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N64 Prices Are Falling FASTER Than Other Systems (Why is That?) 

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Prices for the Nintendo 64 are falling in 2022, more so than other games on other consoles. I decided to investigate and figure out why. By looking over many layers of data, I have found the answer.
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@GamingTheSystems1
@GamingTheSystems1 Год назад
Note, only four game systems have averages going down in 2022 (N64, Virtual Boy, GBC, Vectrex) with the N64 going down the fastest. This video is an investigation as to why the N64 is leading in this way.
@lessimcdowell9897
@lessimcdowell9897 Год назад
This is interesting, I think n64 may fall into the same category of systems to collect for as atari 2600. 35 years after the popularity of these systems saw the most focus and then almost all interest is lost. This is because the generation that is nostalgic for these systems aren’t going to collect for it forever. They are going to stop collecting at a certain point. Nes and PlayStation do not fall into this category at all.
@Snivy102
@Snivy102 Год назад
The first round of people getting out "collecting" after the pandemic are going to be the most casual of collectors. The N64 by far draws the most casual type of collectors/gamers. I call it the "bro" console. So many people remember playing Goldeneye, Mario Kart, and Smash bros in college dorms and whatnot back in the day.
@jermainepalk1832
@jermainepalk1832 Год назад
True
@MrSerpico145
@MrSerpico145 Год назад
@@awesomehigames yea, those systems trashed the N64 back in the 90s...
@cheebagardens1759
@cheebagardens1759 Год назад
N64 online is likely the main cause. Another could be that after the NES mini and SNES mini, people were hoping for a N64 mini that never came. Those that wanted it had to go physical or buy a Chinese emulation box. These boxes also made a resurgence in the last few years and emulation for that generation has improved greatly.
@hueso5071
@hueso5071 Год назад
Also the everdrive. You can just emulate them and play them on your 64 console.
@politicalchannel66
@politicalchannel66 Год назад
@@awesomehigames Main stream won't do that
@Tht1guy63
@Tht1guy63 Год назад
i wouldnt say n64 online is a major cause imo. we would see the same with nes, snes, genesis and now GB and GBA. Many n64 fans find the n64 online ports god awful and controls are terrible. if you want as NSO n64 controller its cheaper just to get a real n64 console. not to mention there isnt alot of n64 games available yet.
@Tht1guy63
@Tht1guy63 Год назад
@@hueso5071 everdrive has been around for years before the pandemic though. but with price increases of games it and its clones are ever popular not to mention the original everdrive is supporting a Ukraine based company.
@skins4thewin
@skins4thewin Год назад
That is the case for all old cartridge based systems though. That still doesn't explain why N64 in particular is dropping like this while the SNES is not.
@metroidfan220
@metroidfan220 Год назад
I think it's a combination of a few things. 1. Elevated pricing during the pandemic made it a good time for some collectors to sell, increasing supply in circulation. 2. Physical games went up in price while ROM Carts remained similar in price, even if temporarily unavailable. Made the transition easier to justify for many, decreasing demand for physical cartridges. The N64 is the newest console that doesn't have an optical drive, so there's no modding required to use one. 3. N64 on Nintendo Switch Online announced/debuted, which further reduced demand.
@doomedtoobscurity3965
@doomedtoobscurity3965 Год назад
4. Emulation makes all the games free
@metroidfan220
@metroidfan220 Год назад
@@doomedtoobscurity3965 Yes, but that was true before this change.
@Nin10Guy
@Nin10Guy 11 месяцев назад
It could also be that modern TV's are not so kind to the N64. Most HDTV's now are phasing out AV inputs and opting for HDMI only which the N64 doesn't support nativity. Even if you do hook up a N64 to a HDTV, you'll find that the console's antialiasing filter looks far worse and blurrier on a HDTV versus using an old CRT TV (which most people don't have anymore).
@LorianandLothric
@LorianandLothric 4 месяца назад
Good to see someone understand economics and supply and demand
@TheMultiGunMan
@TheMultiGunMan Год назад
Sounds like a good time to start collecting for the N64.
@kenosabi
@kenosabi Год назад
No market ever escapes the correction forever. This has been a long time coming. We're in a global recession and people aren't buying like they may have a few years ago. The "retro craze" i.e the people that got into it in the last few years purely for the money when it took off are now trying to cash out which is a great thing.
@XSlimSxadyX
@XSlimSxadyX Год назад
Even the rarest 3ds games (minus YKW3) are going down in price
@kianif
@kianif Год назад
The Chinese are releasing more and more knockoffs for the popular titles and, unfortunately, Pricecharting can't differentiate the knockoffs from the real copies, so the average selling prices of the popular titles will continue to decrease and come down somewhere closer to the knockoff prices... Pricecharting is only good for getting a rough estimate!
