And not only that, but one of his gold medals was won when he was on a team with college players, not an All NBA team. That team still beat the competition like an All NBA team. They didn't start using NBA players until 1992. So Jordan couldn't play in 1988
People say "undefeated in NBA finals" like it's that big of an accomplishment. It's better to lose in the finals than it is in the first round. A loss is a loss.. period. Now it's you were to say.. Jordan never lost a series in the playoffs (finals included).. that would be absolutely great.
@@cherimoneeboone7127nawl but they speak up for Jordan since Jordan don't go out his way to defend himself, like how lebron, leMedia ,KlutchSports and u lebron fan boys need talking points and narratives to elevate lebron because lebron, leMedia, KlutchSports and u fan boys are very insecure about lebron career. Nice try though
@@cherimoneeboone7127 nawl fella a person that is having #fakeOutrage about a current player that wants to be in da news and when he gets attention now ur crying see that screams INSECURITY fella. Lebron, leMedia, KlutchSports and u fan boys are very very very INSECURE fella remind yall are still chasing that GHOST fella. Nice try though
But what you don't understand Daniel is that if they would've lost y'all would have never stopped talking about it and throwing it back in his face. Y'all would have brought it up in everything LeBron related. Some of you even rooted AGAINST you're own country hoping he would lose 😂😂😂😂
@sam… Bro y’all have lived off of lies and falsehood about Mike for the last decade. Lebron and his fans have tried to erase Mike with lies that go directly against *reality* for almost 10 years now. And then y’all actually cry foul when someone tells the truth about Lebron and legitimately critiques him/his career. Can any Lebron fan explain that?
@@bigpapi2738 He didn't need to try so hard to make plays and perform against Sudan, Brazil, Puerto Rico. The truth is that when he needed to, against the best opponents and in both decisions, once again LeBron wasn't the best on his team.
@@bigpapi2738both games vs Argentina and Spain Lebron had three turn over only score 4pts in the 4thq the gold medal game Lebron was getting kill by Rudy Frenadez it was until Kobe lock him down and took over the game score 12 points in the 4thq for the USA to win the gold medal
@@ercushkakulmetov7458 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Team USA would have been knocked out of the semi-finals without Steph. Durant coming back helped the offense. Don’t act as if it’s all LeBron. Michael and Kobe never lost in international play while LeBron finished with bronze twice.
@@vineelkesavarapu5736 LeBron got the W against south Sudan and carried them. LeBron needed help sure but it's undeniable he is still the best USA player
@@sttrsp9700 that's cool he still lost to college Dorm Guys in Chris Webber and Grant Hill they had a curfew and They were the future of the NBA the old dream team couldn't match their fast pace
@@darnellwilliams8783 What about right afterwards when he (MJ) got get back and beat those same college boys by 50 don’t leave that important part out.
If this put him ahead of Jordan, what did the Bronze medal do? They're literally trying to put lebron ahead of a guy who has never lost in the Olympics hahahaha.
I would put MJ and Larry Bird above metro no eye of the tiger James. Sorry he just does not have that killer instinct like they had and can't trash talk worth a lick either.
1-0 in the tournament of the Americas and Pan American Games 1-0. All gold medals. So in total he has 4 gold medals while representing the 🇺🇸. To top it off, he has never lost in international competition.
@@Shockwave117yt the reality is anyone with actual basketball knowledge and objectivity would know with a brain cell that LeBron is not on Michael Jordan’s level and never will be the six finals losses prove that Michael Jordan played in a better era and won three championships in a row twice case you LeBron can never change that not even the pathetic fan like Nick Wright
@@Shockwave117yt bro these people are LITERALLY, putting down MJ when the majority of the world, the pros, and the NBA still consistently votes him as the undisputed goat. He also NEVER lost a single international game apparently and surely didnt get multiple bronzes in the Olympics in his name. Lebron is a once in a lifetime miracle athlete and he is amazing and his this special legacy of his lengevity, but the issue is these people keep trying to bring down MJ to celebrate Lebron. That's why people make these posts.
