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@donmiguelio1351
@donmiguelio1351 2 года назад
Joe: You’re giving it a 5? I thought you said it was the best episode. Alex: Correct.
@tryingosling
@tryingosling 2 года назад
savage
@nicobenji0248
@nicobenji0248 2 года назад
Alex: "I don't need to set me up for a sequel". I agree with this statement soo much. That is the most annoying thing about the Disney formula. They really need to focus on the present story and not what it's "going to be"
@Dudrion
@Dudrion 2 года назад
they dont give a fuq,its about money. as long as there are idiots gobbling it up, no need for changes.
@PikeBishop1
@PikeBishop1 2 года назад
You're looking at it from the point of view of a fan/viewer with discretion. The model is not to make evergreen media that will be enjoyed for multiple viewings and for a long way down the road, it is literally just a content assembly line. Consume content, wait for next content. So far it works. The unthinking consumers just see easter eggs and the jangling nostalgia keys and seal clap.
@johnniewaiker6203
@johnniewaiker6203 2 года назад
Marvel really exploited this successfully. People sitting through the credits just to get a glimpse for the next movie. Now you sick and tired of it because you hate Disney but you will complain when marvel doesn't give you a satisfying cliffhanger or sequel bait. This is a thing for a long long time in very much movies. it is not a Disney formula your hate makes you a whinner
@PikeBishop1
@PikeBishop1 2 года назад
@@johnniewaiker6203 Marvel is Disney. What they did, prior to phase bore, was set up a connected cinematic universe through each successive film. Nothing lasts forever though and that formula more or less ran its course, on top of the increasingly glaring creative bankruptcy present in their writing rooms. What the MCU did was not "sequel baiting" which is exactly what the endless content factories are now. One of the Russo brothers even came out a while back saying Marvel/Disney had no plan just like Daisy Ridley said about the sequels. To hold something to a standard is not hating. To hold something to a high standard is to love something and want greatness from it. So if you want to say we are simply "haters" then we can your rationalizing and blind acceptance makes you a pushover and a dupe.
@cliffchai3742
@cliffchai3742 2 года назад
@@johnniewaiker6203 The difference with Marvel is that it gives you a decent story with a glimpse of upcoming content, while Disney gives you a subpar story with a glimpse of upcoming content.
@freman007
@freman007 2 года назад
"The execution of her character wasn't well done." No it wasn't. She survived.
@greebj
@greebj 2 года назад
Probably assumed that getting run through with a lightsaber was a fatal wound, but that's what plot armor is for
@Shocknfunk
@Shocknfunk 2 года назад
Reality was : 100% chance to hit with a 100% crit rate with saber. Stab with a successful connection animation. Outcome: grazed took only 2 damage out of 50
@frankdatank2304
@frankdatank2304 2 года назад
Is that what they meant or execution as it pertains to the story?
@rmcgowa1987
@rmcgowa1987 2 года назад
@Jason Clark I was thinking the exact same thing this was the perfect chance to end the episode on a decent high with Reva finally dead but no miss "amazing" must survive
@Messothelioma
@Messothelioma 2 года назад
The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities, some considered to be unnatural.
@mightymickey88gaming74
@mightymickey88gaming74 2 года назад
The fact Vader didn’t execute Reva makes the episode absolutely horrible. Vader literally killed an Admiral because he jumped too close to a planet, you think he wouldn’t kill a Force user they know to be powerful and he knew wanted to kill him when they literally have an order of Inquisitors who’s sole purpose is to scour the Galaxy to extinguish the Jedi. It was pathetic enough the grand inquisitor didn’t kill her for her insolence in episode 1 or 2 (the one she killed him in I don’t remember) but this was just ridiculous.
@PepeLa_
@PepeLa_ 2 года назад
My thoughts exactly, when he stood over her with the two lightsabers I was like OHH SHIT he's gonna chop her head off. Nope, he stabbed her in the stomach, at that point I was like ehh maybe it'll still kill her because that's how Qui-gon died. But no of course she survived, I'm actually pissed because there's no shot the real Vader would've let her live. Disney star wars is a knock off and I don't even see it as canon lmao.
@firestarter000001
@firestarter000001 2 года назад
Exactly. Also the fact that Reva was sent to catch Obi Wan would never ever happen: If Vader knew Obi Wan was there, he would go there himself, nothing would stop him.
@TheEveryDayC
@TheEveryDayC 2 года назад
@@PepeLa_ yeah i was bothered he didn't pull a dooku on her
@spunkinater
@spunkinater 2 года назад
Because disney mandated diversity in its characters they are forced to go with Reva who isn't even interesting. It's the Reva show staring Obi Wan. Same thing happened to Hawkeye. Tired of this company ruining existing IPs.
@zach6915
@zach6915 2 года назад
Similar to a criticism I had with Book of Boba. All these goons and assassins trying to take him out, instead of killing them he gives them jobs.
@John_Locke_108
@John_Locke_108 2 года назад
Was Reva being a youngling supposed to be a shock? They telegraphed that from the beginning and then repeatedly hit you over the head with more clues that felt like anvils.
@Shocknfunk
@Shocknfunk 2 года назад
They probably assumed that if you thought the kid was reva cuz she was the only black kid there, you were racist so you just had to assume it was coincidence so now ur allowed to gasp and scream knowing she was in fact the kid.
@John_Locke_108
@John_Locke_108 2 года назад
@@Shocknfunk 😂
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 2 года назад
dun dun dunnnnnn!
@bobhanson1037
@bobhanson1037 2 года назад
Yeah yet the fan base was ripping her character apart bitching about who the fuck she was and how does vader not know she knows who he is.
@erikhendrickson59
@erikhendrickson59 2 года назад
@@Shocknfunk How Ridiculous: "We Dropped An Obi-wan Clue from 165m!"
@SwanyPlaysGames
@SwanyPlaysGames 2 года назад
The writing in this show is so disappointing.
@CantRead1
@CantRead1 2 года назад
Your a Star Wars fan. That's the only emotion you know lmaooo.
@cliffchai3742
@cliffchai3742 2 года назад
"The most disappointing thing since my son!" - Mr. Plinkett
@Disruptuer
@Disruptuer 2 года назад
This episode has incredible writing. So many parallels to a skin and obi wan. And great foreshadowing.
@thelawyerfrommars
@thelawyerfrommars 2 года назад
@@Disruptuer lmao
@creatorsfreedom6734
@creatorsfreedom6734 2 года назад
Reva did bad thing , reva was youngling now all is forgivin - w/e
@343Films
@343Films 2 года назад
Holy fuck dude, imagine Qui Gon pops up outta nowhere and says, "I never actually died, I was just hiding amongst the bodies after Maul stabbed me"
@ThunderDragonRandy
@ThunderDragonRandy Год назад
This comment gives me Mega Man X6 flashbacks to Zero surviving X5's good ending. lol
@TheRavenArchon
@TheRavenArchon 2 года назад
See, now, there were problems with this episode, but what is most grievous about this episode was the potential it showed that the whole series COULD have had. Imagine if the WHOLE SHOW had been Obi-wan helping the rebels while playing mind chess with Vader and they never actually engaged with each other because Obi was always a step ahead, and every episode also had flash back segments to various lessons Obi tried to teach Anakin that parallel the episode. Also watching Vader catch a freighter with his mind and then tear it's hull apart with a swipe of his hand was pretty sick, gotta admit.
@David-ys4ud
@David-ys4ud 2 года назад
They had to focus too much on reva
@jslaughter95
@jslaughter95 2 года назад
it was pretty sick, but at the cost of them making Vader simultaneously looking like a fucking moron for not seeing the other ship sitting right behind it until it took off. Why would he have not crashed the first ship into the other ship JUST TO BE SURE?! The real win of the episode though, was Vader kicking Reva's ass without even needing to draw his own blade.
@daneg
@daneg 2 года назад
I would argue the most grievous problem with this episode was the fact that Bail Organa left a message on Obi-wan's defacto ANSWERING MACHINE...THAT ANYONE CAN "READ"...that Luke is in hiding on Tattooine. 🤨
@Liofa73
@Liofa73 2 года назад
It's a light entertainment show... chill...
@godzilla234ful
@godzilla234ful 2 года назад
What I think they were trying to do, but kinda failed is show how far obi-wan has lost his way since episode 3. People complain “oh he’s like sequel luke skywalker.” Yes he is but this time it makes sense. The whole Jedi order got wiped out basically because of him and he is tortured by it. The thing is they kinda didn’t show much of that after part 3 which stinks
@WokeWok
@WokeWok 2 года назад
If Reva was trying to stealth kill Vader then she failed miserably from the get-go by screaming lol
@Revan-eb1wb
@Revan-eb1wb 2 года назад
Just think about it. Years of plotting against anakin and her big plan was to sneak up upon the strongest force user in the whole star wars universe. It is embarrassing.
@bldontmatter5319
@bldontmatter5319 2 года назад
@@Revan-eb1wb yeah, everyone knows how powerful he is. Can't believe the writers thought this was a good idea. New Star wars writers are room-temp IQ
@Revan-eb1wb
@Revan-eb1wb 2 года назад
@@bldontmatter5319 the writers just dont care. That is the problem
@bldontmatter5319
@bldontmatter5319 2 года назад
@@Revan-eb1wb well, they're getting paid. Its like Alex said: keep the hype going, never satsify the customer
@1978pq
@1978pq 2 года назад
@@Revan-eb1wb The Lead Writer Admitted to Never Watching Revenge of the Sith.
@ryanbolton7963
@ryanbolton7963 2 года назад
I feel like the show called Obi-Wan has to be focused on Obi-Wan. They should dived deeper into the trauma and guilt that he has after order 66. He should be shown reconnecting with the force and finding balance. I feel like Reva should have been contained in its own show. Revas story does not need to have Obi-Wan in it and it could be ANY jedi and it would not change. It feels like they tried to shove the ideas in two separate shows (arguably both great by themselves).
@morgezorge6387
@morgezorge6387 2 года назад
Obi Wan is white, equity divervsity and inclusion is anti white, what made you think that this show would center a white?
@yuh9157
@yuh9157 2 года назад
Reva would've been a good stand alone show to give her character depth and it would be interesting having detailed episodes of her doing terrible things but only for her one motivation to try to get close and kill vader. It would be a great way to have a star wars show where the main character isn't a good guy. And it would also be an interesting way to see someone apposing the empire without being connected to the creation of the rebellion or a member of the rebellion. Plus a show about an Inquisitor would also be interesting and a story like this would make sense since Inquisitors were former Jedi/padawan and a lot of them probably lost a lot of friends during order 66 so of course at least some of them would want revenge on palpatine or vader. They could've made her own show with her convincing some other Inquisitors to defect and try to take down vader/palpatine from the inside only to fail kind of like operation Valkyrie during ww2
@kylesawkon4074
@kylesawkon4074 2 года назад
She’s a token character, Disney is racist
@theyfearme1379
@theyfearme1379 2 года назад
@@yuh9157 Yeah but get a better actor she's terrible, I'm sorry I don't buy her at all even if the directing is bad. She's hopeless as an actress she needs to pursue something else
@jamiehall-hanlon3104
@jamiehall-hanlon3104 2 года назад
I really don’t get why they felt the need to add Reva? Like why do they do this, it’s obvious that most people won’t like it and would be extremely hard to pull off. Why do they do it?