@SuperNicktendo
@SuperNicktendo Год назад
I think it's mostly because the library is so small. People get complete sets then they move on. N64 is the go to complete set. 20-30 games are bangers out of the whole library so interest burns out faster than say PlayStation or Saturn
@joyasmusicales603
@joyasmusicales603 Год назад
Fewer than that number!
@nonyabiz9340
@nonyabiz9340 Год назад
Sega CD had even fewer
@mario4everd
@mario4everd 11 месяцев назад
ehhh I think it's much larger actually but usually ppl's interests only cover a small amount of games because not everyone likes every type of genre. It's like when I showed my niece some of the ps2's best games off the system and she was disinterested in most of it XD@@joyasmusicales603
@fbafroguy6200
@fbafroguy6200 Год назад
There are multiple reasons why n64 titles are going down in price but the main one has to be the lack of ‘great’ games coupled with most of the games people has nostalgia for on the n64 going to nso (even goldeneye is moving to nso, probably the n64 game with the most nostalgia behind it to the average person who grew up with the n64). I expect prices to go down to pre pandemic prices or close to that.
@nharde466
@nharde466 Год назад
I'm more curious about why Sega 32X and CD are still going UP and by a LOT. I noticed the other day how expensive it was for a model 2 with just the 32X at a local shop and was confused. The hardware side is getting dumb for some things. Is there some kind of demand I'm missing? I've had a model 2 myself forever and always wanted to pick up the add-ons but never did for whatever reason and now due to prices, may never get a decently priced chance to do so.
@Valstrax420
@Valstrax420 Год назад
Because idiots nowadays think anything old = gold.
@nonyabiz9340
@nonyabiz9340 Год назад
I'm wondering about that too, especially since you can burn Sega CD games
@Merkantoine
@Merkantoine Год назад
Systems that didn't do that well are always more expensive, less people owned it making it rarer than a very successful console like for example the PS2 and the GameCube.
@HatedJared
@HatedJared Год назад
As someone with a pretty decent N64 collection, I did enjoy seeing the value inflate for a few years, but I'm glad to see it coming back down. Maybe I'll go for a complete set again.
@punchfrancescka3980
@punchfrancescka3980 Год назад
As someone who recently obtained a N64, was stoked to see this video! I think it was odd that I could find OoT for $20 locally, but I never questioned it. I figured the guy just wanted some money for a game he once loved, while just seeing it go to someone who valued it. Usually it’s the titles themselves that push demand. Especially when you see those Madden N64 game going for like $1, same can be said for Majora’s Mask selling for ~$60. The N64 Nintendo Online has to be a contributing factor also. There’s probably people who have off-loaded their physical media in favor of digital. I can’t not imagine that crowd at least exists, which may be pushing this surge in price-fall for that particular system even further. Nevertheless the N64 always seemed like the most favorable console by a lot of people, so maybe it’s the console whose games are most affected by market shifts(?). Love your videos mate, always informative and fun.
@Salamander407
@Salamander407 Год назад
Been back into the PS3 library recently, and man are there a ton of great games to be gotten on the cheap line moto storm, uncharted series, vanquished and fear series and Dante's inferno. So many games so cheap I'm building a great collection quickly.
@irritated_name
@irritated_name Год назад
Here's to hoping I can eventually buy a genuine copy of Conker's Bad Fur Day or Goemon's Great Adventurefor less than $100 (CDN)
@noemedmedia
@noemedmedia Год назад
I love that when asked, you recommend people to just EMULATE and play - that's what I've ended up doing. So many bad actors in the retro game space - I just want no part of it.
@fortheloveofgodlaugh2981
@fortheloveofgodlaugh2981 Год назад
It's all about the nostalgia cycles. In the late 2000s and early 2010s, the 3rd and 4th generation were all the rage. As time goes forward, that range for nostalgia also shifts. It's why Gamecube and PS2 games are generally the most expensive as of now, the people who grew up with Gamecube and PS2, born in 1997-2003 ish, are all now adults with enough income to spend on stuff like this.
@doc_sav
@doc_sav Год назад
I really think it is the controllers. They are straight up painful to use, and the sticks go bad QUICK. Add to that a lot of growing pains with camera angles create a reality check type of situation. Despite very fond memories classic games like Goldeneye are pretty painful to play today.
