New Xbox Hardware: High Prices, Low Excitement Level 

There’s a difference, inflation and the costs not going down but yes I do see what you’re trying to say.

Funny you say this, in my feed guess what’s underneath this video? 😂

The PS5 can buy a beer now, ever hear of inflation?

@@Matt-jc2mlwhat inflation both companies are worth a zillion dollars

@@AlexRocks80s80s And they both want to make another zillion dollars lol.

Why were you waiting?!

You got ripped off. That' shits worth £299 MAX in 2024.

Why were you waiting?

@@fwabble The XSX hasn't been tapped at all. I wonder if MS is holding back on the internal upgrades after Sony announces the Pro. They should toss in a faster SSD for load times only. Expect faster wifi, better heatsink and other minor improvements. It seems the Pro is not that much more powerful than the X after looking at the leaked specs. It's actually 16TF splitted up. 13-14TF for shading(45% PS5 uplift) and 3TF for ML. Faster ram but same amount as the X. Basically identical CPU's. It does seem the showcase was finally showing what the X was meant to do.

​@@tedunseth3966new gen Xbox rumored to release in 2026 anyway.

Ya if she wants a PS5 her only options are Digital, Standard, Digital Slim, Slim with disc drive or with option to buy disc drive separately later and soon PS5 Pro digital and PS5 Pro Disc 🤪 then Start shopping around for SSD Options 🤯

@@lordxboss5700digital and standard difference is intuitive - so is slim or not. Not to mention that those are self described difference. the x/s is a qualitative difference, and the branding is not intuitive.

@@lectorintellegat Buddy you dont even need to know which is x and which is s, people will ask for either the more affordable one or the more powerful one, but the thing is, no one is looking for xbox either way.

@@lectorintellegatnot really. Unless they specifically ask what the difference is the only immediately visible thing is the box color. I know of people who got one or the other and didn’t even notice it until someone else pointed it out.

Yeah a lot of parents are clueless. During Black Friday I saw a woman at target trying to buy Mario kart 8 for the Xbox. I’m not even kidding.

Because of the cost of the ps5 pro chip, faster ram and increased cooling, to keep costs down it'll probably be equipped with a 1tb ssd. So at least the xsx 2tb model has that...!

@@AthleticHobo-br4qh I guess but I’d rather have a 1tb ps5 pro over a 2tb series x if both are 600. You can upgrade the storage later anyway.

@@TimDespairBear11 absolutely. And not to mention upgrading storage on PS5 is very inexpensive

I’m still questioning why a PS5 pro would need to exist at this point. Maybe after GTA6?

@@kyledodson2992 I think sony wants to push better ray tracing, as right now it pretty much tanks the resolution or framerate. I’m just sticking to the old PS5 because I already have one.

J Allard, but yeah I agree. I loved the OG Xbox and 360, but everything after that has been 50 shades of disappointment.

It's only now I can look back and see just how good the 360, and the management around it was and still is

Come on dude, tons of people have Xboxes.

Xbox is selling

Exactly some people are saying why make it the same size of the x but they're not considering the new money invested in making new console designs and molds. When you can use the same mold as the x and the fact they try to have set model and design for each one

That would make sense if they were actually selling consoles at a higher rate. That is not the case. Sales are dropping every year, while Sony is gaining sales. MS only has a 33% market share. These additions will not increase sales as the pricing is too high. So now they have to produce more models and hope that people will buy them. If people don't, then they are losing money.

@@colaboytje My opinion on that is Microsoft is not concerned about hardware sales anymore. What they care about is getting their games to as many customers as possible, regardless of the platform and gain Game Pass subscribers. Sony is aiming for the same. Console hardware has never been profitable anyone other than Nintendo as Nintendo has lower hardware cost per unit than the other two and has strong first-party titles and IP to back it up. I'm predicting that Sony and Microsoft will start leveraging its Plus and Game Pass subscription as a means to get any games published on their platform to be playable on day one of release and make non-subscribers wait to play. Once consoles go all-digital, gamers won't be left with a choice of any alternatives; Sony/Microsoft can make people subscribe and then force gamers to "buy" the game by removing the said game from their subscription plan and require a 'purchase' of the digital license to keep playing the game until they revoke the license since people won't 'own' their games anymore.

