2020 Kia Stinger GT vs Volkswagen Arteon R-Line // $50,000 Face Off 

Your intellectualism and word choice originality baffles me, sir.

Love BMW but I kinda agree...

He called the shit poop!

Literally traded in my 335i for a Stinger GT1 haha

Hahahah

it's pretty standard on both cars but fun when u point it out

Grey with red >>>

Like nr. 666 LMAO

Ahhahahah

EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED

I own mine for 6 years and everything is perfect, not even a single bulb changed :)

@@yourvault1612 either lucky 1%, or he/she is in the European market where they're more reliable because they're built with their reliable local parts as opposed to American parts.

@@frazierl7898 oh i wondered what the deal was with Americans saying Volkswagens are unreliable, I’m from Ireland and there’s loads of Volkswagens on the roads here, and no one talks about them being unreliable.

@@SeanWithaFada German cars are notoriously expensive to repair in the US.

@@patrickmartin3322 Yeah and US cars are equally expensive to repair in Europe, lol.

ECN That’s my name Kia Stinger selling horribly = their used car will be cheap even the GT2

That’s good for our broke fellas

@@Happytylermovieproducction lowest I’ve seen a GT stinger that is worth buying is 29k

Don't see it as a true competitor really. One is a purpose built, proper longitudinally mounted drivetrain sport sedan with a V6.. The other is a restyled Passat, with a run of the mill transverse FWD layout and a 4 banger....

@@Happytylermovieproducction definitely not, I’m planning to get this as my first car in a couple months

Davy K The 21 Optima reminds me a lot of a Lincoln MKZ.

SouthSide WhiteBhoy ewww very ugly you should get a Volvo

yonda ila umm no

Amen. Love my Stinger GT

The dealers are so bad and the main thing holding KIA/Hyundai back.

It is much. Should be under $40.000 would sell more too.

@@mr.2cents.846a bmw with the same equipment is like 80-90k

@@mr.2cents.846 I disagree. They would be losing money, they actually give you so much for a lot less than the competition. Arteon isn't is trash, overpriced and slow

Hyundai should change its name to genesis. Kia should change its name to stinger. Toyota should change its name to Lexus. Plus the Camry Corolla and Prius civic accord etc need name changes. And not letters and numbers, actual names.

after you are old enough to have paid off your first car you will develop something called "common sense." so when you see a 50,000$ volkswagen that is slower than a camry, it's Ok to raise an eyebrow.

@@potatochobit Yes well said !!! I would rather purchase a CPO LEXUS BMW MB etc....

@@potatochobit Its a stupid comparison, as the Arteon is more competition for a base Stinger. A base Arteon is $37K are compares favorably to a Kia Stinger GT-line Sun+Sound model for $36K.

@@potatochobit it will fall apart before you have time to pay it off. In here in the US it’s very hard to find a good German car mechanic Plus those parts $$$$$ a lot of the times it’s cheaper to buy a new car and then fix something really stupid especially with BMWs and German cars in general. I’m German I lived in Germany most of my life but when I moved to US and bought an Audi I learned a lot

You must not play any sports

I did not drive the Kia stinger when I bought my Arteon but I have a friend who got a GT2 stinger and really likes it, I just got the VW because it was just a little bit more comfortable and the digital display both for the gauge cluster and infotainment are really intuitive and really nice and have aged well.

Yeah TTRS drivetrain would be awesome for this chassis

Yes. I love the 2.0 TSI (edited from 'EA888' for clarity - though I do believe that is what's in here), but I feel like it doesn't belong in a car of this size and price. Sure, it's a comfort/touring car, but it's begging for more hp/tq (well, potential buyers would be for sure). Edit: Also, I don't really get why they'd go with a detuned or smaller turbo on this flagship. This is a boat, it should at least have the Golf R numbers.

Any car with that legendary engine would be a good buy

@@elikinzie23throw it in a kia soul

I think a 3.0T from audi a6 tuned to around 350 hp would be abetter fit, but if that was the case, y buy pay more for an audi...i see y they kept the 2.0T. I have driven the arteon and for me personally, it did feel underpowered

Chrome ™ this is their show.