@@chrisrenshaw6372your delusional, “Jordan played in a better era” . Bron went up against prime curry, draymon, and klay a team that had 73 wins and won😂
Just look at shoes. Jordan Brand sold 6 Billion for 2023. Lebron 300 Million in 2023. MJ shoes hauling in over 1900% more than Lebron brand. Why would anyone want a shoe from a player that has been retired for over 20 years if Lebron is the GOAT? Think about it.
Yeah I live Brazil. It is understood with most people here MJ is the GOAT with KOBE probably coming in second. Just on the eye test alone you can’t deny MJ is GOAT, but when you do research you it confirms what your eyes are telling you.
Here is a fun fact, why didn’t lebron wear 23 in Miami? Because the HEAT Organization retired the number 23 because they too recognized MJ as the GOAT.
@@Oc3pO Qualquer tipo de teste se vê que Jordan é o GOAT. Mas tem uma coisa que parece que ninguém percebe. A questão ideológica. As mídias tradicionais, em todo o mundo, são em sua maioria globalistas e esquerdistas. E elas preferem atletas que se alinhem a esse posicionamento. Faz tempo que perceberam que atletas são tão ou mais influentes que artistas, categoria esta que sempre foi usada para o mesmo fim, de viés ideológico, como um instrumento de manobrar massas. Lebron está alinhado com o que estas grandes mídias pretendem e precisam. Recém a ESPN, que faz parte do grupo Disney, uma poderosa mídia globalista e esquerdista, disseminadora da cultura woke, fez a lista dos 75 melhores jogadores da história da NBA. Eles colocaram Jordan em 1º. Se não o colocasse como número 1, seria muita perda de credibilidade. Porém eles fazem o que podem para manter Lebron em evidência e conectado a Jordan, há mais de década, não apenas para ganhar audiência mas também para influenciar o maior número de pessoas. É como a mídia funciona, sempre foi assim, e agora é pior porque resolveram misturar ideologia com desempenho em quadra/campo. A diferença entre Jordan e Lebron é muito nítida. Se estivessem pelo mesmo no mesmo patamar as grandes mídias já teriam coroado Lebron como o GOAT. Any type of test shows that Jordan is the GOAT. But there is one thing that no one seems to notice. The ideological issue. Traditional media outlets around the world are mostly globalist and leftist. And they prefer athletes who align with this position. They realized a long time ago that athletes are as influential or more influential than artists, a category that has always been used for the same purpose, with an ideological bias, as an instrument to manipulate the masses. Lebron is aligned with what these major media outlets want and need. Recently, ESPN, which is part of the Disney group, a powerful globalist and leftist media outlet that disseminates woke culture, made a list of the 75 best players in NBA history. They placed Jordan in 1st place. If they hadn't placed him as number 1, it would have been a huge loss of credibility. However, they do everything they can to keep Lebron in the spotlight and connected to Jordan, for over a decade, not only to gain audience but also to influence the largest number of people. That's how the media works, it's always been that way, and now it's worse because they decided to mix ideology with performance on the court/field. The difference between Jordan and Lebron is very clear. If they were on the same level, the big media would have already crowned Lebron as the GOAT.
I've been following sports for 30 years. I've never seen anything like this Lebron stuff. Never have I seen the media try to tear a player or era down so hard to prop up another. MLB media didn't shit on Ruth and Aaron to hype up Bonds. NFL didn't try rip into Montana or Elway to make Brady look better. This is just surreal to see.
Facts! I noticed that too. Basketball is the only sport where people tear down the legends to prop the current players up. This all started after Lebron won in 2016. It was brewing before then but got outrageous after that. The social media era growing definitely didn’t help.