@@colaboytje Exactly. It's dire for Xbox. They were being outsold 2:1 by PS5 and that's since jumped to 5:1 which is insanely bad.

Much more storage. Personally I havent needed it yet, but would consider this when buying a new one.

Options

​@@2greenifyon ps5 we have a thing called cheap expandable storage 😂😂 and its twice as fast, and no "" "" "bespoke" "" "" " fixtures 😂😂😂

If you consider how much those expansion cards are. It is cheaper to get the 2Tb X from the jump

​​@@2greenifythe 2TB Series X is a limited edition like the Halo version, so you won't be able to buy it forever. It's also $600 for a 4 year console when a regular X can be bought for $400.

I never understood the strategy of going all digital but selling consoles with such limited storage and charging an arm and a leg for additional storage.

Yeah, the vastly overpriced semi-proprietary storage cards are basically why I don't own a Series console. I won't have any of that!

​@@justinreschke3642 I only play via gamepass with half the storage & never have issues

Gotta follow the Apple model. Apple has been doing this for decades. Make any upgradeable accessories proprietary so that you can have full control of sales and profit on the items.

You'd think Sony would be the one with the proprietary drive.

The all digital has more space though

Same as when the Nintendo Switch brought out the oled version... folks who mostly play docked won't buy it but it's another option

@mikeuk666 yeah if I you don't have the X then 2tb is a good option. Same with Switch Oled

I moan when I get heavy loads

​@@BBWahoo, I'm virgin 😭

@@QuantumChrist Good, wait for that special someone.

@@BBWahoo zuzz

No games, easy to stay quiet

But then it wouldn't look like the mini-fridge anymore.

@@G360LIVE right?🤣imo the series x is the ugliest xbox design to exist, especially when your upgrading from the xbox one x

I wish they at least could have given the One S to One X treatment where the One X is basically the same formfactor as the One S. The Digital Series X could have been pushed more to an Series S Format (at the same time, everyone will confuse those both due to the black Series S)

​@@Youraveragegamer_97 nah its easily the best Xbox design to date.

​@@applehazeva2739 really? I always thought the one x was distinctive then the one s due to its airflow direction change and the one x having a bigger overhang in the front and side

They're only referring to the retail price at launch, and at launch, digital is the same price as physical, so it's just as affordable. I'm not defending this, by the way; I'm just telling you how their lawyer would spin it if you tried to sue them.

Not one of my friends buy physical games anymore. Most buy games in cheaper regions, activate using VPN and play normally in their own region. Elden ring for example was 16 bucks when launched this way. Much cheaper than physical, even when you can sell it for a good price.

This is highly dependent on location. In the US, it is usually cheaper at launch to go digital simply by pretending to be in Oregon to avoid sales tax, which you'd have to pay on physical copies.

Bullshit

You're not wrong, the "official" retail price will be the same, but many shops/sites will still sell the physical copy for cheaper prices, at least compared to buying directly from Microsoft or Sony's stores anyway. That doesn't even take into account used copies. I couldn't begin to list the number of digital games that still go for stupid prices but can be picked up for little to nothing on the used market.

I suspect that is one reason Microsoft didn’t go with that design: neither is a good association. 😂

Exactly. They're fine pieces of hardware on their own, but how excited are we supposed to be when the messaging amounts to "Here are some more Xbox hardware variants you can buy, or you can just play our games on your PS5 and PC!"

SONY IS DOING IT AS WELL. BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE DONE. I AM NOT SURE VIDEO GAMES ARE GOING TO BE HERE IN THE NEXT 5 YEARS.

@@ogre706 so you would rather be given less choice and for it to be shiny all thanks to illusionary software exclusivity? MS is doing us a favor, and we should reward them by buying their products, not complain how they are not as bad as the rest!

@@Docwiz2 putting games to PC is not the same as putting them into a rival console. PC is NOT a console.

​@@VaultBoy69and I'm still waiting for Bloodborne, Demon Souls, The Last Guardian and Spider-Man 2, if I wanted to play literally any Xbox game of the last 2 generations I could literally do it on my PC right now 🤷🏼‍♀️

Dude the regular series X is black and the Carbon Series S that came out last September smh

@@TheKing8608_ yes but they are discontinuing the black series s, could they release a black handheld in its place?

