NEVER AGAIN! Why are all Volkswagen's just TROUBLE!! 

Hi James love your channel. Looking for a bit of advice on pre-owned cars. Something reliable hassle free if there is such a thing 😁. Thinking cars like Kia, Hyundai, Suzuki etc. Any advice would be much appreciated. Every success with the business and channel.

@@ColonelJGHyde Nissan, Nissan and Nissan bud lol! Petrol, not diesel, small petrol 1.2, 1.4. 1.6. Go for good service history and a manual gearbox.

@@ChopsGarage Thanks very much mate. Appreciate it 😁👍

Did it have a service history? I think any make of car (not justVW) with 150k miles and no service history would be a money pit.

The whole engine worn but there is a know issue with the valve guides not being sufficient and damageing the valves and value seat's

From my experience I couldn't agree more. Most German cars are similar too. Planned obsolescence.

I’ve have a VW Caddy. Had it since new, never has a van spent so much time back at the dealers to have faults rectified. They’ve even tried blaming me for one of them. I’ll never have another.

I agree - German cars built up a reputation when they were up against some ropey old junk from Austin etc - thing is the Japanese then the Koreans have come into the fray and just build a better more reliable car - ALL German makers rely on a reputation that has long since expired

100% fact

@Integrale DMY jtd engine is great

Our VWs have been great, always looked after and serviced on time😁 unreliable - I wouldn’t agree. Not resistant to neglect - definitely.

@@reececollison5101 I've had German cars years and they have steadily got worse on me. My 80s and 90s vws and audis were great but my mk6 golf, with perfect service history and known ownership from new was a fragile expensive thing to keep. Now gone to honda

You are absolutely right. I had a work-mate with a 90's Golf back in the day and he was always banging on about VW quality. Then the PLASTIC pulley tensioner wheel on his timing belt broke and destroyed his engine. The clown then went and bought himself another golf after moaning about it. When I heard the pulley was made out of plastic I couldn't believe that they were cutting corners like that. Now they have plastic sumps and all kinds of money saving nonsense. I wouldn't touch a german car.

Merc, VW, Audio, BMW all living on past reputations for reliability.

@@superseven220 lets be fair.. a lot of if not all manufacturers are cheeping out arnt fussed about how long the car lasts as long as it survives the warranty

Cylinder Compression Test both 'Dry' and 'Wet' would help to point to the Health of the Engine that and the use of a Air 'Leak Down TESTER' could nail it to see whether it's Valves or Rings ...Great Upload...ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Z1Bllwk9lmU.html

Oil rings are clogged up, known issue.

@@adeburton4885 That's what I said, but also the valve stem seals will also need replacing 100% no way would it be just the rings that have worn out after so many miles, hence me saying both items will need replacing, probably a general recon needs to be done including the big ends no doubt. But if a garage wanted to save money they could try one of those additives as a temporary fix lol, but Chop's won't do that as he's plastered the problem on the internet 😄😄

After buying and selling cars from BCA for over 40 years I can’t believe Chops Garage is foolish enough to by high mileage small engined vehicles without seeing them,all BCA site’s are now closed for live auctions so it’s impossible to evaluate the condition of the vehicles before bidding on them,vehicles of that age and mileage are sent to Auction from main dealers and others only because of one thing and that is they are generally unfit for retail sale either bodily or mechanically. If he could have been at the side of the vehicle when it was started up he would have seen the oil smoke and then bid accordingly, he’s not on his own I’ve bought some disastrous vehicles lately and bitterly regretted the price I’ve paid for them because of the cost of putting them right or fit for sale. For him to offer a Warranty on these tired old vehicles he must be of his tiny mind,thing’s are very difficult at the moment and likely to get a lot worse before it gets better and every dealer is looking at cutting costs to survive anyway they can and this is a classic example of a dealer bailing out by sending it to auction making it someone else’s problem and Chops Garage have ended up with that problem and either he stands the cost of repairs or looses money on it,he can’t win no matter what he does now.

@@davidellis279 Agree 100%, he is learning the hard way, but hopefully he will leave these older cars alone and move onto something a bit younger.

I agree.

150k? Valve stem seals get hard by then, a shi..t of a job on some models, not so bad on others but special tools recommended on most, TDIs especially.

Totally agree. You win some, you lose some. That's the game you play in the motor trade

I concur.

I agree that I like honda

I agree, the engine does not sound healthy.

The 1.2 3 cylinder gets piston slap on the middle cylinder due to a bad design

But it's done 150k, it's a grenade with the pin out? It's only a matter of time before the next issue?

Waist of time doing the seals at 150k, the valve guides will be worn badly as well. Replacing the seals may cure it for a few hundred miles and then the problem will reappear. Wet and dry compression test should confirm where the problem lies or though it's going to have general wear and tear at that mileage. Check breathing system first.👍

@@jonathandeeley6276 I’ve done loads on cars that have done that mileage, the seals have hardened with age.

Feed rope into the cylinders through the plug hole.

Cheers buddy!

@Lookup2Wakeup . Happened to my dad almost 50 years ago - Ford main dealer forgot to tighten the engine sump plug, engine went bang. The MD called my dad into his office and sacked the guy who serviced it and the service manager in front of my dad. - dad was actually mortified that they lost their jobs.