How can LeBron be in the GOAT conversation when he JUST missed on a MAJOR and probably LAST opportunity to show he can step up and decide the outcome of a high stakes game. But no, Steph, who initially didn’t mean to outshine LeBron had to take over the reigns because he could not live with the idea that he missed a golden opportunity. You could see it in his face during the Serbia game when they were down 13 points halfway the 4th quarter. Stephen Curry is a winner. LBJ is great, but a weak opportunist when facing a real challenge.
@@Al-RudigorFacts. This is why building a superteam sealed his fate. Even if he won all 10 titles he’d have been the best player in name only and true fans would’ve still believed he cheated the game… because he did.
@@kirbyaugustine761 he never should have done the Miami thing. This is what caused GS to go get KD. The two chips they won with him sealed Lebron's fate. He can never be the goat.
How many times is he going to "pass" MJ?? It feels like he's been passing him every other year for like 10 years, but then still has to pass him the next year with his next accomplishment.
It's because the media wants to keep us focused on bickering back & forth over trivial things like who's better out of the top basketball players available. It's how the 1% control the rest of us. It's called Divide & Conquer tactics, which they then apply hegelian dialectic to. Channels like this buy right into it and help them
Talk about moving the goal post that they're putting a gold medal in the Olympics and in season tournament banners above actual NBA championships in the argument to MJ vs Lebron 😂😂
Didn't those LBJ super fans always belittle championships and gold medal achievement as " team effort " when we compare the rings? And now all the sudden it's not the case when it's about LBJ as he has more gold medal than MJ? MJ is 2 for 2 in the Olympics, how about LBJ? The double standard is beyond delusional at this point.
@@ercushkakulmetov7458 first of all dude stop dreaming LeBron will never never pass michael Jordan when it comes to basketball ball and my damn grammar is good i meant what I said in never never never .
@@cherimoneeboone7127tell that to the LeBron fans. Why doesn’t it have KD pass him? He only has 2 rings and 2 finals MVPs less than LeBron right? Who does LeBron “only” have 2 rings and 2 finals mcps less than? One more gold medal clearly closes that gap 😂😂😂
Mj has 6 rings 6 finals mvp 5 MVPs 14 time all star 11 all nba 9 all nba defensive Dpoy 10 scoring titles Rookie of the Year First player in nba history to have 200 steals and 100 blocks in two seasons btw The only player in nba history to average 40 points per in finals history!!!
This so brain dead, if Lebron truly passed Jordan you don’t Have to continue to talk about but because they always say “Lebron just passed Jordan” every time he receives a hollow award. You know it complete bs, sounds like they’re trying to convince themselves about the stuff they’re paid to say.
Truth and fact only need to be told once, lies and delusions need to be constantly reminded by those who believes in them, like drugs if you ask me, they need to keep on taking them so they can remain " high " on the matter.
I can't imagine the level of fortitude of MJ's mind, having guys trying to put him down for no reason, cashing money and credibility just because of his name. Trust and believe that when he retires as soon as he gets criticised LeBron will publicly cry, I mean just look at his cryptic tweets and posts.
"I'm not trying to sound unpatriotic but I care more about LeBrons legacy than team USA." We all aren't surprised Nick feels that way but imagine saying that ish with such confidence. I can't imagine that Klutch discount could be THAT big. Nick is such a simp he'd buy LeBrons bath water and drink it before he worked out like Bugs Bunny miracle drink in Space Jam. Additionally that #3 ranking on Nick's list was what sealed it for me. And before anyone says that I hate it just because he was third that's not the case. I actually don't get to flustered at someone ranking MJ at #3 even if I think he's #1. As long as your argument isn't based on petty BS. To be fair I thought he'd have MJ lower. Go back and listen to his MJ rank video and listen to the insane level of spite he has making it. No video in his listing has more negative points in his top NBA players video than his MJ one. My problem with his reasoning was that he went out of his way to bring in HS and college accolades into his best NBA player discussion. And he did it to justify putting Kareem above MJ but then ignored HS and college achievements against LeBron. I said it when the MJ video came out that Nick made more of a case for Kareem being number #1 IF he included non-NBA accolades. And like I predicted he didn't hold Kareem's insane HS and College resumes against LeBron.
