Nintendo's Changed...So Is There Hope for Paper Mario? 

I waited 23 years for a sequel to classic sonic and after so long it came. Never give up hope Arlo...

I like how everyone came back to this video after the announcement of Origami King, and then now everyone’s coming back to this video for the exact opposite reason

Well here we are 5 years later and its finally happening, Thousand Year Door is back

I'm still waiting for Paper Luigi to play through the background story of ttyd...

Koizumi Yoshiaki is the future of Nintendo.

2018: Nintendo's Changed...So Is There Hope for Paper Mario? 2019: No 2020: No 2021: No 2022: No 2023: YES!!!!

I think it's likely that the results of that Club Nintendo survey are due to most people just rushing through the survey to earn their points rather than filling it out honestly

My flame is out, but the remains are doused in gasoline and ready to burn. All it needs is a spark in the form of an announcement

They Fixed Mario Tennis and They Fixed Mario Party I trust Nintendo a little bit more, but i don't want to have too much hope

Arlo, I see your strategy: Since Nintendo always does the opposite of what you say, you do an episode saying Paper Mario is dead so they HAVE to make one. Clever.

Woah, Koizumi was behind some of my favorite games' stories of all time? Thanks for explaining why I should really respect this guy's impact on the company and their games!

A true sequel to TTYD may just be a pipe dream... but if there's one man good at getting through pipes...

If they made a Paper Mario with The Thousand Year Door game play with Super's story, I would buy that in a second. Shame that would most likely not happen anytime soon though. Super Paper Mario was truly the last good Paper Mario game.

Now, if they could take Colour Splash's artstyle and apply it to something like Paper Mario TTYD, that wouldn't be a bad idea in my eyes. We already know that Mario and Luigi has been getting remakes recently. At this point, if they're not going to go back to the old style, the least they could do is make the old fans somewhat content with a remake of the best Paper Mario game.

Whenever I hear about anyone--particularly video game developers--dumbing something down this way to "appeal to kids," I have to wonder if they've ever met a child. The first Paper Mario titles were perfect for ALL ages. How many of us were 7-10 playing them for the first time? How many of us still connected to the charming characters and developed storylines? Kids aren't stupid. They love to be engaged by carefully-crafted mechanics, puzzles, and a creative story. A kid's favorite way to wind down at the end of the night is to be told a story. They naturally enjoy being whisked off to fantasy worlds through reading or creating their own characters and stories. The implication that kids won't like a video game if it has depth or plot is frankly absurd and shows just how out of touch with kids some developers are, and it's particularly bad when it's Nintendo, which is supposed to be the most "all-ages" of the bunch.

I want a Paper Luigi. He had such a cool adventure, that he would tell you about, during each chapter of TTYD. I want to play a game, that takes place during his adventure. Each time he finishes a chapter in his adventure, he can travel back to the dock in TTYD, to tell Mario about his adventure, for continuity between the two games. Also, I want a Paper Luigi that takes during Super Paper Mario, as well.

I love The Lonely Goomba’s edits

They wanted to gear Paper Mario toward kids. Here’s the thing - it already was perfect for kids! My story with Paper Mario: I was 5 and my sister was 7. It was 2001. We rented Paper Mario from Blockbuster. We got stuck in the very beginning (I think we couldn’t find Goompa’s hammer). We were disappointed, as it lacked the straightforward fun of Super Mario 64. Eventually, we gave it another shot. We either rented the game again or bought it (or it was a gift; I’m not really sure). We fell in love with it. My sister and I would play for hours at a time, getting lost in the story. I couldn’t really read, so she had to read everything out loud. Like I said, she was 7, so she mispronounced most things. We still laugh about how we thought “Repel Gel” was pronounced with a hard ‘g’. We loved Thousand Year Door, were mildly put off by Super Paper Mario, and pretty much abandoned the series after that. I’m currently playing the original with my wife, who has never played it. I turned it on one day and I got a kick out of my wife’s first time holding an N64 controller, as she held the outside prongs and tried to reach across to the control stick. It was pretty hilarious. She also laughed about how blurry the graphics were. We ended up playing for 3 and a half hours straight, getting engrossed in the story. Playing the game today, I am surprised about how much I remember from my childhood. I’m perhaps more surprised by the fact that my sister and I were able to figure out the intricacies of this game at the ages of 5 and 7. The game respects the player and doesn’t dumb down its language nor its humor. It encourages exploration rather than holding your hand. Instead of reducing itself to a digestible, surface level enjoyment, it brings the maturity out of its younger players and creates a happy medium between its diverse customer base. It finds this balance in its sense of adventure and enthusiasm for creativity. Few games have had this magical impact on me, and I believe others share this sentiment. It’s why we care so much for this franchise and hope that its central qualities are resurrected in future games, whether in the next Paper Mario installment or in the gaming industry at-large.

