NAM vs ToneX vs Quad Cortex vs Kemper: can a free plugin beat paid solutions

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In this video we will compare the NAM vs the ToneX vs the Quad Cortex vs the Kemper, to verify in a scientific way, if a free plugin can beat paid solutions and which one is the best profiler in the world!!!
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⏰Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
0:38 - The scientific test (NAM vs Tone X vs Kemper vs Quad Cortex)
8:08 - Demo Song and blind test
11:35 - My two cents
#NAM #QuadCortex #ToneX #Kemper

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@SMGMusic14 Год назад

NO ONE comes close to such brilliant comparisons. Such a simple trick of phase inversion being able to pull the pants down on the big players hardware was great. Never change, Leo!

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you so much for such great compliments!!! I'm really happy that you like the video!!!

@AntonovichHicksenbrau Год назад

Thank you for this video

@fernandomoreira256 Год назад

The best explanation in the RU-vid history.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you so much for such a great compliment! really appreciated!

@ricardoalexandreguedes4095 9 месяцев назад

The best indeed. Thank you for the video

@kotekutalia 5 месяцев назад

I love his accent

@begooode380 Год назад

You are providing quantitative information to go along with qualitative assessments/judgements AND real life “in the mix” experiences for context. You deserve way more subscribers based on your earnest contributions to tone fans and great guitar playing, imo. Thank you.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you so much, your feedback and support are super important for me and really mean a lot to me!!! Thank you!!!

@hannibalbarkas1350 Год назад

I love NAM so much, it's already my main guitar amp (using a Splawn Pro Mod profile mostly, one of my dream amps and now I got it for free) and not looking back. Great testing, thanks!

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

You are welcome! Yes, it's a great tool!

@poppsen4145 Год назад

this is by far the best comparison I've ever seen, this was worth every second, thank you very much for the hard work, it really shows.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Wow, thank you so much....I'm really happy that you have appreciated the video!!!

@marcelospaiva Год назад

Excelent video... I was very curious to see you doing this a comparation. You are the best in the internet, teaching and showing us the amp and gear sounds

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you so much Marcelo, for such a great compliment!!!

@arcam4981 Год назад

Leo, sei sempre un passo avanti a tutti gli altri. Sempre video con contenuti di altissimo livello.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Grazie mille per il bellissimo compimento! sono contento che i video ti piacciano!

@henryzometa Год назад

I was waiting this comparison. Thank you

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

You are welcome!!! I'm happy to have been of some help!!!

@jwright8838 Год назад

Great video, Leo. Its very telling that the AD converters/preamps play a very important role in Profiling.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you, I'm happy that you like the video! Yes, they have for sure a role...I'm not sure how big it is...but there is...

@taylormesa 9 месяцев назад

Thank you for the comparison analysis! On the Quad Cortex forums, there are some who are saying that CORS 2.1 has improved the capture quality. It would be interesting to see the same null test after the update (Aug 23). Thanks for all of your work, you have great content!

@LeoGibsonGtr 9 месяцев назад

You are welcome and I'm really happy that you like the video!!! Thank you also for sharing this info...I'm was not aware...I will think about it. Thank you once more!

@seyrnahd 8 месяцев назад

Fantastic video. This is the exact kind of comparison we need to help us get informed opinions and buying decisions.

@LeoGibsonGtr 8 месяцев назад

Thank you sooo much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!

@deanandthebeans857 Год назад

Thanks for going to all this trouble - brilliantly done!

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

You are welcome and I'm happy that you appreciate the video!!!

@BobGuido Год назад

Glad to be an influence on your awesome channel Leo! Great testing as always. I am pushing hard for NAM to become stereo, so you can insert it onto stereo tracks and also run stereo wet effects in front of it. I would also love to see a pedal maker build a pedal that hosts NAM, so you can have this sound on your pedalboard. Stereo would be amazing, so that it can integrate seamlessly with all of your other stereo pedals!

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you! Yes, actually I load to NAM instances in order to have stereo tracks...therefore a stereo native NAM would be appreciated!

@rickard9294 Год назад

According to anecdotes it is possible to run a Standard quality NAM model on a Raspberry Pi. Even lower CPU usage is being worked on also.

@winstonsmith8240 Год назад

As someone who owns a 335 stereo guitar, ' I second that emotion.'