@doc_sav
@doc_sav Год назад
@@tlst94 tl;dr - Experiences would have been better with a more modern controller, but if we assume the games themselves didn't change, control difficulties that seem glaring in the modern view would still curb collector nostalgia in ways that older and newer retro systems don't. That is a bit of a tricky question because developers would have been building the games to suit the controllers, and I presume that having a dual stick controller would have led to different lines of though in the development stages that could have fundamentally changed the way games controlled and played. But that is too wide of a net, so let's say they thought the games were going to use the original N64 controller but it was switched to a Wii classic controller at the last second. To me the biggest problem with the N64 controller are the sticks that started to destroy themselves internally as soon as they were used, leaving you with a floppy, drifting, slow responding apparatus within weeks. Second would be having the controller designed for 3 different grip variations. The ergonomics of holding the controller, setting aside the stick issue, were actually really good. However, most games went with the center and right prong grip scheme, meaning that some buttons are always hard to reach, and kind of proved out that while having a controller with a bunch of different ways to use it is a cool idea, in practice what you really want is a sort of common basis for everything. Finally, single stick turned out not to be the way to go. The C buttons usually served as a stand in, either controlling other axes of 3d movement or being used to try to bully the camera into a good spot. From the times I've used it, the Wii Classic sticks solve the stick quality problem, as do most modern controllers. We still battle drift over time, but it is far less of an issue. There is only one way to hold it, and all of the buttons are at your command. It does have 2 sticks, but since our developers did not know this at the time, they don't really factor as much as the other improvements. My beloved "Z" trigger from the middle prong of the N64 is of course gone, but that seems a reasonable trade. So in the end a controller like the Wii classic definitely helps in some important ways. The big thing that they don't cure is the fact that N64 games were designed in an era when everyone was making their 3d control and camera engines from scratch with limited experience, code libraries, and reference to draw from. While that was tolerable at the time, from a modern perspective even the most well regarded setups still verge on torturous, no matter what controller you are using. Classic N64 games like Goldeneye, Star Fox, and Shadows of the Empire don't hold up to just pop in and play like NES and SNES Mario, Metroid, and Zelda games, and I think that boils down to the fact that those older games control in such a way that you rarely think about the controls at all, while they are a constant struggle with above mentioned N64 games. I don't think that is a misstep or anything, it is just a more awkward phase of playability which will inherently cause your nostalgia to crash into a brick wall, and hence reduce the desire to collect, good controller or not.
@shivasthong4924
@shivasthong4924 Год назад
I got a N64 flashcart back in 2016! No regrets.
@nonyabiz9340
@nonyabiz9340 Год назад
Ditto
@Harlan6493
@Harlan6493 Год назад
Great video! I work in ops management so data analysis is a huge part of my day. Cool to see it applied to my biggest hobby as well.
@MasterRoshi8974
@MasterRoshi8974 Год назад
"Keep falling please" The common gamer folk
@datamanmachine
@datamanmachine Год назад
I buy and Sell Videogames since '99. It was never this hard to sell a (Good) Game. You can feel ,here in Europe, the People save there Money for the Energy Crisis. On the other Hand is that the Prices are going nuts since couple of Years. I mean i Remember in the early 2000s something like Megaman X3 PAL SNES CIB (wich is mutch more rare than the US one) goin for 60-80€. (Nearly Release Price) That was nuts for an "Old" Game. Look now what a CIB copy is worth. Same with many other Games.
@testosteroneinc.3800
@testosteroneinc.3800 Год назад
This is why I emulate! My virtual games (100,000+) are still worth nothing. 😝
@kennethau7307
@kennethau7307 Год назад
I'm not really seeing games really going down. A few years ago, $5 games nobody really wanted are now like almost $15 and some are even higher. I hope N64 games come down, add to my collection. Graphics wise, N64 still rules compared to NES or SNES, smaller library, have chance to own every game. If anything think prices will keep driving higher.
@aacob2
@aacob2 Год назад
I don't think this has been talked about but I can imagine that the prevalence of repro carts atm would have helped to drive prices down. I don't see the price charting api being able to differentiate between real and repro.
@politicalchannel66
@politicalchannel66 Год назад
The last 12 months n64 games have came to switch for the main stream not collectors and people aren't collecting as much as during covid
@klausschwab11
@klausschwab11 Год назад
I guess I did good then. I have been collecting retro games for about 15 years but stopped collecting for the most part about a year before the pandemic. About a year ago I decided to sell off some of my collection that I felt I didn't want anymore. I sold off my entire N64 collection for good money and my Sega Genesis collection as well randomly and a few of my Nintendo and Super Nintendo games. I don't regret it because honestly N64 aged very poorly for me and the games I sold from my other consoles were just games I would never play again really and were not fun. I was surprised how much everything got in price. It was a good time to cash out.
@datamanmachine
@datamanmachine Год назад
I think maybe the reason why the N64 is mostly Hit buy the price decrease is a tthat ,like you said, many people bought there Childhood memory, but the N64 Graphics look very dated to them. (Not to mee :)) Especialy on a LCD screen, unless you have a Ultra Hdmi N64 or something improve the look of the Games.
@joury900
@joury900 Год назад
Good, gives people a chance to buy 'em for more normal prices.
@charlieretro
@charlieretro Год назад
Not all are going down I noticed that Super Smash Bros has been going up, it was at 64 bucks a few months ago and now it’s gone up 78 bucks.
