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The investigation into the killing of two Kansas moms in Oklahoma remains ongoing, with lingering questions about the role of a fifth suspect, Paul Grice, who was not arrested along with the others. NewsNation national correspondent Brian Entin has learned that Grice was taken into custody and questioned by authorities but he was then released.
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@MoodSwing916 28 дней назад

He is not a good person if he was present for the planning and then said nothing knowing what happened to Butler and Kelley. He could claim he thought they were full of shit before but once it was announced they were missing he knew what happened and who did it.

@deborahclarke1751 27 дней назад

I hope this 16 year old is be protected. If anything happens to her , her blood is on everyone’s hands.

@wendyodell356 27 дней назад

Paul Grice could still see charges if he knew about this and didn't say anything 🤔

@wendymontgomery2903 27 дней назад

I concur. However, I'm not too sure about what OK law says about "guilty knowledge" and/or duty to, (or failure to) report possible crimes in progress. It will be interesting & informative to find out...IF we ever do, that is. 🤓 obviously it would have been the "right thing" to do. But our laws can be tricky re matters like these. IE: mandated reporters, etc.

@brendasmart553 27 дней назад

Is he under temporary protective custody asva witness who already confessed enough for a deal?????

@mightymouse1005 26 дней назад

Tiffany bought FIVE stun guns and 5 burner phones. He would have been the 5th

@brendasmart553 26 дней назад

@@mightymouse1005 only 3 burners not 5. The two couples only needed one phone each, so yeah the third was for_____???

@brendasmart553 26 дней назад

@@mightymouse1005 and one stun gun wasfound at burial site!!

@shuggabizkit3269 28 дней назад

Your guy Brian here is one heckuva reporter.

@BrandonCiCi 27 дней назад

Agree, an amazing reporter!

@KnaxetMia 27 дней назад

Yes! he's really good! He was even out in the dark showing all of us viewers what it looks like at the location where the women were found! He is interesting to listen to!

@maryrine-marybel7118 27 дней назад

Pure evil and sick

@Joan-ds5hb 28 дней назад

So if these people had all this money why not use it to get full custody of the kids instead of murdering these Ladies. Something more to this story.

@kepigal 28 дней назад

@@bambooprincess3495 Those ranchers and farmers can be quite wealthy

@MoodSwing916 28 дней назад

@@bambooprincess3495 You can't be serious?

@bookbag6432 28 дней назад

Custody usually always goes to the mother, regardless how much money you have.

@yepimonyoutube 28 дней назад

Grandmother never had custody. And money doesn't buy custody. Veronica was following to order and was likely to get at the very least more visitation. With previous sa allegations from the Adams it's clear what happened here.

@Elena-fe3os 27 дней назад

The mother had a stable job for a while, as nurse, and a house. The grandmother accused abuse of the children , from a relative, while in mother's care, in the past. The father had custody , had trouble with the law and was released from jail 7 days prior to the disappearance , with mandatory rehab. He would have lost the custody battle. I doubt that he knew nothing of his mother's plans to kill the mother of the children. There were prior attempts. The children are with the maternal grandpa. Sad story. All the money do not buy common sense and education..her own son ended up a loser and she is Republican representative for the county part of a cult..dear God. Should have supported the mother,or her son, years ago, as the couple was very young when got the kids....

@pattyhurless3147 27 дней назад

Just because you are a hard worker and nice guy doesn’t mean you are not involved.

@turtlrunr 25 дней назад

EXACTLY!!

@jonoharper4729 28 дней назад

.....or maybe they're all "good ol boys" and cover for each other.

@Steven_Grey 27 дней назад

"Did you know Paul Grice?" "I know of him" *Goes on to describe him in detail for a minute and a half* Totally not suspicious

@turtlrunr 25 дней назад

Good ole boys...The entire community probably knows-- most likely....

@kelliedaeges4449 28 дней назад

I can't believe this awful tragedy and suspicious situation. God bless 🙌 the 2 lost and most importantly the children 🙏 🙌. Prayers

@Steven_Grey 27 дней назад

"Did you know Paul Grice?" "I know of him" *Goes on to describe him in detail for a minute and a half* Totally not suspicious

@MagnoliaInvestigates 27 дней назад

Lol 😂 yeah he knows him well & my impression is he was intentionally painting him in a good light & feigning ignorance.

@Magnum_Wolf 4 дня назад

I knew Paul when we were younger, but he's not the same guy I know now. I'm disgusted by what he's done

@jajanesaddictions 28 дней назад

Adams already admitted to killing the women.

@MoodSwing916 28 дней назад

And she also bought five stun guns. She wasn't the only person involved in killing them.