@jasonferridge510 11 месяцев назад

The Poly Effects Beebo from Australia now runs NAM -it’s currently in beta.

@Viperfitness Год назад

This channel has crazy good content! You are truly great, Leo!

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you so much for such a great compliment !!!! Really appreciated!!!

@zanzibar3758 Год назад

Great video! Thanks for that. Consider make profiles for the NAM to share or sell in the future.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

You are welcome and I'm happy that you like the video!!! Thank you also for your suggestion!

@lgx2410 11 месяцев назад

What an incredible comparison. Thanks!

@LeoGibsonGtr 11 месяцев назад

You are welcome and I'm really happy that you like the video!!!

@csharpminorseven Год назад

Rig 3 fwiw. Much more important is your great contribution to guitar players' understanding of this new technology - fantastic, thanks Leo, your videos much appreciated! 👍

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video! Thank you also for sharing your favourite rig!

@pablomenezzes Год назад

You have the best videos, best content, best editing ever. Love your chanel. Cheers from Brazil!

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Hi Pablo, thank you soooo much for such an amazing comment and compliment!!! Really appreciated!

@97guitarzan Год назад

Great information...Great video and great playing as usual!

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you soooooo much!!!

@CrownedWarriorBand Год назад

On first listen I thought 3 and 5 sounded the best, but especially 5. It just seemed to have more harmonic content. I would definitely like to see how to capture an amp with NAM. I did try once so far but my files would not even upload. Thanks so much for doing this video!

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

You are welcome! Yes, I trained the profiles locally on my pc...I even did't try the google collab tour...I prefer to have everything under control, learning what I have to learn.

@mik3rizzo Год назад

Scientifico, pratico e concreto! Complimenti, ho apprezzato il video sia da fan del suono che da ingegnere :)

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Grazie mille, sono veramente contento che il video ti sia piaciuto!

@itamar_vidal Год назад

Hi Leo. Congrats that was a great test. If you want to refine the test I recommend to use a frequency generator to scan a narrow band frequency and invert it. I am going to explain. Amps are extremely non-linear. Most parts of tone are composed by harmonics superposition which are extremely reach. Therefore some resulting frequency intensity is a complex superposition of many combinations, If you scan a single frequency and its harmonics you will be sure they are been reproduced precisely. But for first trial your test is amazing. Congrats for the unique video test.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you so much, I'm happy that you like the videos and the tests! Thank you also for the tips...pretty interesting...I have to think about this suggestions...Thank you!

@hainokeiji 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for the objective data from phase cancellation and the blind test where you can enjoy subjective evaluation. I have already purchased Kemper, but I have decided to purchase Tonex as well.

@LeoGibsonGtr 6 месяцев назад

Thank you so much for your donation and your support: it means a lot to me!!!! I'm happy to have been of some help!!!

@marcricos 4 месяца назад

Man, this video is a masterpiece. Great educational content, great comparison, great entertainment rythm and fun, amazing demo... Congratulations!

@LeoGibsonGtr 4 месяца назад

Thank you so much for such amazing compliment!!! Thank you for taking the time to live a feedback: it means a lot to me!!!

@bootlegnjack Год назад

I've been mucking around with NAM and it's been pretty bloody fun

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you for sharing!

@Stefan- Год назад

Very interesting and great video as always !

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you Stefan, really appreciated!

@sergioquintero8782 Год назад

Leo excellent video!! great comparsion, you deserve more subscribers than you actually have

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you sooo much Sergio, I'm really happy that you like the videos!!!

@tumvero Год назад

My friend you did an excellent job in this video, very professional. Please keep making videos with this technology. Cheers

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you sooo much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!!! Yes...a new (and hope interesting) one is coming...😀👍

@riglerdaniel Год назад

This is how you do a test. Love your channel!

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the channel!!!

@roscius6204 Год назад

The phase inversion idea was brilliant Leo. Now I wonder if the same were applied to different takes. So capture an amp and then capture it again, same unit and compare :O

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you! Yes, good point about the amp sound captured in different moments. Here there are some more info about this topic: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Rd00a2vh6F8.html

@bosher11 6 месяцев назад

This is the best guitar channel for these kinds of comparisons. So technical and also entertaining

@LeoGibsonGtr 6 месяцев назад

Thank you so much for such an amazing compliments!!! I really means a lot to me!!!!

@akaerik1 Год назад

Leo you are by far the coolest tone nerd in existence. Keep up the awesome work.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you so much, really appreciated!!!

