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AngryJoe, OtherJoe & Alex Review the Finale Episode and the Series on the Whole of Obi-Wan Kenobi! Does it end satisfyingly? Does the stupid writing continue? YES! Our Final Thoughts!
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@lobsterminion693
@lobsterminion693 2 года назад
I love that Reva "honored" the dead Jedi by not murdering an innocent kid. This was, of course, after years of murdering Jedi.
@incognitofool6516
@incognitofool6516 2 года назад
There is a difference between killing capable and skilled adults and killing kids
@anthonyfernandez82
@anthonyfernandez82 2 года назад
Yeah... Is not killing a kid really redemption? Especially when you had every intent on doing it
@Subject_Keter
@Subject_Keter 2 года назад
She only did it cuz the plot demanded her so more fans dont leak out. There is nothing but rot in thay character heart.
@tiegideon9816
@tiegideon9816 2 года назад
The turn was too quick for 6 episodes, but it makes sense. If we assume she’s never been ordered to kill a kid before, it’s easy to see how she couldn’t bring herself to murder children like Vader (the man she hates) that killed her friends. That’s why she asked Obi-wan has she become like Vader. Murdering a child would make her what she dedicated her life to destroy.
@anthonyfernandez82
@anthonyfernandez82 2 года назад
@@tiegideon9816 there is absolutely no way the inquisitors have never killed kids. That's probably Vader's initiation rule
@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r
@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r 2 года назад
This whole show is the perfect example of using nostalgia to excuse a terrible plot. Yes, we got the Obi Wan vs Vader fight we always wanted, but we also had to endure some of the worst writing to get there.
@donkeydefense
@donkeydefense 2 года назад
The fight itself was bad. Super dark, terrible camera work, it was just bad.
@wolfbite6
@wolfbite6 2 года назад
Completely agree only good one has been Mando so far probably missing one more but 🤷🏿‍♂️
@jameskegen6812
@jameskegen6812 2 года назад
"The obi wan vs vader fight we always wanted". You just contracted yourself right there. There is no justification as to why they should have been battled before New Hope. You are a sucker for member berries like the rest of them. Its bad writing even if you wanted it.
@SOSO_CREPITUS
@SOSO_CREPITUS 2 года назад
What? That fight was the worst.. no tension.. bad choreography.
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 2 года назад
@@wolfbite6 💯
@jamememes4114
@jamememes4114 2 года назад
"There is too much stupid to ignore here." We are all losing for not having this team reviewing scripts before they get committed to film.
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 2 года назад
💯💯
@romulocardoso3380
@romulocardoso3380 2 года назад
They don't need to review. The Star Wars fandom is up to any garbage Disney throws on them.
@italianwaffle5592
@italianwaffle5592 2 года назад
@@romulocardoso3380 This. Everyone keeps blaming Disney but I don’t blame them for putting shows like Kenobi out, wouldn’t you? If 95% of your fan base gobbled up whatever you half-baked in the oven, you probably wouldn’t change the recipe or the cook time. Especially if you were making a heap of money while doing it.
@AlphaladZXA
@AlphaladZXA 2 года назад
@@italianwaffle5592 huh, sounds like pokemon
@RS-kt6bo
@RS-kt6bo 2 года назад
Keep in mind that these are the same 3 guys that make the most professional looking, high quality fanfilms. Check out their videogame reviews to see how skilled they are as filmmakers and storyboard writers 🤣🤣🤣. F'ing youtube trolls thinking it's an easy job being Spielberg. Gotta love how everyone is a professional critic and director on youtube.
@hamsterminator
@hamsterminator 2 года назад
Can we just spare a thought for Ewan McGregor? The guy repeatedly delivers the stale lines he's been given with class and quality. The guy is holding the show together as best he can.
@kamakazilee6066
@kamakazilee6066 2 года назад
I don’t agree all that much. The dialogue in the Star Wars franchise, even Mandalorian for that matter, it’s always been very corny, generic etc. it’s the actors charm that gives it the ‘okay I’ll let it slide’. Boba Fetts and Mandos lines are some of the cringiest ever but Temuera Morrison and Pascal are just so fucking cool that you couldn’t give a fuck 😂. This show, apart from certain aspects, I can’t honestly say it’s any different from the rest of the franchise in terms of plot conveniences, ‘weak writing’ and dialogue etc. they’re all a Star Wars trait at this point. Whatever to just enjoying a Star Wars property. The Sequels on the other hand, undeniably pathetic films
@Arcexey
@Arcexey 2 года назад
hamsterminator that excuse is long gone tbh I want to agree with you, but now he's just a shill for Disney, for Reva, and for his paycheck.
@steve87j
@steve87j 2 года назад
After making so much star wars content all these years you would think these quality and narrative issues wouldn't be an issue. Just proves Disney is just a business out to make money. I sense no passion from them anymore.
@Arcexey
@Arcexey 2 года назад
@@steve87j And if it's a business just out to make money and appease its shareholders and make max profit, that changes the way we attack Disney. It means we know that Disney doesn't put in woke shit in movies because they're stupid or don't understand Star Wars, they're doing it because they know exactly what they're doing on how to make money.
@hefoughtabear118
@hefoughtabear118 2 года назад
Hes been doing that since the Phantom menace
@SwanyPlaysGames
@SwanyPlaysGames 2 года назад
I've loved these reviews. The internet seems so blind by nostalgia that they give the AWFUL writing a pass. Reva's entire arc was so bad. Nothing about Reva made any sense in this finale.
@beansandbandaids8667
@beansandbandaids8667 2 года назад
*in this whole series
@MrHuppj
@MrHuppj 2 года назад
I have no idea what's even going on with Reva. I was so confused.
@Smokey1419
@Smokey1419 2 года назад
I feel like if they got a better actor it wouldve been ok, but her, Leia, and lil Ice Cube's acting wasnt great at all in this show
@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it
@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it 2 года назад
@@Smokey1419 true. she cant act . her expressions and behaviour is not even scary or sith like. she would fit better as java
@FroggyQC23
@FroggyQC23 2 года назад
The writing was great you're not making much sense.
@92bagder
@92bagder 2 года назад
obi won telling reva "you honor them" felt like the line from wandavision at the end trying to justify her torture of the town " they will never know your sacrifice"
@Revan-eb1wb
@Revan-eb1wb 2 года назад
The writing is simply embarrassing
@Obelion_
@Obelion_ 2 года назад
i mean she maybe slaughtered several jedi, countless civilians and was set on torturing leia, but she didnt murder a child so she is a good person right? i mean not murdering a child when you could have automatically makes you a good guy right?
@bluesrocker91
@bluesrocker91 2 года назад
That was the biggest WTF moment in the episode for me... Reva invades their home, beats the shit out of them, chases a 10 year old out into the desert, knocks him unconscious and then contemplates killing him but chickens out and brings him back, and that was "honouring them"? What the actual fuck?
@bigbowss9817
@bigbowss9817 2 года назад
He meant you honored them by showing mercy, not everything she did up until that point. Yall are so set on hating everything Disney does, it removes all objectivity...
@LembeckIsStaying
@LembeckIsStaying 2 года назад
That's still not "honoring" someone. I honor you by not killing you?
@alexanderkempf9828
@alexanderkempf9828 2 года назад
"She has to walk by a PICKLED YOUNGLING every morning" Dude I love Joe so much.
@kentsmith6769
@kentsmith6769 2 года назад
I couldn't stop laughing when he said that 🤣🤣🤣
@dug8377
@dug8377 2 года назад
I haven’t even gotten to that part of the video yet and I’m laughing at your comment
@treyday4846
@treyday4846 2 года назад
This show is so dumb don't let anime avatar trick you
@MrMercadier
@MrMercadier 2 года назад
The helmet slice thing was actually well done, not a duplicate from this perspective - Ashoka, destroyed one half of the helmet, Obi-Wan destroys the other half - neither redeemed him, but it was Luke that removed it to redeem him. Enjoyed the symbolism of it.
@Premosilva
@Premosilva 2 года назад
It's the symbolism bro. Some see it, most of us don't. Folks are too focused on how it should be instead of enjoying the show. This ep was amazing 💪🏽
@mannyTheGuy
@mannyTheGuy 2 года назад
@@Premosilva lol
@standardreplicantKD6-3.7
@standardreplicantKD6-3.7 2 года назад
@@Premosilva a tiny dose of symbolism doesnt redeem poor writing, poor dialogue, sub par action, semi comedic cinematography, etc. No only that but i wouldnt be suprised if the symbolism youre seeing wanst even intentional. This doesnt feel like passionate Star Wars like lucas was doing, as campy as it was. This feels like coporate Star Wars just pumping out coporate content for revenue. Its also very apparent that the showrunners probably didnt even watch much Star Wars or arent very versed in the lore and stuff. However, there will always be people pleased with the bare minimum and be happy to just consume media.
@Premosilva
@Premosilva 2 года назад
@@standardreplicantKD6-3.7 i had that feeling with episode 1,2 and 3. But still enjoyed the narrative between the lines. In the end all that matters is your own personal opinion. I have mines so I'm good and at peace with it. Thank you for sharing your point of view 💪🏽
@WyzeGuy
@WyzeGuy 2 года назад
Yes it's symbolic but it's also terribly generic. The idea of reminding the audience of Darth Vader's humanity via broken mask is effective but undeniably lazy.
@SoldierSpiderx
@SoldierSpiderx 2 года назад
At the end of the day, I feel like Reva was completely unnecessary to the story. You could have cut her out entirely and had Vader been the one doing everything she was doing. The focus should have been on those two the entire time and If this was just a movie and we had way more Ewan and Hayden I think the praise would be unreal, Ewan and Hayden did amazing and I'm just grateful that they returned and for their performances.
@christopherazzato7680
@christopherazzato7680 2 года назад
I love Moses Ingram. But her character did nothing for me
@Revan-eb1wb
@Revan-eb1wb 2 года назад
the character is beyond useless. ANd her scenes in the finale were pointless. Take them out and nothing would change
@129das
@129das 2 года назад
I didn’t watch it and your likely right also why didn’t she die after fight Vader. That might one of the dumbest stupids Vader not killing his opponents. What he trying to be a anime protagonist.
@Death_MTL_Dude
@Death_MTL_Dude 2 года назад
She’s there for a spin off. You know it. Consoom product and get ready for next product
@CruzaderKnight
@CruzaderKnight 2 года назад
Someone on youtube is currently working on a two-hour cut of Obi-Wan Kenobi with the Reva storyline very much cut down. Also, only ONE Leia rescue mission.
@Liesmith424
@Liesmith424 2 года назад
I like that Obi-wan traveled all the way to Leia's house on Alderaan to tell her that he shouldn't meet her because they're being watched. Meanwhile, the Empire *knows* that the Organa's have a connection to a fugitive Jedi, and it just doesn't give a shit.
@johnniewaiker6203
@johnniewaiker6203 2 года назад
The planet gets destroyed
@johnniewaiker6203
@johnniewaiker6203 2 года назад
@@acrane3496 they did choose the planet for a reason also out side it being Lea her home planet. They choose it because it had an important value for the rebels. Rebels who had help from the jedi so they got the ultimate punish for it. They made the death star to intimidate the Galaxy and they choose a specific planet to start with. If aldaraan didn't had those connections they would had choosen a planet with more value for the whole Galaxy not only Lea. She would had been intimidated by the destruction of any peaceful planet but this was also a statement for the rest of the resistance.