@BasementPepperoni
@BasementPepperoni 2 года назад
The fact that Reva knows that Darth Vader is Anakin Skywalker, and Darth Vader KNOWS THAT SHE KNOWS his true identity and didn't immediately kill her completely ruined this series for me. I haven't watched any of it since the first episode. There is just so much god awful fan fiction I can handle.
@Obelion_
@Obelion_ 2 года назад
wouldve been 10 times cooler if reva acutally attacked vader during his force thing, then thanks to her obi wan escapes and she doesnt look like an idiot. would also make the audience like reva a lot more because she kinda saved the day
@gabetrinidad1016
@gabetrinidad1016 2 года назад
Yes, that’s a simple idea that would have actually worked!
@PeterGriffin-rp9iq
@PeterGriffin-rp9iq 2 года назад
Damn we had the same exact idea. It really is that obvious. WE should’ve been the writers of this show lmao
@pvtred
@pvtred 2 года назад
See, this is what we should hoping for with her character. I'm tired of people defending Reva as if her character was perfect and everyone who criticises her are racists. She had a lot of potential for being a fantastic character but all these directorial decisions and the writing holds that potential so far back.
@dr_cachetes6822
@dr_cachetes6822 2 года назад
No, fk Reva she was annoying af, shouldve got slaughtered, like gory slaughtered by vader.
@austinlarrimore6542
@austinlarrimore6542 2 года назад
I’d still hate her character tho tbh🤣
@karoln7078
@karoln7078 2 года назад
The most stupid thing in this episode was stormtroopers trying to shoot through the door and then reva just opens it with her lighrsabour like nothing happened 🤦‍♂️
@TheChrissyMoltisanti
@TheChrissyMoltisanti 2 года назад
Ik right. Like she couldn’t have thought of that before?
@TheDrewBlaze1
@TheDrewBlaze1 2 года назад
Sounds about right, with this trash writing I’m not surprised … like even force powers aren’t consistent and are only used to move the plot
@sabelo67
@sabelo67 2 года назад
that shit pissed me off so bad my neighbor sent me a message to check if im alright
@fluent4530
@fluent4530 2 года назад
Bruh come on guys please think with your heads this time. The door was already weakened from them blasting on it doofuses do you guys have working eyes?
@CoOlKyUbI96
@CoOlKyUbI96 2 года назад
For as bad as this episode was, I think this is probably along the less glaring plot holes. There are way worse ones to mention. It is very possible and likely that the door was only able to be cut with a lightsaber AFTER it got weakened from being blasted
@thetruth9807
@thetruth9807 2 года назад
Alex: "What was the point of this series?" Joe: "To introduce Reva to the lore." *Bingo*
@yarpen26
@yarpen26 2 года назад
An indispensable addition to the franchise. I'm sure she will get at least one cameo per every consecutive decade.
@jaydos4678
@jaydos4678 2 года назад
You guys are 100% right. 5/10 is being generous. This has some of the most contrived writing I’ve ever seen. So many plot holes, bad dialogue, generic music, lore breaking bullshit. Anyone defending this is being nostalgia baited. Yes, it’s cool seeing Vader and the flashbacks of anakin…but all of that can’t make up for the absolutely horrendous script and direction.
@vintageoriginallegit
@vintageoriginallegit 2 года назад
1 episode was bad rest are decent to good
@GiltleyRage
@GiltleyRage 2 года назад
Every episode is like more stupid shit. Yeah they did many things right on recent one and yet this episode left me with more questions than infamous episode 4. Why Bail Organa sent Obi-Wan message with so much specifics about the children? Wasn't it too reckless? How did he know Vader will be looking for kids, is he aware that Vader is Anakin and he's alive? Obi-Wan learned recently that he didn't die on Mustafar. Why Obi-Wan not only kept it on the comm device instead of deleting it, he just gave it to some random guy he barely know? These things are not even passwords protected apparently and you can just see the private messages, so wtf? Bail and Obi are supposed to protect these children and their identity and now because of their foolishness they're both in danger. How Vader knew that Reva was a youngling? Vader murdered people to keep his identity hidden, how he would keep around the sole survivor of the Jedi Temple purge who could figure out who he was? Why would Reva be so obsessed about finding Kenobi and then refuse to use him to make Vader distracted and kill him? That should've been her plan from the start right? She went that far to cut some lady's hand and threaten to kill the entire family just to find Obi-Wan and she wanted to hand him to Vader just like that? And most important - how the hell Reva is still alive after all of this? Vader told her that she won't live to regret falling him, and yet plenty time for regret there. He should kill her instantly or let Grand Inquisitor do the honors. Instead they both just left her there with her lightsaber laying on the ground, with wound that not necessary is fatal. This is ridiculous.
@joshbridges9234
@joshbridges9234 2 года назад
Totally agree about the music. The music in Star Wars is such a key element and iconic and the music they’ve chosen for these is easily forgettable and doesn’t even sound Star Wars like
@Neags
@Neags 2 года назад
@@joshbridges9234the opening 'title credits' of Kenobi, sounds like spiderman the video game
@spankbuda7466
@spankbuda7466 2 года назад
Exactly! These 5 episodes are bad! It's just coming down to ranking how bad they are. Do anyone know why Reva have all of this anger towards Obi-Wan and not towards Vader who she knows that he's Anakin that watched him slaughtered her friends as a youngling? Why did the writers added that Reva as a youngling just laid down to play dead during Anakin slaughtering? What was the point of Vader naming Reva the new G.I. just because she somehow knew Leia was going to escape from her custody by placing a tracker in her droid? Wasn't Reva job was to track down Jedi's? What was the point of the Storm Troopers blasting the door when Reva just sliced it opened with her saber? What was the reason for Reva or the Storm Troopers being there when Vader just used the force to opened each door and pull down the ship in mid take off to dismantle it? Why didn't Vader kill Reva like what Anakin done to Count Dooku for 1. Betraying him and 2. Trying to sneak attack him to cut off his head.
@TomJohnDoe
@TomJohnDoe 2 года назад
The point everyone seems to ignore: When there was a second ship.. why the hell were they all waiting for Obi and Leja to arrive in the first place??
@djcochrane
@djcochrane 2 года назад
🤔 I took it as the route they use they figure they can use one last time and then have to change it. Or they got one last set of codes. Something like that. Not a ship issue
@michaeljeffreyjordan4966
@michaeljeffreyjordan4966 2 года назад
@@djcochrane no he’s saying that Obi Wan just turned himself in, turns around and runs back, and everyone was, just, waiting? Why, Obi Wan literally told them he was turning himself into Vader.
@djcochrane
@djcochrane 2 года назад
@@michaeljeffreyjordan4966 oh. Oh. Tommy seemed to be talking about when they got to the planet. That part on the other hand…
@S4ns
@S4ns 2 года назад
Because show needed to happen. Everything stupid in this series is "because show needed to happen". Why bother having good writing when you can just be a lazy idiot and have people give your show a 7/10.
@jakedizzle
@jakedizzle 2 года назад
My girlfriend thought same thing lol. She said, “Why is everyone not on the ship already?”
@jett_lea
@jett_lea 2 года назад
24:25 I'm glad that someone actually pointed this out. She's mad at Obi Wan for not being at the temple when it all went down, as if the jedi weren't scattered throughout the galaxy fighting a war and also getting betrayed/slaughtered.
@Marlockie
@Marlockie 2 года назад
I think she's mad at Obi-Wan for failing Anakin and allowing him to fall to the Darkside and kill her friends, she wants to kill Anakin for killing her friends... she's probably going to be killed either at seasons end for threatening Luke, where Obi will be forced to kill her.
@vongoku
@vongoku 2 года назад
What annoyed me as it annoys me in most shows. Is they make it emotional. For plot. While the 99% of us would have said. " I thought I did stop him....... I fought him.. I fought my Palawan my brother ... i believed he dead. I only accomplished making him into the very thing that haunts us now." Or anything any kind of acknowledgement woul have mad sense.
@jett_lea
@jett_lea 2 года назад
@@Marlockie maybe, and that would be totally valid. But her saying "where were you?" makes me think otherwise.
@damienhailey118
@damienhailey118 2 года назад
You think Reva was being logical in her thinking?
@RetroGhoulHQ
@RetroGhoulHQ 2 года назад
it would make loads more sense if she actually really hated and resented obi wan in this series because he was anakins master- like she could have blamed him for training anakin and saw him as just as much a monster, and it would at least make her character more understandable, even if he was betrayed the exact same way. But no, its a convoluted plan to draw vader out and the only reason she doesnt like him is because he didnt save her at the temple
@ggom603
@ggom603 2 года назад
My two favorite parts were Lola somehow opening a vent without extremities. And Tata holding the grenade instead of just throwing it, also giving her a chance of survival. How about yours?
@residenttdk007
@residenttdk007 2 года назад
Reva getting stabbed by a lightsaber not once but twice and somehow surviving both encounters. And her finding the message Bail left for Obi-Wan. Yeah, this was one of the most episodes of all time.
@kushkong1339
@kushkong1339 2 года назад
Mine has to be leading Obi Wan back into the fortress. after they had him captured. WITH ONLY 2 TROOPERS 🤣
@pvtred
@pvtred 2 года назад
If they were going to have her sacrifice herself why would they have her hold the damn grenade out in the air for all to see! That's what infuriated me. I mean jeez, what the hell is the point of sacrificing yourself then if you're trying to get the storm troopers to run from you.
@SombreroGato
@SombreroGato 2 года назад
@@residenttdk007 i will say one thing, if most of her insides were prosthesis from the first stabbing, then getting stabbed again would just mess up the metal/fake bits right? Not saying it makes it any better, just thinking about that one point logically
@greebj
@greebj 2 года назад
My favourite was the trigger warning at the start of the episode. Seeing a wounded secondary character suicide to take out a big bunch of enemies and improve their allies' chance to escape is a totally new and confronting theme never seen before in a fictitious show second was the bit where they copied the "lolz, an identical second ship!" trick that everybody loved so much from Rise of Skywalker. Soooo laaaaaaazy
@RetroGhoulHQ
@RetroGhoulHQ 2 года назад
I just thought, the vader spaceship scene would have been so much better if he had been pulling the spaceship back, and while he was distracted reva could have attacked him - he'd still sense it coming but it would have allowed the spaceship to escape, still shown his badass powers at the same time and not pulled a second ship out of no where, and third sister would have helped save them
@yadafty7671
@yadafty7671 2 года назад
That sounds so much better and makes Reva attempting to kill Vader here not completely stupid since he is clearly preoccupied.