Bruh Lebron got carried by Kobe in his last Olympics. And now we all know there's no gold medak for Lebron without Steph Curry going off in the semis and finals.
@@Blackvez20 LeBron was the best player this Olympics. Curry went off here and there but LeBron was doing everything else and even came clutch against south Sudan. Team USA was already up, curry didn't save em
It doesn't matter to y'all since they won but best believe if team USA lost, y'all would have laughed and brought it up every opportunity y'all get. Matter fact, some of you rooted AGAINST you're own country hoping that they lost because of your hatred of LeBron James 😂😂😂
@@sameenergy9414no fucking shit. They were heavy favorites and expected to win. Same energy as anyone had toward KD on the Warriors and LeBron on the Heat. Stupid ass logic. Think for more than a second next time 😂
Scoring titles alone do not determine whether or not you dominated your era. On the list of things that count towards that, scoring titles are pretty low compared to other accolades. If Jordan still had those 10 scoring titles but only 1 or 2 championships, he would not have been or be considered dominant.
Lebron only played 82 games once in 22 years and he sat out just because he only look to keep his average for his career that what matters cause he know he can’t win another championship
The more they desperately try to make Lebalco better than MJ the worse the case becomes. Years from now it will become apparent the level of desperation there is right now by the Leclutch PR machine to make LeFlop the goat.
LeSPN (ESPN) Top Athletes of the 21st Century (2000 - 2024) ranked LeBron James at #4 because they ranked Michael Phelps (#1), Serena Williams (#2), and Lionel Messi (#3), above LeBron James is only #4. Kobe Bryant was ranked #10. LeSPN (ESPN) Top Athletes of the 20th Century (1900 - 2000) ranked Michael Jordan #1, above Babe Ruth (#2), Muhammad Ali (#3), Jim Brown (#4), and Wilt Chamberlain was (#13). So nobody was a better athlete than Michael Jordan because Michael Jordan was greater and better than everybody in the entire 100 years of the 20th-Century, yet three (3) other athletes are better than LeBron James in only the first 24 years of the 21st-Century. Look at the distance between LeBron James and the VERY next basketball player (Kobe Bryant) in their era, and look at the distance between Michael Jordan and the VERY next basketball player (Wilt Chamberlain) in their era. There are 5 athletes between LeBron James and Kobe Bryant in their era, and there are 11 people between Michael Jordan and Wilt Chamberlain in their era. The distance between Michael Jordan and whoever you have at #2, in regards to professional basketball, is the distance between Michael Jordan and Wilt Chamberlain on this ESPN list. Case closed. GAME OVER!!! CM PUNK ANNIHILATES LEBRON JAMES SAYS HE DOESN’T DESERVE MJ COMPARISONS “KOBE IS CLOSER TO JORDAN” ESPN ranked the Top 100 professional athletes since 2000 aka the Top 100 pro-athletes of the first 24 years of the 21st Century: 1) Michael Phelps, 2) Serena Williams, 3) Lionel Messi, 4) LeBron James at only number #4, 5) Tom Brady, 6) Roger Federer, 7) Simone Biles, 8) Tiger Woods, 9) Usain Bolt, 10) Kobe Bryant. However, when ESPN ranked the Top 100 professional athletes since 1900 to 2000 aka the Top 100 pro-athletes of the entire 100 years (the whole Century)of the 20st Century: 1) Michael Jeffrey Jordan easily won the #1 spot, 2) Babe Ruth, 3) Muhammad Ali, 4) Jim Brown, 5) Wayne Gretzky, 6) Jesse Owens, 7) Jim Thorpe, 8) Willie Mays, 9) Jack Nicklaus, 10) Babe Didrikson, 11) Joe Louis, 12) Carl Lewis, 13) Wilt Chamberlain, 14) Hank Aaron, 15) Jackie Robinson, 16) Ted Williams, 17) Magic Johnson, 18) Bill Russell. So Michael Jordan is the #1 GOAT of the whole 20th Century, and LeBron James is only the #4 Player of the 21st Century. 👀
Typical mainstream media moving the goalpost yet again. How many times are they gonna repeat that *blank* makes LeBron finally pass MJ? It's ridiculous. It feels like they say this every year, and yet, MJ is never passed, huh? 🤔 Curry saved LeBronze repeat. It is what it is 🤷♂️
Nothing negative affects Lebron’s legacy like getting swept in the first round of the playoffs or Finals in his “prime” but everything’s that’s positive is suppose to make him better than Jordan? 😂 These clowns couldn’t be more predicatable.