@Elena-fe3os 27 дней назад

@@MoodSwing916 more were involved, since the chaperone lady had a pistol

@pattyhurless3147 27 дней назад

With help of other three.

@nataliemesbah1639 27 дней назад

Interviewing guy in orange hat: 🎤Did you know Paul Grice? Guy in orange hat: Yeah, and…(everything this man has ever done, accomplished, ate, drank, test scores, history on his momma, daddy, fifth grade teacher, etiquette habits, hygiene habits…)

@Oceangirl_505 27 дней назад

"I know of him" - that says a lot.

@TeaandTacos77 27 дней назад

Something is so off in this case. I really hope they change the venue for trials. These people seem thick as thieves, willing to stick by neighbors who participated in a crime so brutal and horrible it made national news. It is really creepy, like something you'd see in a horror movie. Some major brainwashing and/or fear of retribution is going on in this area.

@1373abby 27 дней назад

We're thankful this is taking place in Texas county. I feel if this crime had happened in Cimarron County, where TA has been reported to have influence, this would have been a completely different story. The Texas County Sheriff's Dept. along with OSBI and the FBI are doing phenomenal in bringing these people to justice. We grieve for Veronica and Jillian's family. The entire community is grieving.

@kcstafford2784 28 дней назад

That rancher sure made himself look a fool...I'm not here to judge...good men don't go in on killing people what an idiot....

@chrishales3280 27 дней назад

I would believe him before a education person and don’t confuse his simple explanation as idiotic he more likely to a honest opinion

@davida1977 27 дней назад

are you referring to his comments on Paul Grice? Since LE took him into custody and released him it means he is not a suspect

@kcstafford2784 27 дней назад

@@davida1977 no but the things that dude said....

@justicedenyd 27 дней назад

@@davida1977 No it doesn't. It just means law enforcement decided not to arrest him at that time. He could still be charged if he had knowledge or participated in these murders in any way. Also very possible he decided to turn states evidence and testify against the others in exchange for immunity against prosecution.

@davida1977 27 дней назад

@@justicedenyd Thanks, understood. It just seemed odd if he was involved at all why they would let him go and he could possibly run. But makes sense in your potential scenario.

@phantumbelly1319 27 дней назад

“Noce men” aren’t involved in murders of two women leaving lots of children damaged and motherless

@BrandonCiCi 27 дней назад

Where are the kids now and how come there’s been no update on them?? Or did I miss that?

@jenniferlatham6935 27 дней назад

OSBI has repeatedly said the children are safe. Idk that it would be safe for the kids to publish their exact location....

@BrandonCiCi 26 дней назад

@@jenniferlatham6935 I haven’t heard them say that so that’s why I ask. Lol and I’m not looking for exact location, just wanted to make sure they were safe and not near a murdering grandma.

@clintondarnell5318 27 дней назад

He may of got of immunity if he wasn’t involved directly to the murders. To be a witness. Who knows

@maryrine-marybel7118 27 дней назад

To think these people helped her sick evil

@MagnoliaInvestigates 28 дней назад

Great segment!

@shawnadeyo 27 дней назад

Maybe they were planning on framing Paul...so the daughter thought he was involved due to them talking about him. I haven't read the affidavit but with them strange "misfits" it seems like they would have planned an "alibi" and also planned for all this to look like someone else did it. There is probably alot behind the scenes that we don't know about yet..

@hollystephens1388 27 дней назад

Any body can put on an act to be nice! He is the devil in disguise

@Andrew-qq8fb 24 дня назад

Sounds like this neighbor is more involved than we think. He seems to know a whole lot for a guy who didn't know anything about the crimes.

@marcialeavitt6238 27 дней назад

It is so sad that attorneys can even be hired to get people off of murder charges!

@DeeLite220 27 дней назад

I don’t think anyone here is getting out of these charges. There’s so much evidence already. All a good attorney will be able to do is get the death penalty off the table.

@gangstaboo888 27 дней назад

Why dont they have gang charges thats 5 people committing a crime thats a charge all in it self

@Bardmusic66 27 дней назад

Custody beef, not gang related.

@stout8807 28 дней назад

If he’s innocent then he has nothing to worry about, anything we say is just speculation

@TurkeyCreekGal 28 дней назад

Actually the 16 year old said he was there and Granny said he helped!

@joneal8360 28 дней назад

@@TurkeyCreekGalyou don't know what granny has said. You lie.

@MoodSwing916 28 дней назад

@@joneal8360 The reports have been released. How do you think we know about the 16 year old.