@wailcharef5590
@wailcharef5590 2 года назад
Great idea
@ryanb6614
@ryanb6614 2 года назад
Him ripping the ship apart was pretty cool though… I think she should have attacked Vader while he was ripping the ship to shreds as it would have given them time to launch the escape ship
@RetroGhoulHQ
@RetroGhoulHQ 2 года назад
@@ryanb6614 yeah it was v cool, but they could have even had him pulling it apart in the air, then reva distracts him to stop it being pulled apart and letting them escape. that could have been a cool reason why they couldnt go to hyper space too, since vader damaged the ship too badly to manage the trip
@humzaibrahim2953
@humzaibrahim2953 2 года назад
@@RetroGhoulHQ disney doesnt know starwars lore thats the crux of it… ships moving with engines on will eventually drag the force user with them… using the force drains the body etc… this also throws up plot holes…. When luke jumped from vader in cloud city why didnt vader force lift him back up….. Similiar to the movies which now made a new force power out of thin air “force heal” im sure obi couldve saved qui gonn if force healing was a real power back then.
@lmojol9673
@lmojol9673 2 года назад
Probably my biggest gripe with this episode is the hallway scene. It’s comical how everyone is missing while practically barrel stuffing each other.
@fracturedstreak2490
@fracturedstreak2490 2 года назад
true also could not see wtf was going on either
@coltonpiper6156
@coltonpiper6156 2 года назад
Yeah it was bad. Also they new they were going to get through. So why didn’t they bring in some stuff to stand behind or something lol
@crapychanel
@crapychanel 2 года назад
A Star Wars classic
@cpolonium1121
@cpolonium1121 2 года назад
Honestly was horrible. I get it stormtroopers are bad shots but damn even a blind person could spray and hit shots at that range.
@zachrohler1047
@zachrohler1047 2 года назад
It's worse, the troopers only manage to shoot 1 single rebel and the trooper literally has to barrel stuff him in the chest. A female rebel gets shot but is rescued by obi wan so shes fine. Meaning that 1Male, the droid and tala are the only ones who died in the entire gun fight. Even the scorpion droids from boba fett wernt this bad. Atleast the droids only had 2 guns. Theres like 100 troopers who all miss
@christined8634
@christined8634 2 года назад
It's funny you mentioned Cal in the beginning of this when talking about episode 4. When I watched the beginning of episode 4, and the guy said that no one has ever been inside, I was like "yeah one guy has been." I know there were rumours of a live action Cal Kestis, and I thought this would be their way of introducing him and he guide them through. But after watching how this season is going, I'm glad they didn't. I like Cal and don't want his character to be tainted by the mediocre writing.
@EdwardGutierrez90
@EdwardGutierrez90 2 года назад
Yeah keep him out, the video games story is far superior than this crap and I am excited for the next one🔥🔥🔥
@edwardrichtofen8530
@edwardrichtofen8530 2 года назад
Lol, those stupid Disney writers probably don’t even know there is a Star Wars game for cal. Heck, even if they did they probably don’t know it’s supposed to be canon.
@christined8634
@christined8634 2 года назад
@@edwardrichtofen8530 lol no kidding. They didn't seem to know Obi Wan knew who Vader was, and the Leia didn't know him before hand, which is clear in Episode 4. She contacted him because she heard of him from her father who knew him.
@christined8634
@christined8634 2 года назад
@@EdwardGutierrez90 I agree. I have actually re-watched cut scenes from the game and found more enjoyment and entertainment out of that than the sequel trilogy. And it actually felt like Star Wars. Looking forward to the next game with Cal.
@edwardrichtofen8530
@edwardrichtofen8530 2 года назад
@@christined8634 yep, cause they HAD to shove leia in this show even though if anyone it should be about Luke. Leia just isn’t necessary. They should have made a bail organa show if they wanted to make a series about leia. Also, how dumb did that make kenobi look? Can’t believe he didn’t know Vader was alive. Did this idiot do NOTHING for the ten years he was alive?!? Didn’t even TRY to learn a bit of what the empire is doing?
@Rieneger
@Rieneger 2 года назад
Reva’s story did not need to be told because it was already done before and properly executed in Jedi Fallen Order. The Second Sister had far better believable motives and a more tragic story than Reva. Reva’s connection to Obi-Wan is so minimal that her confrontations with him come off as annoying and nonsensical. Whereas the the Second Sister’s trauma comes from a more direct betrayal that carries more weight and makes you feel remorseful for both sides of her story. They needed to give Reva someone or something to directly push her to who she is now and have more meaningful interactions with.
@kuhlbeans
@kuhlbeans 2 года назад
Well said I agree completely.
@brandonoliver5304
@brandonoliver5304 2 года назад
^^^
@yarpen26
@yarpen26 2 года назад
It's honest-to-God embarrassing how a video game which had gameplay as its actual focus rather than necessarily the plot ended up blowing a TV show out of the water in terms of writing. Probably helped that just about every major character was new to the franchise so we had no idea who'd live or die. Spoilers for the game below! Also, Vader slashed Trilla for having second thoughts about killing her former master. Not for attempting to fucking stab him in the back, for which he would have dealt her _far_ worse a punishment.
@Skarlet_Sun
@Skarlet_Sun 2 года назад
How did Reva survive being impaled with a lightsaber as a child? Or as an adult? How did the grand inquisitor survive being impaled by a lightsaber? Did the show forget what these things do? Like they forgot what fire does to a person in episode 3? The show's writing is the worst ive seen in all star wars, all of it, its insane
@famousthaneus9810
@famousthaneus9810 2 года назад
The Grand Inquisitors' race has two stomaches, that single stab was never gunna finish him off, but the show should've explained that instead of the whole "Revenge blah blah blah" thing
@erris5744
@erris5744 2 года назад
This is the stupidest complaint everyone has. It is not a leap in logic to say that Dark Side users can survive a stab. Did every last one of you forget that Maul was cut in half? I imagine it is easier to survive a stab wound that cauterizes itself than it is to survive being sliced right through the midsection. Qui-Gon died because he didn't utilize the Dark Side. Sure the writing of it isn't the best, but don't be a bunch of morons that are acting like this is completely outside the realm of possibility.
@lunadaniel16
@lunadaniel16 2 года назад
@@erris5744 darn, didnt know a jedi youngling like Reva was already a darkside user at that age to survive her first stab
@erris5744
@erris5744 2 года назад
@@lunadaniel16 I will admit that as a youngling it doesn't make sense, but some people think it didn't happen. All in all, I just think that Reva is getting much more hate than she deserves.
@matthunter983
@matthunter983 2 года назад
How did Reva survive being impaled with a lightsaber as a child?...she has protective coloring
@philipp594
@philipp594 2 года назад
I was rooting hard for Vader. I was so happy seeing her pierced by the blade and so sad seeing her alive after.
@nielsderyst
@nielsderyst 2 года назад
I still auto-assumed that she ded. I mean, getting stabbed by a lightsaber like that (weird that everyone stabbed ever, always stays perfectly still btw, we wouldn't want to see any mutilation ,right Disney), shouldn't need a second look to see if she's dead.
@SpaceGoat3126
@SpaceGoat3126 2 года назад
Most people in Star Wars die in one hit from a lightsaber unless the place struck is non lethal or if said lightsaber doesn’t cut off anything important. Sadly Disney got control and now lightsabers are barely anywhere near effective at killing people.
@mrbobo86
@mrbobo86 2 года назад
They made her survive so they can force a garbage woke spinoff.
@SpaceGoat3126
@SpaceGoat3126 2 года назад
@@mrbobo86 Oh god I heard about that too…I swear if she gets a spin-off despite the fact that most fans hate her, not dislike HATE, then we know Disney is pushing that message everywhere.
@edwardrichtofen8530
@edwardrichtofen8530 2 года назад
@@SpaceGoat3126 watch it happen. Honestly, I bet kk would do it just to spite the “toxic fans” she claims all Star Wars fans are.
@residentash7578
@residentash7578 2 года назад
So lightsaber gut wounds are no longer fatal? Neither Reva (stabbed twice) or the Grand Inquisitor wounds are mortal. But Qui-Gon dies in about five minutes?
@JohnMC61
@JohnMC61 2 года назад
Right. Too bad Han fell off the bridge in Force Awakens. He would probably have lived LOL
@mythically_odd
@mythically_odd 2 года назад
Welp we should expect to see Darth Maul defy death in the future for a 2nd time then. Obi wan just gave him a quick paper cut in the gut. he's just chilling around tattooine now. As dumb as it was having Maul survived the first time around because he just so angry, they atleast didn't waste the opportunity to flesh him out.
@deliveryman3060
@deliveryman3060 2 года назад
it’s cause he’s not a sith and doesn’t want enough revenge or something
@scottf5791
@scottf5791 2 года назад
@@JohnMC61 well Palps also fell from a bridge into a reactor right before the Death Star blows up so I believe Han is somewhere out there in the galaxy living his best life.
@CoOlKyUbI96
@CoOlKyUbI96 2 года назад
I hope Disney realizes the more characters that the more characters survive getting stabbed by a lightsaber, the flimsier and flimsier the excuses become. Because surely it seems like anyone at any skill level can survive that
@jaydaytoday3548
@jaydaytoday3548 2 года назад
Vader was confused about where TF the other transport came from. He was thinking "wait there was another one here!" "Where was it hiding?" "Where did it come from?"
@JG-bx1rc
@JG-bx1rc 2 года назад
While this episode has issues, the spinner stick thing isn't one of them. Vader doesn't cut the saber in half, its very clearly meant to detach. Like that's an intended function of the saber, meaning it can be put back together as well.
@RetroGhoulHQ
@RetroGhoulHQ 2 года назад
@@zetterburger considering he didn't use his lightsaber at all, he didnt cut it lol. Snapped at best, but they are kinda meant to detach into 2 like that
@ZrodyApo
@ZrodyApo 2 года назад
Many people clearly haven't watched or payed attention to Star Wars Rebels (I just hope they don't replicate the helicoter thing, that was ridiculous even for an animated show xD )
@MegaDudeman21
@MegaDudeman21 2 года назад
@@zetterburger How did he cut it? he literally just detached them from each other. if you look at her lightsaber up close it have a line in the middle. Showing that it can be split into 2 sabers
@JG-bx1rc
@JG-bx1rc 2 года назад
@@zetterburger nope, I just rewatched it. How would he have cut it without drawing his own blade? He simply detached it. He doesn’t cut it.
@ericprentice31
@ericprentice31 2 года назад
He reattached it off camera you can see when the grand inquisitor comes out he has it back together in his right hand...why he took the time to do that 🤷
@abandonallhope.1040
@abandonallhope.1040 2 года назад
I swear that flashback scene saved this episode and that's just a testament to the power of George Lucas. It was touching, intense, and sad. Two brothers who became enemies and didn't forgive each other until they both died.
