Bought a 1 year old one, 2k on the clock. Saved a third o the list price. Cheaper tax and insurance than audi and more stylish. Very happy with it and plan to keep it forever
Lol I just drove one before hahah. My dad bought a white one 3-4 months ago, we had a Jetta 8.5 yrs well looked after and got written off then dad bought the Arteon amazing car very smart well priced and for its size it gets up and moves. We all love it, myself Mum and of course dad :) It has the styling pack so 20 inch wheels, sunroof and upgraded stereo awesome car
Just a few corrections: -> A4 is MLB.Evo, A5 is MLB, - which are longitudinal engine placement platforms. VW Arteon is MQB, and the engine sits transversely. Not the same. maybe that explains the difference in comfort even better. -> The interior of the Arteon is actually most like the Passat's. The analog clock is therefore not unique to the Arteon.
It is truly to my eyes one of the best looking cars on the road. Pricing in SA is tough, but consider it as a Golf R with a GT body rather than a performance Passat and it makes a little more sense. You could compare it to the Audi A4/5 but neither at the price point will give the all wheel drive or power figures. Compare the Passat to an Audi A4 and you have a clear winner as a value proposition, but it's never been a great seller and I fear neither will the Arteon. We expect our Volksies cheap!
The Arteon in Poland starts at +- R460.000 with a 1,5TSi 110kW engine, 6 speed manual box and front wheel drive and... it doesn't ride on 20" rims... :) wonder why VWSA doesn't bring the cheaper models of the Arteon range to SA. Surely that would boost the sales without being common?
But you do touch on the question many manufacturers answer wrongly and then cancel sales in this country when the car isn’t successful. People want certain things that carmakers intentionally ignore then scratch their heads when cars fail to sell. This is a stunning car still, but it’s tough to convince people to ignore the “premium” germans for the price they’d pay for this.
@@mlulekideandladla There are luxury cars, there are budget cars, but there are also just normal car as well. This is not a luxury car. This is just a normal car. I have one of these with a 2.0, 140kW engine. It’s just a normal car. Better looking than my previous Passat B8, but still not a luxury car. I guess the pricelist as of February 2022 in SA proves a point. I don't see the Arteon in the SA pricelist anymore. I guess other people also realised that this is not a luxury car and just didn't buy it. This time VWSA not only shot their foot. They took the whole knee cap off... :) :)
It's too expensive but man it looks good with black wheels and gold paint. I don't see the problem with having Golf 7 bits in it. Golf 7 is a quality product unlike the Focus
It's not the same MLB platform as Audi A4/A5. It's based off the MQB - same as golf/Audi A3 etc. If you look at the engine bay the engine is placed transversely as opposed to longitudinally in the Audi A4/A5.
Thank you for your review. I am in the US and patiently waiting for the release of the Arteon in late summer. I am also looking at a $50k pre-owned '18 Audi A4 (with less than 10k miles). Pricing I have seen for the A4 currently ranges from $36.5k to $40.5k. If the Arteon is priced in that range, it will be hard for me to spend that much on a NEW VW. Knowing that most interior parts come from the Golf, it will be a tough decision. I am looking to purchase an AWD or 4 Wheel Drive car, but I am not set on just sedans. My ideal budget is not more than $35k in a couple of months. Time will tell.
I forgot to mention that certain features are a must such as: heated leather seats, heated steering wheel, upgraded sound system with sub woofer, advanced safety features like blind spot monitoring, forward collision warning and braking, keyless entry with remote start (at no extra cost), nice wheels, and reliable.
Just a tip: If you're gonna make car review videos, when describing the car's practicality and how much stuff you can throw in, instead of showing a profile view of you opening the boot, you should actually show the inside of the boot. Same for other things you mention, like the rear leg room.
It's really a likable car... I'd choose it over its rivals really coz it's refreshing and different but at that price I'd wait for the upcoming Touareg...
I see there are many, I mean too many people who commented on this cars resale value back then, please comment below to let us know what you think now. It seems like it is performing better than it's equivalents of the time on its resale value. High mileage examples are going 470- R500k. Low mileage ones are selling anywhere from R 550k-R699k depending on spec and how low the mileage is. Now compare to this to the equivalents...
I watched this video twice and just got that joke at the end. The VW accountants said, yeah, go find some parts and make it cheaper, then they all got in their Audis and went home. LOL! Great one!
We’re do u get this info from? The Arteon Is certainly not based on the Audi A4 or A5? Audi is based on the MLB platform were this is based on MQB? Hence the different ride quality..
