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Look at you getting some badass sponsors lately! I hope you’re world renowned for all you do for trans people in a year or two. Keep up your excellent work.

Hey Jamie! Sappho is pronounced "sap-pho=fo", there is a p in there. btw I love your videos (did I mispell your name? Sorry if I did)

There where times In history sexual relationships between two woman was not frown up on. At least in the classes where marriage was not sometimes you did out of love but to gain things for the family. (political marriage's) like becoming alleys as family's. Here the women had to safe herself for marriage. But with sexual interactions between woman the " virgin seal" was not broken. Because that could only happen between a man and woman.

You could go as far to say it was a... gayming laptop

Agreed. How does Jamie not know about this? It’s one of the best stories ever.

Achilles will forever be my favourite, the song of Achilles absolutely broke me at the end.

@@Bear_the_shepherd Sameee. You never recover from the emotional trauma so.... 10/10 recomend.

I found out few days ago, honestly. I'm upset I didn't know about this before. I better get some education, lol

(i apologize for the rant in advance rip) oml YES. one of the reasons i hate the movie Troy so much is cause Achilles gets reduced to just being this proud egoistic self absorbed lil shit, and i mean sure he is all that, but he's also suffering so bloody much (like every character in greek myth and tragedies) and i hate that it's just getting ignored that he thought a damn river and would've destroyed all of Troy on his own if the gods didn't step in, all because Patroclus died. And the fact that he dragged Hector's body around the city 3 times it's just _ wow. Cause in ancient greek that was a rlly rlly horrible thing to do - not granting someone a proper burial and all, but he just did not give a fuck about anything alse but Patroclus. He even wished that all of the other greeks would die so he and Pat could conquer Troy on their own. Also Alexander the great saw himself as a kind of Achilles reincarnation, and he wanted the same realtionship Achilles and Pat had. ok sry im Iliad trash, homersexual, if you will. but in conclusio,the iliad is exactly why you don't ever wear your boyfriends armor^^

Multi level marketing?

@@someone857 mlm as in men loving men not multi level marketing

@@LohStorm Marxism-Leninism-Maoism?

@@isaacevilman7586 Gay Maoists in pyramid schemes

Another MLM version of Sapphic is "Turian" named after Alan Turing

exactly . pretty sure they had just as much maybe more, it just wasn't talk about.

@@ilovelittlemix4034 Well it was the era in which doctors would masturbate female patients, and call it mental health therapy. So they were definitely hiding sexual assault under guise of medicine.

Or it relies on the fact that we sexualize forms of physical contact so much now that physical intimacy is assumed to be sexual first. I think it cuts both ways.

Yeah, if we go by what the literature directly tell us, then there was barely even any sex sex outside consummation of marriage. So, I guess the magic bird really did bring all those babies.

1800s Dandy: Yes Mr. Alfred spent the week in my home (I had a boy over) WLW bff: Did he enjoy his stay? (oh my god, details bestie?) Dandy: I can soundly say his comfort was my main priority (I railed him within an inch of his life) WLW bff: you are the most gracious of hosts, my dear (I love that for you, hell yeah)

@Joséf from TX ??? Huh?-

@Joséf from TX I am so confused right now

what?

@@a_reelskitface I’ll answer you first, and hope the two other confused people see this Since sex and gender are two different things, saying same gender couples would be more respectful to the people who’s gender and sex don’t align. Like if a trans man were in a relationship with a cis man, it would be a same gender relationship, but not a same sex relationship.

Omg I just looked at the reply, I’m sorry- the person you were probably confused about deleted they’re comment xD I thought you were confused about the original comment, sorry

Yeah sometimes I'm just like "oooh but it would be so cool if they WERE friends..."

I feel the same sometimes, but I think we should be familiar enough with erasure to appreciate that that's probably what it is.

Depends on the emotions of the people involved. Unless they’re making out, that one is just kinda obvious.

these are the only two moods of Jamie

@@shaaba love ur hair :)

Just like Clicky wicky everyone's favorite furry

@@moon_wei He can switch from a memey-funny-dirty-furry-type person to a super chill, really insightful and intelligent guy seamlessly. No, scratch that, he is both. And he can choose which one is more prominent. Same with Jamie being a chill gamer dude and a highly intelligent professor.