@Merkantoine
@Merkantoine Год назад
From what I've seen in local shops and from local listings it also looks like that every "mint" or games in "perfect" conditions are less and less common in circulation so people are resorting to selling their scuffed copies with bad or repro labels on them asking less and less Also consider that the N64 isn't *that* old either, so most people who owned one back in the day still have it in perfect condition more than likely with all their games working fine and the vast majority of people only want that, working console and working games, not perfect copies. Not to mention repro cartridges, some people simply don't mind having a repro and paying much much less.
@gargoyled_drake
@gargoyled_drake Год назад
good points all of them, but i think the market have also been overflooded with bootlegs that are hard to spot as a bootleg on sight. So we pretty much with the mix of it all went from actually playing old n64 classics like goldeneye or paper mario was a niche thing that needed some investment both in money and in time to find a copy at a reasonable price, to being very easy especially for some games being on the switch it self. as someone else mentioned here, a lot of "casual" collecters are in the n64 market as well and i doubt many of them will see the difference of a bootleg and an official copy, and that would definitely bring down the prices. I am not certain of this, but if i'm right, the only thing that needs to be done to stop the deflation would be to put light on bootlegs being a thing and make people aware that they are paying for fake stuff when collecting and that way originals might increase a little in price again, being important as official originals.
@Zordiak
@Zordiak Год назад
Hey man don't apologize for your content. We're all nerds here.
@retro_escape2969
@retro_escape2969 Год назад
Great analysis! Maybe it’s time to finally complete my N64 collection 😃
@derekbrown356
@derekbrown356 Год назад
Very nice! I agree with you on this. I sold a whole bunch of Nintendo 64 games during the pandemic, they would sell very soon after listing them. Keep up the good content!
@skins4thewin
@skins4thewin Год назад
I've been liking your channel quite a bit lately! I love content creators that cover the nerdier side of retro gaming in particular.
@bl1gh7y
@bl1gh7y Год назад
Too many people dumping their hoards moving towards emulation and then there are flash carts.
@DerkuiDerkui
@DerkuiDerkui Год назад
Nicely researched. Like seriously, not many people in the professional setting can analyze and compile data as good as you did here in this video.
@GamingTheSystems1
@GamingTheSystems1 Год назад
Thanks. I'm posting another price-related video on 3/24.
@Ulquiorra105
@Ulquiorra105 Год назад
The more Excel spreadsheets the better.
@Dante19883
@Dante19883 Год назад
Interesting video! I bought a whole bunch of N64 games towards the end of summer 2022 and I have to say I got some pretty good deals. So I’m glad to know that I did not significantly overpay. The only two games that I think I paid a lot for our paper Mario and Conker, but now that I have them, I am never getting rid of them. I really don’t care how much they’re worth.
@TEXTMANNEN
@TEXTMANNEN Год назад
For me... Very few games from the N64 are on my list of the 100 best games from Nintendo. That might have something to do with it.
@TEXTMANNEN
@TEXTMANNEN Год назад
@@DrRespectful Mario Kart 64, Diddy Kong Racing, Super Mario 64, GoldenEye 007, Star Fox 64 and The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time... Is ok... and the controller is revolutionary... but I wasn't a fan of it.
@joyasmusicales603
@joyasmusicales603 Год назад
@@TEXTMANNEN few!
@fmdof
@fmdof Год назад
fingers crossed the CIB Genesis games plummet too.
@thepotatozombie9402
@thepotatozombie9402 Год назад
N64 Prices Are Falling FASTER Than Other Systems (Why is That?) You answered that question perfectly with one statement in the video "the games don't hold up as well as they did when they were a kid". They spent years talking about how the N64 was the best thing ever, went out and spent several hundred dollars to relive those experiences, played extremely poorly aged games on disastrously designed controllers with ugly and blurry graphics (which are even worse on modern TVs) and then came to the horrible realization of "Oh no! All those people who told me that the N64 sucked were right, and I just wasted a s***load of money!", then sold it all off at a loss. It's unfortunate, they could have gone with nearly every other system in existence and would have had a much better experience. So many folks finally taking off the nostalgia glasses is why the prices are dropping so fast. Nintendo has had some seriously amazing systems, the N64 just isn't one of them.
@overwatch761
@overwatch761 Год назад
N64 has so many video out issues. If you don't have a CRT the only way to play N64 games on a modern TV is with a HDMI modification and an Everdrive with auto disable AA patches.
@henrikantonsson2460
@henrikantonsson2460 Год назад
Are there people who doesn't like data?? And I wonder if there's any correlation between used gamesprices, stock prices and the national/global economics. There is a Big Mac-Index...
@GamingTheSystems1
@GamingTheSystems1 Год назад
Most people are only watching 6 minutes of the video, so it may be the data scaring them away.
@skins4thewin
@skins4thewin Год назад
I should also mention that I sometimes sell off parts of my collection, & in 2022 I had LOTS of ppl wanting to buy N64's along with 4 controllers & Goldeneye and/or Mario Kart 64. Lol it was always the same games they wanted, and they always wanted 4 controllers. Always got a chuckle out of it when that happened as I knew exactly what was happening, or moreover the childhood experience those individuals were chasing. That 4 player experience was the one main thing the N64 had over the PS1.