@rflessati Год назад

Excellent video Leo, perfect comparison. Great músic as always!

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video and the music!!!

@andythefrenchy8026 Год назад

It would be great to also include GE Labs and AIDA-X in future comparison videos. Thanks for your amazing work!

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you! Yes, good suggestion, even if GE Labs runs on iPad and require a totally different connection and routing...that's why is not included.

@demondrive147 Год назад

Thank you for this!! Awesome tones and scientific testing!

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you so much!!!! I'm really happy that you appreciate the video, the test and the tones!!!

@demondrive147 Год назад

@@LeoGibsonGtr my inner self is nerding out happily! Thank you!

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

😀👍

@trentreimer130 Год назад

Thanks for these great tests Leo! My favourites, ranked, were #1, 5, 2, 4 and 3. Surprised to see that I ranked the Kemper one spot ahead of the more accurate ToneX. Will have to give NAM a try on my opensource operating system.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

You are welcome and thank you for sharing your findings!

@lapocasini1246 6 месяцев назад

I was surprised as well. Though ive heard that tone x for some reason has a little less gain than the amp its profiling and experienced profilers will add a clean boost to make it more close to the amp. I wonder if thats what we were hearing.

@AlleiN 2 месяца назад

Im here just to congratulate you for this amazing video. Nice job. Nice explanation. Nice technique. Nice everything.

@LeoGibsonGtr 2 месяца назад

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video...and well....Nice comment ... 😀 Thank you so much!!!

@Alex_Martz Год назад

Your tests are the best!, I think you're the only youtuber doing a real Null test which is the most scientific way of doing these kind of comparisons, for a trained ear the other difference is that the more realistic the capture the more "3D" it appears to be and NAM really has that 3D quality, another interesting point you mention is that these captures are accurate for a SINGLE setting and as soon as someone tries to EQ or adjust the capture it'll divert from the original in an unpredictable way that no longer resembles the original unless, as you also stated correctly, you can blend captures with each knob movement and that brings the problem of processing power and memory as you'll need almost infinite combinations of captures to truly recreate an amp in software, fortunately we have Modeling which tries to solve this problem by programming it's algorithms to emulate and recreate what these knob movements would create on the real amp, That's why I think a combination of both technologies is what manufacturers should focus on, BTW, did you uploaded your Friedman capture into the NAM hive cloud?, Thanks!

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Hi, interesting point...mixing modelling and profiling would be interesting...I think we can also proceed in discrete steps...like proteus is starting doing. I mean for instance we can profile the gain knob at 20% 30% 40% etc...and then make the other combination...I think it's feasible...of course you have to spend a lot of time profiling all the combination...or the most relevant ones..... Thank you so much for your comment and I'm happy that you like the videos!!

@imcrazedandconfused Год назад

@@LeoGibsonGtr Profiling and neural network modeling are very different approaches. The neural network for us is a Black Box. It has nothing to do with emulation of a tube amp at all. We train it as a whole, we can not change certain characteristics after the model is trained. That makes it hard to combine it with other techniques. The tone stack of Tonex shows this, many criticize it, because you can hear it is not naturally baked into the amp. With Proteus and NAM it is principally possible to train a model with more parameters, from the real thing. One complete amp has already been made with NAM. It took 1 week to train and sounds fantastic. It took 70 captures to get the best out of it. Still, the resulting model does not need THAT much processing power, the most is invested in the training. I think, for future, there is not much potential in combining profiling with neural network amps, but a lot of potential in making it a bit more lightweight, in optimization, usage of graphics cards and meaningful user interfaces and a good choice of parameters to model. The other great thing are fantastic hardware emulators like Otto Audio II II II. This thing let me build hi gain amps, that I never heard before, in a plugin. Very intuitive, very sophisticated, great sounding. I use it to design some fantasy amp sounds for metal to use in a project. I then make Proteus models of them and use them inside of BYOD in the project. It's a fantastic new world for sounds right now. You can also model your studio hardware with NAM. There are already nam models for the nonlinear soundeffects of the Neve 1073 micpre, the Teletronix LA2A and the 1176 blue stripe compressors and a Studer tape (left and right). Fantastic times for musicians.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Hi, thank you so much for this informative post! May I ask you where can I dine the complete amp made with NAM? I would like to do the same thing with my Twin Sister and my Pink Taco...very interesting also the Otto Audio plugin...I want to try it out! Thanks!