Don't feel bad, they think we smell nice!

oh neat, i must smell nice then

@@octobersandwich2455 aromatic aromantic

It’s worse when it is corrected to “a romantic”

@@globalwyrm2334 agreed

Oh, it goes further: whenever two people of the opposite sex appear in ancient art just sitting next to each other, everyone _immediately_ assume they are a couple. And to your last sentence: I think they just hate queer people. But then again, I'm Gen-X and came out in the 1990s after watching almost all of The Straights™ gleefully celebrating the entire generation of gay men before mine dying slowly and horribly. So, my generation of gays always operate under the assumption that all heteros hate us.

It also extends into people forcibly assuming romance on a couple of friends who hsppen to be opposite sex... Literally not believing it could just be a friendship? Speaking from experience...

I think part of it also is just benign ignorance on gay relationships; they'd only see gay couples when they're with them or out in public, where the line between "couple" and "platonic best friends" is only clear if they hold hands or kiss 😆

@@John_Weiss I'm Gen-X and gay as well, and I don't think all straights hate us. Things are getting better, slowly but surely.

@@John_Weiss I’m just a lonely bi person here dealing with straight passing privilege but also society mainly assumes you’re straight until you tell them otherwise cuz heteronormativity Btdubs I adore you 🥰🥰🥰😘😘

Not just you, it looks awesome

It is not just you, I am inspired

Facts!! It is goals -- and I don't even have long hair right now!

It looks really pretty.

Phenomenal ❤️

Ever since I transitioned, this happens with my twin sister and me!

My older sister and her boyfriend used to get asked if I was their kid.

Bonus points if those same people then try to claim that they can tell you’re siblings because you “look so much alike” as if they didn’t just ask/assume we were married. My brother and I are best friends and look nothing alike (there are a few facial features but he’s olive skinned, dark hair, & dark eyes and I’m fair skinned, light haired, light eyes and freckled.)

That's one of the problems with people having to keep it quiet, people become so desperate for representation that they take it wherever it can plausibly be assumed.

Thanks for not forgetting ace people. Aro people are also in this category of usually left out when discussing historical relationships

@@patriciavcardoso1344 Yep. Sometimes historical roommates really were roommates.

Patroclus*

It should be stated that they weren't so much as relaxed about sexualities, but rather that they had very, very different standards than we do now. Caesar was still a subject of jokes for his sexuality, but it wasn't because he slept with men, but rather because he was a bottom (as a high status man), and similarly, the standards for what someone could and couldn't do while married were very, very different depending on if they were a man or a woman (as in nobody cares compared to death penalty), but with no regard for the gender of their partners (or even less, I don't know of any evidence that women were forbidden from being with other women while married to a man, the hang up, at least for Athens, was largely around the certainty of someone's inheritance, so wlw relationships between married women may not have been an issue like women with a man would be).

Do you know if Alexander might be on any kind of streaming service? Perhaps on dvd?

Unfortunately a lot of the gay relationships in Greece weren't consensual, but rather grown men having sex with boys. Young adolencent boys were glorified and women were worth so little in ancient Greece that is was seen as better to have sex with a boy than a woman. So I would NOT call them "more relaxed" about sexualities, just different. And not always for the better.

@@auroraourania7161 It frightens me that the LGBT+ community wants to claim Caesar as a gay icon, considering he committed genocide in Gaul where he killed several 10th of 1000s innocent women and children, and men who came forward to ask for peace. I know modern society has glorified Caesar as a skilled leader and commander, but if he were alive today we'd compare him more to people like Stalin and Kim Jong Un. Non-democratic dictators who aren't scared of killing tons of innocent people to get to power. I'd prefer the icons like Leonardo Da Vinci and Oscar Wilde. Skilled artists who didn't kill people for a living!