Had my 1.6 for 7 years now and returns 80mpg on longer runs with no issues , brilliant motors and great build quality......neglect on the other hand will kill any car.

@@geebee6737 I would say the build quality is strong. Sensors are trash and a lot of cheap bits where you can't see. Yeah most cars are reliable if looked after and they all have weakness too. My experience with pre 2015 VW products including Skoda and Audi is that when they get to a certain mileage all suspension and all sensors will need done. Engines will run and run. To my surprise my current vauxhall astra j which I expected nothing from has been far more reliable than my last Skoda and vw where. 150k and it's still on every original suspension component, only had one set of brakes, due another now. Honestly surprised how solid it's been appart from dpf issues which every car made in last ten years has because they are trash cheat devices that just ruin your car and make it worse on fuel. That's another story though. Absolutely hate them. Even the police and councils are getting them chopped out they are that useless. I used to swear by Skoda Octavia. Mk1 was so reliable and would run and run although had many faults but they wouldn't stop the car. MK2 was decent although ECU was flawed and they used suspension components like oil filters. From what I hear the VW Passat after 2015 are excellent and do big miles. Ones before than not so good. Toyota avensis was the best by far in our line of work but they are weak now since they started putting crappy BMW engines in them. Lots of factors involved though making each car good or bad. My mum has a VW up that's 9 years old now and hasn't went wrong once. I find the bigger and more complex car you buy the less reliable they are now. Sorry for the long rant. Lol

@@thistimeimhere I have the worst Passat ever made, the 3C2 (B6 2007) and it a) has 230,000+ UK miles b) a DPF still fitted c) blows 0.38 on the MOT smoke test, well under the VIN plate figure of a ridiculously low 0.50 for a Euro 4 Tdi d) has plenty of grunt for a 170 e) reasonable fuel economy still over 45 mpg and is fully maintained by me (and occasionally my father). And that is the WORST car they made. All brands have problems most due to poor maintenance.

@@MiracleMitch I agree and most people don't maintain properly and that's the biggest issue buying second hand for me. I've also noticed Arnold Clark where I bought this latest car have not done service work they said they did a few times now. If I didn't check they would have got away with it. Tbh most garages are terrible from and will mess up your car. The longest I've had without a breakdown was when I had the time to maintain my car myself. Also in my job is no point buying new as after 5 years the cars have 200k+ miles on them and are basically worthless, so your just pissing away 20 grand in depreciation. But then second hand cars are a rip off right now also. What I pay 15 grand for I used to be able to get done for 5. So my costs have trippled with newer cars. That's if they don't break. If they do it's thousands normally for these over complex parts to meet emissions. Since emissions replaced quality they have went down hill in terms of quality of part. Although build quality is good, are a lot of cheap plastic shit now that used to be metal. My main issue is how complex and expensive to fix they are. My 20 year old BMW which was top of the range is cheaper in parts than my astra, also far better to drive still. The BMW was a money pit for the first 4 years I had it. Not had anything wrong in last 5 years though. When modern cars break they cost a fortune to fix. Timing belt is now a 700 quid job. Not a 150 one like they used to be for example. Overall my newer cars are pretty reliable but they cost me about twice as much over 5 years as they used to.

If you drive a VW and compare to other cars in their size and price range you may understand.. they have a quality feel with nice interiors and a feeling of solidity and security.

All VW engines seem to like drinking oil

Hope you enjoyed it!

@@ChopsGarage Yes sir. Though I must give you the heads up - The Boys. Even better than your channel

My local VW dealer Lookers is now at £115 PLUS VAT per hour so £138 hourly rate!

Local MB Dealer is £165 plus vat per hour.

I prefer Trebor mints....virgin polo's

Agree totally. I break cars and if have dismantled quite a few "new" Beetles - the mk1 cars - they are terrible, everything is brittle plastic, interiors worn out even at relatively low miles

VW are reliable on the whole. All car manufacturers have cut corners

I'll never own a VW again. I bought a 09 GTI w/ the TSI Engine privately a couple years ago and after 125K miles, I've had problem after problem. Rear main seal, Timing Tensioner, Electrical Issues (Limp Mode currently), Intake Manifold, PCV, even the damn headliner started falling apart. Not only are modern cars complete junk after 100K miles, they especially don't want you working on them, my GTI doesn't even have the fuse diagram on the box's cover. Their some info in the manual, but most of it pretty much says go to the stealership.

To be fair it doesn't sound that good when he was revving it?

I agree.Sounds all wrong.That is the reason so many cars end up in auction.Cut your losses and pass it on.Trouble is they often reappear at retail with loads of old hacks.

Wouldn't it fail an emissions test if it's burning oil?

1.5dci Nissan note bought at 118k miles for £800. Now on 310k miles, oroginal clutch and everything. £30 road tax. Never broken down or needed a part changed. I'm often told about German build quality as I drive by shagged German cars littering the sides of roads with hazards on. Adolph can keep telling himself his beetles are fantastic.