@yepimonyoutube 28 дней назад

@@TurkeyCreekGalgrandma didn't say that Cora stated this to the child. It's written in the affidavit.

@rondalee7704 27 дней назад

Being innocent doesn’t mean anything when you’re charged with a crime. But I’m believing the girl.

@bookbag6432 28 дней назад

These country people say everybody is a nice person and they never saw this coming. But weren't they just scared last week saying they may be threatened ect.? Cut the crap!

@Magnum_Wolf 4 дня назад

Paul was a nice guy when we were younger, and none of us saw it coming. Also, none of us have his back, we're disgusted by his actions. I'm very sorry for everyone's losses.

@JK-lp6uw 27 дней назад

Did the teenager hear all 5 talking together? Tiffany admitted she did do it when they took her in. That's a fact.

@ReneeNme 27 дней назад

There are two other individuals named in the affidavit besides Paul Grice. Barret and Lacy Cook.

@theco-conspiriters 27 дней назад

Love when you both are together..

@lynnhaldaman5410 27 дней назад

Cole Twombly Brother Running For Sheriff! That May Be Interesting If True!

@lindarose5308 27 дней назад

Brian good reporting!

@coryvallad7578 27 дней назад

I bet that whole town is like that lol

@archangel807 27 дней назад

Tifany is the elected Chairman of the Cimarron County GOP.......very famous and now in jail...

@GetCraftyLemons 27 дней назад

Not surprising at all!!! Many hide behind religion or political agenda!!

@user-ox8ud9ys9m 27 дней назад

Grownups of the corn

@turtlrunr 25 дней назад

😅😅

@teach672 27 дней назад

Where are they getting their money?

@marivanzijl5465 27 дней назад

Hi everyone ❤1 Question: Where is the 16yog ?! And the babies of Veronica?!

@maryrine-marybel7118 27 дней назад

Good person on outside evil inside

@griminator-patty3901 27 дней назад

Of course he won’t say anything negative since Grice is loose.

@stevevernon5038 25 дней назад

The judge thought highly of one of the suspects too

@turtlrunr 25 дней назад

Yes, Judge very biased on the video ,IMHO

@heytam7162 28 дней назад

Witness against the others ?

@MoodSwing916 28 дней назад

The report claimed Adams bought five stun guns.

@bettyburk 27 дней назад

Has anybody looked into the brother of the victim who was accused of molesting the kids. If granny believed this to be true she was protecting those kids from being harmed again. At least in her mind she might have believed she had to do something.

@lauriemcdonough9093 27 дней назад

They all say they're all nice.

@SilverWinterTarot 27 дней назад

Let’s keep that teen safe from this Paul guy because who knows if he will retaliate or anyone else. I hope she’s ok.

@tonyyarbray 27 дней назад

probably that judge

@staciecarmon1618 27 дней назад

Stone face Granny wanted custody of the children but knew her son was a junkie and would have never gotten custody!

@DarrenSloan 26 дней назад

Why did grandma have custody then if her. Son was a druggie

@mollyjones4165 27 дней назад

Paul Grice could have been somewhere else with an alibi. Question is, did he know and not tell?

@tallie338 27 дней назад

My My theses are the last days. Indeed. The Most High God knows all the truth. And He alone will bring judgement now and later. Be not deceived.

@carenwebb9044 22 дня назад

He's been arrested now

@shawnadeyo 27 дней назад

They thought they couldn't be touched because they have money.

@lilithstribe 22 дня назад

He was just arrested 4-24-24

@Ketowski 27 дней назад

We don’t know, so any conclusions are speculation. It’s helpful to have more information, but we don’t know what it means at this point.

@Democracy982 28 дней назад

Sovereign nation

@creameedwards9518 27 дней назад

Meth is a heck of a drug

@user-rx3cl2qf2d 27 дней назад

Were they using methaphimne?

@MsHydration 27 дней назад

Killers are not good guys...

@windhamlanes6135 27 дней назад

I think this was the first guy to roll. The CW listed him in the crimes and her testimony was the basis of the arrest warrant

@maryrine-marybel7118 27 дней назад

If they helped and knew not good person. He deceived people

@cindycliburn716 28 дней назад

We know now that you don't have to be smart to get rich .....

@MoodSwing916 28 дней назад

You should have always known that.

@markgordon8146 28 дней назад

My grandpa said " if you so dam smart..why aint you rich?"......tulsa..via Arkansas..

@lisakayruetz7354 28 дней назад

Um, they all paid an indigent fee and got court appointed attorneys. You guys are behind.

@MsMollah 27 дней назад

If, in fact, they have money, land and resources, how can they be accepted as indigent?