@Totallyking
@Totallyking Год назад
Interesting video. You put a lot of effort into trying to figure it out!
@MrRandomposter
@MrRandomposter Год назад
Love the intro. Putting game after game on the shelf. Nice touch. I think the N64 controller is not very good.
@thecurmudgeon7350
@thecurmudgeon7350 Год назад
I don't even really like the N64 like that but I have to admit that there are at least a 20-30 games I think are worth playing but I wouldn't buy them though...just get an Everdrive.
@SkyScourgeGod
@SkyScourgeGod Год назад
Honestly, whatever the reason may be, I am happy this is happening to the N64. I personally love the N64 and I appreciate its game library more than most other people do so when I saw so many people picking up these games just because they're valuable it kind of irked me. The N64 is a console that can only truly be appreciated by those that grew up with it or by those that understand where it came from and what its capabilities are. I know what to expect from the N64 when I use it and, instead of comparing it to other consoles, I accept it for what it is. Most others are not going to see it that way and will just see something that doesn't look as good or control as good as other retro options. I'm always trying to collect new N64 games that I enjoy when I find them at good prices so it's great to see prices finally coming down to where they should be. Even though I own an Everdrive for the N64 I still do this because I just appreciate the console that much.
@GamingTheSystems1
@GamingTheSystems1 Год назад
The bad news is that CIB N64 games are still going up. I originally included that in the video, but it was cut.
@SkyScourgeGod
@SkyScourgeGod Год назад
@Mister Black New flash my guy, I DO buy stuff that I'll actually use. I never said I wanted ALL the N64 games, I just want what I would see myself playing. Also, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. What you may see as something that isn't very good may be seen as something that is treasured by someone else. The N64 is far from perfect, but I love it regardless of its flaws and I accept it for what it is. If you don't like it, cool story bro. Not going to knock you for having an opinion, but I'd appreciate it if you left others who do enjoy it alone. They don't want to hear your opinion as much as you don't want to hear ours.
@SkyScourgeGod
@SkyScourgeGod Год назад
@@GamingTheSystems1 Good thing I don't collect CIB N64 games then lol. I play all games I collect so I don't like cardboard boxes. They make it difficult to get the game out to play. Instead, if reasonable, I opt for custom plastic cases or just keeping my carts loose on the shelf. Only games I like to collect as CIB are disc-based games like PS1 and anything onwards.
@ufgator812
@ufgator812 Год назад
Great deep dive Kevin. The content and thumbnail are awesome.
@gregoryshuler
@gregoryshuler Год назад
Not sure I get it all, but I'm glad you're covering such things
@jaypas2359
@jaypas2359 Год назад
I’m a gamer in my 30’s. I never had the 64 growing up so I bought one during the pandemic. Getting games for it had this mystery that came with it as I didn’t know what to expect. Everyone talks about wwf no mercy being the best wrestling game ever made so I paid $35 for a physical copy and honestly could not get into it. Picked up more games and slowly started to realize that maybe the games just don’t hold up well. I still have my n64 and I’m constantly going back and forth on whether or not I should sell it or not. The way I play n64 games today are through Nintendo switch online or through rare replay on my series x.
@tonycoffee7335
@tonycoffee7335 Год назад
Yes this video has alot of charts and talky talky... But I like it. Helped me upstanding the proxe charting more. Good video.
@dmcpcrt
@dmcpcrt Год назад
Fast, detailed, informational. What a video!
@LimeAtions
@LimeAtions Год назад
where i live, its like 100 dollars for any of the main n64 hits. majoras mask is probably the worst offender. most stores dont even have it, and when they do its 250 dollars. at that point id just buy an everdrive
@AlexanderShelestov
@AlexanderShelestov Год назад
In the long run, I think all loose games get cheaper. For the purposes of collection, only CIB and sealed ones matter. So the less nostalgia, the cheaper the games. And the more people of the N64 generation die, the more games there are on the market. Because the current generation doesn't care.
@stevirobbo
@stevirobbo 11 месяцев назад
Price charting is out of date by 18 months it is slow to update you only have to look at Japanese wii games they are not price listed due to no sales tgey say butbon ebay there has been many sales for Japanese wii games so it might be ok for US games but games from elsewhere its falling behind great vid though with some good info 😊
@BarrickMacready
@BarrickMacready Год назад
I'm waiting to buy an Evercart64 before I start spending way too much on 64 carts, they are about $170-180 and has the abilty to play mods and romhacks. Some titles id like to have authentic carts but anything i really want to play ill just emulate on my pc.
@Midwestmint
@Midwestmint Год назад
I'm really happy to hear some prices are actually going down. Prices on anything retro have gotten crazy. And the N64 is one of the few systems I don't own, so this is good news for me!