@haifischh
@haifischh 2 года назад
Definitely the highlight of the episode for sure
@LizardSpork
@LizardSpork 2 года назад
I can't get over the fact that they CGIed Ewan McGregor to look younger in the flashback but they didn't do the same for Hayden Christensen 🤣 He looks 40 years old and older than his Master. Every time I saw his face it took me out of the moment and made me laugh. Such a weird decision.
@WhosThere26
@WhosThere26 2 года назад
Rose tinted glasses about the prequels. Let’s not forget that they were largely boring and terribly executed films with atrocious dialogue and writing. It’s William’s score that makes us feel anything at all. Lucas’ input was a mess.
@DavidsuperZhong
@DavidsuperZhong 2 года назад
For obi wan that had to come much later... Possibly exactly when vader died when he has long been in force afterlife
@kylesawkon4074
@kylesawkon4074 2 года назад
@@WhosThere26 watching phantom and thinking jar jar is a sith it makes it so much better
@Shane-sf9pv
@Shane-sf9pv 2 года назад
Bail Organa could’ve just said something like “if I don’t hear from you, I’m going to check on someone” and Obi-Wan would’ve known exactly what he meant. He KNOWS Luke is on Tattooine, that was his entire job. Instead because of dumb plot decisions Bail has to yell where he’s going and what he’s doing for the entire galaxy to hear. Definitely loved this episode the most though out of the series, mostly due to the flashback scene and Vader pulling a starkiller.
@Zach93SSSS
@Zach93SSSS 2 года назад
Or he could have said “I will check up on the boy”
@Hanoua2
@Hanoua2 2 года назад
Organa:"Hey Obi-Wan, its me Bail Organa, the leader of Alderaan, I'm going to see the super secret kid that we dont want the empire to find out about on the desert planet of tatooine, at the lars farm, where Owen lives ? the step brother of Anakin Sywalker ? yeah I'll be there in exactly 2 day, 6 hours and 23 minutes, there wont be any guard with me, and there's a really nice hill where a sniper could take me out on a hill a miles up north. So yeah dont forget, on Tatooine, in 2 days!"
@lelouchthedemon
@lelouchthedemon 2 года назад
btw how the hell reva is still alive?
@Hakspheenom
@Hakspheenom 2 года назад
@@Hanoua2 😂.. About sums allot of it up
@Gangstabob716
@Gangstabob716 2 года назад
The episode was better written than the previous ones
@allan7621
@allan7621 2 года назад
It’s driving me insane how the dude in the red shit keeps getting cut off by joe all the time
@RobinTahHood
@RobinTahHood 2 года назад
One thing that could've REALLY salvaged the Vader Vs. Ship scene & simultaneously fixed the Reva waiting fight: would've been when Vader rips the first ship down, Reva strikes and maybe gets a single glance off on him, which distracts him and the 2nd ship takes off, and then he turns and bodies her. That would've explained why he doesn't take out the 2nd ship, and also made her look somewhat competent in attacking while he's focused on his rage for Obi-wan
@EonSound
@EonSound 2 года назад
You put a tiny bit of effort and thought into the scene. That isn't allowed in this series.
@RetroGhoulHQ
@RetroGhoulHQ 2 года назад
or even while he was force pulling the first ship - show him doing damage to it like its about to be ripped apart, then Reva attacks - shows vader is badass still and removes the stupid hidden second ship idea. Seriously there are so many stupidly dumb ways they could fix all the issues in this show, does nobody check over the script?!
@Holret
@Holret 2 года назад
I get the feeling thats what meant to happen but for some reason they didnt. I mean, if you look at the sequence of events it all played out almost in proper order... except her attack's timing.
@zakaryperrin7126
@zakaryperrin7126 2 года назад
I think it’s the best episode in the show….but that’s not saying much unfortunately. I loved how badass and easily Vader took down Reva but I’m so annoyed that he just left her….which means she’s coming back.
@themouthofsauron6926
@themouthofsauron6926 2 года назад
Lol, did you think they were gonna allow Vader to kill her?
@drakemasque4251
@drakemasque4251 2 года назад
When you remember Qui-gon couldn't survive a lightsaber stab but Reva can smh💀
@solisprime2669
@solisprime2669 2 года назад
Which makes no sense getting stabbed means you die the only person who survived a stabbing was maul and that caught everyone off guard and it drove him mad but since he's a Zabrak and there makeup is different then a human it could work but not a regular human.
@aaronbryant8074
@aaronbryant8074 2 года назад
Sad thing is about the whole thing...they gave Reva a better fight against Vader than Obi wan.
@mitchellp7739
@mitchellp7739 2 года назад
@@aaronbryant8074 obvious there’s going to be another fight between them
@Longshanks1690
@Longshanks1690 2 года назад
I don’t even care that you can see his age lines, it’s just so beautiful to see him with his Padawan braid again. 🥹🥹🥹
@Jesterman501
@Jesterman501 2 года назад
Samee I don't care about the de-aging complaints, I'm just happy we see anakin again!!!
@randallrutherford1384
@randallrutherford1384 2 года назад
I agree I LOVED IT!!!
@DarkElitePredator
@DarkElitePredator 2 года назад
Facts brother facts 💯
@heetsees
@heetsees 2 года назад
Wow. Remember his braid! I saw his braid and I Claaaaaaapped! Ü Re**rds. 👏
@zakaryperrin7126
@zakaryperrin7126 2 года назад
That scene made me so happy
@chrisryan1501
@chrisryan1501 2 года назад
As cool as the vader stuff was it still doesnt at all fix the writing issues stemming from reva’s character
@liammcnulty1987
@liammcnulty1987 2 года назад
Oh, Reva is the main character, and is clearly going to be the hero by the end? Didn't see that coming since the trailer...
@bryant7542
@bryant7542 2 года назад
Y'all ready to see Reva magically battle-ready and swinging a saber in the next episode despite being kabobbed by a lightsaber?
@thewelshdragon1567
@thewelshdragon1567 2 года назад
There is another ship in there if you look at the scene when it first lands. However it’s still a problem as the other ship isn’t visible in any other scenes till the reveal
@kingwarrop
@kingwarrop 2 года назад
It seems as though Alex's job is to be heavily critical in the AJS and OJ has been following Alex's lead. Even AJ gets influenced by them going hard on everything. Its funny because 1, Alex has never liked anything ever since he joined the show and 2, OJ watches c tier movies and says they are great.
@standardreplicantKD6-3.7
@standardreplicantKD6-3.7 2 года назад
@@kingwarrop nah from an objective standpoint, coming from a star wars megafan, his critiques are very much warranted. This show has been messy the whole way. This feels like a manufactured product. Its just feels like content, not an artistic or storytelling type of show. I catch myself disagreeing with Alex quite a few times on other reviews, but in regards to this show, he has many good points. So do OJ and AJ
@camdonking1919
@camdonking1919 2 года назад
@@standardreplicantKD6-3.7 fax
@porcu12345
@porcu12345 2 года назад
You can see the ship in the background before it takes off too. And when Vader is tearing through the first ship, you can see the 2nd ship through the gaps.
@VastoFlo13
@VastoFlo13 2 года назад
@@kingwarrop people like you make me think what Alex said is right. The reason we get so many shitty and disappointing shows or movies now a days is because of people like you who like shit. This show hasn’t been good. It has its moments but it’s way off! But people like you who think it’s the best show to ever drop makes idiot writers continue to do shit writing. What if the roles were reversed and Alex praised this like the best show and you didn’t like it? You would be just as critical. Also Alex with with AJ and crew and you are not so just stfu and watch them
@lmojol9673
@lmojol9673 2 года назад
Hayden not being “de-aged” in the flashbacks really didn’t bother me. Ya, they could’ve done better with the make up or whatever but, I was just so glad to see Hayden as anakin again that I looked right past it.
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 2 года назад
at least he worked one day for this series
@lmojol9673
@lmojol9673 2 года назад
@@purefoldnz3070 well I mean, it is him in the Vader suit. But I know what you mean.
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 2 года назад
@@lmojol9673 sadly its not him in the suit either.
@dedsec9734
@dedsec9734 2 года назад
@@purefoldnz3070 they changed that 😒
@atb2674
@atb2674 2 года назад
This comment sums up how fans approach this show: yea it’s not good but we’re just too happy to see hayden and ewan together
@BKPrice
@BKPrice 2 года назад
Actually, the biggest problem with Vader grabbing that ship is it ruins Rogue One's ending and the beginning of A New Hope. Why didn't he just grab the ship with the plans as it was escaping?
@ztunelover
@ztunelover 2 года назад
Much more powerful ship? It’s way bigger and has all the engines
@yarpen26
@yarpen26 2 года назад
This is where the up-till-now praised Disney's approach to Vader as this mythical semi-God all powerful shit your pants unstoppable monster comes biting them in the ass because, for someone this powerful, he just keeps messing up his assignments.
@augusteclaiborne1778
@augusteclaiborne1778 2 года назад
I still don’t understand how Reva survived the first stab as a youngling while her friends died to it. And again she survives the second one by Vader and also the Grand Inquisitor survives. It’s like they don’t care to explain some of the glaring shit they throw at us.
@ilias-mu4vt
@ilias-mu4vt 2 года назад
Revenge is a pathway to many abilities some consider unnatural
@alinktothepast7514
@alinktothepast7514 2 года назад
after watching this episode i presume that Qui-Gon is not dead since every lightsabers passing through bodies are not lethal ? this is total BS
@BoilingHotCoffee
@BoilingHotCoffee 2 года назад
He passed out from the stab, then the Jedi accidentally burned him to death lmao
@Spawn3X5
@Spawn3X5 2 года назад
Hes a white male so hes dead definitely
@cliffchai3742
@cliffchai3742 2 года назад
"Somehow, Qui-Gon returned."
@virtuaguyverify
@virtuaguyverify 2 года назад
Darth Maul survived, Palpatine survived... good guys don't survive
@cosmickeyboard9811
@cosmickeyboard9811 2 года назад
People who keep saying this are stupid asf. Cal survived one, maul survived being cut completely in half, starkiller survived one, ect. It's possible
@tamirfriedman1329
@tamirfriedman1329 2 года назад
I thought it was amazingly stupid that Bail name dropped Owen's name in the recording and that Reva will be able to find Owen literally because she picked him out of a crowd at random in episode 1 of the show in the next episode. Nothing in this show feels organic and it is probably the most contrived Star Wars has ever been
@ge2719
@ge2719 2 года назад
Exactly. Just look at what they did with her light saber in this episode. Its a single blade half ring saber. Then suddenly its a double bladed half ring. Then its got a full ring so that it can spin, vader takes it off her and its back to being a half ring double , that he splits in two, and ends up in two parts on the floor. Except it joins back together again and it is a half ring saber. Its whatever the writers want it to be, the prop department didnt read the script, the director had to have known this was nonse se and just filmed it anay way. No one around them brought it up. No one making this gives a crap to make it good.