It's not, it's still about how dominant player can be in his era. Stats padding is useless as it has different meaning in different era. It would be probably same as saying being milionare now and 40 years ago is same. While the average salary was 3-4x times lower than nowadays
3 gold medals with a Bronze medal & 6 NBA Finals losses. LeFaker is a lamb, not a & cedtainly not THE G.O.A.T. LeFaker never showed up in a gold medal game, did he? Can I just smack Nick Wrong now?
LeBron’s one scoring title does not beat 10 scoring titles and Michael has the highest scoring average in NBA history for both regular season and the playoffs so saying LeBron beats him in scoring is absolutely positively absurd. Michael Jordan is the greatest score in history and the eye test says LeBron doesn’t have a bag.
Jordan didn't need the Olympics to prove he was the GOAT, the fact that LeBron is in his what? 22nd season?, And they still have to try and come up with reasons why LeFraud is the GOAT LMAO, they are grasping at straws everytime 😂😂 Jordan basically played 13 full seasons, 11 with Bulls and won 6 rings, TWO 3PEATS, not to mention all the other accolades we all know he racked up.
Obviously, because he only won gold thanks to Curry saving him against Serbia and France. They didn't get that Curry's legacy was enhanced by these Olympics, not LeBron's. LeBron was posterized and looked like an old lady, before having a pathetic 2 points and 4 turnovers in the fourth quarter of the final game.
Any player other than LBJ won the NBA championship ------ it's a team effort, no big deal. LBJ won anything ------------------- LBJ is so great, they won because of him, he deserve all the credit, if you don't agree then you are a hater. The delusion.🤣🤣🤣
But Michael Jordan won his 2nd gold medal at AGE 29. LeBron James just won his 3rd gold medal at AGE 39. And Michael Jordan has NO silver and bronze medals. LeBron James was the #1 reason that Team USA won the bronze medal in 2004. Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant won their 5th NBA Championship rings in their 30s, before AGE 40. And NOW LeBron James can only win his 5th NBA Championship ring at AGE 40 or older. Michael Jordan won his 5th Ring at AGE 34 and Kobe Bryant won his 5th Ring at AGE 31. LeBron James has only 4 Rings at AGE 40. Michael Jordan won his 4th and 5th NBA Regular Season MVPS in his 30s, before AGE 40 …. LeBron James did not win even ONE NBA Regular Season MVP in his 30s. This means that LeBron James played in the NBA for 10 CONSECUTIVE YEARS (a WHOLE DECADE) without winning EVEN ONE SINGLE Michael Jordan Regular Season Most Valuable Player Award. Michael Jordan won 2 League MVPs in his 30s, before AGE 40. And NOW it’s too late for LeBron James to win his 5th Regular Season MVP in his 30s because LeBron James will be 40-years-old when the next Michael Jordan Regular Season MVP Award-voting takes place.
Was LeBron actually the number one reason that Team USA won bronze in 2004, or is that just what you're saying to make your point? He wasn't even the leader of that team, and he was fresh off of his rookie season. Not to mention that he wasn't even getting real minutes from what I've read.