3:03 *When Arlos RU-vid video has a better story and more depth than sticker star and colour splash combined...probably a better battle system too*

Man, these videos about Paper Mario make me so sad. But Odyssey surprised me so much! Who would have guessed that a game like that would come after 3D Land and 3D World? I'm still rooting for a new Paper Mario like the first two, even if it's unlikely.

Funny this popped up in my feed after I watched you die and resurrect when they announced the thousand year door remake. Sometimes, not always but occasionally, hope is rewarded.

Next vid: The amiibo Problem... *and how it can save paper mario*

I loved Super Paper Mario, it was my first Paper Mario game and I was just so swept up in the story and characters. I had no idea a Mario game could be so involving. I don't mind how they do the next Paper Mario as long as they focus on story.

I came from the future to tell you that not theres is no hope

it's such a tragedy that Super Paper Mario gets such a bad rap since it's viewed as the beginning of the end for the series. That game is excellent, and stays true to the spirit of the previous two games in all things but the Gameplay, which was so radically changed.

Watching this after the tryd remake got announced is sure interesting

yes, there is

Never give up the dream Arlo. Look at us now 5 years later with a full remake of Thousand Year Door on the Switch announced. Never give up the dream.

Super Paper Mario was an outstanding spin-off that never got marketed as a spin-off and was thus burdened with the weight of being a sequel thousand year door.

We got our first glimpse of hope!!! Paper Mario: TTYD remaster is here!

I'd love to believe that there will be another Paper Mario game like 64 and TTYD but... I can't. I'm sorry but, if Tanabe is producing the next game, it's a red flag for me. That comment about making the game for the 7 to 10-year old demographic was very pitiful for multiple reasons.

Let's see how the origami king turns out

I have an idea. Just remake the original game in HD with enhanced music, extra levels and extra members. A second storyline also to connect to the rise of the thousand year door.

Honestly at this point I'm just replaying the first 3 paper mario games over and over just to fill the void of never getting a true paper mario

Super paper Mario is probably my favorite paper Mario, actually. The story was phenomenally entertaining and it didn't really suffer for dropping the admittedly fantastic take on turn-based combat.

Who is here after TTYD remake was announced

Koizumi vs. Miyamoto Civil War

3:01 And now we know from recent interviews that this was right all along.

GIVE ME PAPER LUIGI AND THE MARVELOUS COMPASS

Oh Paper Mario, how I miss you so..

A fallen warrior. R.I.P Paper Mario. 2000-2012 It turned from an amazing game to sticker Yu-gi-oh. (Color Splash was actual Yu-gi-oh) Edit: For the salty Yu-gi-oh fans in the reply section, this was a joke!

2023 has officially rekindled my hope given the Mario RPG and TTYD news. I'll allow myself some naïve optimism, and get excited!

They should put Kensuke Tanabe on a team to make an original IP or game for children so somebody else can make a good Paper Mario. There is nothing wrong with having some games targeting young children, they just should not be IPs with an existing audience that is not composed of young children.

*_THE ANTI-SHIGGY_* EDIT: Wow, that's a lot of likes. That's more likes than I've ever had on anything on RU-vid. Thanks!

The end joke is even funnier as of September 14, 2023, but now for completely new reasons.

Koizumi is so cool who really knows the fans, i really hope that the next paper mario on the switch will include new characters and story

To be honest, I’m not sure why they changed such a loved series so drastically. I still can’t come up with a logical reason for the complete change despite everyone loving old mechanics. Color Splash wasn’t as linear, but the story after Super began to slip. Just my opinion tho

Dimentio was one of the greatest villains ever created in the Mario universe. His methods range to that of a Dr Strange villain then to that of a Mario villain He wants to merge dimensions together because his holy cult book The Dark Prognosticus demands that they be merged and in the inevitable chaos it will bring forth a brand new world where only the strongest will be able to survive the massive culture shift during the dimension distortion. And as a being of pure chaos he relishes at the idea of it because his entire body is just concentrated dark energy. In a lot of ways he like Klarion the Witch Boy a powerful sorcerer with no concept of order or upbringing only mindless chaos

It's funny, I remember seeing your reaction to Yoshiaki Koizumi in the Nintendo Switch Live Presentation and going "who is this guy, why haven't we heard of you before?", and now you're singing his praises! ...Granted, I was in the same boat of not knowing who he was and finding out some time later, but yeah, he's actually been working his way to the top for quite some time, and out of all the people who Nintendo decided to put in charge of the Switch, I'm glad it was this guy!