@mrcheesemunch
@mrcheesemunch 2 года назад
Yeah when they were writing that I bet they thought "Hah this is some epic foreshadowing see she already knew his name so..." No no no no, you can't just chuck a scene like that in to explain something when the whole idea is incredibly dumb to begin with. Literally dogshit Saturday morning cartoon level writing. Organa basically just did the "Villain explains how to foil their plans" bit.
@mistercereal9624
@mistercereal9624 2 года назад
Oh god I completely forgot about that. That is one of the most egregious plot conveniences in this show
@zachrohler1047
@zachrohler1047 2 года назад
Two seperate times does the fake jedi directly deliver information to reva. First when a random dick with a blaster tryst to stop an inquisitor and never even aims the blaster at her, and again when he dropped the communicator
@akmal94ibrahim
@akmal94ibrahim 2 года назад
Reva could've read Owen's mind as she did with that fake jedi and found Obi Wan in the first episode...
@darthsw0lev3rine95
@darthsw0lev3rine95 2 года назад
It’s so out of character for Vader to let someone live who knows his previous life. In the comics he’s done a lot to keep that a secret. And if he wanted someone dead he wouldn’t toy with them. He would end then once and for all. Granted Vader and Anakin are my favorite characters of the series. But the amount of plot holes and flaws in the show is too much. Best episode by far is five in my opinion
@famousthaneus9810
@famousthaneus9810 2 года назад
I think him using Reva to get to Obi Wan makes sense, but not ensuring she was dead at the end of this episode is definitely some plot armor bs
@theshier2219
@theshier2219 2 года назад
I totally thought Reva was going to get the Dooku treatment when Vader wielded two sabers.
@Alice0_0Liddell
@Alice0_0Liddell 2 года назад
Loved the melee range troopers shooting people 2 meters away and no one getting hit, was a funny meme in a sense.
@kryartcole782
@kryartcole782 2 года назад
God that was so stupid 😂
@Broomtwo
@Broomtwo 2 года назад
God the scenes when everyones shooting at eachother and just advancing in the open missing every shot was so cringe. Like I'm meant to believe the stormtroopers have 0 regard for their own lives, they are just going to stand in line and get mowed down outside of cover? And the same with the rebels? It was the saddest excuse of combat I ever saw. Stormtroopers lined up like a parade while they are meant to be sieging some desperate, heavily armed rebels. Whole thing just immersion destroying.
@bldontmatter5319
@bldontmatter5319 2 года назад
Reminds me of the newer version of when han solo shoots greedo and greedo shoots first is edited in, and it goes SIDEWAYS out of the gun
@Zeitgeist2000
@Zeitgeist2000 2 года назад
The storm troopers have always had shit aim tho, so i just accepted that scene. They literally never hit a thing in the OT.
@gernou92
@gernou92 2 года назад
I was actually impressed the Troopers were able to hit the door. I was sure they were going to miss it
@Baggiesman
@Baggiesman 2 года назад
Why does Obi wan escape on a ship in so many episodes but the imperials control the space and never shoot at anything.
@0verWay
@0verWay 2 года назад
Plot armor. Or something.
@aliengreen2364
@aliengreen2364 2 года назад
Sidious’ gas prices are too high atm, so a lot of the fleet isn’t operational
@DoupleP-Px2
@DoupleP-Px2 2 года назад
Shooting powerful lazers is expensive my man. If you're the Financial officer on one of those ships and you go over the spending budget, Darth gonna go ape shit crazy on yo ass.
@mauldalorian4725
@mauldalorian4725 2 года назад
Cause Vader want's him alive. That gunner would be so dead if he took that kill away from Vader
@freman007
@freman007 2 года назад
"I don't think it needs a second season." I didn't think it needed a first season.
@nightangelx1513
@nightangelx1513 2 года назад
How come Disney can only make Darth Vader badass in the last 10 minutes of anything ? I’d love to see a spin off where we just see Vader hunting jedi and it’s just him using the force, winning duels, piloting, and just being the unstoppable raid boss he is in lore.
@palp8623
@palp8623 2 года назад
These three are my favorite panel when they're all together. They represent three separate kinds of people and mesh seamlessly.
@morsorcus8152
@morsorcus8152 2 года назад
Yep. Only issue is AJ will give free points for agenda on things that actively hurt the show.
@luhedi6303
@luhedi6303 2 года назад
@@morsorcus8152 my criticism of him is that he will do some mental gymnastics to excuse poor and sloppy writing.
@kalemsmith405
@kalemsmith405 2 года назад
@@morsorcus8152 That's why I'm happy that AJ includes OJ and Alex to bounce off of his ideas and offer support or contrasting opinions. I often prefer watching The Angry Joe Show for the very reason that I actually do get clashing ideas (most often between Alex and AJ), because even on other review channels that have more than one person, they usually speak from the same vacuum.
@BattleBladeWarrior
@BattleBladeWarrior 2 года назад
Its like Siskel and Ebert, and joe! its true, they really cover all the bases and its interesting hearing they're different takes.
@Tortuga2323
@Tortuga2323 2 года назад
Joe is funny. He'll hate every aspect of a shows wokeness and moments later being ranting about how woke he is
@donkee011
@donkee011 2 года назад
Alex explained Disney's way of making a series perfectly! And the analogy and the business model are the same as in the modern video games that you loose your shit over. Not caring about the fan and the consumer, except for that he is a milking cash cow. Not providing meaningful content but shallow references and big glaring plot holes. And always baiting you with a roadmap for something, instead of giving you quality entertainment now. It's almost as they are just missing a way to cram loot boxes into a TV show/movie, to complete the mission.
@horrorfan117
@horrorfan117 2 года назад
Found the guy who liked how they did the Sequels. Cause we all know there no problems with winging a story as you go without planning anything ahead.
@Perserra
@Perserra 2 года назад
​@@horrorfan117 I don't think he's objecting to there being a plan. I think he's objecting that the plan is never filled-in as promised. Everything is a skeleton to build the next thing on instead of being a full unit of content unto itself. And you never get the payoff you were hoping for.
@TheCynicalJay
@TheCynicalJay 2 года назад
@@horrorfan117 who tf are you talking to...?
@cliffchai3742
@cliffchai3742 2 года назад
@@horrorfan117 But there's a difference. The movies were planned to be a trilogy so they definitely needed to have a proper vision and setup leading into the next installment. Obi-Wan's just a limited series with 6 episodes. It should have been a self-contained story which led to A New Hope, nothing more and nothing less.
@william9170
@william9170 2 года назад
Don't ask questions, consume product and get excited for next product.
@vorlun2594
@vorlun2594 2 года назад
I had a feeling Disney is trying to just force through a random character to have their own spin off
@TonyP_Yes-its-Me
@TonyP_Yes-its-Me 2 года назад
Indira Varma, is a terrific actress, so I'm not surprised that she gave such a good performance. She raised the show up a notch, for me.
@Debneyink
@Debneyink 2 года назад
I made lightsaber props on the prequels... spent time on set with Ewan and Hayden. Warmed my heart to see the flashback scene last night. And am very pleased to hear that people actually liked the prequels! We all had a lot of fun making them. Obi wan should have been a movie. Same with Boba Fett.
@roywilson4514
@roywilson4514 2 года назад
Why make the same comment on each episode?
@Benny36c91
@Benny36c91 2 года назад
Start of the flashback scene you see the top of obiwans lightsaber and it looks solid without anywhere for the beam to emit from, am I wrong?
@dogsbreakfast4952
@dogsbreakfast4952 2 года назад
Prequels sucked only little kids like them
@digduck9463
@digduck9463 2 года назад
@@roywilson4514 has no better things to do and wants attention
@TheQuatum
@TheQuatum 2 года назад
@@roywilson4514 Because they can.
@stryker290
@stryker290 2 года назад
I like how they spent time trying to shoot thu the blast doors when she could have just lightsaber'd it open.......
@Kay0Bot
@Kay0Bot 2 года назад
Eh, heavy blasters definitely soften up. Remember in one prequel theybused lightsaber to open a blast door, it took quite awhile
@natediaz1863
@natediaz1863 2 года назад
Well how else was the conversation between Obi-Wan and Reva supposed to happen?
@emperorgizmo3014
@emperorgizmo3014 2 года назад
@@Kay0Bot those were literally higher quality doors plus a layer of blast doors after the first layer Qui-gon started melting through. These looked liked old rusty doors. A surprise to be sure.
@JohnK-117
@JohnK-117 2 года назад
Plus Vader opened all doors with no struggle lol
@aaron.6923
@aaron.6923 2 года назад
Yep
@oscaralvarez247
@oscaralvarez247 2 года назад
“Oh you hate her character? SPIN OFF SERIES! Just because you hate her character!” Lmaoooo
@JG-bx1rc
@JG-bx1rc 2 года назад
I just rewatched the episode and to my SHOCK you can actually see two ships when they land in the opening sequence. Should’ve been more heavily focused on though.
@MegaDudeman21
@MegaDudeman21 2 года назад
why?
@JG-bx1rc
@JG-bx1rc 2 года назад
@@MegaDudeman21 why what? Why did I rewatch it? Because a friend wanted to watch it.
@KD-fu8ob
@KD-fu8ob 2 года назад
I think it’s a why did you bring it up ?…cause they whined about it for some time and there were two shops throughout the episode.
@MegaDudeman21
@MegaDudeman21 2 года назад
@@KD-fu8ob exactly. It’s such a idiotic nitpick
@WarThug13
@WarThug13 2 года назад
Why does obi wan need to bring Vader to Reva???? She's already had multiple audiences with him alone, during which at any point she could have attacked him. What was the point of any of this?
@cinemapigeon4898
@cinemapigeon4898 2 года назад
Maybe she thought when Vader was focusing on Kenobi he was easier to ambush.
@djcochrane
@djcochrane 2 года назад
He takes regular baths. Evil lady who was willing to cut down random people to draw out Jedi I don’t think would be above dropping a toaster in his bath or sabotaging it. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Like, every, single, other, dark sider tosses her around like a rag doll. There was no setup that “sneaking up on Vader” might work.
@djcochrane
@djcochrane 2 года назад
@@cinemapigeon4898 that was Kenobi’s idea, but she waited about 30 seconds too late and then didn’t go all sneaky like she should have.
@nateweter4012
@nateweter4012 2 года назад
Vader and the Grand Inquisitor (glad he’s back), just left Reva alive? She has tons of knowledge of the deepest working parts of the Empire and is a trained inquisitor with a clear motive to rebel. They just leave her alive? You could argue that at that point, she’s the most dangerous person to the empire. They just leave her. Level 10 plot armor. It’s clear that this entire writing process and show, began with her name at the top of the board and the rest is just servicing that. It’s the reason her character, dialogue and plot make no sense. All continuity, logic and character intelligence breaks down around her.