You’re proving in his prime he was a loser showing up to lose is not considered being great he has paid people and some people like following the crowd instead of watching a game instead of highlights
He's certainly not an "all time" anything. I'd argue, he isn't even the best of his generation. Kobe and Duncan were better, the first half of his career. Curry, KD better, the second half, then throw in Gianni's, Jokic. An entire generation, brainwashed by the media. Incredible.
Wow so he passed mj in the Olympics, but let's not talk about the bronzes he has or how curry and kobe had to bail him out. And it's still 6-0 against his 4-6.
Nothing will put that fake anything above even Kobe. Much less Jordan. And. As someone else said. The fact that they keep trying to push the narrative proves be isn’t. What will Nick wrong do when Lebalco retires. Look at stats nick. They say lebron is not even top ten. Facts and numbers done rile. Your opinion is false. He has bronze medals. How is that even good.
I appreciate this video. Not sure how many times you tell others to do their own research, and to not even take YOUR word for your opinions. Great work!
Can’t see how ppl are tired of Skip and not Nick Wright…. The fact that you keep having to bring Jordan up is ridiculous. One title counts as 2 is insane, just diminishing player after player to prop this guy up is dirty.
I take it all with a grain of salt. Nick Wright is a Klutch client and now so is Broussard. Shannon Sharpe is great friends with LeBron, JJ Reddick podcasted with LeBron and got a coaching job out of it. Windhorst went to the same high school as LeBron and also grew up in Akron. Every guy who praises LeBron rises up the ranks so it's a great career move... which only makes others do the same. This includes RU-vidrs, other podcasters, ESPN and Fox Sports employees, etc. The only guy who has kept it honest all this time is Barkley, both regarding MJ and LeBron. Unfortunately, there's only one Barkley.
The steals and blocks only tell half the story about MJ's Defense. He was everywhere, way beyond what the stats say. He was the main reason why the Dream Team dominated. He simply put pressure on the opponents, derailing their offensive schemes, forcing them into tough shots, tough passes, getting them out of rhythm and destroying their game plan when he was on the court. That drove his other teammates to not only step up their defensive intensity, but allowed them to also get easy steals due to the pressure MJ put on the opponents. If MJ didn't directly get the steal, he forced the opponents into a situation in which his teammates got a steal or a block. He forced the opponents into tough shots which were essentially a block.
They say this every fucking time LeBron achieves some new milestone. What they fail to also mention is that some of these accolades were created just for him to claim. Nobody was doing that for MJ or Kobe or Timmy, etcetera. Only for LeBron…now why is that?
Any argument they make is completely invalid, due to a simple fact that they THEMSELVES keep talking how Bron surpassed MJ with every accolade he achieves. Had he really passed MJ, they would've stopped arguing long ago. 😊
Again? Question? If they REALLY believed that why do they say every week, "NOW Lebron has passed Jordan" There isn't a neuralizer big enough to make us forget 2011, all the flops, the failures. Remember we were all "witnesses"
Few months and LeMediaNarratives will tell us Bronny deserve retired jersey for Lakers. Articles like "Differently than guys like Derek Fisher and Lamar Odom, the beloved son of the greatest player ever, entering the league under the highest amount of scrutiny ever, showed us the highest coefficiency of (invented useless stat) bla bla bla"
