debating skills? And things like kinesiology teaches you practical things to improve your fitness and athleticism. Finance teaches you how money works. Psychology teaches you about human nature and i learned a lot of practical stuff towards friendships, relationships, dating advice, how women think and why they are the way they are and how to deal with mental health like anxiety and depression. And health science has a lot of practical stuff for nutrition, dieting, weight loss, medicine, how illnesses work and vaccines work, and how to reduce disease and live longer healthier lives. Everything can be practical if you use it in the right environment.
@@maximustrolleus9860 agreed every one says the school doesn't teach them about personal finance, but I say find me one person who has never heard of the number line. I constantly quote my professors, the reality is a lot of people go to collage for that stereotypical "college experience" not to learn and for most college is nothing like that(partying).
@@maximustrolleus9860 it doesn’t teach you how different the real world is to school or how to maturely transition from student to worker apparently, or this young lady wouldn’t be calling. 🤷🏽♀️
I have worked in a toxic workplace with everyone back stabbed each other and lots of yelling and screaming. I now work in a small group and overall ignored at work and I enjoy it. I do my work and go home. No one bothers me and very little stress.
I was expecting her to be in a job that involves angry customers yelling at her or a terrible boss. All she’s dealing with is stand-offish coworkers. Her situation isn’t that bad.
I mean if you hate your job, then I don't see a reason not to move on. I've ended up changing jobs about every year and nearly tripled my salary while also finding a job I love now.
@@adiaz1182 for ppl who don’t care if others speak to them first thing in the morning...we can deal with it for the most part. Not a morning person at all. But if isolation and loneliness on a job or lack of actual support is throughout the day, everyday, does get to be frustrating and can be depressing. She needs to stay focused for getting the benefits at this point since she’s so close. Personally I’d make ppl talk to me by continually trying to engage with them during the day if I was her but then I’m older and don’t care that much. One or two decent ppl in a workplace who will speak is all you need.
@@AndreOliveira-cu3fy Sure! I started as an entry-level Software Developer and now I'm a Senior Machine Learning Engineer (a cross between Data Science and Software Engineering).
Wow..talk about entitlement...I worked in customer service in my twenties..had people call and tell they wished I would die 😂 ...poor kid she has no clue..
I work at a call center and have since I graduated high school, Im definitely looking for different work now and going to further my education mainly because I want to make more. But even getting yelled at over the phone although it sucks at the moment I realize I'd rather do this then hard laborious physical work. So even that isn't that bad lol. Id prefer to be in this girls spot where I sit at a desk and no one talks to me haha.
It's not what toxic is. But it's trendy for everyone to say that they have a toxic workplace. I think what's happening here is what happens to a lot of college students. They're used to a fun college experience and then they get in the real world and it's a news flash that suddenly the real world is not all fun and footloose. Work is work. You start to understand why your parents came home at the end of the day from work and we're tired and worn out. It's because work is work.
@@cincinnatislider yep. It was funny there was another call on this show a few weeks ago where this guy was saying that he was burned out and he was kind of young and recently graduated from college. As I recall Dave was even just pointing out the fact that he was just experiencing growing pains from developing work ethic LOL
Why tell anyone you are leaving? She sounds to have the maturity of a middle schooler; she sounds like she is almost crying because people don’t say good morning.
I actually taught English in a public school in South Korea, and my main coteacher told me the older teachers in their late 50s and above said I did not greet them enough. What????????
She just needs attention that’s what I got from her . She’s at WORK , she needs to work and graduate school and stop worrying about people not saying good morning to you.
If she stays till October and sticks it out she will feel so much better sticking it out than just quitting. I almost walked out on a retail job but stuck it out for a few months until I graduated and it helped motivate me to push through school and put myself in a position to never have to work a retail job again. Hope she sticks it out and gets that delayed gratification of sticking it out a few months longer.
I had some managers on power trips when I was in college and worked in bars and restaurants. That motivated me to finish school so I’d be above that level. I did not want to be pushed around by people who were not as smart as I was. I figured intelligent, educated bosses wouldn’t be on ego trips and need to abuse others to feel good about themselves.
Parents, please let your kids experience some hardship during their formative years. It will give them the internal grit to endure these relatively minuscule life challenges and actually accomplish something. Experience is a great teacher and source of perspective.
@@racpatrice well you stop being a helicopter parent. A kid gets bullied, don’t immediately call the teacher or principal (unless its life threatening). Have your kid stand up for themselves and have your kid try to resolve the problem before running away to get saved. That’s just one example.
@@sanitary103 I’ve tried that with my kids… But then the response is they will get in trouble for defending themselves. Public schools are so twisted now. Kids are actually taught not to defend themselves and to tell the teacher everything.