@ChopSueyyy
@ChopSueyyy 2 года назад
I think what they are going for is leaving her alive so that she can get revenge on Obi Wan for leaving her or sth? Also doesnt really make any sense, but i think thats what they are going for. If thats true, episode 6 will be Reva finding Obi Wan for a last duel before Obi kills her.
@SkeletorTclaws
@SkeletorTclaws 2 года назад
Its worse when you consider that both vader and GI were left for dead then they came back. They just leave her Dr evil style? Couldnt a storm trooper just shoot her in angry face? Just in case? Lazy writing ✍️ 😴
@dontreadmyprofilepicture8817
@dontreadmyprofilepicture8817 2 года назад
What does Reva actually know that could damage the empire, she's essentially like Assaj when she escaped from Dooku, barely worth considering a loose end, they used her then threw her out, what could she really do in the grand scheme of the empire? Just like Assaj couldn't do shit against the Separatists, she's ONE person.
@horrorfan117
@horrorfan117 2 года назад
"Did you really believe that "I" did not see padawan?" Vader knows she'll survive and that her vengeance will drive her to find Kenobi. Why do you think he stabbed her in the same spot?
@KyubiCloaks
@KyubiCloaks 2 года назад
"You could argue shes the most dangerous" no...no you could not. Like not even close. If you know anything about star wars lore shes literally not top 20
@SimonNeilScott
@SimonNeilScott 2 года назад
My take away from this episode... Why have we not had superb, emotional, impactful flashbacks like this, in EVERY single episode? Why? Just why? We should have! So much potential!
@Macherian20
@Macherian20 2 года назад
Imagine this: as Vader is pulling the ship down, ripping the side open, distracted by his rage, Reva then comes up behind him and attempts an assassination. She fails but distracts Vader enough for him to direct attention from the ship for a brief moment. The ship escapes narrowly with a compromised generator. Simple fix! Instead you got the stupid fake out ship.
@lobsterminion693
@lobsterminion693 2 года назад
Even such a small and easily understood change that fixes two glaring issues with the episode would be too difficult for the Kenobi writers to think of.
@dylanrivera2244
@dylanrivera2244 2 года назад
Rey: uses the force to block lightsaber attack Vader: “Bitch please, let me show you how the pros do it”
@TheRibottoStudios
@TheRibottoStudios 2 года назад
Dude the slow turn around it's SUCH an Anakin thing to do it gave me immediate flashbacks to the citadel arc at the start when they arrive after being in carbonite where he was like "Hey Snips." "Hey master." then he does that sloooow turn like "Wait.....BITCH WTF?!" God good shit 😂
@alternative915
@alternative915 2 года назад
Rey: Ok. *force lightning on a transport killing chewbaka*
@TheRibottoStudios
@TheRibottoStudios 2 года назад
@@alternative915 EVEN STARKILLER had trouble bringing down a Star destroyer but VADER brings this ship down WITH ONE HAD what a legend
@Eon233
@Eon233 2 года назад
@@TheRibottoStudios well it’s a transport ship vs a fucking entire Star destroyer
@TheRibottoStudios
@TheRibottoStudios 2 года назад
@@Eon233 dude WHY are you trying to make VADER look weak cause they're how you're sounding
@Jayhawker32
@Jayhawker32 2 года назад
Things I would like to see: 1.) Allow the rebels to get absolutely stomped by the Stormtroopers/Empire. Everything we've seen from these shows as of late is that the Empire is incredibly incompetent and the rebels should have little reason to fear them. We need to go back to Rogue One levels of the rebels getting destroyed. 2.) Clone wars flashbacks while we have Ewan and Hayden on these projects is a must, like c'mon. 3.) Vader to be ruthless; in Canon comics he tortures the inquisitors and cuts their limbs off forcing them to us the cybernetics/prosthetics. If you're gonna let Reva survive, make Vader punish her or some shit since clearly the lightsaber wound isn't lethal for some reason.
@RoverDover25
@RoverDover25 2 года назад
Clearly not to his inquisitors
@Comissar_Carolus
@Comissar_Carolus 2 года назад
Even in Rogue One the Empire seemed incompetent... you really wonder how can the rebels fear this Empire...
@jonnyso1
@jonnyso1 2 года назад
Disney will never do that, I gave up on anything they make at this point, complete trash.
@stevenlannister184
@stevenlannister184 2 года назад
1. The empire has always been incompetent ever since New Hope. A competent empire is basically non canon.
@yosefshekelberg5433
@yosefshekelberg5433 2 года назад
"B-b-buh if we show the Empire winning anything that means we are glorifying fascists!" These people unironically think this. The people who likes this nonsense believe they are "the resistance" in real life against "MUH FASCISM." That's the demographic this nonsense is for.
@SeaGLGaming
@SeaGLGaming 2 года назад
Every single episode has ended with Obi-Wan having to escape on a ship as Reva/Vader watches with the exception of the first episode where he boards a ship to leave Tatooine.
@eddiek8179
@eddiek8179 2 года назад
Deborah Chow is really poor at action scenes - the choreography, the tightness, composition and the geography are all pretty bad. She needs an action director to assist her. Despite the last action scene with Vader being good - it's good because of the arc of the story with the scene and the fight and not because of how it was directed and shot. So many actions scenes are very clunky and that includes the lightsaber fight between Anakin and Obi-Wan. It's cool to see them but the fight scene was slow and the choreography was stilted.
@skitch_____
@skitch_____ 2 года назад
This episode also puts the “Darth is toying with Obi-Wan” theory to rest and confirms this shows bad writing. Darth is actively looking for him and not wanting him to get stronger, like some have said. He just stupidly escaped. And again, Not being able to stop obi wan’s escape through fire after he just dragged him through it… is like not stopping the 2nd transport after destroying the 1st one. Does his force need to recharge?!?!?
@NecromanticThrone
@NecromanticThrone 2 года назад
Yes it does. It's ONE OF the major reasons Jedi and Sith meditate.
@henkhenkste6076
@henkhenkste6076 2 года назад
@@NecromanticThrone source?
@speedwagon2817
@speedwagon2817 2 года назад
Gosh this makes episode 3 make no sense when he just lets OB1 go….
@issamkholoud2009
@issamkholoud2009 2 года назад
@@henkhenkste6076 source watch the movies, the force users get tired
@JoseMolina-jz9hh
@JoseMolina-jz9hh 2 года назад
And if Vader can do that here, why wouldn't he do it to the rebel Corvette at the end of Rogue one? Its the damn death star plans... you could reach out with the force and crush the ship ... and its even closer to a new hope. 😤
@brandenestrella8117
@brandenestrella8117 2 года назад
“How can she slap!?!?!” Had me dying! Great impersonation lol
@seamillo
@seamillo 2 года назад
They spent so long firing at the door given the rebels time and then when Reva is bored she just cuts it open in 3 seconds.
@anthonybarone8144
@anthonybarone8144 2 года назад
Nobody gonna point out how the stormtroopers brought Obi Wan back into the tunnel for no reason, other than to give him a chance to escape without being seen? WHY!?
@kalemsmith405
@kalemsmith405 2 года назад
Lightsaber wounds are so superficial. They've become a ridiculously ineffective tension device in Star Wars at this point. They're not typical stab wounds; inner organs or flesh isn't 'sliced' or 'mangled'. Lightstabers are basically one-inch rods of plasma that effectively DELETE MATTER. You're telling me that Reva can survive (twice) after having her insides borehole-d out of existence? Fuck that. Yes, other characters have survived worse - Maul, for instance. But come on. Can anyone die in Star Wars anymore? Are ANY injuries life threatening? Are you telling me that Anakin could have saved Padme from death if he just told her to be mad for a little bit? I guess rage is the way of immortality. I'm sure that's a great message for the kids lol.
@Marlockie
@Marlockie 2 года назад
honestly he probably just destroyed robotics and not vitals.
@MedalionDS9
@MedalionDS9 2 года назад
they also instantly cauterize so you don't bleed out
@picklespickle1641
@picklespickle1641 2 года назад
Only force users are surviving the saber, padama don’t have the force .
@kalemsmith405
@kalemsmith405 2 года назад
​@@MedalionDS9 That's understandable for things like limbs I suppose, but cauterizing vital arteries in the middle of your body? Or cauterizing missing chunks of vital organs? I don't think that would be exactly life saving.
@kalemsmith405
@kalemsmith405 2 года назад
@@picklespickle1641 While I think you're right about force powers helping, Padme didn't die to a lightsaber. She died from sadness. If only she was angry, she might have tapped into 'the power of rage' that helped Vader, Palpatine, Maul, The Grand Inquisitor, and now Reva (twice) survive their grievous wounds. I might be missing some examples, but that's off the top of my film/series recollection.
@michaelthomas5433
@michaelthomas5433 2 года назад
When Vader was dancing away from Reva's attacks I wanted a disco ball to drop and roller skates to pop out of his feet like on Robot Chicken. But the main issue is that this Obi Wan show is really an origin story for the Reva character for her upcoming show.
@FabTBC
@FabTBC 2 года назад
Would you rather have the villain not be shown at all or only in small amounts? Then we’d have the problem of an underdeveloped villain (I think Reva‘s done a good job).
@Dragonfury3000
@Dragonfury3000 2 года назад
Reva is not interesting why even bother watching
@michaelthomas5433
@michaelthomas5433 2 года назад
@@FabTBC Reva isn't meant to be a villian. That's the problem in your logic.
@Hanoua2
@Hanoua2 2 года назад
@@FabTBC the main villain should have been Vader, but for some reason Reva is the focus
@TheDrewBlaze1
@TheDrewBlaze1 2 года назад
@@FabTBC bro please
@teebone2157
@teebone2157 2 года назад
Anyone realize stormtroopers go down with one laser Shot while wearing armored but the "good guys" can take a laser shot while wearing t-shirts and run away 😉
@1dopedeep
@1dopedeep 2 года назад
Reva's lightsaber was not broken in half. It was made to detach and turn into 2 seperate lightsabers.
@KillerTacos54
@KillerTacos54 2 года назад
Darth Vader absolutely ANNIHILATING Reva, the Grand Inquisitor's return, Vader pulling the ship back to the ground and Anakin vs Obi-Wan flashbacks were the only redeeming qualities of the episode. Everything surrounding the rebels and the escape from the planet is so poorly written. For a show called Obi-Wan Kenobi, there seems to be very little of substance regarding Obi-Wan himself and virtually NOTHING about his past or backstory.
@blackfox1320
@blackfox1320 2 года назад
Welcome to the Reva show....side note why the fuck did they not kill her?! Talk about the strongest plot armor of all time. She betrayed Vader...AND STILL ALIVE?!?!
@virtuaguyverify
@virtuaguyverify 2 года назад
💩💩💩
@TheNameCannotBeFound
@TheNameCannotBeFound 2 года назад
1:24 Bro, Alex' face lighting up when Joe said that they didn't go hard enough on the last episode is just everything to me.