Chrome - how is it "underrated" ?? They have over 340k subscribers

YoungMan4Quickie they are a huge hater haha

@@chocolatewheelchair lol

Imho, James makes the show... Thomas can be replaced and I wouldn't miss him one bit.

Looks like a great all rounder.

I’m driving one right now while my Passat is in the shop. I told the service tech that was a clever little plan to get me to just buy the Arteon. He laughed.

You bite with the features of kia, the suspension and engine of kia was average

@@jericlamb2676 You drive a Kia Rio. How is the 3.3t average? It beats Mustang 5.0's and Dodge SRT-8s...

@@user-ie8ud3qw9m n middle east hyundai/kia carried hollow blocks, ur crap stinger can do it too, lexus still king when it comes to reliability, the road here in ph many potholes cant survived the stinger and no spare parts avail

@@jericlamb2676 There is nothing average about the Stinger GT2, and I own a Lexus GS 350.

@@jericlamb2676 An engine built by an ex BMW engineer, that things a beast!

...so?

That’s why he said a great history

@@FumeAbuse mhm

A simple Google search will show he did not.

He did not just help create the company, he actually sketched the Beetle himself working with Porsche… But then the war came and then it was over… the VW plant was in the British sector and in the basement of the bomb damaged factory were enough parts to do a production run of cars. The British army supervised the manufacture and German workers who needed jobs and food to eat built the cars and they sold them, using the money to buy the next round of parts and lineally financed the restart of the company this way… and step by step built VW into the powerhouse it is today… So yes the beginnings were totally ties to Hitler and the Nazi Party but the rebirth has in very real terms been a German Success story with the initial help from and by the British Army, very entrepreneurial and old fashioned hard work… Spoiler alert… I am a JEW… My family lost dozens to the theft and murder of the Holocaust. My Grandfather refused to buy a German car after the war and for the balance of his life.. but Germany today is not Germany of yesterday, Germany has basically donated a fleet of Dolphin Submarines to the State of Israel which are Israels secure second strike capability that effectively guarantees the survival of the Jewish State… My Mother - who was nine years old when the Nazis marched into her home town owns a Volkswagen… I own a Mercedes… Germany today is NOT Germany of yesterday… and neither is Volkswagen. Its beginnings are not its present or its future… If MY Mother can own and drive a VW… well then everyone can get past how the company was founded and by whom… -Dan Abraham Erlich

but then ppl wouldnt buy the A5 or S5.. Right now its a hard sell why arteon when u could go A5.

leonsam84 I agree with you 100%

@@leonsam84 Because the Arteon is bigger than the A5.

​@@leonsam84both the A5 and S5 are now turbo charged. A naturally aspirated R32 V6 would be fun to drive

BASITH PH vw is trash.

@@chocolatewheelchair grow up

2409_ AS lol they are criminal trash. Sorry.

Its a V4 not a V6

@@mr.zoonpolitikon1114 the stinger is v6.

They're almost double that now! Hurrah.

their content is miles beyond dougs snarky reviews

I cannot watch Doug anymore. He is just so annoying and provides very little actual car content and just stupid comments about cupholders and crap like that

I feel like they are the Top Gear of RU-vid. And yeah, I agree they deserve a bit more subs than Demuro. I get tired if hearing about his quirks.

@@LetsDIYIt he didn’t know what a graphic equaliser was in a 1980,s car, so he’s not really a car guy

Because it’s a Kia who like Kia no one they are just debaged Audi which is sad get a Volvo you thank me later

yonda ila but the truth is, you are not affordable for that stinger

@@Yondaily r/swoosh

@@usernonameee lol that's the fact!

Honestly Yes it's a Kia but man it's a beautiful car.

you mean you cant wait for your parents to buy it for you lmao

tice hahaha NO! By school I meant college

@@devambhagat3478 buy a used 2020 model. its so much cheaper plus you get all the improvements from the first two years, and they arent making any major changes from the 2020 one. I have a 2020 gt2 and couldn't be happier.