I heartily second your little brain's question, sounds to me like a pretty obvious assumption and people forget that not EVERYONE's allosexual.

Yeah but Asexual means no sexual attraction, I think the word your looking for is Aromantic.

@@coreyaiou8 well it could be either. Or both.

@@barrylangille3523 yeah

@@coreyaiou8 hey, asexual here, and even though I do feel romantic attraction I would still prefer a qpr (what op described) over a romantic relationship. I obviously don't stand for all aces but even an asexual alloromantic may prefer a qpr for other reasons. Okay thanks bye :)

@Question the Satirist Uranus and Neptune were a lesbian couple in the original Japanese anime of Sailor Moon. When it was dubbed for the US audience they changed them to "cousins" but the lesbian subtext remained.

@@BarronessM at least in Sailor Moon Crystal they dropped the cousins thing and we got nonbinary-spec Uranus Unfortunately they also dropped the gay relationship between those two gem guys that I forget the name of (the bad guys in the first season)

@@genesisofthebetween You're thinking Zoicite. In the original Anime he was gay and in a relationship with Kunzite. The original North American version turned him into a woman to remove the homosexual aspect.

There'd a 1981 manga call stop hibari about a trans girl, it did not age well as the father misgenders her but she doesn't care as she wears want she wants, it's a good read and the art style is good

same here, queer ppl have existed forever n it's rly cool to learn abt

@@stevie8271 Exactly

i think in the us it’s literally illegal for them to teach gay history- i read that somewhere and don’t remember fact checking it though so don’t quote me on that

@@fauxhuman0 oh ye theres a lot of anti-queer legislation being passed or at least being drafted in the US rn. trans bathroom bills, womens sports bills, etc. im p sure anti-queer history bills have passed as well, or at least exist

@@stevie8271 no they didn't lmao

I don't know how well this would apply to your sister, it's not the same experience but maybe it's a little similar, in the autistic community there are a lot of people who feel their autism strongly relates to their gender identity, but that doesn't make their gender identity any less valid than that of a neurotypical trans person, so i think it might be the same for your sister - whether it's her schizophrenia or not, it doesn't mean her gender identity isn't valid. You're a really good sibling for wanting to understand her like that. Best of wishes to you and your sister!

Love them you do already clearly, i can see by the way you talk. I have no idea about schizophrenia But just knowing your loved is nice. Depands on your sir come stance but names that are validating are have helped me. If there dysphoria is gender related then clothes are always good. If there closited then undergarments. For me i struggle-because i’m blind so i would like a guide in what to do, i’m sure this goes for others. Hope this is a little hel full oh and if it is gender related remember not all things are linked Hope everything goes well

Like just bc there schizophrenic That hasn’t everything to do with it all. Like people have sayed just bc i’m blind i’m pining negative emotions on my gender which isn’t true. But like i sayd befor i have no idea about Schizophrenia

I have no experience with schizophrenia so you *really* should consider reaching out to people who have neuropsychological insight to give in this, but I did have to do some selfwork on a mixture of depression, trauma-based androphobia (basically, afraid of men), being trans with my dysphoria manifesting as physical detachment instead of any actual "ew ugh bad" like I hear from most trans guys, and me liking to crossdress which confused the crap out of me because how valid am I if I'm a pan, trans, over-empathic man who doesn't feel bad in a dress once in a while? Step one: float around the idea of cosplaying and experimenting with presentation. If there's gender euphoria, it'll usually be found there. If she has internet access, tell her to make up a new profile that fits with her gender identity and see if being treated as a woman floats her boat. Gender identity is about what feels GOOD too, not just what feels BAD. Step two: (This is where the depression part for me might be useful for your sister) Identify any thoughts that aren't her own. Internalized thoughts are what I learned to track down because of depression (the thoughts going "you're fat", "you're lazy", that if you think about it aren't *yours* but things you've heard from others and your brain latched on), and they're vital to identify and counter. Intrusive thoughts from her E.D. might also fall in that category of thoughts to learn to detect, inspect, and discard. (Generally intrusive thoughts go away with that technique of self-introspection, since you learn to tell your brain to stop obsessing over these. Searching up how to manage intrusive thoughts and Jungian shadow theory might help there.) Step three: It takes time to figure out identity, and hostility will probably make her try to retreat and go back. Make sure that you encourage her and drive home the point that whatever her gender identity, she is still, at her core, the same person, and gender identity is whatever makes her happy. She's allowed to be confused and to revise her gender identity if it turns out she doesn't feel like she fits, sometimes it's a Goldilocks thing where you gotta try everything before you find the "just right" label. (Speaking there as a dude who hid in the NB forest for almost 5 years, because I was unsure due to toxic masculinity until I figured out what "man" and "woman" mean on a non-binary gender spectrum, and I was afraid I'd be rejected for not being manly enough.) I hope this might help out a bit, and sorry if it's all over the place...