Love to see review of 2023 version vs c class and a5, in Australia you can get a full spec arteon for 72k, a5 low spec 85k or loaded is 100k (discouned prices) c200 is 85k and c300 well over 100k and merc are now fixed price
So the downside for this car really is price... I think if it was 500k with all the additions than it'd be a perfect option if you wanted something different than a BMW, Audi, Merc
I would any day rather take the most expensive Passat - it's about R40 000 cheaper than the entry level Arteon. The interiors are very similar and that's what matters most to me. What I really don't like is that satnav is extra on both models. BMW now includes satnav as standard on all their new cars.
And when ciro said this is the front door i thought he was going to open the bonnet, i love how this arteon's bonnet is designed and how "out of this world" it opens.
As someone who also doesn't reaaaaly identify with the usual luxury brands, I used to love the CC. But for 700k plus, I'd bargain with Volvo to give me a new S90 diesel sedan, instead of a Passat that consulted a grooming expert.
Geno Chetty the cabin is nothing like the Passat. The cabin is a carbon copy of the mk7.5 gti and R. Basically what this car is is a golf R sedan. And when you think of it that way it actually makes sense.
I think it’s a better choice than The Golf R because it’s the same performance and it’s a bigger and more stylish sedan only for R35k extra.It might be better than the A4 and 3 series but still it won’t sell like the fusion and cc
I'm driving the 2018 Audi A5 252hp. The interior is way better than the Arteon, was thinking to buy the arteon when i was sitting in, it was not the same class like the Audi. The 280hp Arteon drives really well with the awd but its slower than the Audi even it has 28hp more.
I’d buy the Mini S Class ... Yes the C Class for that money! And there’s actually nothing wrong with the build quality of the C Class. You probably managed to get the very few that aren’t built well, something all manufacturers struggle with!
We can't sell a Passat, what should we do? Let's launch and sell a CC at a higher price. Oh damn, we can't sell that too, what now? Let's launch Arteon and price it even higher. This is a great car that never sold
Matthew Savoy it would be great because the car itself is brilliant and VW makes great cars. Has VW regained the acceptance of the consumers in America?
That's a great feedback, nothing happened here in South Africa as well. Sales continued as normal. This Arteon is definitely not going to fly though at that price; Audi is too strong here then you have the popular C Class and 3 Series as options. It will struggle alongside the Infinity, Jaguar XE, etc.
It might be country dependent; here the C Class is one of the best in holding value and would no doubt beat the Arteon hands down in that regard. Also both cars would come with full maintenance plan for at least 5yrs which levels the playing field in maintenance cost. Beyond that, the Merc would still be comparable, unless you have to do a repair, then you would sweat
Damn you drive; you actually circle the earth twice in a year. I only do about 22,000 miles in a year. Anyway I accept that in America a C-Class will drop value much faster than the Arteon. Here if you bought the two cars on the same day and drove the same mileage, after a year the C-Class would still hold a much better value than the Arteon, by a long way
I do wonder how many more vehicles manufacturers would sell if cars were 5-10k cheaper than what they ask for and how much of a profit would offset the cheaper prices. Most cars are not worth the asking price.
Interesting, you say that this will replace the cc, a favorite with the police. My mechanic has been trying to talk me into a used cc to replace my current car, a retired police cruiser. The Arteon is one of those cars that strikes me as trying to be something even tho there is every indication that the manufacturer is desperate that potential customers NOT see it as that something. The (excellent) reviewer uses the word "sporty" several times, yet by virtue of the styling and the price, VW wants customers to see it as a (near) luxury car. BTW, I like the idea of the large(r) sized hatchback sedan, but the rest of the car...? At least from the outside it looks like a Buick but as styled by the Koreans....kind of blah.
This reviewer should not be allowed to review a car since he clearly does not know what he is talking about. The A4 is not even in the same class (size wise) as the Arteon. The Arteon is closer in size to a full size car not an A4. The closest size Audi would be an A7 or A8 and when you compare the size of the vehicles. When the price of those cars is compared with the Arteon then it is clear that the Arteon is the better value.
Clearly VW forgot about the Phaeton disaster and how competing against your own luxury brand Audi is a failure. This car will without doubt have bad resale value with the likes of Passat - that said, its a beaut.
Pete Sandov, kilowatts = horsepower, we generally use the term kilowatts in South Africa and not horsepower. One kilowatt is about just over 1.3 horsepower. He said 700,000 Rands, not ronm, (local currency). Hope that helps
Lol that's the beauty of globalisation. The other day one guy got confused with someone saying it's very hot, it's 32°. He was thinking Fahrenheit but we use Celsius here
If you wouldn’t have bunked science in school you would have known that the unit of power is a watt not a horse.... which is equal to one joule per second....