@joelou
@joelou Год назад
I expected it to have a bit to do with the lack of availability of Everdrives during the start of the Ukrainian war while Kirx was relocating shop.
@kr4t0sg.28
@kr4t0sg.28 Год назад
This is good. I've been wanting pokemon stadium.
@SPac316
@SPac316 Год назад
Umm...Goemon is pronounced as Go-E-Mon, not "Go-Man". hehe... Anyway, it's good to see prices going down on something. I wish more systems can level out too.
@GamingTheSystems1
@GamingTheSystems1 Год назад
Thanks for the correction. Nowadays I check the pronunciations ahead of time (or issue a correction on screen), but I didn't check Goemon because I never imagined it could be said any different way.
@skins4thewin
@skins4thewin Год назад
Man I am jealous of your gaming setup. That is one nice setup! Also, awesome job having Detroit Become Human playing in the background - Freaking amazing game!
@JasonWalters.
@JasonWalters. Год назад
4TB HyperSpin +125 Systems | 30,000 GAMES | SWITCH | PS3 | XBOX 360
@larryladeroute971
@larryladeroute971 Год назад
Online seems to be a good call. One phenomena we have seen in the retro game world is nostalgia. People seem to become nostalgia at a certain similar age. Every few years we see an uptick in the next generation of retro consoles. So GameCube is probably going to be picking up.
@nicklesm202
@nicklesm202 Год назад
GameCube is already really expensive
@larryladeroute971
@larryladeroute971 Год назад
@@nicklesm202 Just checked pricecharting. You can get about two thirds of the games inexpensively. But yeah, the popular and uncommon games are $$$.
@nicklesm202
@nicklesm202 Год назад
@@larryladeroute971 well yeah it’s most of the ones you’d want that are overpriced lol
@wubbers662
@wubbers662 Год назад
@@nicklesm202 we need Gamecube games to crash in prices
@skins4thewin
@skins4thewin Год назад
I bet the steep decline is basically all these ppl with wrongly acquired nostalgia for the system becoming N64 crazy around that time, then quickly losing interest altogether once they've had their quick fill. This just reiterated the complete lack of staying power the N64 has in general and the lack of overall quality of the system. Ppl are realizing just how crappy the N64 really was 😅 EDIT - I left this comment before actually watching the end of the video, and it seems your thoughts mirrored my own.
@skins4thewin
@skins4thewin Год назад
I have to ask why the NES isn't even included in your price decrease sheet. Why wasn't that taken into account?
@GamingTheSystems1
@GamingTheSystems1 Год назад
The data I show is accurate. NES prices were not going down at the time of the video. They plateaued a bit since then.
@skins4thewin
@skins4thewin Год назад
@@GamingTheSystems1 Hm, very interesting. My findings have shown a pretty sharp decline overall. Others like Pat the NES Punk have also reported on this trend and have predicted that the NES will continue to fall.
@garyconway3908
@garyconway3908 Год назад
Another interesting video, thank you. Couple of things. The pandemic had no effect on video game prices. Viruses affect us humans, some animals and possibly Windows PCs. They do not infect N64 cartridges. It was the decision of governments around the world to place their populations under house arrest, which drove people onto eBay looking for something to do, a nostalgia fix and some escapism. So it's more accurate to say prices rose due to lockdowns, not the "pandemic". Also I think rather than the "weekly price difference" column a column for the price difference as a percentage of the Jan 2022 price would have shed more light on which games have been affected and which haven't. The price difference on its own doesn't mean that much - a $400 game with a price difference of $20 has hardly changed, whereas a $40 game that's dropped by the same $20 has seen its price slashed 50%.
@ByGeorge846
@ByGeorge846 Год назад
You forgot one important detail: N64 games suck ass and are massively overrated by childhood nostalgia.
@Max-zv8hm
@Max-zv8hm Год назад
I love it. Cruisin exotica is like 40 dollars down from 55
@skins4thewin
@skins4thewin Год назад
I would LOVE to see a video about NES pricing. That to me has seen one of the biggest overall drops & would make for an interesting video.
@The_Real_DCT
@The_Real_DCT 10 месяцев назад
With the NES, I think that drop has to do with the decline of those who grew up with it that are actively collecting for it. Since by now most of them have either gotten out of the hobby or completed their sets and moved on. Similar to what happened with Atari and other 2nd generation consoles before it. Because late 90's-Early 2000's was peak 2nd generation collecting but that dropped off for NES by the mid 2000's. That's just how the scene works from what I observed for my years in it. People will always gravitate the most for the Era that was the most nostalgic for them and maybe the generation after or a generation before but mostly that console generation they grew up in. Which causes prices to rise but eventually they go down because there's a smaller amount of people gunning for it because they are not as nostalgic for them
@skins4thewin
@skins4thewin 10 месяцев назад
@@The_Real_DCT Very true, but I do think NES has some staying power simply due to the quality of the games. That was the first system to have a true, full gaming experience. I think prices will fall to reasonable ranges but that rarer titles will still remain valuable, as they should be honestly. NES games are amazing & it would be a SHAME if they were forgotten...