i know that sometimes people with schizophrenia can experience command hallucinations that might tell them to do something or just voices throwing negative stuff at them from what i heard from people with schizophrenia, even when their condition is treated sometimes voices never go away, it just becomes easier to do reality checks and ignore hallucinations whatever your sis goes through just show her a lot of empathy and love, she's going through a lot and probably needs to be heard and at least one person who can understand her experiences it seems a little bit weird that shes being treated for an eating disorder but you havent mentioned treating schizophrenia? mental health issues like this are incredibly difficult topic so id say ask her and her therapist about everything

Came down to the comments specifically to see if anybody else had noticed.

Thank you! I was astounded that no one was talking about it.

Smh

Yeah, is that another phrase that it's used as an abbreviation for?

I sort of thought it was "so much hate". I've never been positive what it stood for, though, and this comment chain actually clears up why.

Fun fact: the name of Sappho's husband (from the one 10th century record that details it), Kerkylos of Andros, roughly translates to, "Dick (not the shortened form of Richard if you catch my drift) of man." Needless to say, most Historians believe this to have initially been a dirty joke recorded by a scholar seemingly unaware of its meaning in its original Greek context.

Where could I get that book? I've tried to read Shakespeare before but this sounds way more interesting than Romeo and Juliet, which I straight up didn't understand at some parts. And speaking of, it's been debated whether or not it was actually a love story or a parody of love. He might have been laughing at the idea of a straight relationship...or maybe he was lamenting his feelings about a man he couldn't have through writing.

Really? Wow, that sounds really cool.

I think that is honestly just the erasure of asexuality in history. And the heteronormativity as well. Since a lot of straight people would have just assumed romance was the same as sex.

I just wrote something similar lol. Both that and the 2 friends who chose to live together seems 100% possible, coming from an asexual, that they can work. I see no reason why you couldn't have 2 or more people working together to raise a kid. You really don't need sexual or romantic attraction to raise anything else, so why a kid? You just need a good healthy relationship whether it's family or friends. I babysat for other people so how much of that was romantic or sexual? None of it lol. But that's just an asexuals thought process XD

Yes, that would be very fun.

*payback yes*

I sort of do this already at work? I refer to shopping companions as friends most of the time. I don't think The Straights notice on that small a scale though.

it would honestly be ✨beautiful✨ Jamie and shaba, very close *roommates*

@@r.7530 "dearly beloved, we are gathered here today to witness the union of these two roommates..."

That sounds really interesting...

Do it

Is it OK if I take inspiration/use this idea (with credit of course)

@@toxiwashere sure! I doubt your story would be too similar to mine, even if our premises are similar. Absolutely, go for it!

Maybe someday he’ll meet his prince. Until then, we all stan Ian McKellen.

It's Patrick Stewart. Change my mind!

@@tinnagigja3723 I think Ian loves Patrick romantically but Patrick loves Ian more like a brother. Their strong friendship is based on being able to appreciate and respect each other's feelings while not necessarily sharing them in the same way.