@Liesmith424
@Liesmith424 2 года назад
@@johnniewaiker6203 A couple decades later.
@johnniewaiker6203
@johnniewaiker6203 2 года назад
@@Liesmith424 yes a couple decades later the empire was fully transformed in the tyrannical order in the Galaxy and just started to destroying planets. It was just constructed because apparently small moons of metal takes a long time to make. May be you could make planet destroying moons within a month but Sith can't. Also in Kenobi they still have to work with the senate so they are not the openly evil force to begin with. Palpatine still has to play his part as being the good leader. They can't shoot down political influenced planets who supports democracy and the resistance against oppression with surviving jedi's and rebels.
@Liesmith424
@Liesmith424 2 года назад
@@johnniewaiker6203 What sort of mental gymnastics is this? They have no qualms about kidnapping and *torturing* the princess of Alderaan and daughter of a Senator. They have no problem with openly strolling around and murdering people. Harboring a Jedi is illegal. It's treason. If they were monitoring the Organas, they would have proof of collusion and could have Bail removed from power completely legally. But they're *not* monitoring the Organas. They're not doing jack shit.
@Rajonty
@Rajonty 2 года назад
Alex’s little smile of satisfaction when Joe goes on one of his rants never gets old lol
@austin_madore9417
@austin_madore9417 2 года назад
He’s like palpatine in revenge of the sith watching Vader get angry and smiling 😂
@MrChupacabra555
@MrChupacabra555 2 года назад
That's why we are all here. I've said it before, but hearing Joe rant about something he despises is kind of.....Comforting, in these harsh times ^_^
@WarThug13
@WarThug13 2 года назад
Good Joe, good! Let the hate flow through you!
@andrewroy9263
@andrewroy9263 2 года назад
Yes. It's 100% a "let the hate flow through you" kind of thing
@flightkidd123
@flightkidd123 2 года назад
Facts lol because that’s how Alex wants to let out what he wants to say without having to conduct how he’s going to say it first but joe does that for him
@Promance2300
@Promance2300 2 года назад
Seeing Reva getting home-aloned was the best part of the show.
@gabetrinidad1016
@gabetrinidad1016 2 года назад
😂🤣😅. It would have been better if they did do something like that with Luke.
@Dreamcatcher9000
@Dreamcatcher9000 2 года назад
@@boneidlethe3rd What?
@passiondono
@passiondono 2 года назад
"She has a pickled youngling!" Lost my shit with that one.
@TheOther-Dude
@TheOther-Dude 2 года назад
Same here! That had me cackling 🤣
@Subject_Keter
@Subject_Keter 2 года назад
Alex is carrying the show.
@thabg007
@thabg007 2 года назад
Lol I just happened to stop on this comment as he said it lol, perfect timing
@rashadsmith9489
@rashadsmith9489 2 года назад
😂😂facts
@Nick_Barone
@Nick_Barone 2 года назад
I feel terrible for Ewan McGreggor. He’s always surrounded by shitty writing in Star Wars while simultaneously being the best part of it.
@Rakshiir
@Rakshiir 2 года назад
Well I'd say Hayden is similar. The writing in the prequels especially in case of dialogue was really bad at times. I have to say I still like his acting as Vader, his stare after falling to the dark side when he didn't have to talk? That was pretty intimidating. Better than anything Reva had in this show by far. But yeah, they wasted Ewan and Hayden in this show. And destroyed both Vader and Kenobi. They both in interviews look like they enjoyed working on the movies and working together, but they have so little to work with. Writing and directing in this show was not at the level of the actors that should have played the biggest part in it. That Ewan wasn't really playing the main character tells you enough about the show tbh.
@rogerhalt3991
@rogerhalt3991 2 года назад
He was a producer on the show..
@westberlinerbuoi70
@westberlinerbuoi70 2 года назад
@@rogerhalt3991 yeah you would think he has some saying in the writing process, too. Not sure if he's really that innocent about this terrible af writing
@Sihmunath
@Sihmunath 2 года назад
Best part of Star Wars is dark side, but shitty made.
@chelouha
@chelouha 2 года назад
Ewan has shitty opinions and doesn't shut up when he should. I don't feel sorry for him.
@patriciosoler3861
@patriciosoler3861 2 года назад
"The best part of this episode is what they stole from Filoni". Perfectly stated, Alex. Feels like Joe went through his own reviewer/character arc. 6/10 = a "D" for Disney.
@ppsarrakis
@ppsarrakis 2 года назад
they also stole from Fallen order and maybe SWTOR for the force rock attacks,but i will allow the last one.
@commandershepard7728
@commandershepard7728 2 года назад
@@ppsarrakis DUDE! I was thinking about that Barrage of Rocks from Swtor.....and as much as I do despise his show , that one I can give a pass on lol
@cosmickeyboard9811
@cosmickeyboard9811 2 года назад
@@ppsarrakis that's not stolen, it's a scene to demonstrate power, u telling me if a force power already been done to not do it again? Tf
@treyday4846
@treyday4846 2 года назад
@@cosmickeyboard9811 it's unoriginal in a new show nothing new just recycling others people s work it happens to often to not notice how much they take from older shows and don't add anything new all the dope scenes are from other star wars content extremely disrespectful felt fan made low effects
@MetalGearBronya
@MetalGearBronya 2 года назад
@@treyday4846 also it's always been fact that Obi Wan was never that powerful of a force user. There was no way he could have overpowered Vader in a fight with force powers
@jazwilly85
@jazwilly85 2 года назад
This was the commentary I needed to hear. We cannot keep forgiving bad writing. Because it will keep bring down overall quality.
@EsotericOccultist
@EsotericOccultist 2 года назад
The obvious hatred of males can be forgiven right? Be sure not to mention that
@voilvelev6775
@voilvelev6775 2 года назад
@@EsotericOccultist Oh Jesus, you watch the Quartering, dont you hahahhahaha
@voilvelev6775
@voilvelev6775 2 года назад
RLM's review is the only objective and good review of this show.
@GodFootDaddyG
@GodFootDaddyG 2 года назад
@@voilvelev6775 you can't say objective without name dropping daddy long tentacles MauLer and the EFAP shows.
@steveswafen2528
@steveswafen2528 2 года назад
@@GodFootDaddyG Preach brother
@maomao180
@maomao180 2 года назад
There is absolutely no excuse for bad writing and directing when you're on a big production like this. No amount of "cool" moments can make up for the crap they made.
@Rakshiir
@Rakshiir 2 года назад
I think the show actually shows how little they care. Look at the grand inquisitor alone. He does NOT look like the character from rebels. And we SAW that specias in episode 3, when Kenobi fights Griveous. They looked WAY better then. If you can't even get a simple costume right with your budget, how do you expect to manage anything else? We have the actors, the characters are named Vader and Kenobi, thats close enough. If they are not the same characters they should be? Who cares, close enough. It was the same with Luke, he was called Luke, it was the same actors but it sure wasn't the same character. And somehow every capable Jedi from the old movies is now a bitter old man that talks about how the Jedi need to end or are useless. This is just another thing Disney created that for me cannot be part of the canon. Because it destroys to much of characters and creates plotholes for the original trilogy.
@zachrobinson6801
@zachrobinson6801 2 года назад
@@Rakshiir I used to disagree with people like on this but since the Grand Inquisitor doesn’t even fight I don’t know what they were thinking having him look like that. Ahsoka always got a pass due to fighting scenes and Cad Bane looked really good to me.
@Rakshiir
@Rakshiir 2 года назад
@@zachrobinson6801 Let`s just say they could have done a way better job. If they don`t, thats telling something.
@Astrothunder_
@Astrothunder_ 2 года назад
Gotta be honest, the cool moments in this single episode make up for all the shorty writing Lol. Had a lot of fun watching it.
@MyZ001
@MyZ001 2 года назад
@@Astrothunder_ Yea and watching Vader kick Reva's ass in E5. Totally worth it for me haha
@luckyspurs
@luckyspurs 2 года назад
I love how everyone really likes Hayden Christensen now. He's just a good guy.
@Splinter07
@Splinter07 2 года назад
Yes, I hope it's not sarcasm because he is, he deserves better but what you can do as an actor with horrible writer and director? You can't, it's physically impossible to make something memorable with such bad people around who worked at this tv show. The same happened with prequels. Bad writing and directing = bad acting, that's just how it is. Actors just have bad luck to work with what they get.
@SuperMasterJefe
@SuperMasterJefe 2 года назад
I always loved Hayden since i was a kid. Even when ppl gave him shit i was like nah i liked him in the prequels and he was good as Anakin. Even i understood it had to do more with the writing at 8 years old
@sallydrum7156
@sallydrum7156 2 года назад
Cannot forget the sand... and rat tail
@davidturrentine9318
@davidturrentine9318 2 года назад
Hayden is great in a movie called " The Last Man"
@johnshepard8556
@johnshepard8556 2 года назад
Just give the guy good writing which wasclacking from the prequels, and let's not forget he was very young during the prequels and i am sure he has developed as a acter and am looking forward to more anakin in the ashoka show which hopefully we will get alot more hayden before becoming vader
@aaronroberts7661
@aaronroberts7661 2 года назад
Literally just cried in laughter after joes “WHO IS FIRING” crosses his eye “I AM SIR”
@guzzoscorner
@guzzoscorner 2 года назад
I'm glad I'm not the only one who made the link to Spaceballs.
@hpe-eo4ce
@hpe-eo4ce 2 года назад
I lost it at "Uncle Fester"
@TheRedRaven_
@TheRedRaven_ 2 года назад
Sad Apple wont give us a cross eyed emoji, they act like Assholes don't exist.
@slanc6054
@slanc6054 2 года назад
I was also angry with how fast Reeva got to Tatooine but then my daughter pointed out some blocks at uncle Owen's farm that looked like companion cubes from Portal and we connected the dots....... It seems like Reeva has a Portal Gun xD
@AliothAncalagon
@AliothAncalagon 2 года назад
What I found the most stupid about the entire "increase firepower" command, was the implication that they didn't shoot all their guns yet. For no reason whatsoever.
@chacecrowell
@chacecrowell 2 года назад
In Empire Strikes Back Veers tells the ATAT gunners 'target maximum firepower' and the guns make a different sound so it's not unheard of
@techzone1552
@techzone1552 2 года назад
Yeah, it seems stupid not to fire at full power at first glance, but it utilizes way more energy. No need to use more power than needed if you could blow them up anyway (but they couldn't hit because of plot ig lol)
@luckylegs8547
@luckylegs8547 2 года назад
Huge plot armor
@ravenshrike
@ravenshrike 2 года назад
With laser/particle beam weapons, maximum power would be the equivalent of shooting hot loads from a normal firearm. Which increases wear on the firearm and can cause malfunctions, which can occasionally harm the user.
@ProjectMathesar
@ProjectMathesar 2 года назад
I noticed that too. And they only had one laser?