@JLMtime
@JLMtime Год назад
just found your channel I was about to move on without a sub until I found this video. really appciate the work you put it thanks
@Redmage913
@Redmage913 Год назад
I wonder how much of a factor viable displays play in the N64 discussion. N64 looks pretty terrible on flat panel displays, while emulating the same game even at 1x looks better. I tried Quest 64 on my 1080p display a few months back - the fuzziness gave me a headache, and I had to switch back to Mupen/Project64 after 5-10 minutes. N64 fails without a CRT, or at minimum, N64 needs modern hardware to convert the signal into something more tolerable. That probably doesn’t change the collector’s aspect, but it does create issues for actual classic gamers.
@planet_aldrain224
@planet_aldrain224 Год назад
New fan and subscriber. Loved the Nintendo 64 system. And acquired one for $240.00 and with 6 retro games.The system is original ( thank the heavens) with a memory pak. One original controller and one third party controller. The guy didn’t list the games as original. Was sad about that otherwise they work thankfully. But next time I know what to look out for. I want to own a few original games to build my collection. Keep up the good work love your content.
@nonyabiz9340
@nonyabiz9340 Год назад
It's crazy how five years ago we didn't have to worry about fake N64 carts and now the market is filled with them like a minefield.
@planet_aldrain224
@planet_aldrain224 Год назад
@ Nonya biz yeah it sucks and also I heard playing the fakes damages the system. So I’m not playing them until I get real legit games. And if they actually loved and are gamers themselves they wouldn’t sell fakes but I guess there’re not.
@matt22blaster
@matt22blaster Год назад
Prices should look more attractive to buyers soon. Layoffs are coming and wives will be bitchin about collections... I'll be laying in wait.
@SEESBoy-hy8jz
@SEESBoy-hy8jz Год назад
Which JVC CRT is that? Do you recommend it for CRT gaming?
@jrandt08
@jrandt08 Год назад
Collectibles are no longer a priority for the people they used to be a priority for. People also had a small boost in $ over pandemic to spend on collectibles when gas wasn’t needed nearly as much
@GamingTheSystems1
@GamingTheSystems1 Год назад
But many system prices are still going up, while the N64 is having a large decrease. There's something unique about its situation.
@bryant7750
@bryant7750 Год назад
Japanese Sega Mega Drive games have blown up significantly.....that im trying to figure out.
@charleybarley7148
@charleybarley7148 Год назад
Why? Because the N64 is arguably the worst Nintendo system of all time, and the only people buying it now are those with nostalgia brain.
@ike-2357
@ike-2357 Год назад
unfortunately i don't think the falling prices of Nintendo hudsonsoft, and others games are going to keep going down. least the ones that are on the wiiu eshop. that was the last real alternative to getting some of these games without paying 100 dollars for a single title. the wiiu was the last bit of competition to the used market. and one of the few reasons why earthbound doesn't go above 170, because for around 180 you can buy earthbound and a wiiu for that price. i predict that after the wiiu eshop goes down for good prices of all the games that were on that storefront will shoot up in price on the used market
@CLINTSTER77COX
@CLINTSTER77COX Год назад
You missed something that may factor. The love for the N64 was Kindled just like all other Nintendo but the factor that I think may be missing is N64 casual collectors during the pandemic quickly realized the N64 video quality and HD TVs is the biggest hurdle for enjoyment. So the switch online service really fill the void for the average person not a person like me that bought a retrotink just for better video quality. I have a CRt you have a CRT but really I see them throwing away crts every day. Also is there a metric that shows the amount on the market. When the price of something goes up people tend to list more and flood the market. It’s probably a combination of factors but don’t discount the video quality factor for the average person during the pandemic
@leviwarren6222
@leviwarren6222 Год назад
The games being available on the switch is definitely a factor, but I think the N64 is also something of a boutique system. There were an astonishingly low number of games printed for it, but many of them demand a high dollar. I think that a lot of the collectibility of the system is contingent on the low numbers of games, the variances between prints, and the nostalgia, making the N64 more of a collector's console than most. With many Western countries facing increased inflation right now as well as the artificial bubble created in America by politicians redistributing wealth during the COVID panic thereby dropping cash in the pockets of people who didn't earn it and were thus eager to waste it, I think it makes perfect sense that many prices on games are coming down right now, but especially on those boutique items that people bought specifically as investments. Edit: The assertion that video game prices coming down equals deflation is a strict non sequitur. Inflation indicates that the value of the dollar is decreasing, not that prices are coming down. Also, I know that in America, a lot of small-time video game buyers and sellers were inhibited from buying and selling games on many online marketplaces due to those marketplaces volunteering to report sales above 600 USD to the IRS.
