Noam Chomsky On COVID-19 And His New Book: Internationalism Or Extinction 

I wrote to Dr. Chomsky four years ago, a question about local politics. He got back to me within a week.

The interviewer never interrupted Noam. That is how I like interviewers to procede. Well done.

I wrote him a little letter once asking him if he was getting tired of fighting the good fight for 50 years. To my suprise, a few months later, he wrote back saying a little progress or change was the result, and it was worth it.

This is a great interviewer. He has the gift of listening.

As always, thank you Sir Chomsky! The scariest movement at the present moment, are people being idolized for their cruelty.....

Appreciate all you guys do to expose the truth.

I must say, I really like how the Real News Networks depicts the headlines of articles that backup what Chomsky is saying. Thank you!

Chomsky is the most valuable individual alive today. His genius, his integrity, his commitment, his candour, his unremitting and realistic hope despite all the odds, his wealth and depth of knowledge and argument, his contribution to a knowledge of the language faculty and through it an understanding of human potential and human limits, etc, etc are a priceless and ever-green education for mankind. That he is considered by many in the US and the world is a comment on the state of the US and the world. He has no heroes and mentors but he is extraordinarily generous in his appreciation and praise of millions of who have made their invaluable contributions to demonstrating that progress is possible and has happened even though the world is becoming more and more dangerous because of stupid and evil people who subscribe to Adam Smith's description of the "masters of the world" whose motto still continues: all for us and nothing for the rest. I cannot believe that anyone who deliberately ignores or rejects Chomsky can be a good person, especially if they wield any kind of authority, influence, or power. That may be an exaggeration, but not by much.

This man restores my faith in humanity!

Totally agree, what a nice interview. Here in Guatemala we admire Noam Chomsky a lot. Good health to this man!

Noam is so brilliant

I've been a long time conservative when it comes to politics... People like Mr. Chomsky, and even Edward Snowden have really made me question this. Great interview!

In 1967 my family moved to Canada. I was 14. It was the first time I was exposed to how hated America & America was. It's a 1000 times worse now.

Generous, thoughtful interviewer. Profoundly articulate interviewee.

Phenomenal professor Noam Chomsky, you have been the greatest teacher of our time. Your explanations of social issues are so accurate and easy to observe. I wonder why our major media is not covering same issues!?

Noam Chomsky is as much on point as he's ever been!🧠🤟

This man is national hero.

Here's what worries me about the last few interviews with chomsky: he is usually very reserved when calling out trump choosing to point out the underlying factors rather then focusing on the man. Now, he's calling out trump specifically separate of the awful dealings of the gop. In addition he's more reminiscent of the state of the world during his youth. It feels almost like a man who realized while his calculations were correct about a coming catastrophe, the catastrophe is actually closer than he predicted.

Noam Chomsky is pure jem. Love always hearing from him. God bless him and keep him healthy.

Why not ask him some current questions like : How do you feel about a cashless society? Is massive surveillance a good idea? is pure capitalism a good idea (not crony capitalism.)? Can Socialism become crony Socialism? Which of the two offers more freedom of choice. Do the big banks have a liberal or conservative agenda and why? Should we have gone in to Libya. Should we be involved in foreign entanglements. Is a central World government safe or could it become corrupt. Can any system become corrupt? Is it a good idea for corporations to influence government, example, big Pharma. Would they have the same influence under Socialism? Is it possible to control favoritism under any of two systems? Can a government become corrupt to the point of being hostile to its population? Should the oppressed population have the means to protect itself when there is no way to reason? What could be the way to do this when there is absolutely no possible way to reason on a intellectual or logical level? The questions can go on and on. These are all important points that can go very very deep if one considers the complexities of human beings. Those in government are not geniuses, and even geniuses have faults. These where all the questions our founders of this country asked, plus a thousand more. It took 10 years to write and think these questions through. to come up with our constitution. How does Chomsky stand on all of this. Is he really that profound, equal to the sum of all the minds that put this constitution together. No one should be idolized only questioned.

Thank you Noam for taking time still at this age to safe the humanity and our world. Always amazing to listen to you.

Thanks, RNN. #FreeTheTruth

What an outstanding interview. Great joy to see Chomsky on TRN for such a generous commentary. Thanks for all the work you guys at TRN are doing - so very important in these times of crisis.

Why would a corporation create a rainy day fund if they realize that they'll be bailed out by the government at the first sign of trouble?