@@racpatrice I allow my children to play outside without me, and interact with other children and deal with their own conflicts. I also make them do a ton of chores, and take away any privileges if they are disrespectful and disobedient. My kids hear no all the time and they whine and complain, but oh well!
Umm how about you just ride it out until you finish school and find something else. Because that’s ridiculous that you’re leaving a job because they don’t support you...ummm it’s a JOB not your friends/family....
She's young and she has been taught that life/work is all about following her passion and feeling fulfilled. I hope she finds the passion and fulfillment she is looking for in her career, but I pray she can find joy in the journey.
Wow! What was she expecting? Co-workers aren't friends. There's nothing 'toxic' about what she is describing. Most jobs will not pay for your tuition. She sounds ungrateful.
Learn to see your paycheck and other benefits as the sign you are appreciated. No one at my job tells me I do a good job or that I am appreciated, but every two weeks, I feel appreciated and valued.
A boring office job that pays for school? I gladly would have done that while I was going for my degree! It's definitely a "job" so hopefully once she gets her degree she can find a great company to work for to start a career.
Oh man if she thinks that is toxic, I'd hate to see how she works in an actually toxic environment. Signed, Someone who was fired from his dream job after being yelled at for not being able to read his boss' mind.
I was going to say, I had a boss who I likened to an SS Gestapo official! Me and my co-workers joked about it too. But I’m sure a new hire would immediately see him as toxic personified!
So....Celeste, are YOU asking anyone how *they* are doing? Why this victim attitude? Take steps to improve the lives of others and improve your own, right away! If you need support, are YOU asking for it, or are you sitting there, and wishing they'd just read your mind and ask you? Girl, the squeaky wheel STILL gets the grease.
PREACH! I'm blessed to work in a great work environment that has a great culture but this "people don't say hi to me, we just work all day" is not toxic...
If she feels like she's being ignored, a smile towards people around her goes a LONG way. If she puts in a little effort to appear approachable, it will come back. This is an attitude change.
We have no idea how much she puts into it, Dave barely asked any real questions, every question he asked in his tone he implied that she is in the wrong. He didn’t really ask enough questions, he just assumed because she didn’t immediately define her situation as “toxic” as he would define it that she is whining. Maybe she is and needs to tough it out, maybe she just couldn’t put her feelings into words properly, but either way we definitely don’t have enough information to judge her. You have no idea how much effort she puts into it, because they never really asked or let her elaborate.
Yeah but she also said she wants her workplace to make her feel happy, I think if she felt happy as a person in general she wouldn't need affirmation at work or a friendly environment to complete her
Not only is my job not toxic, it's a joy to work there. My co-workers and my bosses are all wonderful people, and I'm happy to work with them. I've been there for nearly six years I got really lucky, I've had some terrible jobs, ha
If she is that stressed out imagine when she goes out in the real world. That degree won’t help her. She needs to fix herself before whining about others.
So many people would love her job where you could be ignored so you can do your work and then go home. 🤣 Plus they are paying her tuition. This sounds great!
This is the direct result of the BS kids are being taught. I.e. everyone is special, everyone gets a participation trophy, you can do whatever you want in life.... STOP IT
There's not a work environment that is not toxic my lady. Maybe you're just lazy. Learn to sacrifice first. You are paying the price for your education. Get it done with and move ahead.
I don’t think it’s lazy. I think colleges spoil people - they think a meaningful exciting feeling of bonding is going going to be laid out for them at work like in college, and the fact is a job is for making money. People have lives, they have things to do - most adults aren’t trying to be everyone’s best friends at work and make small talk every day. It’s unsustainable and people like this become confused as to why work is so dry compared to college and I think it induces an existential crisis during the transition to reality.
In the job where I am now people talk loudly,about EVERYTHING and ANYTHING if they shut up and get to work it is great. I have worked in jobs where people were hostile , angry, mean and unhappy
So let me get this straight... They're paying for your degree AND you don't have to deal with anyone else's BS drama all day? If they're literally funding your way to a better job... THEN IT'S NOT A DEAD END JOB. This is what the kids refer to as a "first world problem." It may be boring to work there, but you're just complaining about an amazing privilege right now.
Oh my! What a perpetual victim! She doesn’t want to work for her employer but she wants them to pay for her tuition. Change your situation (quit) or change your attitude. Focus on the payoff you’re getting by working there and getting through college. Don’t look for friends and entertainment at work. It’s not supposed to a party place. Go do your job and go home. I don’t think much will change for her after she finishes her Bachelors degree.
I wouldn't like to hear her squeak once she realizes a company will ask you to pay back all college funding if you don't stay with them the next two years 💸💸
Toxic workplaces I’ve been in: Owner sleeping with coworker Boss making me cry because I can’t control other people That’s toxic. Not because it’s boring.