@j-mlion3424
@j-mlion3424 2 года назад
“Lord Vader, the last Kenobi episode just aired and we’re preparing to - “ “You have failed me for the last time, Disney”
@nightwatchm4n
@nightwatchm4n 2 года назад
I love how dead inside Alex looks through the majority of the episode. I can just picture a thought bubble coming from his head going, "Why are we STILL talking about this?"
@aesir1ases64
@aesir1ases64 2 года назад
because ...... KENOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBI
@orionslaver432
@orionslaver432 2 года назад
Pre-Rebellion Leia's depiction in The Force Unleashed was spot on - brave, strong willed and aristocratic but ultimately at the mercy of the Empire, held as a political hostage to keep her father in line.
@medalgear654
@medalgear654 2 года назад
yes, that was the most accurate Leia ever.
@aracelymoran2504
@aracelymoran2504 2 года назад
+ Orion Slaver That is what she was introduced as in EP 4, without the aristocratic bearing. That was a needed element and add on TFU presented in Leia.
@luchesiLux
@luchesiLux 5 месяцев назад
*I 100% agree with this*
@vinjass
@vinjass 2 года назад
Joe had a better character arc during these review videos than Reva. The self awareness was actually pretty impressive, props to Joe for admitting it, I fully agree with all of you. This should have been a character study of Obi-Wan believing that he could still get Anakin back to the light side, having flashbacks each episode a new lesson, until the final epic confrontation that we see in the concept art, it looks way cooler than random rocky planet. What a massive disappointment, Ewan and Hayden deserved better, they carried this series so hard it's not even funny.
@aesir1ases64
@aesir1ases64 2 года назад
BRUH!! Thank you! I feel the same, this series needed flashbacks all episodes to convey what Obi Wan had missed during the years he was training Anakin, it would serve the plot, enhance character development and most of it all, it would allow us to see the coolest moments of Star Wars (Clone Wars period) back on live action. The best scene from this whole show was the flashback from episode 5 and the parallels it lead with Vader hunting Kenobi, they could have done similiar things more often, instead we could useless Reva SMH. Disney fucked it up, again!
@jackd1364
@jackd1364 2 года назад
You're so right, they carried the series hard
@bigdaddy2706
@bigdaddy2706 2 года назад
Lol I don't blame Joe though. He is a fan and just wants to continue loving Star Wars. Disney treats us like battered wives.
@domomonstero3077
@domomonstero3077 2 года назад
I wish it was a cat and mouse show. Where Obi Wan goes around the galaxy collecting jedi material to either hide or study so he will be ready when Luke is of age. All of the while Vader or the Inquisitors chase him around but he never engages Vader. Let him fight the others but having him fight Vader takes away the importance of the New Hope fight.
@michaellane5381
@michaellane5381 2 года назад
I think the annoying part is half the series is pointless for that story too, while Joe is right that Reva could have been written ok, I think the saddest realization is that a writer capable of that given a story about Obi wan and writing it out should have cut her anyways, it honestly looks bare bones enough they could have been better off writing 3 episodes or 2 movies focusing on what they had with Obi/Vader.
@Be_reasonable101
@Be_reasonable101 2 года назад
There’s a huge difference between “it’s for children” and it being childish”. That’s the difference between the OT and Disney. Make a smart, mature show about space wizards and I guarantee the kids will love it.
@pagatryx5451
@pagatryx5451 2 года назад
Not just the kids. But the adults too. It's just good writing. That's what people want. And you don't have to sacrifice good writing when you're writing about space wizards. It's like they're just trying to make everything into Marvel. But it doesn't work. And the Marvel formula's cracks are beginning to show in marvel itself.
@supermelonbread
@supermelonbread 2 года назад
Exactly. Just look at Pixar. All of their "for children" films with writing in a different league than most other Disney productions.
@mattp6089
@mattp6089 2 года назад
@@pagatryx5451 Not so much, Marvel has deviated from the formula.
@shuheihisagi6689
@shuheihisagi6689 2 года назад
Whats so bad with the writing? Obi wan's arc to get over his guilt of failing Anakin was well written in my opinion. Was their some problems with Reeva, the new character? Sure but to me they weren't terrible enough to hate the show, and the parts of her story that were good was really good if you gave it a chance. Everytime we saw her thinking about her youngling friends who were killed by Anakin I thought she did a fantastic job making you feel for her, and understand her rage and path to the dark side. There was some plot holes, like Reeva's mind reading powers not being used when she should. And some decisions Vader and Obi Wan made were questionable, but I think Vader's choices can be rationalized more. Overall, I thought is was a great miniseries. My only complaint is that we didn't get to see force training with Qui-Gon.
@Burstify
@Burstify 2 года назад
@@shuheihisagi6689 L
@DSVII
@DSVII 2 года назад
Obi wan: "You overcame your hatred and redeemed yourself Reva." All the dead villagers and lady with chopped off hand earlier in the series: "you sure did!"
@TheNobleFive
@TheNobleFive 2 года назад
Vader did the same.
@joshuahearne4811
@joshuahearne4811 2 года назад
@@TheNobleFive but it doesn't try to say Vader overcame hatred and redeemed himself.
@CoalCoalJames
@CoalCoalJames 2 года назад
@@TheNobleFive It's not about doing the same stuff, it's about how you get there. Reusing tropes ect is fine, the whole drama over Disney star wars is that they just do it badly or don't follow the established formula.
@mccallosone4903
@mccallosone4903 2 года назад
yeah but Vader DIED. you can be redeemed, but that doesnt mean you dont have to face justice for the horrible things you did. these new writers always seem to forget that. bunch of hacks. also Reva was about as an intimidating a villian as a barking poodle. lame
@luiscypher9657
@luiscypher9657 2 года назад
Vader blew planets up saves Luke n oh its OK now you can b a force ghost on the light side, if u go down them lines
@LotR4Lyfe
@LotR4Lyfe 2 года назад
“In her basement she has a pickled youngling!!!” Laughed out loud in my very quiet office area. Great review parts of the show were enjoyable and parts were just awful.
@Wormtongue.
@Wormtongue. 2 года назад
Pretty disappointing that Kenobi had the smallest budget compared to there counterpart marvel shows, and even book of Boba had more
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 2 года назад
@@cliffchai3742 Most probably
@assasin1396
@assasin1396 2 года назад
@@cliffchai3742 money well spent imo Ewen is an amazing actor and both Hayden and Ewen are giving it there all in the scenes. I do wish Disney would increase the budget for the show. Don't get me wrong i like the show Hayden and Ewen sell the scenes they're in but all the time obi-wan spent around lia should've been spent protecting Luke. While it was kinda cool seeing owen protecting his nephew lets be real if the ot didn't already exist owen and bru would've died in this episode.
@Edax_Royeaux
@Edax_Royeaux 2 года назад
@@cliffchai3742 Except Ewan McGregor has expressed interesting in doing the show and even in doing Season 2. He might not have been interested in 2016 but something may have changed and I think it's more than a lust for money.
@isaacbeeby2528
@isaacbeeby2528 2 года назад
Boba Fett had more episodes, so of course it makes sense for it to have a larger budget.
@hamhockbeans
@hamhockbeans 2 года назад
Marvel has its own studio. They don't have to share budgets.
@jaymo3ny
@jaymo3ny 2 года назад
This whole show is a case study for "cool scenes" don't excuse poor writing.
@flyingnoodle3267
@flyingnoodle3267 2 года назад
Honestly the last lightsaber battle with Vader and Kenobi was the only actually cool scene in the show. All of the other action scenes were terribly acted and choreographed
@gigatremor9756
@gigatremor9756 2 года назад
Joe and crew don't know how to analyse fight choreography, Halo had awful combat scenes too.
@shell2835
@shell2835 2 года назад
What cool scenes
@tilemacro
@tilemacro 2 года назад
@@flyingnoodle3267 Cool scene that implies Kenobi is responsible for every death in episodes 4-5-6.
@randalthekidd7006
@randalthekidd7006 2 года назад
@@flyingnoodle3267 the last battle was pretty shit too. Like they haven’t passed fan film level once
@sethkrueger9294
@sethkrueger9294 2 года назад
Can SOMEBODY please explain to me WHY Reva goes after Luke? By all accounts, it doesn't make any sense. Her goal was to get Vader, and she fails, so she decides to just hightail it to Tatooine and kill a child? What am I missing? The only thing I can think of is that she wants to hurt Vader by killing his son, but she has NO IDEA that Luke and Vader are related!
@beansandbandaids8667
@beansandbandaids8667 2 года назад
Vader has no idea LUKE exists. It's stupid writing
@Darkpara1
@Darkpara1 2 года назад
I guess it was a kind of a revenge for Obi Wan fucking her over. Because it's never said that she knows he's Vader's son.
@roberthesser6402
@roberthesser6402 2 года назад
@@Darkpara1 I know some people have suggested that but she doesn’t show any sign whatsoever that she’s angry at obi wan specifically. She just says that she wants justice when she explains why she wants to kill Luke, and her only motivation up to this point was to get to Vader. And when Obi-Wan does meet with her at the end, she doesn’t mention any anger or resentment for him screwing her over.
@Junior.illinois
@Junior.illinois 2 года назад
Bad writing and woke agenda
@fleisbester612
@fleisbester612 2 года назад
@@beansandbandaids8667 How she would know that Vader didn't know that Luke exists?
@bio-weaponn5576
@bio-weaponn5576 2 года назад
Women in Disney: Absolutely perfect in every way, can be anything they want at anytime, completely flawless, can never do or be wrong, and never has to face consequences. Women in real life: Can we just be represented by someone with a fucking arc?
@wingthomaux
@wingthomaux 2 года назад
Funny enough “badass“ farmer wife Beru nearly got her whole family killed, Reva gets destroyed by Vader, the undercover girl gets killed by a STORMTROOPER.
@ZenithTech35
@ZenithTech35 2 года назад
I knew from the beginning that Reva would have a redemption arc, but the way they handled it felt VERY forced, and awkward. In my opinion, the best way that they could have handled it would've been to have Vader stab her, and - whilst slowly and visibly dying - she would notice the communicator on the ground, and crawl over to it as the Imperial forces start to sweep the area. After listening to it, she portrays a face of conflict, and confusion. She'd have hallucinations of herself as a child during order 66, and of Vader's mask, the same way she did when she was about to kill Luke, and as a group of Storm Troopers enter the room and also notice the communicator, whether out of spite for Vader, or because she truly turned, she would destroy it before they could get to it and relay the information to Vader. Then she'd finally succumb to her LITERAL LIGHTSABER IMPALEMENT. _That_ would've been a worthy end to that character. Making her do all this nonsensical bullshit truly makes zero sense. If Qui-Gon died from being gored, she definitely should, too. Not to mention there's simply no way she could've gotten to Tatooine that fast. She shouldn't even be able to stand, let alone get through a battalion of troopers to get to a ship. And I really don't even know where her motivations even came from for hunting down Luke. She doesn't know ANYTHING about him. She has no way of knowing Luke was Vader's son what-so-ever, even from the recording. It really seems like she just got the urge to go kill a kid out of nowhere.
@VincentStevenStudio
@VincentStevenStudio 2 года назад
The best way to handle her is to just remove her character from the show. She sucks. Nobody cares. Keep the focus on Vader and Obi-Wan.