"God Bless Naom Chomsky Very Enlightening Man Best Of Respects To Him✌

"The major corporations are throwing away their copies of Ayn Rand... Appealing to the nanny state to bail them out" - 😆

Everyone who is intelligent enough to recognize the threat needs to do something to make a real change .... don't say you can't just do it .

Long life Mr Chomsky, you are one the best philosopher in the new era

Wow nice, two of my favourites in the same video, Noam and Marc! Thanks!

It would help those for whom english is a learned language to place subtitles in english, since a good measure of what Chomsky is saying does not come out clear at all and many words are lost. Subtitles please

The book Dark Money by Jane Mayer should be required reading for anyone interested in understanding how we got to where we are today from the original intent and idea of the foundation of our country in terms of our government and who holds the power.

Noam Chomsky is remarkably articulate and, as always, he has done a remarkable critical analysis of the neoliberal capitalist roots of America’s (and by extension, the world’s problems). Having said that, I think that he falls short on offering solutions to the problem, relying far too much on political pressure by citizen activists to instigate change and far too little on individual initiative, innovation and diffusion to affect the same. I will give you my example. For years, as an insider in both government and industry, I pushed hard for reform and change, jeopardizing my career to do so, with little or no lasting effects. I finally gave up, quit, moved to the middle of the National Forest, and set up an off-grid homestead. I now sell my excess solar power to the power company. No electric bill. I have a septic tank and composting toilets. No sewer bill. I harvest my rainwater from my roofs and collect my runoff in my swales and ponds. No water bill. I reuse, upcycycle or recycle my trash. No trash collection bill. I grow all my own fruits, berries and vegetables and raise chickens, ducks, catch fish (from my pond) and hunt deer (in the Forest) for protein. No grocery bill. I still drive my gasoline powered truck, but I sequester so much Carbon in my orchard trees and perennial shrubs and in the Biochar that I produce and add to my soil (to enrich and restore its productivity), that I am net Carbon neutral. No Carbon emissions. I have a human electric cargo bicycle that I designed and built and charge on my property and I plan to expand my solar array so that I can charge an electric vehicle. No vehicle fuel costs. I have some tiny houses that I rent seasonally to hunters, fisherman and agri-/eco-/adventure tourists to offset my property taxes and what’s left of my construction loan. When they are not in use for that purpose, I use them to house students to intern on my farm and take my classes. In short, I have no bills. More importantly, I am essentially independent of BOTH big business AND big government. Because I am not economically dependent upon them for ANY of my needs, I cannot be controlled or manipulated by them and am free to vote my conscious. I am not a hermit, I operate a consulting firm and participate in the economy, but all the money that I earn by doing so is pure gravy, and I can work as much or as little as I like. I have freedom AND everyone else can too. (In fact, part of my consulting business is to design other similar homesteads and to teach other people how to live like I already do - that’s the diffusion part). If everyone were to do what I am doing, the elites that are currently running their lives would be in deep S**T as their would be no one to economically support and serve them. In short, they would find themselves reduced to what they actually are, a useless prehensile tail that is best removed or otherwise disposed of. The most important lesson that the American people need to learn is that these elites only have their power because they, the people, let them have it! The solution is to stop giving to them. Just turn your damn backs on them, vote with your feet and ignore them. In fact, that’s how I would deal with Trump. Shun the man, stop talking about him, ignore him completely, act as though he doesn’t exist, and ignore everything that he says and does. Don’t obey anything that he says. If Americans did that, Trump would have the power that he actually has. None!

loved the way the interviewer led Noam talk.

This interview of Noam as well as the Democracy Now! interview have been like a ray of light to my soul. I don't know his health situation, but if I did, I'd speculate that he's seen his health rebound in the last month or so, as evidenced by the cogency of his responses in both interviews.

Right on Real News. This man is a treasure to society. I have great respect for this man. I salute you Real News , for having him on your show. Good-stuff👍👍🤜🤛

Chomsky is the best. I could listen to him for hours.

Always like listening to Noam.

Malignant narcissism rules america!

I”m continually impressed by Dr. Chomsky’s brilliant recall even in his later years. I only hope to have such an expansive, dynamic mind! Thank you Dr. Chomsky for modeling for me sane wisdom!

Thank you for sharing this interview.

The best. I am so impressed.