What's crazy to me is the first guy I saw is Nick Wright...who says LeBron has passed MJ at least once a month. If he believes it that's great BUT if he believes...he don't gotta say it on a regular basis. I believe Jordan is the GOAT and will never be surpassed I don't go around saying it every opportunity I get. If the UnKlutch Clients were smarter they'd realize how dumb they are
With LeBron getting his third gold medal, he’s still behind MJ in individual accolades won. MJ is at 36 to LeBron’s 20. Add that Olympic MVP that never existed in MJ’s time and LeBron is still at 21. NBA championships and gold medals are still TEAM accomplishments. And this is LeBron playing an extra 5-7 more years. Michael Jordan has more individual accolades than Tom Brady. LeBron keeps winning awards and he’s still behind MJ! Michael Jordan * 6× NBA champion (1991-1993, 1996-1998) * 6× NBA Finals MVP (1991-1993, 1996-1998) * 5× NBA Most Valuable Player (1988, 1991, 1992, 1996, 1998) * 14× NBA All-Star (1985-1993, 1996-1998, 2002, 2003) * 3× NBA All-Star Game MVP (1988, 1996, 1998) * 10× All-NBA First Team (1987-1993, 1996-1998) * All-NBA Second Team (1985) * NBA Defensive Player of the Year (1988) * 9× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1988-1993, 1996-1998) * NBA Rookie of the Year (1985) * NBA All-Rookie First Team (1985) * 10× NBA scoring champion (1987-1993, 1996-1998) * 3× NBA steals leader (1988, 1990, 1993) * 2× NBA Slam Dunk Contest champion (1987, 1988) Total = 71 LeBron James * 4× NBA champion (2012, 2013, 2016, 2020) * 4× NBA Finals MVP (2012, 2013, 2016, 2020) * 4× NBA Most Valuable Player (2009, 2010, 2012, 2013) * 20× NBA All-Star (2005-2024) * 3× NBA All-Star Game MVP (2006, 2008, 2018) * 13× All-NBA First Team (2006, 2008-2018, 2020) * 3× All-NBA Second Team (2005, 2007, 2021) * 4× All-NBA Third Team (2019, 2022-2024) * 5× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2009-2013) * NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2014) * NBA Rookie of the Year (2004) * NBA All-Rookie First Team (2004) * NBA scoring champion (2008) * NBA assists leader (2020) Total = 65 Kobe Bryant * 5× NBA champion (2000-2002, 2009, 2010) * 2× NBA Finals MVP (2009, 2010) * NBA Most Valuable Player (2008) * 18× NBA All-Star (1998, 2000-2016) * 4× NBA All-Star Game MVP (2002, 2007, 2009, 2011) * 11× All-NBA First Team (2002-2004, 2006-2013) * 2× All-NBA Second Team (2000, 2001) * 2× All-NBA Third Team (1999, 2005) * 9× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2000, 2003, 2004, 2006-2011) * 3× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2001, 2002, 2012) * 2× NBA scoring champion (2006, 2007) * NBA Slam Dunk Contest champion (1997) * NBA All-Rookie Second Team (1997) Total = 61 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar * 6× NBA champion (1971, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988) * 2× NBA Finals MVP (1971, 1985) * 6× NBA Most Valuable Player (1971, 1972, 1974, 1976, 1977, 1980) * 19× NBA All-Star (1970-1977, 1979-1989) * 10× All-NBA First Team (1971-1974, 1976, 1977, 1980, 1981, 1984, 1986) * 5× All-NBA Second Team (1970, 1978, 1979, 1983, 1985) * 5× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1974, 1975, 1979-1981) * 6× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (1970, 1971, 1976-1978, 1984) * NBA Rookie of the Year (1970) * NBA All-Rookie First Team (1970) * 2× NBA scoring champion (1971, 1972) * NBA rebounding leader (1976) * 4× NBA blocks leader (1975, 1976, 1979, 1980) Total = 68 I’ll give one extra point to LeBron for being the all-time scoring leader which was never listed for Kareem when he still held the record. So LeBron is at 66, still behind MJ and Kareem. Michael Jordan played only 12 full to close to full seasons, 11 with Chicago. He only played 18 regular season games in 1986, 17 in 1995, and 60 in 2002. He played 5-6 seasons less than Kareem, Kobe, and LeBron and still accomplished more. If you want to include college and even high school, then Kareem is the most accomplished