Who is here after oragami king was announced

16:50 Uhm... *WHAT?!?!* I *loved* the Story in Super Paper Mario! The Gameplay was surely not as good and tight as in Paper Mario 1+2, but the Story made it still to a great Paper Mario (that, and the combat and gameplay wasn't all too bad) Also, I once borrowed Sticker Star from my best friends sister, gave it back to her after a few days, couldn't play it for longer than 3 hours, and couldn't play further than the first boss, it was just too bad. Then, about a year later, I bought the game in store, thinking to myself: "It probably wasn't so bad, and I just overreacted" I refunded it the day after, it was as horrible as I remembered...

3D Mario and Paper Mario have a lot in common. Started on N64, improved on GC, tried something new on Wii, reinvented it for portable play on 3DS, with a sequel on Wii U. And finally, reinvented on Switch... We hope.... Someday... (The difference is that Super Mario 3D Land is good)

Five years later... Nintendo has *TRULY* changed now. And hopefully they'll *STAY* that way.

Honestly the two main problems I had with Paper Mario was that A: yeah, they took out everything interesting and made it Mario but Paper, which is honestly just as boring as SEGA removing all the characters from Sonic and focusing purely on Sonic himself and B: the endless, incesscant jokes that begin and end with "WE ARE MADE OF P A P E R PAPERPAPERPAPERPAPERPAPER". IF they could just get rid of that and return to the whole Paper aspect being a design choice over a literal attribute of the world, that'd be a good sprint in the right direction.

Wow. Koizumi has been doing everything I loved the most out of some of my all-time favourite games for years now and I wasn't even aware of him. Thank you so much for bringing him to my attention, Arlo!

One of the problems with Color Splash was the generic designs. They would've gone a lot farther if they made the Toads unique in appearance as well. The original 2 had toads with HAIR and HATS!

Who is here after TTYD remake announcement

the first 3 games are still the only true paper mario games for me in my opinion, sticker star and color splash were simply not as memorable as the first ones.

Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door wasnt just loved for the story its self but the setting was so unusual for Mario and really interesting and unique because of that. In alot of Mario games you have the Mushroom Kingdom, a desert world, a tropical world, a lava world and so on, with ttyd you get non of that. The main hub is a thug town with a Pianta Mafia and a stand to hang people in the center. The Japanese version had a chalk out line of a Toad implying it was murdered and their is bars and graffiti and you get around through the sewers. And that is only the Hub world. There is a grassy medow village, sure. But that Village is terorised by a Dragon that lives in a Castle that eats the people there. The Boggly Woods doesnt look at all like and forest in any game and then you move to Mario becoming a professional wrestler... I could stop there but there is a Pirate treasure Hunt very much like the Goonies, an Murder Mystery style level on a train, a really creepy twilight town where Mario's identity is stollen and then Mario goes to the Moon. I miss this type of creativity.

Here's a hot take, Super Paper Mario is a true sequel to TTYD. It has the diverse characters, and the partners system, even if the partners were a bit bland. It has a deep and unique story, making it a sequel to TTYD, even if it was a different gameplay style. People hate on Super because the games after it were terrible, and mediocre. Super doesn't deserve to be ignored and hated upon. But that's just my opinion.

Yes, there is hope

Gotta say, its nice to come back to this video now after the September 2023 direct

HOLY CRAP that animated story sequence with Miyamoto came out of nowhere. AND WAS AMAZINg! :D

We’ll have to wait and see with this one, guys...

Arlo predicts no more good Paper Mario = Paper Mario 2,000 Year Door confirmed, Holiday 2018. ALL ABOARD THE HYPE-TRAIN!

Less than 1% of people said the thing they enjoyed most was the story?! What, did they only survey a single person?

Here after the Thousand Year Door Remake announcement, this is aging weird now.😂😂

I want a new good paper Mario I want a new good paper Mario I want a new good paper Mario And shroom cake, But mostly paper Mario.

Arlo, hearing you talk about Paper Mario makes my plastic melt... We can only hope for a return to form for the series!

Color Splash? More like belongs in the trash.

It's possible that BotW had so many fresh, new ideas because Nintendo had been suppressing them for so many years, and people were finally allowed the freedom they needed to let them come to light.