@thundergod3030
@thundergod3030 2 года назад
I think you are understating how jarring it is to see the writers go from Reva being impaled on the ground to being fully functional on Tatooine (although lightly injured), while running in tandem the ship chase. Then the cargo ship Obiwan was on just happens to have a ship inside of their ship with functional hyper drive, How fortunate for them. Obiwan going from duel planet to tatooine is also a huge time skip. No fighters from the star destroyer and no tractor beams. After the fight the destroyer Vader was on proceed to watch Obiwan Fly off do NOTHING like following him or stopping him... Writing is horrible in this show, the writers need to do some serious storyboard work to make the story even remotely coherent.
@denizbeytekin9853
@denizbeytekin9853 2 года назад
Obiwan isn’t able to penetrate Vader’s armor with 200 freaking rocks but somehow he is able to do it with the grip of his lightsaber… interesting as f*ck.
@billedefoudre
@billedefoudre 2 года назад
Also : two farmers from Tatooine are up to par with an injured Inquisitor. (just like a single armorless rebels can slap 50 stormtroopers at close range) Awesome, just awesome.
@No1ANTAGON1ST
@No1ANTAGON1ST 2 года назад
I think deep there's a part of every story you're invested in that also has elements of characters being fortunate miraculously. Making this series the scapegoat of that is random though.
@famousthaneus9810
@famousthaneus9810 2 года назад
​@@No1ANTAGON1ST Yes, almost every story has some level of plot armor/convenience for certain characters for the sake of the story. What makes that an issue for some stories and not for others, is the quality of the story as a whole. Even if the story isn't the most intricate: is it being executed in a way that I can see this obvious bit of convenience and it not take me out of everything else. This show was not executed in a way that could keep you engaged despite contrivances.
@D1NOSAUR1A
@D1NOSAUR1A 2 года назад
I guess you could say all the Tatooine stuff happens a few days after the Vader/obi-wan stuff. No idea why they chose to write and/or edit it this way if thats the case though.
@50043211
@50043211 2 года назад
I will never understand how Disney fails so miserably to hire good writters for their SW franchies. They only invested a couple of billion $.
@Logic105
@Logic105 2 года назад
They don't care about losing money. They're goal is to push a political/cultural agenda to brainwash the masses into a cult.
@hamsterminator
@hamsterminator 2 года назад
Seen a few big budget productions lately with more than averagely awful scripts (secrets of dumbledore, dr strange 2, obiwan). It's like the writers strike in 2007 but it's not made the headlines for some reason...
@jebblottin92
@jebblottin92 2 года назад
Good writing takes time that Disney won't spare because they need to shill Disney+. I guarantee that every shoe they make is being rushed.
@50043211
@50043211 2 года назад
@@jebblottin92 You could be right. Its the production triangle and they probably use high end visuals to distract from lack of substance and coherent story telling.
@novakrabby
@novakrabby 2 года назад
To be fair any good writer probably wont want anything to do with Disney's strict rules
@ShadowNova300
@ShadowNova300 2 года назад
The Vader and Obi-Wan fight got me emotional. Best part of this episode by far.
@Stealth
@Stealth 2 года назад
Twice obi-wan beat vader and twice obi-wan walked away. Now that’s love
@vincentzhaiven4017
@vincentzhaiven4017 2 года назад
Why couldn't of obi just told anakin about his kids? That could of prevented so much. I get for plot sake and what not but still..probably could of reached some human part of him..
@TubeEamo
@TubeEamo 2 года назад
Are you insane? Did you see what Vader was doing at that time. He would have likely made them Sith. Vader himself said it was wise of Kenobi to hide them from him. But more importantly, keeping them safe from the Emperor was equally important.
@papalevan
@papalevan 2 года назад
@@vincentzhaiven4017 bruh what
@braedencooper1095
@braedencooper1095 2 года назад
@@papalevan Perfectly balanced, as all things should be...wait wrong universe
@vincentzhaiven4017
@vincentzhaiven4017 2 года назад
@@TubeEamo No , I'm looking at it from the standpoint of someone who's grown up with this entire series as it's progressed from movie to comic books to video games to TV shows. As ruthless as he's capable of being he's been shown to have fleeting moments of compassion and not entirely in the interest of Palpatine. I never claimed it would work or anything. But a younger anakin (opposed to a much older verion drunk on years of power and hatred) may have been easier to tear out of Palpatines control knowing everything up until that point he was told about the kids at least was a lie by someone he viewed as his mentor.
@GaryGyarados
@GaryGyarados 2 года назад
Beru: "We can stop an Imperial Inquisitor with just the two of us!" Every TRUE Star Wars fan: "Beru, nine years from now, the two of you will not even be able to stop four Stormtroopers."
@Mythowars
@Mythowars 2 года назад
They get fried 💀
@thewatcher6969
@thewatcher6969 2 года назад
I mean do we even know what happened to them when Luke was gone? They got burnt to a crisp so like...did a flamethrower trooper do the job? Imagine being burned alive. Yikes.
@callumager537
@callumager537 2 года назад
I never thought of that 😂 This episode…the more I think about it the worse it gets.
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 2 года назад
@@callumager537 💯💯
@Edax_Royeaux
@Edax_Royeaux 2 года назад
@@thewatcher6969 We find out Beru was cooking some French Fries and burned down the house like Rich Evans did.
@benjaminprieto6605
@benjaminprieto6605 2 года назад
Another important factor that has damage the series is the music. They have minimize the usage of the classic scores, but failed to introduce anything that you can remember. It is also hurting the rythm and importance of the scenes.
@dankmemes4dayz
@dankmemes4dayz 2 года назад
The music is TRASH just look at the reva v .vader scene
@jeffa.2092
@jeffa.2092 2 года назад
Wonderful call out!! I finally noticed that during the duel between Vader and Ben. The music felt off and was also too loud at times. I felt it took away from the fight
@JH-zs6vh
@JH-zs6vh 2 года назад
They did the same with Halo.
@nathancrossen2224
@nathancrossen2224 2 года назад
Ewan and Liam "buddy" story is EXACTLY what the show should have been in the first place. I'm willing to try Andor, but we KNOW what happens to him so all tension with him disappears.
@Hendur
@Hendur 2 года назад
bro we all knew what was happening to Obi Wan, that never takes out the tension of a prequel story
@DR.DisInfect
@DR.DisInfect 2 года назад
Don't try Andor it is a big yikes 3 episodes in
@jessetheanimenerd3304
@jessetheanimenerd3304 Год назад
@@DR.DisInfect Poorly aged comment.
@countof3everybodyOD
@countof3everybodyOD 11 месяцев назад
@@jessetheanimenerd3304but come on, with their track record who would’ve thought Andor would have been amazing
@willerwin3201
@willerwin3201 2 года назад
*I could fly a Death Star through the plot holes of this episode:* 1. The star destroyer can only chase one ship at a time, *despite it carrying other ships and fighters.* 2. The transport’s hyperdrive doesn’t work, *but it carries a dropship with a hyperdrive* that can get to Tatooine in a few minutes. Cram those people in the dropship and zoom away. Problem solved. 3. Reva traveled to Tatooine *with no ship or medical attention after being run through by Vader and left for dead on a deserted world.* 4. Reva goes after Luke *when she is no longer an inquisitor and has no duty or established motive for doing so.* 5. Kenobi talks about how important it is to maintain secrecy *while meeting with the royal family and discussing these events out in the open in the middle of a city on Alderaan.* 6. Owen and Beru somehow don't die in 5 seconds while fighting with a couple of blasters and a big stick at close quarters against an enemy with a lightsaber/the force *but then they give up and let her walk across the desert after Luke.* 7. On the flipside, Reva is so wounded that she can’t beat a couple of farmers, *but she chases and then carries Luke for miles across a desert like it's nothing.* 8. Bail Organa was going to Tatooine in the previous episode, *but then he doesn’t with no explanation.* 9. *There are no repercussions* for kidnapping an imperial senator’s daughter and no follow up action against Leia, even though the Inquisition now knows that she is aligned with and has inside knowledge of the Jedi Underground Railroad. 10. At the start, the transport is under heavy bombardment, and the shield could fail and ship blow up at any moment, *but Obi-Wan takes 10 minutes to have unnecessary conversations and counsel the people on the ship before he goes.*
@spins321
@spins321 2 года назад
#2. The show supports this because we've already seen that apparently a Snowspeeder can carry 3 adults and a child....
@timothyarnold1679
@timothyarnold1679 2 года назад
Much of what you say is valid... but I lean more into Reva being so wounded she could barely fight off two talentless farmers. Also, would the Organa's pursue legal action against... Vader? That's not gonna end well. Even if they were able to pursue legal action. That would draw attention to Leia's provenance.
@ShugaBuns1
@ShugaBuns1 2 года назад
Reva's motivation for killing luke was to get revenge for what Anakin/Darth Vader did to her friends. It wasn't outright stated but is heavily implied.
@bravozero6
@bravozero6 2 года назад
@@ShugaBuns1 except she has 0 knowledge that Luke is Vaders son. She does it because Bail says ObiWan is Lukes gaurdian in the hologram and she blames obiwan for vader
@jayhartRIC
@jayhartRIC 2 года назад
@@bravozero6 yea it would have made more sense that she wanted revenge on Obiwan. She doesn't say anything though so hard to tell.
@Arkkis3014
@Arkkis3014 2 года назад
never mind the fact that Reva was run through with a lightsaber but hours later without any medical attention is apparently totally fine and running after Luke! was a shitshow. every single scene has ridiculously bad writing and nonsensical moments.
@makisbizarreadventure4669
@makisbizarreadventure4669 2 года назад
Well she wasn’t totally fine lol But ye
@billcipher9068
@billcipher9068 2 года назад
Lol obviously she learnt an weak version of force heal
@matheuscruz8574
@matheuscruz8574 2 года назад
What would you expect from a character that was only added for MUH DIVERSITY
@billserad1869
@billserad1869 2 года назад
she obviously wasn't fine.....they literally used her injuries in the scenes
@Xolar66
@Xolar66 2 года назад
i wouldnt say totally fine. maybe thats why the farmers were able to match revas strength. she was hurt and not at total power
@shadow12k
@shadow12k 2 года назад
All this episode taught me was light saber stabs to the stomach does nothing. To a lower degree hits to the face.
@mgslegends
@mgslegends 2 года назад
Tell Han Solo that.....
@Revan-eb1wb
@Revan-eb1wb 2 года назад
Increase light saber power!!!
@HatedJared
@HatedJared 2 года назад
Yeah Qui-Gon was obviously just a big ol Bitch
@shawklan27
@shawklan27 2 года назад
@@mgslegends he didn't have the force so he was fucked from the start
@rsmith8113
@rsmith8113 2 года назад
Qui-gon 🙃
@gking2709
@gking2709 2 года назад
The kid being more excited over a toy that someone she knows is actually pretty realistic lol Disney got 1 thing right
@joaomonteiro5538
@joaomonteiro5538 2 года назад
The shuttle escape breakdown: 1-Dave got married and invited all his friends; so, no fighter cover. 2-The guys at the fore-decks got invited too; so, no tractor beam. 3-The guys at the turrets were on duty that day, so, in less-than-silent protest, deliberately missed their shots. 4-The soon-to-be rebels bought the shield from another show, so, it holds all day. 5-With no fighters to run down the shuttle, Vader giver the commands he can with the resources he has. 6-After he leaves to fight Obi-Wan the remaining crew take turns to see if there´s any wedding cake left.