@hirpisorani9600 Год назад

@@imcrazedandconfusedwhat's the complete amp in nam?

@imcrazedandconfused Год назад

@@hirpisorani9600 There are a lot of amps captured with a load box These need an IR. But there are also models of the whole stack captured with a microphone, amp and cab.

@digitalchris6681 Год назад

Very interesting and very useful. I'll try the NAM and, if it's as good as I suspect it will be, sell my Quad Cortex (which I don't use for pedal emulation etc). Please do post a video on how you train the NAM.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you so much! Yes, I will try to do a video about NAM training...

@HippyDruid77 Год назад

Great video mate! Thanks for sharing. 🤘

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

You are welcome, I'm happy that you like the video!

@davidletterboyz Год назад

What a genius way to compare audio similarities!

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you sooooo much, really super appreciated!!!

@89ji76 Год назад

Would love to see a comparison between the NAM with a high end interface like yours and something like a Focusrite Scarlett that we could expect most people would be using. Especially people looking for a free solution.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Hi, thank you for sharing and for your suggestion!

@davidmultimedia2024 Год назад

Thank you Leo, it is such a joy to watch your consistent quality content! I've paid for Tonex Max just a few days before discovering NAM, but I still prefer Tonex for a few reaons. First, CPU usage. NAM is noticeably more taxing on the processing power, and in a mix at 48khz 64 bit float which include a complex console emulation rig on the mix bus (which is already pretty taxing because it needs to apply it on every track in the session), it becomes way too heavy and i'm having crackling/popping noises even on my custom pc built for 6K RAW video editing. To reduce it, you have to drop down the training fidelity when creating the profile, which makes no sense to me at this point. Also, since I don't own any amps anymore and I'm exclusively using other people captures, Tonex has a lot more to offer at the moment. The null tests do confirm that NAM is even more accurate, but otherwise you couldn't tell (at least not enough for me to care). Still, NAM is awesome and will definitely change the game even further!

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

You are welcome and I'm really happy that you like the videos!!! Interesting points...good point about the CPU usage...I didn't notice it...I have to try....Of course ToneX is a much more complete platform...and the Tone X pedal was a great addition to the IK line up of products... Thank you once more!!!

@imcrazedandconfused Год назад

You might check out the GuitarML Proteus for lighter CPU usage. The models can also be load into Chow DSP BYOD. They are lighter on CPU and can be modeled FAST (I can train a model in 10 minutes easily in 1660 to 3080 wit CUDA. I wrote a Proteus Model Builder to easily train a model offline. They are still on par with the Tonex easily, if not better. The guy who wrote Proteus also contributes to NAM now.

@imcrazedandconfused Год назад

@@LeoGibsonGtr It may be interesting to hear, that there are active developments underway to make the open source neural modelers more complete and user friendly. I wrote a wrapper app for Proteus and am currently actively developing a GUI for the training process for 'NAM, too, and Proteus can be run in a DIY pedal already. There are also active developments underway to compile also NAM for the ARM platforms, e.g. as an lv2 plugin that could be loaded into MODDwarf, a commercially available pedal.

@davidmultimedia2024 Год назад

@@imcrazedandconfused interesting, thanks for the insight

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you so much, very cool info!!!!

@MartinZiegert 5 месяцев назад

You nailed it. That was exactly what I liked to know and your Video gave me confidence about: _How is the quality, and how to measure or compare it?_ You answered that question.

@LeoGibsonGtr 5 месяцев назад

Thank you so much, I'm really happy to have been of some help!!!!

@jan9 Год назад

Thank you Leo, for doing this review :)

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

You are welcome!!!

@razznote7586 7 месяцев назад

This is becoming close to a PH. D. in Accoustics, Modelling and Profiling of Analog Devices to their Digital Representations, Leo you are the best in this domain so far in the world.

@LeoGibsonGtr 7 месяцев назад

Hi, thank you sooo much for such an amazing compliment that really makes me happy!!!

@KevinAEDGuitareBlues Год назад

Thank you Leo ! Very interesting video and the song is very beautiful !

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you sooo much....when you like my music...I'm super happy!!!

@AndyInTheUK Год назад

No of course I can't tell the difference! And even if I could it doesn't mean I prefer one rig over another one. What a brilliant demonstration. Thank you.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you Andy, I'm happy that you like the video!!!

