NEW Timemore C3S and C3ESP Hand Grinders | Comparison 

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why it shouldnt be used for that, its the same, just finer steps

Same burr set between C3, C3S, and C3 ESP, which is the S2C 660. Even though I only do pour overs at home, I ordered the ESP because I’ll be able to get more specific in dialling in my coffees. You’ll be fine doing pour over with the ESP - just follow the instructions for the grind size adjustments

Look at kingrinder k4 and k6, for the price I would say those are the highest value

why you want 24g of espresso? i think the duration time makes no sense because it depends on how fine you grind and also how fast you can turn. More sense would be how much circles it need

Yes on click 0.5 I saw a video

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Do you feel it’s an easy grind? I have a cheap grinder and I feel like it takes forever to grind 18g for my Aeropress and my hand starts to hurt.

@@W8tNbLEed86 I'd describe it as the same effort for about the a third of the time, with the added bonus of a much better grind!

i got the C3 ESP Pro from amazon now. How many clicks you use for your Espresso? I bought a Delonghi Dedica 685 just for that

@@danbarb9728 I'm using a Flair Signature for espresso might be a bit different, but I have mine at position 0.8 this. the advice is to not go below 0.7

@@ssstbc that could be the case but the Flair signaeture looks interesting. The problem is i have a huge and expensive espresso machine in my kitchen, i even bought custom handles in bird eye maple for it but i lost interest in espresso 10 years ago and the machine stands there just for the looks. I need to invest alot of money for a complete cleaning. I even have an expensive grinder from eureka but Amazon vine offered me the Timemore C3 ESP pro, so i had to buy an espresso machine and in my mind the dedica 685 is a perfect combination, its a budget machine and fits to a manual grinder because of the price. You can get both Timemore and Dedica 685 for about 200 Euro which is amazing and you still make better espresso then the automatic espresso machines for 1000 Euro. The flair signature looks interesting, i can see me buying one because its a manual machine and dont need maintainance, no internal parts that needs to be cleaned and all that. I love the looks of my espresso machine but i dont want to invest the money for the big maintainance and ive heard the copper pipes are not good for your health and all that. A white falir signature and a white niche zero, that would be my choice.

Define "too long".. I have the c3s max and grinding the full 35 grams takes me a minute, so I guess a few seconds more for setting 9 (I rarely grind that small)

I would recommend you start out more course at first for a drip coffee maker to find the grind that the particular machine can handle. If it is too fine, the water will fill and overflow the basket. (I did that once) I use a pour over now and have mine set to a 14 setting on the C3 Pro Max so I would say try around 16? Main thing is not to over fill the basket like I did. 😅

Its 12 steps per full rotation, with 13-16 being timemore's recommended for pour over. But the C3 that I have can go well to 3 full revolutions

@@rchamy94 oh, thank you very much! Right what I needed.

bores are the same so i guess it is only finer setting they added.

The burrs are the same throughout. As far as I understand, they all have the S2C 660 burr set. If you want to do espresso, get the C3 ESP PRO because the dial plate has far more clicks per rotation in order to get the right grind size. The C3S won’t be able to get the in-between grind sizes for dialling in your espresso shot even though it’s the same burrs inside

I got a burrset upgrade from Aliexpress way before Timemore offers theirs. Manage to grind beans for actual espresso use. (4 minutes slow and tiring 15g Espresso grind) I guess if you don't mind the common mods and shims needed to do for the alignment on your original C2, then it's a budget upgrade. You do need to spend some time to align the upgrade burrs though since the C2 is famous for misalignment even on stock. I can't see myself buying a C3s after getting that burrset upgrade. If I ever needed one new grinder, I'd jump to Kingrinder K6 or an electric grinder to shave off 4 minutes of my morning grinding 15g beans on espresso setting. But I would recommend getting the C3s if you have no grinder to begin with since it has better alignment now

Yo tengo un C2 y actualicé a rebabas de 7 nucleos y la placa de 30 pasos, lo compré todo por Aliexpress, el cambio fue incleible, antes usaba 10 click para espresos y ahora uso 24 click para 18gr me demoro menos de 40 segundos, antes me demoraba casi 2 minutos

C3: plastic interior C3S/C3 ESP: interior upgraded to milled aluminum All use the S2C 660 burr set. Pro = the folding handle. If the burrs are a drop in replacement for your current C2 burrs, it might be smarter to just upgrade your burrs to the S2C 660 set

I have done Moka with. Definitely suitable for both Espresso or Moka and these are the most difficult to get right. French press and V60 are even easier so no problem at all

How did you configure it for espresso and moka?

They are now very very similar, feel the value of the C3ESP is epic, the X Lite up closer is a slightly nicer finish and build, yet similar in coffee.

@@CoffeePartsTV Alright, I own the X Lite and I really like it. So it doesn't make sense to buy a C3 ESP. Thank you for your answer

If the x lite has the 30clicks I would keep it, if not I rather consider another grinder like the k6

The only difference between the C3 ESP and the C3 ESP PRO is the foldable handle.

Where?

​@@DekiFreestyle Aliexpress prolly

Where did you get it for that price? Its 65 everywhere i look.

@@ivosimic taobao or Amazon mx

Did it work for you and were you able to get enough clicks for a good shot?

@@prisma208 it worked but I rather get a kingrinder K6 or something with 7 edges

I guess it depends on the coffee you use

​@@Prizhokstill abou 25-7 (up to 30 light roast if you not fully attach the handle)

The S model is all metal . The other has some plastic on the inside for support .

it holds 5g more coffee because of the different build materials

S for silicone