@theguywhowentthere3346
@theguywhowentthere3346 2 года назад
well... DAMN! Yeah! Okay! Makes sense, but you forgot that after obi-wan leaves the planet after kicking vaders ass. Where in the HELL did the Star Destroyer go? "Ok, we drop vader off here, go get some milk, we'll be back by the time he finishes up." WHAT THE HELL???
@ppsarrakis
@ppsarrakis 2 года назад
they couldnt fly the fighters due to the fuel prices.
@joaomonteiro5538
@joaomonteiro5538 2 года назад
@@theguywhowentthere3346 They took the opportunity to attend Dave's wedding reception while there're some shrimp left.
@brickmatt6776
@brickmatt6776 2 года назад
@@theguywhowentthere3346 same problem for the Star Destroyer above the Rebel base... why the fuck can't it blow up the ship leaving atmosphere???
@edwardrichtofen8530
@edwardrichtofen8530 2 года назад
@@brickmatt6776 cause they want a “high stakes” situation but don’t want to deal with the problems a high stake situation would bring.
@lmojol9673
@lmojol9673 2 года назад
During Obi-Wan's reckoning (I guess? idk lol) when he looks back at everything he loves, it would have been a nice touch for us to see more people during different times in his life. For example, it would have been nice to see maybe some young Anakin scenes, Padme, Qui-Gon, Yoda, or even someone dressed up as Satine would have been a really nice touch. They kind of blew it though when it was all Leia... like, Obi-Wan has more to look back on and live for.
@Kaunte
@Kaunte 2 года назад
Guess they wanted it to be more about the future than the past
@omarmedina3893
@omarmedina3893 2 года назад
This i completely agree, but i also understand that he's fighting for the future, for the hope they represent... And I'm glad they focused on Leia... We have a whole trilogy of Luke.. let Leia have this one
@chettonex
@chettonex 2 года назад
Obi-wan became more attached to Leia in a couple of days than all his fallen friends that he shared several years.
@tsavin
@tsavin 2 года назад
She has brought him back to himself. Meeting Leia healed his connection to the Light Side.
@chrisc6457
@chrisc6457 2 года назад
@@chettonex you could argue Leia is a Granddaughter to Obi-Wan.
@BattleGopher
@BattleGopher 2 года назад
my favorite part of these reviews is watching alex sit in sadness about the bad writing while angry joe explodes
@thedilla863
@thedilla863 2 года назад
Bless you 3 for nailing it on the head every time and telling it like it is. Always confuses me when I read people posting about how amazing this show is. Are we watching the same show?? It helps to just think of Disney's shit as bad fan fiction. Also "pickled youngling" had me dying! 😂
@martinqizeaq
@martinqizeaq 2 года назад
So sad that people judge the show for the duel, and praise it based on that alone. And ignore every stupid thing that happened before.
@foxfire1112
@foxfire1112 2 года назад
Why would someone liking something confuse you
@khayree7929
@khayree7929 2 года назад
@@martinqizeaq the duel was trash if you ask me
@khayree7929
@khayree7929 2 года назад
The people pushing this show like that are the fanboys. The same guys who thinks critiques are complaints…
@SoLoboo
@SoLoboo 2 года назад
That apology scene was absolutely amazing. Reva was completely unnecessary to the story and a waste of runtime. Had alot of non-needed scenes & storylines been cut, the fire parts could have been more potent.
@karlimo4034
@karlimo4034 2 года назад
They have to add the manly lesbian token, key to everything now.
@memelord1974
@memelord1974 2 года назад
“Absolutely amazing” is a bit of a stretch. It was a competent moment in an otherwise disastrous show
@David-ys4ud
@David-ys4ud 2 года назад
They are going woke and want to give her her own spin off series.
@asteria9963
@asteria9963 2 года назад
Note how all these bigots have hijacked an otherwise good comment to spread their sexist bullshit. You're really that desperate, aren't you?
@levinabear5234
@levinabear5234 2 года назад
They used Obi-wan and Vader to prop her up, now shes getting her own spin off and probably in season 2 of kenobi with a redemption arc. If they didnt do this nobody would watch a Reva show.
@DEML91
@DEML91 2 года назад
The best part of this terribly written series from Disney is that we get some good laughs out of the Angry Reviews 🤣
@asudevil316
@asudevil316 2 года назад
@Nicholas Colvard yup, the grifters can't stop grifting
@ChickenLoverGamer
@ChickenLoverGamer 2 года назад
You have a hard on For Disney. Lol. You’ve commented over 50 times, about Disney. Sorry to break the ice, But Disney doesn’t know you
@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09
@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 2 года назад
And from the EFAP coverage.
@colbysmith3073
@colbysmith3073 2 года назад
@@ChickenLoverGamer We get it, you liked the show. No need to be triggered, there’s plenty of circle jerks about this show out there and you can go join in.
@CoalCoalJames
@CoalCoalJames 2 года назад
@Nicholas Colvard Actually *pushes glasses up and snorts obnoxiously~ Reviews and group discussions around these abysmal series get hundreds of millions more views than the series themselves, fans overwhelmingly reject this crap and just watch people they trust to get some enjoyment out of these failed series and try to understand why they keep failing. All hail to my grifters out there, keep up the good work and keep pissing the normies off!!!
@TheRibottoStudios
@TheRibottoStudios 2 года назад
Episodes 5 and 6 were co written by Andrew Stanton, who has a DECORATED career writing some of Pixar's BIGGEST movies, even as far back as co-writing Toy Story. So the upgrade in quality leads me to wonder WHY on EARTH didn't they hire him as the lead writer from the jump? THIS is the type of quality writing we should've had from the get go. Characters as nuanced as Anakin Skywalker, Ahsoka Tano, Obi-Wan Kenobi DO NOT belong in the hands of someone with cursory knowledge of Star Wars, yet this project was given to someone with cursory knowledge.
@__-fi6xg
@__-fi6xg 2 года назад
and probably insecuritys about his/hers/its own genders.
@devincognito8932
@devincognito8932 2 года назад
Is he the guy that had a ted talk on storytelling where he explained the whole thought process of toy story?
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 2 года назад
💯💯💯💯💯
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 2 года назад
Episode 5 is the best
@TheRibottoStudios
@TheRibottoStudios 2 года назад
@@devincognito8932 YEP YEP YEP. Fun fact his own personal birth is what inspired the opening for Finding Nemo. The second chance he got.
@elliotwatson3964
@elliotwatson3964 2 года назад
I am so with Joe here, I thought exactly the same thing "if Luke sees a lightsaber here, then they fucked up"
@ThunderDragonRandy
@ThunderDragonRandy Год назад
Unless if Luke suffers memory loss from getting knocked out unconscious.
@kevingarduno3274
@kevingarduno3274 2 года назад
I honestly feel bad for Reva's actress. Her role is extremely forced into the show and unnessecary, not to mention the massive plot holes she creates. Between her knowing Vader is Anakin(which is explained but even then its still a bit shaky) and then deciding to kill some kid she just learned existed for no reason whatsoever. She survives a lightsaber stab wound and magically teleports across the galaxy without treating her injury and just being alright.
@TheJotaroKujo
@TheJotaroKujo 2 года назад
The worst part is that she was specifically cast because she was a female poc in order to avoid criticism and just virtue signal those who do dare to criticize the character. So yeah, woke Disney is USING minorities while preaching against it. It's beyond disgusting.
@nickn271
@nickn271 2 года назад
I only watched part of the last episode and every time I was fast forwarding and it stopped on her she was doing some annoying growl/yell like “RRRRRRRRAAAAAAH!!” Super cringe. I do feel bad for her because it was ultimately the character, not her but I wonder if those growls were her own addition and if so it’s pretty amateur.
@MarvelousMusicmmusic
@MarvelousMusicmmusic 2 года назад
@@TheJotaroKujo She was specifically cast because she was a female person of color? What are you smoking dude? The sister in one of the most recent Star Wars games was middle eastern, I didn’t see you guys bitch and moan about that. Was Samuel Jackson hired for the same reasons? Lando? Organa? The actor who plays the clone trooper & boba? You guys are pathetic and cringe and obviously have an agenda yourself like the people you claim to hate. A male sjw, you are what you hate
@kevingarduno3274
@kevingarduno3274 2 года назад
@@TheJotaroKujo Honestly yeah. Disney even warned her about racist backlash. Almost like they knew Reva sucked in the show and they decided to deflect criticism as racism
@arbiter8246
@arbiter8246 2 года назад
Yeah I never understood why she wanted to kill the kid? I thought she was going to inform or bring him to Vader. Maybe she wanted revenge because she knew he was the son of Vader.
@youtubepolicey
@youtubepolicey 2 года назад
I love how Obi-Wan is now responsible for mass genocide since he let Vader live again.
@JoelChenFa
@JoelChenFa 2 года назад
Me and my wife went "What the fuck?" when he let vader go. He could have killed him, but no, Alderaan must go i guess
@MrFoolD
@MrFoolD 2 года назад
The Vader and Obi Wan fight alone was better then the entire new trilogy
@richardsylvester4518
@richardsylvester4518 2 года назад
Meh. Choreogrpahy wasn't great. Baseball bat swinging. But your probably right. Still better than sequels, but thats not saying much.
@illansuu9572
@illansuu9572 2 года назад
@@richardsylvester4518 yeah well i mean they still havent gotten Nic Gillard back to choreographing duels wich is annoying since his duels in the phantom menace and the revenge of the sith were fucking amazing and make even this look like two drunk guys fighting with baseball bats. Its rediculous why they didnt rehire him for the sequals and for basically everything starwars related since all of these movies and serieses would be so much better if he was involved. Atleast they would be more entertaining i mean, the writting would still be ass
@arclite95
@arclite95 2 года назад
it was cringe AF
@andothersuchnonsense2685
@andothersuchnonsense2685 2 года назад
@@JimmyRenders No, they use lightsabers, not cannons.
@Santiago_RS
@Santiago_RS 2 года назад
@@richardsylvester4518 Yeah there was some Baseball bat swinging on this duel lol, but not as much as in the sequels. Personally I loved this duel and I liked all the left handed moves by Obi-Wan
@7REY1017
@7REY1017 2 года назад
Ewan and Hayden did their thing in this. The Vader vs Kenobi scenes were amazing and the only thing that I really enjoyed from this show. In the finale, every time it transitioned to Reva I was genuinely upset and irritated because I didn’t care. That’s nothing against the actors because they did the best they could. But the writing and her overall arc just was not interesting and I could not have gave any less of a fuck what she was doing because I knew ultimately it had no effect on the events that followed.
@DeepSpaceNinja
@DeepSpaceNinja 2 года назад
Yeah especially because nothing mattered. Her killing the high inquisitor didn't matter. Backstabbing Vader didn't matter. Her getting stabbed didn't matter. And we knew that Luke would be okay, so again her attack in Tattoine didn't matter. Her ENTIRE arc didn't change anything.