I don’t think it’s coming out. It’ll be dumb to realize a new controller in the middle of a generation.

Sega had (still has) memorable games though…

With publishing power 😆

SEGA Dreamcast is still live.

​@@balaam_7087Sega has been making mediocre at best games when they don't nostaglia bait.

Lol, uhm no.. Actually thats playstation...

Ah yes because latest playstation showcase has been full of excitement... 😏

@@nicolapellegrino1072 As if the fact that the PlayStation showcases have been bad automatically makes Xbox exciting.

@@nicolapellegrino1072Xbox has had the best showcases for 3 years, the platform is still in the worst place it’s ever been.

@leoni7649 you have to show something to make excitement 😁 people don't always like to use imagination. 😉

@@nicolapellegrino1072 yes you have to show something, but that alone is not enough. Xbox have been showing a lot of games, but when people get to play them, they are really disappointing. Starfield, Redfall, Halo infinite, and more. All of them way inferior than xbox fans deserved

Even though that would make sense at this point the problem is it would fall in with the 1tb model at the same price with less memory doesn’t make sense

oh it does male sense. perfect for backwards compatibility games. would insta buy one

@@TheDunbartxeen There were rumors a disc drive add on was coming. And it ain't here!

That’s the point! More gamers will buy via their store hence they make more money

@@sumomaster5585 if that was the point then they should not release disk base system at all

@@rinkumultani6515 you can't do that whilst ps still does, bad pr and marketing

You answered your own question. Removing the disk drive also removes the ability for consumers to buy games cheaper at retail stores, now you're forced to pay Microsoft full price. Last gen they tried to stop gamers from lending games to friends or buying games 2nd hand, if they'd gotten away with it and Xbox One had sold well then there would be no disk based Xbox consoles this generation.

@@Skullet how did i answered my own question? and i did not ask any question in the first place. i just stated the facts that there is no point in release all digital when they are releasing disk at the same time. they are just robbing the people by removing disk but selling at higher price the same system. in the end all that go for all digital will lose more money in the long run

It was on sale for $399 very recently in the U.S. also, in Europe where Xbox sells even worse I get their sales are even more extreme.

Yea

Yes but that was the 512GB edition. This new one is 1TB, which is the same size as the carbon black series S.

if you want graphics, why are you playing on consoles??! they are for connivence not graphics

Why buy the rumored ps5 pro in 2025 when you can buy the next gen Xbox in 2026?

@@sumomaster5585 You can enjoy a boost in graphics even on a console? Then you have have convenience with better graphics and performance! 👍 Do not worry about what other people do with their money.

Don't waste your money on useless Pro models. Consoles must exist with only one model to last 5-6 years

​@@maurocapitanothe PS5 pro will launch anyway.

@@shayanali8771 and it will be a useless and expensive launch. they need to release games, not useless mid-gen games

​@@shayanali8771Says who?

Same thing I said when it was confirmed that the series s was legit. I knew that it wouldn't make the impact that they were looking for.

You’re both wrong

The series-s is the best-selling xbox console, so that console hasn't been a mistake.

@nicolapellegrino1072 still selling poorly for the price

@@nicolapellegrino1072because it was the only console available during the first couple years of the generation and they still got blown out badly by PlayStation

^this.

I agree. $199 series S would have an impact. That is almost impulse level purchase.

would be great, but there's a limit to how much losses they can likely take. There's hardly a reason to own a ps5 as well, so why do you have one?

@@sumomaster5585 I got it to catch up on ps3 and ps4 titles, I skipped those after the incredible ps2. Went to the 360 then to PC. PS5 is a great place to play older sony only titles. In fact its a real PS4 pro. Current gen is a wash for the xbox and PS. We will get good games in the last throws of these boxes.

@@sumomaster5585 We really don't know what 'losses' any of these companies really take. RU-vid content creators have the 'expert' tag going along with them but they aren't upper management of any of thee companies.