"When you shoot a lot of arrows ,you are bound to hit the target" Noam

great interview, great content . Thanks

Amazing interview amazing wisdom Noam Chomsky your legacy is: "the habitual steps crosser"

It is always good to hear Chomsky's take on the current moment. But what did you guys do with Paul Jay - he was very good and seems to have disappeared.

I could never spend an hour with this man. I’ll need a year at least. Imagine being his assistent, getting a first hand account of his experiences and knowledge. What a man!

Excellent interview -one of the best of Noam’s presentations.

Thanks Noam as always, and great interview

Great interview 👍

Chomsky is a national treasure. Who will pick up the mantle after he eventually moves on to a higher plane of existence?

Will play for my students. Thank you!

That was pretty damn good! Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

37:55 you can hear Chomsky's dog chiming in about stock buybacks.

I don't think there has ever been a more appropriate time for activism. It's not going to be enough to simply go to the window, open it up, stick your head out, and yell, "I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore." It's time for sustained mass demonstrations of non-violent civil disobedience in the streets of D.C. (just as soon as the need for social distancing has been lifted). Millions in the streets of the nation's capital, with participants relieved at intervals by additional recruits from around the country. Unrelenting pressure in the spirit of the 60s. Dear young people: You have the most skin in the game and the most energy. Please wake up now and lead the charge!

An honour to listen to Dr Chomsky. Thank you

Forever thankful for Noam! Great

Great interview. The visuals were helpful too. Great job!

Great Man !! ☀️🌺thank you for sharing !🙏🌟

I am comforted to have wisemen like Noam Chomsky to share truth and highly educated insight. He is respected because we trust him.

Excelent talk, especially check the last few minutes for what can and must be done to prevent the coming catastrophy

Thank you, Professor Noam Chomsky! Brilliant as always!

Thank you, comrade Chomsky for your decades of work and your continuous struggle for working people throughout the world. Thank you to the journalists at The Real News for informing, educating, and fighting against the powers that be. Education is one of the most important services that a society can and must provide for its citizens. Mainstream media has completely failed its people and continues to do so and providing true and accurate information to working people is absolutely essential to having a democratic and intelligent society. Keep up the struggle, comrades. Toward victory always!

We need more brilliant people like this advising companies and governments. He’s the guy in the room who won’t tell them what they want to hear but what they need to hear.

Prof Chompsky I have the utmost admiration for you. I am so grateful that young people are reaching out to you. I pray from the depths of my soul that we can preserve a world that they can exist in. My time has been lived but not over. It is our responsibility to provide for the children and the children’s children. Older persons have experience and wisdom that is an extremely valuable commodity ☮️

How will the young react when they find out wegive aid to all sorts of othernationsbut won:t fund education criminaljustice, poostal service and social security.

We're in big trouble here.

Noam Chomsky, brilliant and intellectually honest. Thank you for a brilliant analysis.

Thank you Marc and Professor Chomsky.

“... a real malignancy of an unprecedented kind.”

5:34 good one “stabbing every one in the back”, ironicly alluding to the Nazi slogan “stabbed in the back”.

Always enlightening to listen to a great mind.

I don't always agree with Noam, but he inspires me so much. Impressive. If I do/think half of what he accomplished in my own lifetime, I will be satisfied.

trump has been gaslighting since day one.

Whoa, Reagan legalized stock buybacks and tax havens?!? I did not know that.

Fabulous interview. Thank you.

Thank you!

Trump 2015: “I think - I think, for me, nuclear is just the power, the devastation is very important to me.”

91 years old, and my whole knowledge couldn't fill 1% of his brilliant brain, Iwish you good health and luck kind sir "

Thank you for this!!!!

Outstanding discussion! See if you can get Aaron Bastani on to talk about his book "Fully Automated Luxury Communism". I'll be getting Noam's book.

I'm 65 years old and I have been extremely appreciative of the work of Noam Chomsky. I am somewhat confused/dismayed by his lack of research into the actual facts, statistics, etc., with regards to this 'brand new' pandemic, COVID-19: 1) The misuse of Kary Mullis' PCR (Polymerase Chain Reaction) test as an indicator of "infection". 2) The extreme number of 'false positives' and 'false negatives' the PCR produces. 3) The misleading record of deaths of preexisting conditions that are lumped into the outcome of COVID-19 fatalities 4) The insane history of professional "virus hunters" that led to extreme misdiagnosis and deadly treatments... many myths that continue today 5) The outrageous criminal record of the WHO (World Health Organization), CDC (Center for Disease Control), FDA (Food and Drug Administration), NIH (National Institute of Health), and even Dr. Anthony Fauci. Blindly accepting that this "pandemic" is real without criticism and critical scientific peer reviews is SCIENCE BY NEWS CONFERENCE.... the fact that Google/RU-vid, Facebook, etc., is censoring dissent should be directly up Mr. Chomsky's alley..... I hope that he and other powerful/influential/leftwing/radical thinkers will address these issues soon.... (I actually appreciate Jon Rappoport for his efforts in this madness)

Mark missed you, where have you been?