@beansandbandaids8667
@beansandbandaids8667 2 года назад
"She has to pass the pickled youngling" 😂😂 that's a line I never thought I'd hear
@Evilgamingll
@Evilgamingll 2 года назад
I fucking lost it when he said that . 😂
@cornflakesandmilk8157
@cornflakesandmilk8157 2 года назад
Never understood the Disney + series style of having a different director for every individual episode it can work great if the writing is strong, but if it's mediocre or poor, the direction just emphasise it.
@marcoslopez_
@marcoslopez_ 2 года назад
Could be wrong but don’t most shows use a different director every episode? I know shows like Breaking Bad did this and it turned out great.
@92bagder
@92bagder 2 года назад
@@marcoslopez_ yeah but that show had great writing
@cassiar4606
@cassiar4606 2 года назад
It's the norm in the industry to have different directors on every episode. This a failure of the showrunner / executive producer. It's their job to guide the show
@isaacbeeby2528
@isaacbeeby2528 2 года назад
Um you do realise that every episode of Obi-Wan was directed by the same person right?
@mitkoogrozev
@mitkoogrozev 2 года назад
But this particular show was directed by one person. The better shows, (Mando and Boba Fett) were directed by multiple.
@andreasniedam9945
@andreasniedam9945 2 года назад
Disney is literally so absorbed into setting up new characters for new shows to milk stupid cash monkeys, that they made a show called OBI-WAN about an unsympathetic murderer named Reva.
@thomastalks3841
@thomastalks3841 2 года назад
I know :(
@oXRaptorzXo
@oXRaptorzXo 2 года назад
Obiwan has way more screen time and development
@Chablar89
@Chablar89 2 года назад
Gotta say, I was so disappointed by the Qui-Gon appearance. Qui-Gon found Anakin as a slave, openly defied the council to train him and it was his dying wish to Obi-Wan that he gets trained by him alone. After everything Vader has done we don't get a single word, expression or anything to hint at how Qui-Gon feels about what happened with Anakin. Does he feel responsible? Would have have acted differently? Would he have trained Anakin differently? Instead we get like 2 lines, it's like Liam Neeson is being paid by the word or something.
@recover2077
@recover2077 2 года назад
I would assume that they literally had him for about a couple hours, did the make up and had him read some lines on a green screen.
@Edax_Royeaux
@Edax_Royeaux 2 года назад
@@recover2077 He still could have said "It wasn't your fault Obi-Wan, it was mine." when Obi-Wan was at his low point, giving him the strength to curb stomp Vader.
@HappyDude1
@HappyDude1 2 года назад
It feels like they write the story as they film it 😀
@GeneralErlend
@GeneralErlend 2 года назад
Just like a TCW episode. While taking other material just doing it worse.
@danw7864
@danw7864 2 года назад
This is exactly what I think too. It’s crazy to me that the story isn’t vetted more prior to spending so much money and effort on all the other things. You’d think the story would practically be the easy part. It’s Star Wars! It’s good versus evil and the characters are already established and beloved by multiple generations. It just should not be that difficult.
@danw7864
@danw7864 2 года назад
I would have done the story from primarily Kenobi’s perspective. I think it would have been amazing to see the desperation and fallout of the Jedi collapse. Kenobi could have had several desperate stories of him saving people, trying to save force sensitive people, empire at every turn… I mean almost could be like the video game fallen order type of deal. Re-learning the force, going to cool remote jedi temples, see lots of alien wildlife and shit… expand the lore, a new planet… he should have also fought inquisitors and killed them so it explains why they aren’t around in episode 4, 5 and 6. I don’t need to see leia and Luke much or at all. So it’s kinda like setting the stage for the original triology and why it gave Luke even a chance in the first place.
@HappyDude1
@HappyDude1 2 года назад
@@danw7864 Right that would be cool I never heard of inquisitors in the originals. So its weird to see its a big deal now. And all that weird shit like blocking blasters from a ship 🤭 and shields that can hold blasters from a star destroyer No tie fighters .... fights scenes in the dark like game of thrones Its lazy writing and cheografy Thats what disney does. They just dont care. Everything they buy they destroy. They just want money. I think all the adventures of han solo and lando with the falcon would be cool when he was a outlaw
@ElPsyKongroo
@ElPsyKongroo 2 года назад
@@GeneralErlend the clone wars is brilliant sure there's a few low quality episodes but the majority of it is fantastic
@Saituros
@Saituros 2 года назад
Alex's series review was spot on. It just seems like the director's have no interest in understanding the universe they are working with and just go with the flow of things. As a fellow Star Wars fan, I remember being so pumped when Disney bought the franchise. I wish now it had just been left alone. At least the old EU books hit more than they missed.
@pillarsofsnow7940
@pillarsofsnow7940 2 года назад
I strongly disagree, I found the books significantly more miss than hit
@geesixnine
@geesixnine 2 года назад
@@pillarsofsnow7940 just wait until you read the new shit
@Saituros
@Saituros 2 года назад
@@pillarsofsnow7940 agree to disagree. I loved thrown trilogy, x wing, shadows of the empire, NJO (most of it anyways). There are definitely rough parts but at least it feels somewhat thought out and coherent. Much more than what Disney has given us. Outside of Mando S1, Rogue One, and a glimmer here and there with its other products it’s been a mess.
@BasementPepperoni
@BasementPepperoni 2 года назад
Yea, after the Mandalorian I really did think, against my better judgement, that Disney turned over a new leaf and are on the right track with making GOOD Star Wars shows. Obviously, lighting only strikes once because everything after the Mandalorian has been awful, smfh.
@Sn0w_Official
@Sn0w_Official 2 года назад
@@BasementPepperoni Yeah with how the Mandalorian went, I thought, "Okay, this is good, now let's see how Boba Fett do- oh...oh dear, how?!"
@hagakura
@hagakura 2 года назад
Disney must really hate that Luke is integral to the Star Wars Mythos.
@jrc-kb3ug
@jrc-kb3ug 2 года назад
Disney: “WHAT ABOUT LEIA? SHE’S JUST AS IMPORTANT AS HE IS” lmao
@ChadWinters
@ChadWinters 2 года назад
Reva: Kidnaps and tortures 10 yo girl as her own plan her superiors told her not to do......Disney: What a hero!
@perciusmandate
@perciusmandate 2 года назад
This episode suffered from last season of GoT levels of people just instantly teleporting halfway across the galaxy. Obi-wan is able to escape getting chased by the ISD and have an entire fight with Vader, and yet is still able to make the jump to Tatooine in time to confront Reva. That's not how hyperspace travel works. Also, I know she got stabbed by Vader... But Reva got the snot beat out of her by a couple farmers and then nearly got outran by a ten year old. The villains in Rebels were less cartoonish than that.
@yungsteezy
@yungsteezy 2 года назад
Honestly thinking about watching the clone wars and rebels after this bs
@perciusmandate
@perciusmandate 2 года назад
@@yungsteezy Do it.
@littlearvin1641
@littlearvin1641 2 года назад
I mean those 2 events could be running at different times so there's that.
@Subject_Keter
@Subject_Keter 2 года назад
My brain was turning into pudding from how bad it was, seriously the army is telling Disney to stop munching on Crayons.
@fleisbester612
@fleisbester612 2 года назад
The events weren't synchronous... Simple as that...
@Atlas3060
@Atlas3060 2 года назад
Though I really didn't care about the Reva scene, I did like how Beru and Owen were willing to make their stand. It gives me a new headcanon that in A New Hope, that old couple didn't just die because of nasty evil Stormtroopers while they shook in their pants. Now I just imagine Beru trying to pop Stormtroopers, screaming "Castle Law, bucketheads. Eat this!" before the troopers just realize we need to torch the place to contain her.
@JeffNyman
@JeffNyman 2 года назад
Exactly, I agree. The presumption seems to be that these "farmers" would have no knowledge or ability to defend themselves. But we know Tatooine is full of bandits and raiders. You would be crazy to live in such an environment and not have some means and knowledge to defend yourself.
@DarthMacchio
@DarthMacchio 2 года назад
I agree with your sentiment, however find it hard to believe that they could hold off a Sith but not a group of stormtroopers, knowing what we know about their ineffectiveness throughout the saga.
@firestarter000001
@firestarter000001 2 года назад
Well it make sense they would be ready to self defend... but on other hand it was height of stupidity to stay and defend. Owen saw Reeva before, knew abit what she could do. And he was right the only logical thing was to get Luke and hide in the desert, contact Obi Wan. What they did was heroic and utterly stupid.
@JeffNyman
@JeffNyman 2 года назад
@@firestarter000001 Yeah, that's a fair point. Although often what is heroic is truly utterly stupid from someone's point of view. Think about it this way: if they just hid, they would have no idea when Reva would come back. They would always have an enemy at their back. But if you at least tried -- and succeeded -- to take her out, that would be one less thing to worry about. The bigger writing blunder here is it, once again, put Obi-Wan in a bad spot. He had to trust this woman who now apparently knew the secret of Luke (and maybe Leia). This is a woman that, whatever her past, already proved herself to be a sociopath and was now likely even more emotionally unhinged. But ... he let her go. With the greatest secret he has been entrusted with.
@firestarter000001
@firestarter000001 2 года назад
@@JeffNyman Also true, but imho there should be no way of Ben leaving the planet without leaving a way for Owen to contact him, in case of emergency. So they could just hide in the deserrt until Obiwan returned. Yeah and letting go Reva was also insane. Overall the writing of this show imho is anew low. I cant believe how illogical it was.
@Neverwas_one
@Neverwas_one 2 года назад
Alex thank you for being the sane person that thinks about writing and execution
@Straswa
@Straswa 2 года назад
Alex was right, agreed. Especially so about sequel-baiting.
@EEE-CEE
@EEE-CEE 2 года назад
It’s crazy how the scenes between Obi Wan and Anakin/Vader are the best scenes, MAYBE THATS WHAT THE SERIES SHOULD’VE BEEN ABOUT!?
@JamesSmith-uc8nt
@JamesSmith-uc8nt 2 года назад
When are these people who say "it's for the children" going to realize that the kids who actually grew up watching SW are now adults? We can see through poor writing and it's become tiresome
@bluesrocker91
@bluesrocker91 2 года назад
That answer also implies that it's okay for children's stories to be full of plot holes and nonsensical crap... It's a non-argument, and is essentially an admission that it's shit.
@BasementPepperoni
@BasementPepperoni 2 года назад
For SJW's to admit that they made a mistake or are wrong about anything, is like winning the lottery 100 times in a row. It will NEVER happen.
@ineedwow
@ineedwow 2 года назад
@@bluesrocker91 lol shit? wow youll never be pleased bro, you probably only like the orignal trilogy and of course empire is your favorite movie, all else is trash damn ive been hearing this shit since i was 13 when ep 1 came out
@ineedwow
@ineedwow 2 года назад
@@BasementPepperoni sjw? cause a black character?
@BasementPepperoni
@BasementPepperoni 2 года назад
@@ineedwow If you honestly think that is the reason for people having legitimate criticism about their god awful writing, then you need to put down the kool aid already.
@stephenbanda2908
@stephenbanda2908 2 года назад
Joe's emotional journey throughout this series of reviews was 100x more compelling than this show.