@crissvis9204 Год назад

Crazy! Thank you Leo, I enjoy It.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you so much, I'm happy that you appreciate the video!!!

@joejohnson8966 Год назад

Unbeatable. Thank you so much for your work.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

You are welcome and I'm really happy that you like the video!!!

@jcoulter43 Год назад

Most of the technical stuff you talked about was way over my head, but interesting nonetheless. Will be interesting to hear about Proteus that you mentioned. My favorite way to use IR's is exactly what you mentioned, by having 10-20 IR's of the same speaker and mic combo, but with the mic position moved subtly around the speaker and at different distances and angles. It's totally nerdy stuff, but fun to experiment with. God bless and rock on 🎸😎👍

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you! Yes, I do agree...pretty nerdy...but totally worth trying... Thank you!

@trentberry4081 11 месяцев назад

OutSTANDING video sir!!

@LeoGibsonGtr 11 месяцев назад

Thank you so much, I'm super happy that you like the video!!!

@andrewrwhitfield Год назад

Awesome video! Thank you.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

You are welcome, and I'm happy that you like the video!!!

@progrob27 Год назад

Great video thanks dude and nice playing, if you would be up for doing a capture process tutorial for the nam plug-in that would be a resource lots of us would find really helpful I think would probably help support the developer/s as well.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you, I'm really happy that you like the video!!! Yes, I should do it...I need time...Thank you!

@magicmusic8 Месяц назад

warm greetings from Oz; thanks for all your efforts to convey these DI amp tones, in simple terms..... can be a deep digital rabbit hole .... avoided by an analogue Princeton reverb amp & EQ pedal

@LeoGibsonGtr Месяц назад

You are welcome and thank you for sharing

@Fender308 Год назад

Leo, you are a proper scientist! Love your videos.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you soooooo much!!!! This is such a great compliment...really appreciated!

@pepper... Год назад

Imbattibile. Grazie tante per il tuo lavoro!!! 👍👍👍

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Grazie a te, sono veramente contento che ti piaccia il video!!!

@jessychancerel Год назад

Thanks for this really objective comparison. 👍👍

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

You are welcome Jessy, and I'm happy that you have appreciated the video!!

@MrTupeloFlash Год назад

Great time to be a studio guitarist, please more on NAM Leo & dont forget the clean tone subscribers 🙏🏻

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Ok, thank you! Yes...sorry, I have in mind a video with clean tones since a long time...I need to find out the time...You are right. Thank you!

@hav_bs0lll Год назад

excellent information Leo, thanks

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

You are welcome, and I'm happy that you like the video!

@topavelka Год назад

I like rig n.1 (blind test) . . . but difference are very small . . . thanks for the demo.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

You are welcome and thank you for sharing!

@400_billion_suns Год назад

Great job Leo! I can tell you always put a lot of work into your videos and I think they’re the best on RU-vid for this kind of stuff. Big kudos to you. I have two questions about the null test: (1) Did you make sure the waveforms were time-aligned down to the individual sample? (2) Did you also make sure the two waveforms were level-matched until they gave the quietest null? To have truly accurate null tests, both of those things are crucial. Thanks!

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video! Yes to both the questions...I've spent a lot of time to level match the wave forms and to align them...I'm working on this video actually almost since a month... Thank you!

@400_billion_suns Год назад

@@LeoGibsonGtr Thanks for the reply! You’re always so thorough that I expected you did do those things, but I just wanted to double check. Again, great job, and thank you for all the top-quality videos you create.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you!

@tranqbee6543 Год назад

Great job on the comparison bueno

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!

@robertodepetro1996 Год назад

Io ho votato per il 5, nel mix lo preferisco, ed è quello gratuito! Questo canale è il top, bel brano, video intelligenti e di taglio pratico. Bravissimo, un abbraccio

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Grazie mille Roberto, sono contento che i contenuti ti piacciano!!!!

@picksalot1 Год назад

Thanks for making this excellent video, learning about NAM, and doing the comparison fascinating. I'm glad it's something you enjoyed doing, and I'm sure it required good computer skills and technical know how. The Null Test clearly demonstrated that NAM had the highest fidelity available. Do you have any insights on how the NAM Captures/Profiles could be imported into a Modeler, like the HX Stomp? Could they be imported as an IR, would they require some type of VST Host running on the Modeler, or some other solution that would make them portable and loadable inside the Modeler?