I am blessed with five granddaughters aged 5 to 12 yo. Watching them grow is blighted by the irresistible conviction that the demise of humanity is imminently inevitable.

This is the best interview ive seen of Chomsky, massive respect to the interviewer for just listening. So incredibly sad though, what the heck can we do... I also just dont understand why anyone would ever want anyone else to not be free and happy.

20 white nationalist took a break from Fox news to give this a thumbs down..

Amazing insight at any age, especially 93

Noam Chomsky I always listen to him twice.

Even with all that doom, Noam gives hope and inspiration to move towards a better way. Great interview! 👌

Yes, it will be "internationalism or extinction." There was once a prominent US progressive who also advocated "Internationalism," Henry A Wallace. If people listened to Wallace, back then, we could have avoided the costly, dangerous, decades-long Cold War. Now the stakes are far more costly, more dangerous, irreparable and terminal, will we listen to Chomsky and others who advocate internationalism?

The Man The Myth The Legend. Heros get remembered but Legends like Noam Chomsky never die.

I’m so grateful for every single word that I hear from this most respectable, highly intelligent, social activist, humanitarian and philosopher 🕊. (As difficult as it is to understand American corporations that actively destroy lives of people, animals and earth. )

First SARS was in 2003. 2. MERS was 2012. 3. In 2013 the German Bundestag discussed disaster scenarios: how Germany prepares for disasters, e.g. floods. In this context, it was also discussed how Germany must react to a future SARS pandemic! Yes, in 2013 the German Bundestag simulated a SARS corona pandemic in Europe and Germany! 4 In 2015, an experimental joint paper was published by researchers from three US universities, Wuhan and an Italian researcher from Varese, who has a laboratory in Bellinzona. They produced synthetically produced corona viruses in the laboratory and infected cell cultures and mice with them. The reason for the work: they wanted to produce a vaccine or monoclonal antibodies in order to be prepared for the next corona pandemic. 5 At the end of 2014, the US government had suspended research on MERS and SARS for a year because of the danger to humans. 6. In 2015 Bill Gates gave a widely respected speech saying that the world is unprepared for the next corona pandemic. 7. 2016 another research paper was published which dealt with corona viruses. The "summary" of this publication must be melted in your mouth, because it is the perfect description of what is currently going on: "Focusing on SARS-like CoVs, the approach indicates that viruses using the WIV1-CoV spike protein are capable of infecting human alveolar endothelium cultures directly without further spike adaptation. Whereas in vivo data indicate attenuation relative to SARS-CoV, the augmented replication in the presence of human angiotensin converting enzymes type 2 in vivo suggests that the virus has significant pathogenic potential not captured by current small animal models. 8. in March 2019, the epidemiological study by Peng Zhou from Wuhan stated that, partly due to the biology of corona viruses in bats ("bat") in China, it can be predicted that there will soon be a renewed corona pandemic. For sure! One could just not say exactly when and where, but China will be the hot-spot. COVID 19 - It is a synthetic laboratory virus, because this is exactly what has been researched and the biological mechanism of pathogenesis has already been described in detail in 2016. The virologists who were consulted of course deny this possibility, but they also cannot exclude it, as can be read in the recently published "Nature Medicine": "The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2" by Kristian Andersen. From the work of Dr. Paul Robert Vogt, published April 18, 2020 - Politik

I wish Trump was capable of understanding Chomsky!

"Depressing" now has a new meaning. Holy sh*t.

Wise man. Great interview. Thank you.

Thank you for this video.

I swear, Noam Chomsky writes a book every 3 months haha

“You’ve lived through from a young child, from Hitler to now,” My pop’s is pushing 70. He can’t say that. I respect my pop’s, but he’s no Chomsky. Just to have a one hour convo with Noam. That would be so awesome...

Good to see and hear you Noam.

What a monument Noam is to human freedom, i wish he would re-write my Universal Constitution