@maxcardif9879
@maxcardif9879 2 года назад
Episode 1- 5/10 Episode 2- 4/10 Episode 3- 5/10 Episode 4 - 3/10 Episode 5 - 6/10 Episode 6 - 6/10 People need to learn that 6/10 doesn't mean bad. Its above most things. No episode is good enough to be in the top 30% for literally any resonable metric.
@JohnnyZenith
@JohnnyZenith 2 года назад
What nonsense.
@maxcardif9879
@maxcardif9879 2 года назад
@@JohnnyZenith elaborate (you wont lmao)
@drlee2
@drlee2 2 года назад
I can't believe the day has finally arrived where Angry Joe is actually calling out a legitimately awful show for being bad and underwhelming, while the RLM crew is giving the trash series a positive review. Bizarro World.
@badmunny
@badmunny 2 года назад
Can't really blame RLM because they're suffering from PTSD from watching Star Trek: Picard
@Youcannotfalter
@Youcannotfalter 2 года назад
Mike especially, rich has never been a star wars fan. Jay didnt like it.
@Providence..
@Providence.. 2 года назад
Was it really positive? From what I remember it sounded like Rich and Jay didn't like it/didn't care and Mike just thought it was ok. Didn't sound really positive to me, but not super negative either.
@Chris47629
@Chris47629 2 года назад
They have a right to their opinions
@theveteransergeant
@theveteransergeant 2 года назад
RLM didn't really give it a "positive" review. They basically just admitted that they don't care about Star Wars anymore, and if you don't care about any of the details, it's fine.
@SleepyMook
@SleepyMook 2 года назад
The show really feels like it was supposed to be a movie but was stretched out to try to make a mini series.
@andothersuchnonsense2685
@andothersuchnonsense2685 2 года назад
Disney+ does their shows in a non-traditional way. Usually every episode of a show, even if the story is serialized, has its own self-contained structure. Three acts. Disney shows largely feel like they're literally written as a movie and then chopped into pieces, so the episodes themselves can feel feast or famine. On a technically level they simply don't make their shows well because of this. Wandavision and Mado are done differently and, shockingly, they're the most well received of the D+ shows.
@my_name_is_desh727
@my_name_is_desh727 2 года назад
I'm sorry but as a movie this would have been worse
@rhymenoceros3303
@rhymenoceros3303 2 года назад
That’s because it was supposed to be a movie but then Solo bombed so they canceled it, remember.
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 2 года назад
@@my_name_is_desh727 💯💯
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 2 года назад
Movie or show, the result would still be the same
@Paool
@Paool 2 года назад
"Why don't they launch fighters to go after the other ship?" "So the episode can happen." "Oh right..."
@Patrick-sheen
@Patrick-sheen 2 года назад
Someone is going to edit this series down to an hour of something amazing. Just Vader and Obi Wan essentially and none of the rest of the absolute muck that they used to fill screen time.
@Tribal_Sky75
@Tribal_Sky75 2 года назад
Yeah I think this would of been better if it was a movie
@SeaGLGaming
@SeaGLGaming 2 года назад
I feel like this show really should have been a movie, and it was supposed to be as well. You could see where the writers showed their love and attention through the show, and the rest is filled with, well, filler. Episodes 1, 2, 5, and 6 are a complete story, and if you remove the filler from those, you have a solid 2 hour movie full of love and passion. It just feels like Disney really wanted to have a 20th Marvel/Star Wars show debut on Disney+, and the writers last minute were forced to string out the story as thin as they could to give a episodic storyline. HappyDude in the comments joked about how they wrote the story as they filmed, and with it having to be stretched out last minute to be a TV show, that's probably exactly what happened. That's where you have the filler episode with the Leia rescue, and the filler of Leia repairing a door, and the filler of yet another slow chase scene in space. Here's the actual original story that isn't stretched out with last minute filler: Obi-Wan rescues Leia, to escape the planet, they run into the Path with Tala. Tala, using her cover, gets them past security and out of the city. Reva then "kills" the Grand Inquisitor. Tala then investigates and discovers Tala helped them escape and finds out where they were heading putting her on good side with Vader. Reva then tracks them down and traps them. Obi-Wan buys them time to escape right before Vader shows. The Path escape with Leia while Obi-Wan escapes in his own ship, but not before Tala is killed. With her sacrifice, Obi-Wan realizes that people still believe and are willing to sacrifice themselves for the Jedi and that it's up to him to make her sacrifice worthy. Reva then challenges Vader and gets wrecked. Vader then gets in his own ship and chases Obi-Wan allowing The Path to escape. Meanwhile, Reva realizes about Owen and Luke and goes to Tatooine. Obi-Wan the lands to confront Vader. Afterwards, he senses Luke is in trouble and makes his way to them for all that to play out. Boom, a 2 hour and 20 minute movie focusing on Obi-Wan with Reva's character given better pacing due to her single movie arc not being stretched out for 4 episodes. All the tension from the Reva side story in this finale was less because I actually thought Luke was in danger and 99% because I felt Canon was in danger. There's literally no reason why these had to be happening simultaneously. They could have shown Reva landing on Tatooine and Owen preparing to defend at the beginning, and then cut back to Obi-Wan with the third slowest chase scene of all time, see the Obi-Wan vs Vader all the way through, and then cut to Obi-Wan making his way there as Reva approaches the farm. But nah.
@happytrailsgaming
@happytrailsgaming 2 года назад
Why even include reva though?? Her and the rest of them were so dumb...
@ironwolf56
@ironwolf56 2 года назад
I'm glad you mentioned it was supposed to be. I feel like I'm one of the only people that remembers the Disney road map before TLJ and Solo derailed the plans and there was supposed to be an Obi-Wan movie.
@bun223
@bun223 2 года назад
I say, if you love something, you devote more time to it. No matter who is breathing down your back.
@Hunter-lm6to
@Hunter-lm6to 2 года назад
I burst out laughing when Obi-Wan started pelting Darth Vader with rocks like a school bully
@Arkkis3014
@Arkkis3014 2 года назад
yeah but the 200 rocks were just bouncing off him like Styrofoam without even making him move or flinch.😂
@JavTheJoker
@JavTheJoker 2 года назад
That definitely did not fit, the effects looked off as well. Besides, only the emporer could possibly have that type of strength with the force.
@jrc-kb3ug
@jrc-kb3ug 2 года назад
Omg thank you, me too! And it wasn’t in a good way! I shouldn’t be laughing during this fight, it was so f**king stupid. I laughed so hard when he pelts that final boulder and Vader just tumbled over. So comical 😂
@ppsarrakis
@ppsarrakis 2 года назад
i was laughting but i still loved it,you could tell their idea was to make the fight as "realistic" as possible for force users fighting.
@Hunter-lm6to
@Hunter-lm6to 2 года назад
@@jrc-kb3ug exactly. Darth Vader, the most notable bad guy in the entire Star Wars universe, is cowering like a child as he gets rocks thrown at him. What a joke
@ExcaliberHD
@ExcaliberHD 2 года назад
I love how at the end of the episode Reva just shows back up at the skywalker ranch with Luke’s unconscious body, drops him on the ground and Owen and Beru just casually walk up to her and pick up Luke like she didn’t just try and murder all of them and knock Luke unconscious.
@NuclearNarwhalSquad
@NuclearNarwhalSquad 2 года назад
The plot bends over backwards to keep her alive and everyone in the room from clobbering her
@johnw8578
@johnw8578 2 года назад
But she is good now! ;)
@AB-zl4nh
@AB-zl4nh 2 года назад
The hate you give Reva is over the top or you do not give enough hate to Vader. He literally waited until he's own son was about to die until he decided to kill the Emperor. She refused to kill a person she didn't even like who is the son of the person who she hates to death. If Vader is redeemed, she is. Personally I don't think either are.
@ppsarrakis
@ppsarrakis 2 года назад
@@AB-zl4nh well true but Luke was like what 20+ years old there? and not 9? do you think Owens reaction was normal of Reeva acting like that?
@galahadkoa1
@galahadkoa1 2 года назад
What were they really supposed to do? They have no hope of killing Reva.
@keithgriffin5949
@keithgriffin5949 2 года назад
Alex is the voice of reason in all of this. Nails the entire series correctly.
@guyincognito5663
@guyincognito5663 2 года назад
It’s weird you say “correctly” as if it’s objective but… uh… I agree :)
@keithgriffin5949
@keithgriffin5949 2 года назад
@@guyincognito5663 Yea I could have worded that better :)
@gristlyknave831
@gristlyknave831 2 года назад
There are a lot of characters in the Disney continuity that start out on the wrong side then end up switching to help the heroes. In Rebels we got Agent Kallus, Boba Fett seems to be more of a good guy now. In the Disney trilogy we have Fin along with a few others that left the first order Then you get General Hux switch as well and now we have Reva Also in Battlefront 2 the main character or characters (can't remember how many) join the rebels though I won't count this one to much as it's a video game. I don't mind a villain changing sides to much but they seem to have someone switch sides in every star wars project they do it gets a bit annoying
@unclesteveAMP
@unclesteveAMP 2 года назад
The inquisitor in Fallen Order also helps and sacrifices herself. What a tired out story beat, it’s almost like that’s all they can think of.
@Starkiller12481
@Starkiller12481 2 года назад
Glad you pointed this out its a cop out now Disney also does it very terribly. Starwars Battlefront honestly had the best writing, i say fire the Boba Fett and Obi Wan writers/directors and bring that team on 😂
@brrruhdon__718
@brrruhdon__718 2 года назад
Bf2 is goated it does count lil bro
@nicolasvelosa8420
@nicolasvelosa8420 2 года назад
@@brrruhdon__718 bf2 story was ass though
@brrruhdon__718
@brrruhdon__718 2 года назад
@@nicolasvelosa8420 💯 yee u right g but the comeback they made makes up for it
@twistednipz7182
@twistednipz7182 2 года назад
Qui gon- “Took you long enough” Obi Wan- “Im sorry master, I had to wait 10 years for a virgin to light a candle”
@brianbell8382
@brianbell8382 2 года назад
Nice Hocus Pocus reference. 👍
@spbynum
@spbynum 2 года назад
It’s all icing and no cake. They just wanted to hit the feelings without developing substance. Never mind that Ben is now complicit in all the murder Vader commits from here on by letting him live. Never mind the star destroyer that could have still sent fighters after the transport ship when Vader decided to go after Ben. Never mind that Reva should be dead but not only isn’t, she just instantly flies to Tatooine on some invisible ship no one noticed (this is a mess of a character with very erratic and unclear motives at this point). Never mind that the Empire doesn’t invade Alderaan to capture Bail and Leia because they now know they’re traitors. Never mind that right after Luke was almost killed, Ben decides to leave again for reasons. The list goes on and on for this episode alone. The writing is such a mess. It’s next level awful. There’s just so many things that make everything unravel so quickly. There were cool moments obviously, but it shouldn’t be required to turn your brain off to enjoy them. It’s an absolute travesty to see.