Super Paper Mario might have been the most different but it is my favorite Paper Mario because it has an amazing story,and that's mainly because I love deep stories and lore, which is why I hate sticker star and think color splash is ok. Paper Mario probably won't get any batter if they don't listen to the fans. If they just make more games like sticker star I am going to lose ALL hope for Paper Mario... As if I have any left.

Arlo this is me from 4 years on the future, Nintendo hasn't changed a bit, in fact they are worse now than ever before.

"A true Paper Mario 3"????? Bruh, Super Paper Mario was AWESOME! It was different, but still awesome! I'd like the series to go back to it's roots as much as the next guy, but come on!

Nintendo needs to stop emphasizing on the whole paper theme and go back to RPG/story > Paper and Stickers. Thousand year door had the perfect balance of this where we had Mario turn to a paper plane etc but the main core was turn base combat with fun RPG elements. Paper Mario was more than just paper. The good ol days.

People might hate on super paper mario but we can all agree that it has one of the best stories in marik history

I secretely wish that Nintendo made sequel to Super Paper Mario, but having an actual battle system instead, and keeping in the amazing story and characters

How about a Mario role playing trio? 1) A true sequel to Paper Mario TTYD. 2) Super Paper Mario 2. Longer than the first one, more difficult and with more puzzles. 3) Super Mario RPG2. Developed by Square with 16 bit style graphics (maybe switchable graphics modes between 16 bit and modern HD?). All three with their own set of unique amibos.

“A wildcard has been thrown into the mix, and that wild card is a little thing, called the switch” *cue an origami king advertisement Me: what in the ever living....

My fan idea for the next Paper Mario is very different This game focuses on Bowser Jr. (whom is older) from the future kid napping Mario and bringing him to the future allowing Bowser in the present to launch a full scale invasion. In this future Bowser Jr is in full control of the Bowser Empire (Bowser is old and senile) and locks Mario up where he finds a rebel in the same prison and escapes, and he must find the shards of the Chronostar to stop this evil future

I can see a remake of the original Paper Mario with the graphics of Color Splash

Who’s here after THAT direct of 2023?

It’s weird looking back at this video now in light of what just got announced.

Who else is here thinking this was about the direct

Contact Nintendo and Tweet people like Yoshiaki Koisumi and get them to do this. I just did it. I sent them this video.

5 years later… There’s finally hope at all

I can listen to Arlo talk about Paper Mario forever.

How the tides have turned. TTYD Remake is real

One day, the Paper Mario series would eventually resurrect into its former glory.

One major thing I want in general that is an equally huge problem: Please stop making all the Mario spinoffs look so generic.

Who else is back here because of....THAT trailer?

Colorsplash blew me away, the amount of detail and fun clever moments was insane! It was an amazing game, just not an amazing paper mario game. (Favorite part was fighting the steak lol) It was a puzzle game, wish they left out the battles all together, and made it a spin off and not a main series paper mario game. But wow everyone looks past it’s dialogue and charm and literally every level is insanely creative. One of the most creative games I’ve played tbh. But YES the older paper mario games are better, no doubt about it lol

Super Paper Mario, despite being different, has always been my personal favorite Paper Mario game. TTYD is a close second though. If going based solely on story, TTYD takes the cake. If Nintendo made a game that may even be just a Paper Mario but with Super's gameplay and TTYD's story, I'd still get it. Bringing in the RPG battle system would make the game that much better. Basically what I'm trying to say is: even if it's just another Super Paper Mario type of game, it'd still be better than Sticker Star and Color Splash *combined*. C'mon Nintendo. We're waiting. Give the fans what they what they want. Bring back -the good- Paper Mario.

Watching this now is painful, all of Tanabe's interviews were the opposite of all these hopes. Tragic idk if my ember is burnt out I kinda have hope since it seems like the current team (or certain producer) is so keen on just not making a RPG I'd say things could change with some staff changes. I can't see them doing 2 more of these OK feels like the best they could do with the SS formula

I'd love to see the fans reactions if in the next direct, Nintendo was like "Yes! It's finally here! We've heard your pleas, and it's here! A brand new paper mario game based on the cult classic Super Paper Mario!"

Nice to see lonely goomba's editing in there! Its recognisable at this point! I love the whole video and agree with everything! Good job!

Yes arlo. Yes there is. Congrats.

I’m gonna repeat what I said in SuperMarioT’s recent Paper Mario video: I don’t think Paper Mario can return to form. Hell, I’ll go further and say that ‪even if the next Paper Mario game does return to form, I’m not going to touch it unless I see a major improvement from past games.‬

short answer: yes

Arlo! I need more videos from you on paper Mario! I need it just as much as I need a new paper Mario game!