@gizzad
@gizzad 2 года назад
Dude, totally
@therizz0
@therizz0 2 года назад
Also. Did anyone else feel akward when the Grand Inquisitor came back, taunted Reva and Vader was just in the back letting him talk? Lmao. Like "okay I'll just stand here and let you have your moment". 😂
@Rampant16
@Rampant16 2 года назад
Yep stood there like a statue. Vader has zero tolerance for bullshit, why he'd stand there for that I don't know. He should be dispatching Reva and then leaving immediately to continue tracking Obi-wan
@TheFlyingHambone
@TheFlyingHambone 2 года назад
Why am I the only one who dies from being stabbed by a lightsaber?
@juliano8652
@juliano8652 2 года назад
It's because you aren't as strong and important as strong black women
@Hgh38
@Hgh38 2 года назад
Han Solo?
@CragScrambler
@CragScrambler 2 года назад
I was laughing my ass off when they had that tunnel battle, they were literally feet apart but missing, and it took obi wan 3 goes at killing those 2 troopers when the chick got shot 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@patrickmacasaet3493
@patrickmacasaet3493 2 года назад
I thought I was the only one who also laughed smh Tf even was that scene
@akmal94ibrahim
@akmal94ibrahim 2 года назад
The chick had a grenade the whole time. If only she had used it sooner when the stormtroopers were all bottlenecked in the tunnel. Or heck, when she is dying, can't she throw the grenade out instead of holding it, needlessly killing herself?
@patrickmacasaet3493
@patrickmacasaet3493 2 года назад
@@akmal94ibrahim thisssssss ^^^^^^^^ lmao
@FemboyTyco
@FemboyTyco 2 года назад
When i watched that scene i was like "Oh okay Obi wan took out those two TK's he'll be able to get to her-" cuts back to him still cutting away at those two storm troopers. "He's still slicing at those guys??!"
@dano6306
@dano6306 2 года назад
I kept thinking... pan the camera back a little and tell me how that makes sense?! The show constantly tries to be slick with camera angles thinking we will forget about relative distance. A wall of storm troopers in a single narrow corridor... Obi is 10 feet away with no cover and still has the time to have a moment with that chick. Don't even get me started at why Reva chose to watch the troopers struggle to open those blast door for minutes when she could've used her saber to open it in 2 seconds.
@MASTERSWORD009
@MASTERSWORD009 2 года назад
-Hayden and Ewan share the screen finally “Kenobi is the bestest Star Wars ever!!!” Jingling keys at best. Sad this is all it takes to get fans excited… keep falling for it.
@Masteroogway40
@Masteroogway40 2 года назад
Darth Vader to Grand inquisitor- "okay we know Reva is secretly plotting to try to kill me. I have a plan. We will trick her and gain her trust by making her think she can be the next grand inquisitor by having her stab you in the gut." Grand inquisitor- "yes lord Vad... wait what!?"
@DementedDistraction
@DementedDistraction 2 года назад
Yeah...Disney doesn't really know how lightsabers work or are supposed to react when they come into contact with other objects, as far as Disney is concerned lightsabers are glowy baseball bats. As far as Reva is concerned, I don't think her character would be as irritating as she is if the actress could emote better - maybe it's a product of the dialog and direction, but throughout the entirety of the series she just looks like someone who is trying to be angry instead of someone who is actually angry; she just yells and screams, and I guess that's supposed to be convincing enough to portray emotion in her mind.
@onryu
@onryu 2 года назад
They could have improved that Vader holding the ship scene by alot, start as it does with him holding it in place and them cutting to a the interior shot, with everyone in a panic, and cut back to reva igniting her saber behind vader to fight him, forcing vader to release the transport, and obi-wan escaping due to reva's intervention- giving her a slight redemption, which is what disney was trying to do, but poorly. And yes just as Alex says it would make sense that the hyperdrive breaks due to vader holding it upon take off.
@FumiTheKitten
@FumiTheKitten 2 года назад
That would’ve been sooooo much better the the crap we got.
@johnleonard9102
@johnleonard9102 2 года назад
Nah cuz then that would give Reva credit for "saving Kenobi and Leia" and therefore giving her canonical relevance to the story. They're going to pull that off with Luke somehow; like the entire OT happened only because Reva did something stunning and brave.
@lefloch9983
@lefloch9983 2 года назад
@@johnleonard9102 Lol Owen is going to shoot Reva and blame Ben for it. No idea what you're thinking
@gabrielmaldonado2195
@gabrielmaldonado2195 2 года назад
I think they didn't do it that way because the writers wanted to make Vader feel outsmarted.. But they ruined the whole sequence instead.
@JakePwr
@JakePwr 2 года назад
Dude that would have been so cool! It's not that hard to make cool scenes, with the money Disney has I would think they would have the best writers in the game but they suck
@waylonmarble5181
@waylonmarble5181 2 года назад
Love how Joe gives it a 7/10 then proceeds to go on a rant about how terrible it was 😂
@AliGoose2000
@AliGoose2000 2 года назад
I swear every star wars reviewer does this. They talk about hating it so much, and then they still give it a high score XD
@my_name_is_desh727
@my_name_is_desh727 2 года назад
That's because Joe is a shill for Disney. Without Alex or other Joe I have feeling his channel would have died a long time ago
@AliGoose2000
@AliGoose2000 2 года назад
@@my_name_is_desh727 Yeah, I don't think I could watch these reviews without them
@isaiahgilbert4313
@isaiahgilbert4313 2 года назад
@@AliGoose2000 No one hates Star Wars more than Star Wars fans lmao
@cowetascore8476
@cowetascore8476 2 года назад
@@isaiahgilbert4313 Don't ask questions, just consume product, then get excited for next product.
@oscarkabowski8413
@oscarkabowski8413 2 года назад
The Reva series has been great so far. Glad Kenobi and Vader didn’t steal the show from her. I also enjoyed the Fennec Shand show, glad Boba Fett didn’t steal the show!
@joelwashere5382
@joelwashere5382 2 года назад
Lol well said 👍
@blackmagician7645
@blackmagician7645 2 года назад
Cal might have penetrated the base before Obi Wan's rebel team. But who in this particularly rebel out post have Cal had interaction with to share this knowledge? And does this occur before or after Cal's base break in, in time line events? These guy's like to break in their opinion without paying attention to all the detailed facts at times.
@scottwallbank4794
@scottwallbank4794 2 года назад
Fallen order is set five years before this.
@blackmagician7645
@blackmagician7645 2 года назад
@@scottwallbank4794 Even still. That's five years prior to these newer group of resistant fighters. So they may not know about Cal. As for the Empire themselves. They are constantly underestimating the rebel fighters who they consider weak and inferior.
@MedalionDS9
@MedalionDS9 2 года назад
Perfect encaspulation of this ep guys... people are letting themselves get blinded by the Memberries of Hayden and Ewan that they forgive everything else, and that's just not right... that's why we keep getting such crappy Star Wars because we can be placated so easily
@anthonyplanzo1082
@anthonyplanzo1082 2 года назад
The people that fall for that shit will never change so we will just keep getting this half baked bs
@Hanoua2
@Hanoua2 2 года назад
Yeah, at episode 4 I was done with the teasing and nostalgia bait, I wanted a good story with cool character interaction, but its all college student level of writing
@cliffchai3742
@cliffchai3742 2 года назад
"Don't ask questions. Consume product and be excited for next product!" - Jay Bauman
@MedalionDS9
@MedalionDS9 2 года назад
@@cliffchai3742 The release schedule of Star Wars shows is to overwhelm audiences so they don't have time to dwell on a bad show, drum up more excitement and people forget about it
@bldontmatter5319
@bldontmatter5319 2 года назад
@@MedalionDS9 as Alex said... Keep the hype train going... Never satisfy the customer. Me? I'm satisfied with the original trilogy every 3 years (that's my schedule for rewatching it)
@AdamM12590
@AdamM12590 2 года назад
Im at least extremely happy that everyone even the AJS trio love Hayden and Ewan. I really hope Hayden is feeling the amount of joy we are getting from seeing him because he is awesome.
@theyfearme1379
@theyfearme1379 2 года назад
It's funny cause years ago we all joked on him but after everything new coming out isn't Canon and trash.. we all show the love for 1 2 and 3.. because it was actual good story telling even tho it was a bit cheesy at the time. It's disgustingly terrible today...F Disney ! 🖕
@duran4689
@duran4689 2 года назад
Indeed I know these two coming back together is a real joy to all Star Wars fans. Regardless of how people think of the show In general we can all agree the best part of the show was those two. They did amazing. I really hope we get a season two since Star Wars has so many untold storys.
@navtektv
@navtektv 2 года назад
Yeah. I never hated any of the characters or the actors of the Prequels, cept maybe Jar Jar? The main problem was always the Writing and then the Directing.
@YouTubeChannel-iq5to
@YouTubeChannel-iq5to 2 года назад
He‘s not awesome. Just a minor actor in a badly written role catering to nerds. It’s just nostalgia.
@bldontmatter5319
@bldontmatter5319 2 года назад
@@RU-vidChannel-iq5to you are extremely based. Unfortunately, I agree with you because you are correct.
@Projekt.96
@Projekt.96 2 года назад
I don't think Obi Wan expected her to react the way she did when she attacked Vader. He told her they could take him together but because of how SHE felt and how much hate she's built up towards Vader Obi Wan trying to talk her down and basically bring her back if she ever even truly became a sith/fallen Jedi in the first place. She was impatient when she attacked Vader and he used her to get Kenobi. That is his goal. Always has been and nothing will change that.
@aaronbrett317
@aaronbrett317 2 года назад
My whole childhood people kept telling me over and over again that the thing that I loved most in the world (Star Wars, at that time it was the prequels) sucked. Now I’m watching as people are trying to do the same thing again with a new generation of Star Wars fans. The most satisfying thing about this show so far has been to watch the reaction to seeing Hayden as Anakin again and to be a witness as the masses show their respect for both he and Ewan. It’s so god damn satisfying and vindicating at the same time.
@ThatXLazerXGuy
@ThatXLazerXGuy 2 года назад
I agree. People didn't appreciate what we had.
@doublestarships646
@doublestarships646 2 года назад
Joe's score was too generous and the other two was them being nice by giving it a 5. This episode had cool parts that was covered with absolute shit. The writers and director did Reva's character WRONG! They could have done so many things for her to make things interesting. It feels like this show was written by college students that barely watched the movies.
@Hanoua2
@Hanoua2 2 года назад
Like Joe said, its like they wanted Reva to be menacing, cold and intimidating (wich they failed) but at the same time they want us to sympathise with her and care about her tragic backstory.
@Tee_B
@Tee_B 2 года назад
The actor did her acting wrong too.
@JumbleMumble
@JumbleMumble 2 года назад
Joe is always too generous tho
@ge2719
@ge2719 2 года назад
@@Hanoua2 exactly. How are we supposed to care aboit her back story when shes literally going around murdering innocent people supposedly to get revenge against a person who murdered innocent people. These writers are total morons or I question their sanity that they thino this is at all plausable. Rather than say her secretly have found obiwan, been trained by him, and she then tries to go off and pretend to be an inquositor to get revenge against vader. THAT would have made sense. And would have done what they clearly want to do with ha ing her own terrible spinoff show.