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you, yes...it was very funny to learn all this stuff....even if pretty time consuming... I don't think it is possible to import it in an amp modeller...but you can port it in any windows device which is able to host a vst plugin....also a table... Thank you!

@surfinjim Год назад

Merci ! As other said better than I could, this is a very instructive video. Thank you!

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Wow, thank you soooo much, I'm really happy that you like the video and your feedback and support is super important for me!!!

@winstonsmith8240 Год назад

I chose 1&5, in that order. 🤔 I've got time to learn. 😊 Thanks.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

You are welcome and thank you for sharing!

@danthegeetarman Год назад

I preferred 5 & 1 while 4 came in third with my least favorite being 3. Was almost going to buy a quad cortex but since they were hard to get, never ended up getting one. Now glad I didn’t get one. There’s a FREE plugin that sounds almost exactly like the real amps. Unbelievable. And thanks again for your thorough technical review Leo. I love seeing stuff like that for your reviews 👍🙏🙏

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you, both for the compliment and for sharing your findings!!!

@zuider77 Год назад

That was an excellent comparison. Personally, I preferred #5 (what a pleasant surprise), but I thought they all sounded really, really good. I guess I need to take a look at NAM. lastly, that was some very tasty playing on your part. Thanks!

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you for sharing and I'm really happy that you like the playing!!!

@emmanouilchatzigeorgiou1386 10 месяцев назад

Without checking the other comments, I'd say that I prefered 1, 5, 4, 3, 2. Thanks for the comparison!

@LeoGibsonGtr 10 месяцев назад

You are welcome and thank you for sharing your findings!

@milfwah555 Год назад

I have the whole IK setup (Tonex Max, Amplitube-5 Max, Tonex Capture, Tonex Pedal and use a Two notes Captor for profiling). I also messed about with NAM but have yet to figure out how to do my own profiles with it. From the profiles I have tried with NAM it is excellent. That said, I am absolutely in love with Tonex. To me Tonex is the Line6 of profiling in that it brought excellent tone to the masses in an easy to use package and at a reasonable cost. I find that if I capture one of my own amps with it (I capture with no cab and no other signal processing but straight into the interface) the included ir's (I love the Memory Lane cab in the 4x12 section and the 4x12 Green in the VIR section) Reverb (plate for me) and compressor. I then import my preset into my Tonex pedal and do a few further tweaks it is my best tone of my playing life (hacking away since the early 1970's)

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you so much for sharing your experience! Interesting points...

@Stratguy10NZ Год назад

Fantastic video Leo

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you so much, really appreciated!!!

@StratsRUs Год назад

Superb ! Well Done.. and your great bass player is a giant !

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you so much!!! Well, the bass player must practice more...😀

@swmorgan515 4 месяца назад

Wow great aporoach to objectively evaluate profilers, and great explanation. I'm curious how the profiling in the Mooer ge300 and other devices stacks up.

@LeoGibsonGtr 4 месяца назад

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!!! Yes, it is interesting...but unfortunately the GE Labs App works only for phones or tablet...and with phones and tablet I cannot use my "standard" recording chain, as I have to use a different audio interface...therefore I cannot compare....

@atrothe Год назад

Thanks Leo. Your the best reviewer in the business man.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you so much for such a great compliment! really appreciated!

@TheXIT Год назад

I appreciate your videos and guitar playing! Please try the new Headrush Prime!

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you so much, I’m really happy that you like my playing! as you can immagine, I can’t afford to buy everything, and this is pretty expensive. obviously if Headrush send me a unit to test, I will be happy to make some videos. thank you!

@Filip_K_Shapethesound Год назад

Subbed and liked, super cool video. The only tiny thing that I'd like to add is that it's not a "phase inverted", but "polarity inverted" signal :)

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video and your sub really mean a lot to me! As regards polarity, as far as I know, “Reverse Phase” in Cubase means “reverse polarity,” so that positives become negatives and vice versa. I'm not 100% sure...but that's what I found in the forums....Any feedback from you on this topic would be appreciated. Thank you!