basketball player. But MJ is the most accomplished player in NBA history, hence, the G.O.A.T. We forget MJ has his jersey retired by two franchises, one he never played for! Trophies and medals only…. Michael Jordan Championships: 6 MVP: 5 Finals MVP: 6 All-Star MVP: 3 Rookie of the Year: 1 Defensive Player of the Year: 1 Scoring champion: 10 Gold medals: 2 (excluded FIBA) Slam Dunk contest champion: 2 Total = 36 LeBron James Championships: 4 MVP: 4 Finals MVP: 4 All-Star MVP: 3 Rookie of the Year: 1 Scoring champion: 1 Gold medals: 3 Total = 20 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Championships: 6 MVP: 6 Finals MVP: 2 Rookie of the Year: 1 Scoring champion: 2 Total = 17 Kobe Bryant Championships: 5 MVP: 1 Finals MVP: 2 All-Star MVP: 4 Scoring champion: 2 Gold medals: 2 Slam Dunk contest champion: 1 Total = 16 + 1 for being an Oscar winner Now championships are considered a team accomplishment but the Larry O’Brien trophy is what all great players try to play for every season. Kobe has that unique distinction of being an Oscar winner. While Cap still had one of the greatest cameos ever for a movie ✈️ . Even if I subtracted all of MJ’s 10 scoring champion trophies and left the ones for LeBron, Kobe, and Cap intact, MJ still ahead with 26. I can subtract his slam dunk trophies and he’s still at 24. I’m subtracting from MJ and he’s still ahead of everybody while they all played longer than he did!! Kareem never won a gold medal or All-Star MVP. People say MJ played in a weak decade called the 90s but what about Kareem? He won most of his MVPs in the 70s when the better talent were in the ABA. Why do we always take away from Jordan but not for anybody else? Kareem didn’t start winning again until Magic showed up. Prior to Magic, Kareem underachieved with the Lakers. Michael Jordan is the most accomplished *player* in *NBA* history. Don’t let the media tell you otherwise. He has more trophies than Ben-Hur (1959) and Titanic (1997) won Oscars combined. *The* *GOAT* *Award* *Winner* 1985 Rookie of the Year 1987 Scoring champion 1988 Scoring champion 1988 Defensive Player of the Year 1988 MVP 1989 Scoring champion 1990 Scoring champion 1991 Scoring champion 1991 MVP 1991 Finals MVP 1992 Scoring champion 1992 MVP 1992 Finals MVP 1993 Scoring champion 1993 Finals MVP 1996 Scoring champion 1996 MVP 1996 Finals MVP 1997 Scoring champion 1997 Finals MVP 1998 Scoring champion 1998 MVP 1998 Finals MVP Total = 23 (makes total sense) Ben-Hur won 11 Oscars. Titanic won 11 Oscars. MJ won 23 trophies not including Larry O’Briens, All-Star MVPs, slam dunk contests, and gold medals. Still the greatest player to ever touch a basketball. MJ, Magic, & Bird = 14 championships LeBron, Steph, & KD = 10 championships Except KD teamed up with Steph to win his two. I really hate how ESPN tries to urinate on real legends’ legacies to raise this current crop of annoying assholes and showboaters. This generation is the most unlikable group of NBA players we’ve ever had. F**k them all. All a bunch of imposters. They do nothing to make fans want to root for them. Just jack threes and flex in front of everyone and social media. I haven’t seen one NBA game since the playoffs. I don’t plan to watch an NBA game for several years. I’m good with my movies and TV shows. The real NBA died in 1998 to me. It’s a silly game you can play in grade school during recess. But ESPN tries to make them into superheroes when they’re a bunch of overpaid, spoiled brats with weak personalities. F**k the new NBA. Glad the ratings are falling. Doesn’t deserve our money. The NBA is RIGGED, anyway. Cheat their way to give these fraudulent goats something to accomplish that the previous gen didn’t.
Does he really have to do that self-crowning gesture when he feels like it? IMO it reeks of narcissism, and in this case it’s as if he thinks he’s the only guy who’s done his job to bag that gold.