@gametroller1
@gametroller1 2 года назад
Cry
@chacecrowell
@chacecrowell 2 года назад
it's not the Jedi way - I'd say episode 3 kinda killed justifying that route when Obi-wan is supposed to be the pinnacle of good
@lopeshick9607
@lopeshick9607 2 года назад
@@gametroller1 I didn’t cry but some scenes made me laugh pretty hard lol.
@spbynum
@spbynum 2 года назад
@@chacecrowell “What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”
@maxcardif9879
@maxcardif9879 2 года назад
@@gametroller1 no we are laughing
@marcgw496
@marcgw496 2 года назад
Out of all the new seasons of shows that are coming out around this time, I was most excited for Obi wan. I loved seeing Ewan and Hayden come back but this show was a bit of a letdown for sure due to poor writing and planning
@Sperminski
@Sperminski 2 года назад
A bit lol?
@westheking12
@westheking12 2 года назад
like disney star wars has been in general
@BK-uy9nj
@BK-uy9nj 2 года назад
Most of us never wanted an fucking obi wan show. Damn you noobs for prepping disney for this shit, obi wan nor han solo should have ever had their own show or movie. Picard made the same mistake trying to profit off our nostalgia alone. Mando was at least highly original
@omma911
@omma911 2 года назад
Show was a complete trainwreck.
@solid5502
@solid5502 2 года назад
I liked the episode and the dual but it wasn't the 'Rematch of the Century' like Kathleen Kennedy said it was.
@JustAboutTime
@JustAboutTime 2 года назад
Star Destroyer shoots at ship doing ‘evasive maneuvers’ and all I can hear is: “Left, LEFT!! .. He’s listing lazily to the left!! GO LEFT .. Damn, this guy really knows his evasive maneuvers!”
@TheWorldMemeDatabase
@TheWorldMemeDatabase 2 года назад
Luke _does_ remember Ben, though. At the very least, he knows _of_ him in A New Hope, which takes place 10 years after this show concludes. "I wonder if he means old Ben Kenobi?" I always got the impression that Luke was aware of Ben, even if they hadn't met - and there's nothing to say they didn't. Tatooine is a big place, but a small town. I get the sense everybody knows everybody.
@thatperformer3879
@thatperformer3879 2 года назад
Doesn't excuse the awful Luke not seeing a lightsaber ever plothole though
@TheWorldMemeDatabase
@TheWorldMemeDatabase 2 года назад
@@thatperformer3879 No, I wouldn't say it does. Suspension of disbelief has to be pretty loose for that one to work. Leia's impersonal message to him in ANH bugs me the worst. They're clearly super close at the end of this, but she sends a message relaying Bail's request for aid, acting like she's never even met the guy. The whole "keep our relationship secret" thing is a pretty poor attempt to make this work, and it fails pretty hard IMO.
@colonelwest5443
@colonelwest5443 2 года назад
Yeah it’s implied that Luke had met Ben at some point, Luke recognizes him right away after Ben saves him from the Sand People.
@phoenixrising7777
@phoenixrising7777 2 года назад
They nostalgia bombed the audience at the end out of desperation, not out of appreciation.
@gametroller1
@gametroller1 2 года назад
So they knew people were going to be negative in the beginning. Some serious prediction there
@phoenixrising7777
@phoenixrising7777 2 года назад
@@gametroller1 what I meant is they knew the show was poorly written and wanted to try and hide that with nostalgia so you come out of the season/series thinking it’s better than it is. They are exploiting the recency effect.
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 2 года назад
PANDERING TO NOSTALGIA IS TIGHT
@Tadicuslegion78
@Tadicuslegion78 2 года назад
This episode made me angry because it made the previous 5 even worse with the finale showing someone had brains in the writers room and could have written a good Obi Wan story this entire time! At least I’m happy Hayden Christiansen finally got some love from fans after being shat on for 20 years
@Wingzero90939
@Wingzero90939 2 года назад
Agreed I’m so happy for Hayden… I really wanted more of him to be in the series. Take all the screen time that was given to Reva And give it to Hayden I would’ve been happy with that and more attack of the clones flashbacks.
@DarthMacchio
@DarthMacchio 2 года назад
I was bothered by the fact that Obi Wan had next to nothing to say during the duel. These lazy writers didn’t even try. Where was the exchange? Where was the acting? Where was the story? It was like Ewan was on stunt duty for those scenes. You’re staring down the man responsible for everything wrong in the galaxy, a man who was your closest friend for 15 or 20 years. One of you is about to die. And you can’t think of a damn thing to say?
@darthvader8094
@darthvader8094 2 года назад
The lightsaber duel was really damn cool, I thought. Definitely need to keep Hayden as Vader, he's nailing it
@thee_morpheus
@thee_morpheus 2 года назад
This show should've focused on Obi Wan and Anakin SPECIFICALLY. Reva was pointless and unnecessary, she really brought the quality of the show down.
@gametroller1
@gametroller1 2 года назад
She didn’t
@SoLoboo
@SoLoboo 2 года назад
@@gametroller1 She absolutely did.
@SoLoboo
@SoLoboo 2 года назад
@@gametroller1 She absolutely did.
@JohnnyZenith
@JohnnyZenith 2 года назад
I love how the Guardian, a UK newspaper just said there needs to be less Obi-Wan in series 2 and more Reva. Damn fools.
@skitch_____
@skitch_____ 2 года назад
Alex said it best “I don’t want to think about this show when I watch the original” and I will watch the originals over and over. This not so much
@aesir1ases64
@aesir1ases64 2 года назад
This show I will prob rewatch some scenes (those that involved Ewan and Heyden because boy they did delivered), but the show I will rarely see again. Meanwhile the prequel trilogy and original trilogy I rewatch it yearly. The sequels I simply pretend it never happened lol
@PatrickWDunne
@PatrickWDunne 2 года назад
"The scene with Vader and Kenobi was so cool.... NOW BACK TO THIS ABOMINATION OF A SIDE PLOT" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@brian6898
@brian6898 2 года назад
Alex just consistently speaks my thoughts in every review.
@arbiter8246
@arbiter8246 2 года назад
Join him and he will complEte your training.
@omma911
@omma911 2 года назад
Yeah, much better than Joe.
@phantomsiege5097
@phantomsiege5097 2 года назад
Angry Joe about to rant on Disney Star Wars Me: This is where the fun begins.
@cliffchai3742
@cliffchai3742 2 года назад
That's... why I'm here
@LukeHimself
@LukeHimself 2 года назад
Vader actually did a backspin, he exposed his back, when I've never seen Vader do anything like that, in his suit.. To me, this acts as the bridge, Vader's transformation from "fast acrobatic Anakin style fighting" to the "slow cumbersome heavy Vader style fighting".. If this isn't what they were implying, then it was by accident lol I'm pointing out a positive, here! :P
@Edax_Royeaux
@Edax_Royeaux 2 года назад
Return of the Jedi, Luke kicks Vader and he backspins down the stairs.
@LukeHimself
@LukeHimself 2 года назад
@@Edax_Royeaux that was a backflip from Luke kicking him (using the force, clearly), and Vader using the force to regain his stance. Not the same thing as exposing your back with a backspin, when exchanging blows face to face.. Exposing your back is always discouraged in martial arts.
@papercitadel4221
@papercitadel4221 2 года назад
@@LukeHimself but if you have the force you know whats happening behind you even if you cant see it . you could deflect blaster bolts backwards blindfolded and with earmuffs if your strong enough. Real life martial arts are not a 1:1 comparison to starwars lightsaber dueling . force users fighting has alot of like overpowering their force aura with your own . or striking when their resolve shakes barely and you can feel it in your mind and you force push them
@neildeeley4177
@neildeeley4177 2 года назад
@@papercitadel4221 no, stop reaching
@lobsterminion693
@lobsterminion693 2 года назад
@@papercitadel4221 Your arms don't reach behind your back. Turning your back to the enemy basically neuters your ability to attack, block, and counter.
@Fuzzycat16
@Fuzzycat16 2 года назад
"It's because they are rushing!" No..NO JOE. The writting has been abysmal since the first episode.
@rayk.5979
@rayk.5979 2 года назад
"Now I regret giving it such high marks in the beginning". As you should, man. You went soft as fuck on this show for some reason. Obviously I'm a fan of your whole production, but I find myself in agreement with Alex most of the time instead of Joe. He seems to hold shows to actual standards.
@StripedJacket
@StripedJacket 2 года назад
This is actually why I kinda love it, Alex will always give a standard review where as joe will give us what he feels. The differing perspectives are fun for me personally. It’s like a critic and an audience review lol
@Subject_Keter
@Subject_Keter 2 года назад
@@StripedJacket only bad thing is most people are like "Alex is a boomer and me no like" they only like AJ
@quintonbackhand2519
@quintonbackhand2519 2 года назад
@@Subject_Keter how sad those people must be.
@StripedJacket
@StripedJacket 2 года назад
@@Subject_Keter I love Alex lol and it seems most people like him when it comes to the game reviews. I recall when he first joined people complaining or wondering who or what he’d be like though
@cliffchai3742
@cliffchai3742 2 года назад
@@Subject_Keter yeah, it boggles my mind that they are some people who comment on a video just to say "lemme guess, Alex hated it like he hates everything else" as if he does so for no reason whatsoever
@ser_ryon_vine6392
@ser_ryon_vine6392 2 года назад
Great visuals, terrible dialogue. I feel like they just ripped off that rebels episode when Ashoka cut off Vader’s mask.
@christopherazzato7680
@christopherazzato7680 2 года назад
I agree
@bumblebee1300
@bumblebee1300 2 года назад
And from force unleashed and from the darkhorse novel
@kingwein89
@kingwein89 2 года назад
But that's true to prequel form. Great visuals, great story, terrible execution (ESPECIALLY dialogue). That's probably why so many people like this unfortunately
@Eccel9000
@Eccel9000 2 года назад
Honestly even the visuals look cheap and lacklustre. And that shaky cam is godawful
@adrian_digital
@adrian_digital 2 года назад
So lazy & unimaginative but nostalgia junkies fall for it every time
@Freddusya
@Freddusya 2 года назад
This series is like as if when building a house, instead of saying you want a house, you told the developer, you want a window + door + roof + rooms + basement ... Yes the developer gave you what you wanted, but none of the things are where they meant to be. We got: - lightsaber duel - space ships chasing - qui gonn jin - leia arc where she go from immatured to understand her role in the political world - obi-wan arc from giving up to being ready - reva villain to teach u about a lesson about revenge - another lovable bot called lola Like if i had a checklist board, i would have all the tasks ticked but none of the things makes sense together.
@Godan_Void
@Godan_Void 2 года назад
😂 You nailed it what Star Wars has been these last years in Disney's possession
@Logic105
@Logic105 2 года назад
You forgot women empowerment, cultural diversity, and inclusivity.
@Itsjimmay
@Itsjimmay 2 года назад
@@Logic105 yes because the wamens of star wars only existed in the Disney sequels. Padme, not a thing. The lady in the archive room, a hologram.
@xposhboyx
@xposhboyx 2 года назад
The escaping ship is maneuvering like crazy to avoid the laser blasts, but inside the ship there's like near zero turbulence going on the passengers are just chilling
@detBits
@detBits 2 года назад
Not to mention the destroyer firing hundreds of shots and 99% missing.. what's a targeting system?
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