@1373abby 27 дней назад

I believe I saw that until their private attorneys are secured, the process is to give them court-appointed council. This, from what I read, is standard protocol.

@MsMollah 27 дней назад

@@1373abby I see. That makes sense, thanks.

@navajosmiles6663 27 дней назад

This whole case is so sad 😭 I feel for the families of the Beautiful mothers.🙏🏻

@ralphmajor1947 27 дней назад

They will lose everything!

@lorifeeney934 27 дней назад

When I heard Granny ordered 5 stun guns I knew there had to have been a potential 5th person involved. Interesting.

@captainchaos52 27 дней назад

Just b/c u own thousands of acres of land dont mean it's disposable income & ur bank acct is loaded..smh..

@kimemerson4608 27 дней назад

Tiffany has a attorney. She using the one she got for her son

@Democracy982 28 дней назад

Hope you have security

@billsmith380 27 дней назад

This is bubbaville in that part of the country.

@suzanne3639 27 дней назад

They have reporter’s picture on channel on blurb- thought he was Paul Grice. Y’all need to change that for reporter’s sake.

@jojozep7820 27 дней назад

Maybe…just maybe he’s the one who reported ALL the deets and receipts, heard all the crazy, sat and listened then called it in?

@shelix222 27 дней назад

I think there's a UFO parked behind Brian in the night reporting shots 👽😅

@melissalee4933 28 дней назад

He struck a deal and gave them all the info…

@lisakayruetz7354 28 дней назад

Nope. Doesn't work like that.

@Yogihellkat 26 дней назад

What about that teenager I mean c’mon if she knew everything.

@TurkeyCreekGal 28 дней назад

Im sure Tad having money is why Granny was with him and of course he was easy for her to manipulate and brainwash! No idea why he was with her?

@sweetnsalty4728 28 дней назад

If he has all this money, why was he renting the house he was living in?

@lisakayruetz7354 28 дней назад

@@sweetnsalty4728she has the money.

@deborahvandenheuvel1904 27 дней назад

They are 2 of a kind !😡

@huntlife 27 дней назад

Sadly, grandparents have no rights in these cases and see abuse to their grandkids. And nothing done about it.

@jenniferlatham6935 27 дней назад

Nothing done - the mother, Veronica, was currently on supervised visitation - so obviously something was being done and her visits were monitored.

@supriseimblack 28 дней назад

Wait why are we putting Paul on blast??

@lisakayruetz7354 28 дней назад

Clicks and views. I mean, it's Banfield 😅

@susanohnhaus611 27 дней назад

Paul Grice may turn out to be the Michael Fortier of this case.

@debyjohnson 27 дней назад

ALL these “Good” people in the Panhandle… Woof!

@rindawolgamott2200 27 дней назад

You still have the wrong names under the mug shot

@kimemerson4608 27 дней назад

The 16 year running mouth has no idea. Le isn't going on everything she says. She was involved

@glenagarrett4704 27 дней назад

My guess is Grice immediately flipped on the others.

@kimemerson4608 27 дней назад

Geandma may walk. Lol

@ExpeditionNomadicAdventures 28 дней назад

Sadly, it is not known why the murders took place. Why were two women murdered?

@Krystal_Kleer 28 дней назад

The murders took place because Tiffany wanted the kids.

@lisakayruetz7354 28 дней назад

Custody

@Krystal_Kleer 28 дней назад

It's totally known. Tiffany wanted custody.

@marknewton6984 27 дней назад

Ego. Desolation...😮

@wendymontgomery2903 27 дней назад

Umm where have u been the last 3 weeks. It was known fr almost the beginning this was over child custody 😢

@sandramoore2457 27 дней назад

@kcstafford2784 28 дней назад

New to watching news nation...not very impressed thus far...

@lisakayruetz7354 28 дней назад

You have good instincts.

@TrollAlert-xv6qg 27 дней назад

@@lisakayruetz7354Chris chomo and Don Abrahams nuff said

@bluewolfvii 27 дней назад

Four or five days behind YT reporters and FB groups... but that's where AB gets her leads!

@supriseimblack 28 дней назад

Leave Paul alone

@MoodSwing916 28 дней назад

No.

@TrollAlert-xv6qg 27 дней назад

@@MoodSwing916yes

@wendymontgomery2903 27 дней назад

C'mon ppl 😮 what are we ...5 year olds 😅 Yes! No! I said yes! No infinity! Jeeze Louise Grow up folks

@Democracy982 28 дней назад

Gods misfits

@fredgrebner526 27 дней назад

News Nation is a joke

@lilithstribe 22 дня назад

He was just arrested 4-24-24