TRITON honestly I was thinking about a 2020 or a 21 bc I’m graduating in ‘23 so that car will have time to depreciate lol. But that’s nice to hear that u love your car👍🏽

@@juneauclassic I agree with both ideas, I like the 2021 better, but I would buy a 2020 also.

Corn Pop I thank them for using the right system in the first place *shots fired*

it is probably US mpg not UK

@@papn123 Ohhh no come back, Shots taken.

Or you can just make sure that you've installed common sense wheels and tires on your car, because I'm actually the one in charge, not the car manufacturer.

I am too

You guys have internet?

@@varsity2845 oh wow, hehe. Not only internet. The network I'm using (RAIN) soom will be offering 5G.

mbulelo gumede haha that’s awesome. I’m messing with you lo

@@varsity2845 No, we still use carrier pigeons and smoke signals

"Dont curse at me" LOL

Thomas is a watch guy!

Fuck yea and 280 on the dash like fuck!!!

@@martymr.fittness7746 280kph = 173mph

What why?

yonda ila better performance, better looking

@@Yondaily Why? lol really? have u seen the history on VW reliability?

Meee when my passat beeps at 39* degrees 😂😂😂

@@osvaldo8393 bro fr lmfao

Canadians. They are born metrosexual. The manly chromosome is removed before birth.

He was being sarcastic and immediately laughed and admitted "V10s for life". Did you miss that part? How?

@@eleonik76 He's English.... did that escape your notice? The sarcasm did.

@@JS-hw8ve I am not good with sarcasm,my wife is.

@@eleonik76 clearly not very good at critical thinking either

The disadvantages of the platform can be clearly seen on the luxury class VW "Arteon": The Arteon is actually a car made from the Passat and Golf. VW-MQB platform, Modular-Querbau box of a compact car. This also means transverse instead of longitudinally installed engines and 4 cylinders is already over.

Yes it does look amazing

Eric Rodrigues it really does but the price tag hurts

@@haraldschon7794 The RS3 rides on MQB. So what? Just a newer platform.

if only the type R was designed for young adults I would of got one too

Still much better than VW owners "If you don't love my car, you must be a jealous loser!"

Former Forte SX and current GLI driver. What once was a genuine sentiment of pride in the quality and certainly *value* of Korean-made autos has taken off exponentially since the relative success (especially with enthusiasts) of the Stinger, Veloster N, etc.

I've got a 2018 Stinger 2.0L, and love it. But let's face it, the Kia badge screams "thrifty". And then I recently found Korean badges on eBay for under $70, for the hood, the rear, the four wheels, and the steering wheel. I get asked at least once a week, "What kind of car is that?" 😊 I'd be lying if I said that I didn't dig that.

I think the Kia snobbery is fueled or a consequent result of badge snobs shitting on Kia in general.

@@lmp9726 The only thing worse than the Kia badge is replacement 'K' badges. IMO those are all tacky AF, and the designs don't age well.

DazdnConfuzd I was thinking of something similar. I really like elements of both, like the front of the VW, which also emphasizes how bad the front of the stinger looks (and those dumb side marker stripes on the taillights). I’d like to fit the front end/ interior front cabin of the vw, and combine it w the remaining parts of the stinger.

I used to work at a Volkswagen and Kia dealership.Back in the day Kia was terrible but,but now they are pretty good and for Volkswagen I'll never buy.That's just my experience from being around both products.

Arteon R-line 4Motion (all wheel drive) it is! Who needs to drive fast daily? Want to get fast, get a helicopter really. VW are best for daily.

@@DannyGodlewski I read on a stinger forum that the side stripes are due to some sort of regulations and it was more of an after thought to comply with those regulations. I have the panthera metal and will black those out. Should blend well.

@@RIZFERD Until they don't start.

How is the sound system on it?

@@JadaEbong Sound system is fantastic, the DSP effects are just brilliant.

I heard about this rotor problem multiple times

You were all in on the stinger. What’s the experience been like over the last two years??