Dave: I worked in a place when I was in my 20s that it seemed like everyone was sleeping with each other Ken: Oh Dave: It was like a.. Ken: Soap opera Dave: That’s the nice way to put it... It was just nuts 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This reminds me of Simon Sinek's "millennials in the workplace" even though she's probably Gen Y or even Z. As Gen Xer I just can't understand all this need for emotional support at work. It's a J-O-B and it pays the bills. Get over yourself, Sister.
Dear workers, If you have this same situation, just remind yourself you are not there to make any friends, just work, fulfill your duties and collect your paycheck. Making friend and being comfy can catch you off guard when they let you go. No, work shouldn't be stressful nor toxic, but you need to keep in mind you are their to accomplish your goal of making a living and fulfilling your calling (if that's your calling)
She had the courage to call in and ask the question, good on her. Delayed gratification is something my grandpa and mother and father preached to me growing up. It didn't really "stick" until my early 30's unfortunately but still grateful that they cared enough to share the wisdom. ☀️
Sometimes we have to put on our adult pants and just do what we have to do. Lots of stress in my job right now but darn it I’m paying off a house. Got to do what I have to do.
@@genxx2724 If she can do ANYTHING proactively, she needs to have a personal come to Jesus moment. She needs to humble herself step back look at all that she has and be grateful for it. Unfortunately, from observation of others, AND from personal experience, it is more likely she will continue to be ungrateful, have a bad attitude, and as such her choices will lead down a dark path. At some point the reality of LIFE will force her to a crossroads where she will be laid bare and have to choose bitterness and destruction or gratitude and prosperity.... Hint: When I was at that crossroads, I chose gratitude.... After choosing to continue living. I admit my wording above is a bit melodramatic. And it accurately describes my experience in '09-10. When I was homeless and so broke that I was living rent free above a friend's garage. I couldn't even pay my life insurance premiums, which was the ONLY reason I chose life. My kids would've been left with nothing. At that point I got my nose in the Bible, recommitted my life to Jesus, saw all the good things in my life. Along with the potential, and the long walk home started.
@@MT-yx5cu You can leave the military after a given time. No one conscripted you to join the military. You signed up for it. Now, you must deal with whatever inconveniences comes with it
This is what happens when a word like "toxic" gets used in media headlines for years on end. It loses all meaning. This lady's job isn't toxic, it's just a dead-end, boring job she doesn't like.
Celeste, I don’t necessarily think you should stick it out at this job. We didn’t hear enough details about your story to come to a conclusion. If there is something about the job that’s overwhelming you and causing you to be unable to complete your degree, it may be worth it to quit and focus on your education especially since you can afford it yourself. There are a lot of other aspects to your life that we didn’t hear about in the 60 seconds you had on the air. If you are burnt out in life, sometimes a short season of rest is all you need. God can show up in powerful ways when we’re waiting and watching.
Explain to Dave Ramsey what's toxic because he understands it very well.... he does a very good job in making questinable stuff within his company (the lawsuits speak for themselves)!!
As a therapist I would told just quit and do it. At the end of the day all people can really do is live a life worth living if she can’t get passed this now it going to eat up. Granted she also need to have more perseverance.
Some People use certain words like it is running out of style and they put their own version of definition for the word. She is almost crying when talking about her being neglected in a job....Wow.
Long, LONG before Nike ever came up with it, my mantra to get through unpleasant times and tasks on the job was, “It’s not immoral, it’s not illegal, there’s a paycheck on Friday: JUST DO IT.”
I really think people should work front line customer service as one of your first jobs, preferably in a restaurant or somewhere you get exposure to some real personalities from all walks of life,,,, then that sleepy office would feel like a blessing.
Sounds like she is just ready to move on, and is tired of her job. That's not toxic. That's just being human. I've been there, it's not a toxic workplace.
It sucks! Focus on your goal and every time you see these toxic coworkers (adult bullies) you think of how you’re going to get your degree and bounce out of there. Hang on hun! Going through similar but I keep myself motivated and focused on my goal. Work harder as well so when you leave they notice the difference. I have a countdown in front of my vanity and that motivates me 🤌🏽
I like the idea of working extra hard so they notice when you’re not there anymore. Do a good job and get a letter of recommendation in your hot little hands before leaving.
@@yesseniaescobarable Thank you. The letter is important because when a potential employer calls for a reference, for legal reasons all they’re going to say is that you worked there and provide the dates. That doesn’t help you. And if you leave without the letter, good luck trying to get them to write it later.
I think there are some people that just need this talk, me included. I'm in a similar situation with a job that sucks. There have been toxic moments where management has addressed issues inappropriately, but overall its just a dead end job that sucks. Im sticking it out until I find something better. When I do, I'll be moving on.