@Filip_K_Shapethesound Год назад

@@LeoGibsonGtr Thanks for the response! Well, as far as I'm concerned, polarity refers to either positive or negative values of the sine wave, where phase actually refers to sine wave in time. So when you align 2 waveforms that they start precisely on the same sample - you're aligning phase. But when you make positive values negative and vice versa, you reverse polarity of the signal. My Console1 also states that it's phase inversion, which is not what it really is :)

@Filip_K_Shapethesound Год назад

@@LeoGibsonGtr ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IrXHVWPGdeQ.html found this and it seems like a really good explanation :)

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Ok, thanks!

@Hexspa 5 месяцев назад

Something worth considering is how “deep into a mix” we can hear. Ethan Winer did tests where he mixed tones and noise into various program material. Depending on the kind of program, like a rock mix, and noise, like a sine or noise burst, and how loud they are relative to one another, even obnoxious and inharmonic sounds can be completely masked. That applies here. Let’s say there’s a 30dB difference in accuracy among these modelers vs the real amp. Then let’s also suppose we can only hear the top 20dB of a loud and dense rock mix. That means as soon as the guitar is pushed back 10dB from the top of the mix in terms of volume, the differences among the amps and profilers will disappear. You can hear that in your demo where you swap sounds on the rhythm guitar. The differences are less noticeable or altogether imperceptible. In contrast, when you play the the solo and switch, because the whole crest of the guitar is higher, the differences become more obvious. I’ll add that the solo also places the frequency content emphasis toward our centers of hearing from 1-4kHz (high E 20th fret is around 1kHz plus the harmonics) which is subjectively the same as turning up the volume (equal loudness contours). Put simply, it matters more for lead guitar than rhythm in many cases. This is just a little more detail on the common notion that people say with “but in a mix you can’t tell.” Well, maybe or maybe not. It depends on the program material, how featured the sound is and how close the model/imitation is to the “real thing”. If you’re interested in reading Ethan’s article on it, you can search his name and “artifact audibility” or just test yourself with various backing tracks and noise generators in your daw.

@TheMrClaus 5 месяцев назад

That's some impressive explanation

@LeoGibsonGtr 5 месяцев назад

Thank you soooo much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the explanation!

@soundstorm9508 4 месяца назад

Excellent tests, Leo! I wonder how the Tonex would perform on the null tests after their updates? It seems to me from watching others channels that they always had to raise the gain control after the capturing was complete, and also they would add a bit of presence too.

@LeoGibsonGtr 4 месяца назад

Thank you! I don't think that the update has changed / improved the capturing process....I have to check it out. Thanks!

@michelemori1765 Год назад

e anche oggi Leo si riafferma il punto di riferimento per le comparazioni 🤘

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Grazie Michele...troppo buono!!!

@halfhashed8688 Год назад

Wow great video! This is really tough to discern but here goes (if I get one right it's a win lol) - 1. Quad Cortex 2. Neural 3. Real Amp 4. Tonex 5. Kemper

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you for sharing!!!

@MatteoSacilotto 8 месяцев назад

Grande Leo! Sembri Alberto Angela!

@LeoGibsonGtr 8 месяцев назад

😀😀😀 Grazie!!!

@Bero70 Год назад

Thank you Leo. Null test is the only way I would ever accept any comparison .So far ,in 2023, NAM is THE BEST at profiling unless someone can prove otherwise.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

You are welcome and thank you for sharing!

@32riffs Год назад

Awesome comparison 👌

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you sooo much, really appreciated!!!

@32riffs Год назад

@@LeoGibsonGtr love to see comparisons that are based on data and not only our ears 👂 cause even if I managed to guess the real amp (most likely by luck) it was really marginals probably if I saw it another day I'd choose another rig 😂

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Yes, I do agree...👍

@imcrazedandconfused Год назад

I want to really thank you for your very good videos. Actually, I bought an Ampero after seeing one of them a while ago. It is great, that you use actual science to show the viewers, that good sound is NOT magic. It is science. Tubes are tubes and not magic fairy dust. And if someone is not actually able to perceive the difference between the analog device and the digital model, there we have a point, where the discussion of "what sounds better" became meaningless. Then everything is about handling, processor power, mobility, real estate and physical weight! Of course people will still buy amps, because of nostalgic or historic value, status symbols etc. or for namedropping to get clients!

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the videos!!! Yes, I think that tube amps are here to stay even if we will be able to copy them digitally...I still buy tube amps, even if I think that digital solutions are very very good. It's like my black Suhr guitar....why I finally end up wanting to play that guitar? Because I have a connection with that guitar...when I see her, I want to play...the same think happens with real amps...they are attracting me, they are nice to see, they have an history...This is not logical, considering the price, but as we said in Italy "al cuore non si comanda" ...