I'm not sure it classes as click bait, if you follow the channel you will see I have been burned by every VW I bought so its entirely accurate on my experience. I sell hundreds of cars of around the same age and without exception VW cause most issue.

Their diesels are one of the best there are. VW petrols are shite at best! They`re not as good as they were and don`t deserve the good reputation they still have.

@@ChopsGarage As a long time VAG owner I can understand why there is a difference in perception between owners of VAG cars and dealers/mechanics. For owners who keep them long term and don’t mind dealing with a few occasional repairs, they’re great as they tend to be very reliable day to day and they’re nice, economical and well built cars. However, they seem to reach points where there will be numerous sudden, random problems, and it’s at these points that people either neglect them, sell them or both, hence why seem to be a pain in the arse for dealers. After a bit of TLC though they tend to be reliable again for a good while. One thing I will concede is that VAG has a piss poor attitude to acknowledging problems. The best evidence of this I can give is that my Rapid had a leaky door seal, a common issue. Upon getting it into the dealer they claimed they’d never seen that problem before. I found that hard to believe as there was a service bulletin for it (VW tries to dodge recalls by using discreet ‘service bulletins’ instead). In fact, I’ve even heard of someone who was having an engine noise issue with their car, (in the warranty period) and they were told it was normal. Shortly afterwards, it sustained engine damage, and they were told it wouldn’t be repaired under warranty and they shouldn’t have ignored the noise!

I'd have to agree that the diesels are pretty solid, however the VAG range of petrol engines around this era are not - I think the title is quite justified!

I think Skoda put their touch into what are essentially VW engines. But too many people today don’t have a clue about weekly checks, they think it’s ok from annual service to service.

I appreciate that!

That says nothing about him. 😉

You just perfectly summed up VAG ownership. You can mostly rely on them, but they also like to throw up weird issues.

The smaller cars never usually made it too those sorts of millages in the past.

Or Toyota, Honda, Suzuki, Mazda

@@01matthewc agree , id stay away from anything german over engineered and were never upto the understanding of electonics.

Or a Ford either, despite their infamous reputation

Being a delivery driver, I was 45 minutes late back from my rounds yesterday because I got stuck in traffic on a 2 lane each way A road either no hard shoulder. The cause, a 22 reg BMW had broken down and the Highways Agency had put a cordon around it.

Cars like that should be taken off the road. I do not relish breathing in someone else's burnt oil fumes. Topping it up should NOT be an option!

I assume it might be a stuck ring that occurred after

Agreed!

@@ChopsGarage Thanks mate , I used to own a 2003 TDI golf that thing got to 200 thousand miles before the gearbox bearings went and that was only cause i never serviced it or it would still be here today lol old VWs were quality

I was sitting getting my car MOT at the VW garage, the amount of customers who came in and reported faults was ridiculous. Many were serious faults and the cars could not be driven

@@matthewsmith2787 Yeah crap they are nowadays

Agreed mate, hope you are well

Yep every modern volkswagen does that

Same for Audi's so assumung same thing for all VAG cars

Yes it’s called safelock for it to be working correctly the red LED in the drivers door has to be blinking when locked and fast blinks when open or closed

@@Robw516 yes for many years now I’ve had 5 Volkswagen in a row and it’s the same and my brothers Skoda is

Yep spot on golfs 6 7 in general have this message and it’s all good, 3 cylinder engines in general suffer with burning oil on very high mileage, and it’s prob been thrashed to within its an inch of its life I recon, get rid in the auction with known fault James

Actually a surprising amount of money now to buy a 10 year old car with 150k on it. People are not realising how old all these cars are now. Paying £4k for a 16 year old car and they expect everything to be perfect.

I'm gobsmacked!!

Bear in mind though when he did the start up test at the beginning on the video he said he couldn't see any blue smoke then either but it was plainly seen by the camera. And that was when the car was standing still, when it's doing 70mph the smoke will dissipate more quickly.

Get a 205litre barrel and sorted for a year

PSA engines easily do over 300k and when you rip them apart they still look new , best engine ever 2.0 cdti imo

Well said. I own a 2007/57 plate 1.2 S 64bhp version. It's done 109,000 miles with a full service history, and it's still very sweet. I drive it very economically.

My brother has a Karoq and I have a t roc and not had a problem at all

2012 Touran 2.0tdi dsg. 90k, not even a screw loose. Always go for biggest engine.

Wow!

Very different engine that though

@@ChopsGarage yes. It's somewhat unfortunate it is the TSI engine. That model VW Polo you have were also available with the 4 cylinder 1.4 16V. These are the last dependable engines in the long run to have.

Most probably was a 1.6 engine in the Beetle, horrible engine compared to the diesel version

I would use it as a daily driver and just top up with used oil (I've got loads of that kicking around)

Thankfully my polo 9n has a 1.6

No coolant is good bud

Also it used to knock the cat out after a year as it sooted up over time

Yep the oil change is an experiment more than solution

Th e1.3 derv is a great engine

agreed

More telling that in my London based VW dealer out of 75 staff THREE drive a VW product.......

? I did not sell a car with a problem. It arose after sale

Daihatsu make the best 3 cylinder engines In the world in my opinion.