(This is a response to several other replies on this comment) In 2013, Ian officiated Patrick's marriage to jazz musician Sunny Ozell (a woman, they are together to this day). I've never seen anything to seriously suggest Ian has ever had romantic feelings for Patrick (or vice versa), with any public mention of them as a couple being a joke they're both in on. Sometimes friends are just friends, and we should leave them be. I do hope Ian finds his Prince Charming someday!

he was indeed very angry when she was taken away from him - and i think (if i understood correctly) that it is not because he likes/loves her as a partner, but because it was an offense and he values his glory more than almost everything - Patroclus being the exception, hence his reaction? so it underlines the unique connection they share anyway (and i find funny the fact that Achilles and Patroclus' relationship is still a topic today - i mean Socrates debated about that and the status of their relation is still unclear)

@@nouspartimes No no, I definitely agree with it, but I think thinking of any ancient Greek relationships in modern terms is a bit misleading, and ignores the most fascinating aspects of their culture and human sexuality. Achilles was in love with Patroclus and wanted Briseis as his concubine - that's more or less what men did at the time. They even thought men who were only attracted to women were "less manly". I think it says a lot about both cultural attitudes around sexuality and how many more people would explore different aspects of their sexuality if cultural restraints are removed.

I heard somewhere that missing the ashes of husband and wife was a common funerary practice in Ancient Greece. I haven't verified that, however.

Got me in the first half, not gonna lie.

PFFFFT- That's amazing. Gay Eurasia is ten thousand times better than gay erasure.

I'm transfem, I have not released gas in the last 2 years confirmed

Actually that’s how you tell someone is trans. I’m AMAB but haven’t pooped, farted, or burped since birth. That was how I knew.

@Dapper MrJack jesus christ

Yeah because women does not have bowel movement. That's a scientific fact.

@@UmbraKrameri I can't tell if you didn't get the satire or if you're playing along. If the latter is true please feel free to woooosh me

That's absolutely amazing.

Y e a h, I mean most of the community is steamrolling her but she won't leave.

@@toxiwashere wait, who is "she"?? sorry i'm not in the furry community nor interact with people so i don't know what is going on-

Yeah, in contexts such as this one "Sappho" refers to the Greek poet Sappho of Lesbos. Well known as an early LGBTQ historical figure and the origin of the words "lesbian" and "sapphic"

@@OhWellHereGoesMyLife someone named hypnotist Sappho "came out" as a zoophile (someone attracted to animals) and compared it to being part of the lgbt+ community, and THEN went and made a zoophile donation page, the community doesn't like her but she won't go.

@@fluffystuff500 Yeye, Greek Sappho good, Hypnotist Sappho bad.

I meant rainbow in the lesbian pride colours….!!! Dx oops!! I’m sorry!!! Dx

Oh god. Oh god no. I feel sorry for you.

*c o u s i n s* *c l o v e r w a y*

I’m wondering how clueless clerk would have reacted if you answered “not yet, but we’re hoping someone here can help us change that”

As a German the others could be platonic but I don't thing heißgeliebt is platonic

@@someperson8188 I agree „Mein heißgeliebtes, allersüßestes Lieslein, Lieblein, Herzlein!“ does for sure not sound straight and they wrote each other for about 25 years…

Can you translate please?

@@fluffystuff500 "Herzensmädchen", "Herzlein" and "Lieblein" are old variations of pet names like "sweety", "darling" etc. "heißgeliebt" means something like "dearly beloved", however "heiß" literally means "hot" and can be used in German the same way as in English, including calling someone "hot". So it might be read as "hotly beloved", too. "ich küsse dich innigst" means "I'm kissing you dearly/deeply" "mein heißgeliebtes, allersüßestes Lieslein, Lieblein, Herzlein" means "my dearly beloved, sweetest Lieslein, darling, sweety"

@@joschisaurus182 thank you

Do you know the name of that anime?

​@@morningshine6062 it's "jojo's bizarre adventure"! in the video it's part 5, which is my favorite, highly recommend, hehe~

😂😂 okay thanks for telling me

@@morningshine6062 no prob x)

I was really hoping for this!

That'd probably be it.

“Aron and Jeff were good friends, so good in fact that Aron’s knees quivered at the thought of Jeff holding him.”