@SoldierSpiderx
@SoldierSpiderx 2 года назад
How Reeva survived a lightsaber stab and Quigon didn’t is beyond me like her lightsaber can easily cut through a steel door that a friggin cannon couldn’t get through and SOMEHOW despite being stabbed twice, Reva still survives. Plot armor is thicker than any shield.
@AJ-sw8uf
@AJ-sw8uf 2 года назад
“The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural"
@reapersoul8506
@reapersoul8506 2 года назад
I swear y'all don't pay attention, darkside users have always been able to survive life threatening things, Maul got chopped in half survived and Anakin got burned alive survived. Star wars has a lot of issue but if you pay attention you won't miss easy shit.
@crimpycook3273
@crimpycook3273 2 года назад
@@reapersoul8506 plot armor.
@Otakahunt
@Otakahunt 2 года назад
@@crimpycook3273 is that what haters say when they dont understand something? Takes less than half a braincell to realize dark side users have been cheating death all the time in star wars. the GI literally said the reason in this very episode too lmao. But nah... iTs PlOt ArMoR. Easier to say 2 words than think about the lore.
@SoldierSpiderx
@SoldierSpiderx 2 года назад
@@crimpycook3273Fact just ignore the troll they cleanly try justify her character be stab not once but twice come on
@Jhayzer021
@Jhayzer021 2 года назад
Leia being a tech buff and troubleshoot the wires to open the door is amazing, she inherit that from his dad Anakin.
@justjax6000
@justjax6000 2 года назад
Reva's anger makes perfect sense. She was still a kid and never learned how to safetly process her sadness, fear and overall trauma. The Empire exploited her but she always wanted that revenge. And since her revenge plot was mention, we should note that she trains as dark jedi and tries to rise up the ranks to get right next to Vader. Just so she can get a moment to kill him. Thats the most Sith-Shit ever.
@JackEverton101
@JackEverton101 2 года назад
Joe- “ I thought you said this was the best episode so far!?” Alex- “ correct… It’s a 5/10” You know what I think the Mandalorian was a fluke… Because the magic is gone
@hundredpercentmetal
@hundredpercentmetal 2 года назад
Go rewatch the mandalorian. It's just as trashy and badly written and inconsistent as this. It's like watching Xena meets Hercules in the 90s
@israelsaadesnoozer377
@israelsaadesnoozer377 2 года назад
@@hundredpercentmetal people just loved it because of grogu even though it was just the same shit over and over. No rewatchability for me and I struggled to even get through it the first time. Season 2 relied on fan service to carry it.
@gladkomrad2593
@gladkomrad2593 2 года назад
I have been saying for years that disney has shown great inadequacy of understanding jedi and sith lore from the start. This has not changed much. It's one of the primary reasons the sequel trilogy was such a mess. It's why Mando was tolerable(only Grogu problem) as it remains a problem whenever they write a character that can use the force. They think it's a superhero power instead of a trained mystical art, hence why their jedi do not actually need training and are inherently OP(Grogu, Rey problem). It doesn't work as quality fantasy with that understanding. Star Wars is not appropriate Marvel Comics material whether writers want it to be or not.
@gladkomrad2593
@gladkomrad2593 2 года назад
I'll give a quick example of bad writing. Reva has a similar power as we've seen Kylo Ren use, where darksiders can strip information from a victim's mind. A darkside mind-trick. Neat idea, yet... when Kylo does this on Poe, Poe is pained by trying to resist. When Reva does this on Haja it's painless because Haja doesn't resist. Ok. But when Reva tries this against Leia(a force-user) Leia resists, Reva fails, and it is painless. We then have to assume that Leia's mind is protected by inherent strength in the force. She is not trained. Literally, her mind is protected by a magic force bubble or something. It makes sense but it is bad writing and inappropriate for the fantasy universe it exists in. Force powers like this should not be possible unless the character is trained in their use. Disney Star Wars doesn't care for limitations like training when it comes to force powers.
@cosmickeyboard9811
@cosmickeyboard9811 2 года назад
@@hundredpercentmetal L opinion, mandalorian is a star wars masterpiece.
@darthcinema4262
@darthcinema4262 2 года назад
Decent episode, mostly because of Vader being awesome and the flashbacks. Too bad Vader didn't finish Reva off, but it was neat to see the Grand Inquisitor come back.
@VengeanceN7
@VengeanceN7 2 года назад
Was there even a point to not having him around, I mean really you could have just said he was on assignment elsewhere there's no point to fake out his death. Plus honestly this Inquisitor sucks the one in rebels he's actually kind of cool.
@darkcrisisgaming298
@darkcrisisgaming298 2 года назад
They need to have a good misunderstood diverse character to save everyone 😂
@naftulzvi3353
@naftulzvi3353 2 года назад
@@darkcrisisgaming298 Literally just described Lando, but sure...
@darkcrisisgaming298
@darkcrisisgaming298 2 года назад
@@naftulzvi3353 yeah but lando is a chad
@naftulzvi3353
@naftulzvi3353 2 года назад
@@darkcrisisgaming298 Diversity complainers with an *.
@MrHoll87
@MrHoll87 2 года назад
Angry Joe: "Oh you hate this character?! Spin off series JUST because you hate this character!" Disney: "We are excited to announce the Andor series coming to Disney+."
@moonman8450
@moonman8450 2 года назад
I can already see little Leia in a Lego game being able to crouch to spaces only small characters can access
@vaivs7903
@vaivs7903 2 года назад
This episode set me on two opposites of the scale. I absolutly adored the flashback on Obi-Wan and Anikin. This was nothing less of pure genious how the duell reflected the current situation and showed how Obi-Wan and Vader are in eachother's mind. BUT there is still so mich dumb disney shit. Showing how "awesome" leila is, Reva giving the signal to hold fire as fire had already stopped and THE MOST STUPID AND DISRESPECTUL THING WAS WHEN REVA TRIED TO SNEAK UP ON VADER. I'm just going to sneak up on the most powerful person in the galaxy. The idea of the plan was fantastic. Reva should have jumped in when Vader was holding the space ship taking off. That's when "Vader's eyes where on Obi-Wan". But no she waits and FUCKING SNEAKS UP ON HIM. What is this? Am I watching an episode of Tom & Jerry?
@hunglo9917
@hunglo9917 2 года назад
Hey!! Don’t disrespect Tom & Jerry like that! This is much much worse. Don’t get me started on Organa sending that dumbass message when he thought something bad happened to Obi-Wan. Why the fuck would anyone, especially someone like Organa, send arguably the most important information in the Galaxy out like that if you thought he was either captured or dead? The fuckkkkk?!?! Or how Reva has survived TWO stabbings of a lightsaber and Vader just let her lay there still alive like “oh uhh, she’ll die eventually…let’s move along.” Like WHAT?? Also, it still doesn’t explain how she knows that Anakin is Vader. Unless she heard his name called out from a clone trooper which they haven’t shown. I guess her intuition is enough for her to deduce that. Or how Vader couldn’t sense the presence of Obi-Wan and dozens of other people in a ship right behind the one he was taking down. Why couldn’t he grab the other one? Don’t give me that bullshit that he was drained of his powers and needed a cool down or that particular ship was faster. Him grabbing the other ship and then being attacked simultaneously by Reva would break his attention and hold on the ship allowing them to get away. How about when they had the blaster cannon firing at the door and it didn’t budge, but Reva takes her lightsaber to it for two seconds and gets it open? The fuck did you need the cannon for then? Or Lea being able to fix the wiring in the vents with no prior experience. Yeah, Anakin built C-3PO at a young age and was mechanical as hell. At least they eluded to him doing that stuff for years and more than likely got training from Wado perhaps. I can look past the Lea thing in this episode, but fuck man, I cannot suspend my disbelief that fucking much. A lot of people are gobbling this shit up and see no issues. I envy those people, I really do. I just can’t look past all the nonsensical contrived bullshit that’s in this series and in Disney’s Star Wars as a whole.
@ezequielmorales4221
@ezequielmorales4221 2 года назад
You are a child. A sith trying to kill another sith by stabbing him on the back is disrespectful and stupid? If you were a real fan you should know that it's the most common thing among sith. They usually hate the fuck out of each other and can't wait to kill the other to gain his place of power.
@atb2674
@atb2674 2 года назад
I think Disney knows what works, and what we want, but refuse to give up on making their square peg fit in a round hole.
@RetroGhoulHQ
@RetroGhoulHQ 2 года назад
@@hunglo9917 completely agree with all this except reva knowing vader is anakin- she was a youngling at the temple and he almost killed her as darth, so yeah a stormtrooper could have referred to him as vader or she recognised vader as anakin through the force since it would be the same as at the temple
@eppsislike
@eppsislike 2 года назад
Man, T&J had good writing.
@GaudiaCertaminisGaming
@GaudiaCertaminisGaming 2 года назад
I love the way Joe is so positive, then you see Little Joe and Alex looking like they've just been forced to eat a dead rat. Without ketchup.
@kingwarrop
@kingwarrop 2 года назад
I know right, Alex the Hater and OJ the c tier movie lover.
@djthequestion9717
@djthequestion9717 2 года назад
RIGHT!!! LMAO 🤣 🤣 🤣
@TheDark3lement
@TheDark3lement 2 года назад
@@kingwarrop I actually like Alex the most because of how critical he is. This show has problems. Big problems and hes there to point it out. If we let shows get away with this stuff they're just gonna keep doing it again and more often. Joe is a fan/average viewer interpretation and AJ is more of a outsider perspective.
@anthonyplanzo1082
@anthonyplanzo1082 2 года назад
The show is a mess. A total nightmare of storytelling
@ithiusdomino
@ithiusdomino 2 года назад
AJ tends to be way too positive on movies/shows, he gave Suicide Squad an 8 out of 10 with a "Bad Ass Seal of Approval". It might be him playing a character, it might just be that he lets himself be blinded by excitement for stuff he loves so that he can't properly judge it. Regardless his opinions are always at least 2 points too high. Alex is the one I respect the opinion of most, he looks for problems to critique which is what a critics job is.
@Alex_Logan22
@Alex_Logan22 2 года назад
None of these oversights bothered me as much as Reva leaving Obi-Wan to TWO Stormtroopers when she had an army right there. And the other thing that bothers me is why in the world would 2 Jedi or any humans spar with freakin lightsabers, training sticks or whatever would work just as well. Swordsmen don’t spar with swords, they use wooden swords, and swords are nowhere near as dangerous as lightsabers.
@mattgibbia2692
@mattgibbia2692 2 года назад
The amount of Star Wars stories that instantly fall apart if the Empire acted even a little bit smart is shocking. 2 Tie fighters to intercept any ships taking off and the whole episode falls apart.
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