If a PS5 pro ever exists it will be useless and expensive. The consoles were born to make an entire generation 5-6 years. We need games, not mid consoles

It's not a lot more powerful. CPU is basically the same as the X but they did make the ram faster. It's really a 16TF console. 13-14TF for shading(45% PS5 uplift) and 3TF for ML. The good news is it could bring out the best in the XSX that has been held back all gen. These Xbox consoles were dummy units. Maybe they upgraded the internals to be announced when Sony announces the PRO. I think there is more to this $600 Special Edition outside of just storage. They could always toss in a faster 7000 mb/s SSD inside. It would only be used for load times only, but could entice some to upgrade. Who knows

Nice profile pic. There are to many to choose from these day though. 💪💚👍

Because a decent pc is x3 the cost

The only reason I'd be interested in getting a series X is because some games still run better on console than PC, because the developer will probably never truly optimize the game on PC (Jedi Survivor).

You first said that game pass existed on PC, so I assume you already have a PC? Why would you buy a console to play older games when your PC can do that? 😂.

​@@mikeuk666Wrong, you can get an RX 6700 and a Ryzen 5 5500 both for $450 and then the rest of the computer parts for a total of ~$700.

​@@CyberCluStar Wars: Jedi Survivor has constant frame drops to 55 FPS, stutters, and even after the newest patch it still has a bit of Screen-Tearing on non-VRR screens and a render resolution of 936p - 1008p. How is that a good example of "optimization"? Pick another game, that one is messed up on all platforms.

They are referring to the cylindrical shape of what the all digital console was supposed to look like.

@@paulkinder8440 oh ok I know what you mean

Maybe at the Xbox Showcase at Gamescon this august? :)

Yes. ALL white plastic yellows over time. What's your point?

If you smoke

Yes they will eventually faze it out and replace it with the 2tb series x

or just use iphone scheme, xbox and xbox pro

Wait, what? Gyrocontrols? The thing everyone hated during the early ps3 days so that the controller got replaced with a proper dualshock pretty quickly?

@@khalidhashmi9772 Gyro controls are the closest way to get the precision of mouse aiming on a controller. It's how I play every shooter on my PC now since it allows me to play with a comfortable controller in hand while also being able to play without the built-in cheats (aim assist).

@@khalidhashmi9772 I don't really know what you mean, but gyro aim these days is as precise as playing with mouse and keyboard.

@@KaiSchSpIf I hear gyro I'm thinking Lair on PS3😅

​@@khalidhashmi9772 Gyro has a substantial user base on PC through steam. It's good for first person shooters.

Could be worse 🤷🏻‍♂️ pay $500 for a PS5 with No games and then buy COD for $70 🤪 COD BO6 isn't 300GB that's just the usual Xbox Tax in effect

​Getting old to start over everything a console war. Ts asked a good question.l I think the price difference and storage kinda match. @@lordxboss5700

@@lordxboss5700 like i ask all xbox losers do a list of xbox games ghis generation and a list of PlayStation games , this usually shuts you clowns up 🤡

@@lordxboss5700you know you’re paying BO6 with that gamepass you pay monthly. It is confirmed that it’s 300GB on the microsoft store on xbox. Also why are you shilling for a company? stop it.

@@ASx2608I agree, the only streaming service I have is Prime but that’s because it comes with the shipping. I don’t really use it. I think Gamepass is just like most subscription services getting us more and more comfortable with owning nothing. I’d rather have the license on the disc than connected to an account for my favorite games. Same goes for movies. If we go into an all subscription or digital only future I’m content with what I own.

They already do that.

It doesn’t make sense to release a controller in the middle of a generation

So MS is shafting customers. Because just looking at retail prices on amazon the difference between a 1TB and 2 TB nvme Gen 3 SSD is only 50 bucks.

You’re thinking of potential benefits for you, the consumer. Thats why it doesn’t make sense. Try thinking in terms of making more money for Microsoft and everything will become clear

They are going to faze the og series x out

Ikr. They don't need a new console because they are already breaking sales records /S if it wasn't obvious

Kudos to them throwing in the towel

@@urmomma2688 Yeah because a new hardware would make them money lol Like Sony with VR 😂

@@jamez62982 the best way of making money is releasing no new hardware. How didn't they think of that 😳

The Pro does not exist at the moment and I hope it will never be released. useless mid-gen updates