@kingpossie Год назад

With the Kemper you could have used the S/PDIF to bypass one A/D conversion - anyway awesome test.

@MeTuLHeD Год назад

Awesome video Leo! I've been preaching this gospel for years now. The null test is truly the ONLY way to determine how close a real amp is to a modeled counterpart. Ain't science grand? :D

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you, I'm super happy that you like the video!!! Yes, science is grand!!!!

@guitartoneSA Год назад

I'm waiting for one of the famous "RU-vidrs" to do an A/B/C comparison and NUL test between three 1965 Deluxe Reverbs or JCM800s all mic'd up the same...they'll sound different, so what's the point?

@MeTuLHeD Год назад

@@guitartoneSA True. But you missed the point. Every modeled amp is based on a specific amp. They can't model EVERY Rectifier. The null just allows them to create a copy of that one single amp. But it would be a perfect copy. Completely indistinguishable from the amp being modeled.

@christian_oz Год назад

Hi and thank you for the video, it would have been quite a bit of work to put it together. I just wanted to point out that when you compare the spectrum analysis of the resulting signal, after substring the reference from the real amp, you mention that the Kemper and Cortex are missing high and low frequencies. That actually means the opposite, which is that in the high and low frequencies, the Kemper and Cortex very closely match the reference signal. In other words, they are not missing those frequencies, but instead they are present closely matching the reference signal. Cheers

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Hi Christian, thank you for sharing! Yes, this video took me a lot of time... Actually I don't 100% agree...The reference amp may have more high freq than the profiled one...in this case if we make Reference amp - Profile, where the resulting eq curve is higher, is where the profile is lacking...

@Airtrooper719 Год назад

1 and 5 edit: oh crap NAM is really awesome!!! my ears instantly loved that tone more than the others, sounds very rich, detailed and organic.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Hi, thank you for sharing!

@62goodyear 3 месяца назад

Thank you!

@LeoGibsonGtr 3 месяца назад

You are welcome!

@lolch2 Год назад

Awesome Leo, thanks! Can you share the nam file with the community? It sounds really really good!

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Thank you, I'm happy that you like the sound! I have to do it...

@CARLOSGALVEZMUSIC Год назад

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Thanks Leo! 🎉🎉🎉

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

You are welcome Carlos!!! 🙏🙏

@lorraineming4590 Год назад

Great plugin, dude who coded this thing is the GOAT.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

I do agree...Steven Atkinson...

@Krolicks Год назад

Now we need special budget pedalbox for loading NAM under foot) My favorite 5, 3, 4, 2

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Hi, thank you for sharing! Yes, an hardware unit loading the NAM would be interesting!

@mirageinmirror1497 6 месяцев назад

Absolut amazin comparison! Great! Scientific and few subjective opinions!!! 1A!

@LeoGibsonGtr 6 месяцев назад

Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the videos!! It means a lot to me!!!

@mattvdh Год назад

There are people working behind the scenes to have a more streamlined capture app so it's not so technical to setup. I think once that takes foot NAM's potential will truly shine.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Hi, thank you for sharing!!

@ricardadn 5 месяцев назад

Ets un crack. Moltes gràcies!

@LeoGibsonGtr 5 месяцев назад

Thank you!!!

@filotest3093 Год назад

What a surprise for me. I thought 1/3 (Kemper or QC), 2/4 (NAM or Tonex) and 5 Friedman. Because I like sound of 5, I thought it must be an original amp :) Thank you Leo!

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

You are welcome and thank you so much for sharing your findings!!!

@thecaveofthedead Год назад

Same. I was thinking exactly that.

@ANGBONGful Год назад

Thank you for the detailed experiment. One thing I'm concerned about is.. Did you match the overall volume among profilers? If not, slight mismatch will result in significant wrong conclusion in comparison. Imagine perfect capture device will capture with perfect waveform except slight different amplitude (90% volume for example). A-0.9*A=0.1A right? And similar discussion on latency difference can hold.

@LeoGibsonGtr Год назад

Hi, yes, I aligned the wave forms and I levelled match the volumes...it was a very painful and annoying tasks...even because I test various riff, etc...actually this video took me almost a month...