@tybread2997
@tybread2997 Год назад
The only way for prices to come down is for people to just not buy it. Once most people realize these games should not be worth much and just stop buying them, the prices will drop to where they should. I'm calling it, by 2025, no one will care that much anymore about older games again. What we are seeing is the pandemic collectors getting rid of all their stuff and people getting priced out moving to emulation. I'd go with a ODE or everdrive any day then pay some of these prices.
@chucky3285
@chucky3285 Год назад
I doubt it unless the people selling them are desperate for money I know if I had a expensive game and a customer tried to out wait me to buy it for cheap I would rather keep it then sell it
@JTSuter
@JTSuter Год назад
NES and SNES are starting their descent as well.
@zusurs
@zusurs Год назад
Starcraft for N64 for 70 USD? Where? Give me 5 for that price... The chepaset now on Ebay is over 400 USD. I've enabled Ebay notifications for N64 Starcraft for under 200 bucks for YEARS now, and regularly searching in other auction sites - nada.
@GamingTheSystems1
@GamingTheSystems1 Год назад
Are you searching for loose copies? Many have sold recently between $70 and $90.
@zusurs
@zusurs Год назад
@@GamingTheSystems1 Hi! Sorry, I was referring to the boxed copy - those comes from 450-2000 USD range as of today. But even the loose original cartridges starts from 180 USD (including shipping) on Ebay right now. As far as I can tell, all of the currently auctioned 35-150 USD ones on Ebay are fakes (white PCB, rounded cartridge grooves, bad Nintendo logo emboss, mismatching region code - all the usual givaways of a bad fakes).
@AndrewDenny-Tassielad
@AndrewDenny-Tassielad Год назад
Really enjoyed this vid, not sure it's relevant for Australia as well but would presume so.
@Punisher6791
@Punisher6791 Год назад
I use game eye on android to keep track of every game in my collection and prices of games im going to buy. Really awesome app
@Will-qd2km
@Will-qd2km Год назад
I hope prices keep going down, I have avoided N64 collecting wise for a few reasons. First, if you're not running an old crt set up the N64 looks bad on modern TV's, and the hd options for the system aren't that great and the HDMI for the system is pricey if you can't do it yourself. Next up is the thing most of these other systems had and N64 doesn't is great jrpgs. Just not much there, most devs went with the CD based systems in this era. Normally if something is on another console that's usually the better version. And really the great thing about the N64 was local coop and playing with your friends. And most of us are adults now and it's hard to get a few people that wants to play in the same room these days. I think everything will come down on the used game market over the next year. The pandemic spike is over, most people have scratched the itch and are not buying up everything. Also tons of stuff is getting remakes and remasters.
@MrPoeGhost
@MrPoeGhost Год назад
Thanks god, maybe I can finally go back to collecting for the thing.
@DoomguyAV
@DoomguyAV Год назад
Great video!
@IowaRetroGamerDad
@IowaRetroGamerDad Год назад
Its going down because they just released a bunch of games on the Switch I believe. Also, the bubble popped and Gamecube are the games to get now.
@timetravelingoldman6839
@timetravelingoldman6839 Год назад
They are coming down because of Nintendo Online and the GameCubes popularity for the past couple years.
@skins4thewin
@skins4thewin Год назад
Hm... I think the NES decline has been comparable, with some of the rarer titles going up in price probably evening things out a bit. Some of the more common/semi common games for the NES have really taken a drop in price lately.
@tylerheadrick1906
@tylerheadrick1906 Год назад
Super 64 bit retro and everdrive cartridges have almost completely eliminated the demand for authentic games.
@skins4thewin
@skins4thewin Год назад
Honestly, that is pretty weird considering how many ppl are nostalgic for N64, wrongly so as that may be. I wonder if ppl could actually be realizing how crappy the N64 library really is. It's by far Nintendo's worst game library imo.
@uwehoeren
@uwehoeren Год назад
I think the loss is realy good seeable as the N64 Games are came to the Switch. So they lost value, the interest ist not that big than before. For me as i Collect N64 Games its absolutely ok that we have little price loss ^^ but its not that big in PAL Region :/
@GibbsBro
@GibbsBro Год назад
Love this video. Thanks for the deep dive!
@NerdThingsAndMore
@NerdThingsAndMore Год назад
Good info thanks
@reinforcedpenisstem
@reinforcedpenisstem Год назад
The median is probably more meaningful than an average.
@kristanner3933
@kristanner3933 Год назад
What is the music you use for your intro? It seems super familiar. ActRaiser maybe?
@scottcolpitts8521
@scottcolpitts8521 Год назад
It's a system that a lot of people find hard to go back to since a lot of the games did not age well. Still one of my favorites, but its much easier to go back to gamecube and even snes. That being said, being that is has a small library, the good ones are really really good for me anyway.
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 Год назад
Fortunately, the good ones tend to be readily available on other consoles.
@joyasmusicales603
@joyasmusicales603 Год назад
Few good ones, most bad ones!
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