Noooooo

The Buick Regal's interior doesn't compare well with the Arteon, but it's much less expensive. The best comparison, feature for feature, would be the Arteon and the 4 cylinder Stinger, but that Stinger version would also be thousands of dollars less than the Arteon.

I agree! I would take the Regal over the Arteon in that case. Never been a VW guy but I found this interesting

Ehh, the A5 is quite something else tho.

@@Yondaily Yeeassss.

I own one for that reason

My wife said my next car had to be a 5-seater. So I bought a Stinger. Atomic Blue. Three kids to transport in style!

@Alastors_minion I'm very happy with it.

Alastors_minion I love it, not many people know what it is which I think is awesome . Turns a lot of heads and feels very luxurious with the red interior

The wheels on the Arteon look amazing imo

Bilstein for the win! 🙌🏾

Azera is a very good car.

There's no wood in the new one, and I like it.

D. Ande Ward I agree

D. Ande Ward, I think, generally, people who buy sporty cars aren’t as concerned with getting good fuel economy. Or maybe it’s just me.

Would be! But price for price a Scat Pack would eat this thing in performance and price.

Well this isn't a boat comparison. Just kidding but i think the Stinger is just better for sportive driving on a curvy landroad. The Charger is a cruiser. But both are fucking heavy.

I own a Stinger GT2 but recently went to California and rented a Dodge Charger RT. Performance wise, the Stinger completely destroys the Charger. That said, the Charger exhaust sounds better and it handled pretty well. I am glad I rented it, had some fun with it on some winding roads. It did reaffirm my choice in the Stinger though. The interior of the Charger is crap compared to the Stinger.

@@dmn2273 you constantly see the awd stingers destroying scat pack chargers from a dig. awd is no joke.

We talking about a charger V6 or?

Starting at 1945 VW has a great history

@@johnbacon4997 1938

Made by Fuhrer xD

@@aashishdhawan3824 By Volk for Volk! TBH though, Volkswagen did nothing wrong.

Plus the Arteon has a lot of history and heritage to it. Nobody can buy a Kia, who originally just made below average quality bicycle parts, and think, "Hitler personally created this manufacturer as his dream for a people's car".

arteon got only 4 seaters?

@@bujangterlajak6808 no 5 seater

Arteon is a better looking car, but he Stinger is a better car overall.

depends .. to me the Arteon looks like a squeezed Passat with parts from the box of bricks system VW uses. You find parts from all series of models from Seat, VW, ... all over the place. There's no unique part just used for the flagship only!

I love Doug, but these guys are definitely way less annoying than Doug lol. He’s just so freakin nitpicky

And with way higher production quality. I'm pretty sure Doug films his videos on an iPhone and has minimal editing.

@@TheIceMurder2 yep, he uses his iphone to make videos

@@TheIceMurder2 true, these guys are great.

@@wristoww nah, Doug is great, its just a different approach to car reviews, I personally enjoy both

just go for a stage 1 and boom 370 HP with 480 NM of torque, that's it

@@vladblak and there goes your warranty

​@@vladblaklol no

Ria 🙄 I think you mean rrhea as in diarrhea...

Kevin Hughes ewww

Cliff Wilkins said no one ever

Erm... The Stinger depreciates by the minute 😂

@@samvhell9104 Get a Toyota then.

Every car brand depreciates. Have you checked how much MB cars depreciate?

@@vegarosa69 who cares

Wtf are u talking about

The 2.0 TSi still has timing chain tensioner problems.

I'll never buy a new age Jetta. I'll just stick with my 2011 2.5L Jetta and turbocharge it.

It is the gen 3 ea888 that's found in the golf gti/r. Believe it has the golf r is38 turbo

It's called emission regulations in the EU. Also, that TSI engine is by far not a reliable engine. Also, the interior is exxxactly the same as in a boring Passat. I haven't yet sat in a Stinger, but I give it the props for building a "halo car" that makes you reconsider it.

The motor in this per APR the big VW/Audi tuning company said same motor and turbo as Golf R. So it's not the same motor.... Just same displacement.