Observant and Automated: The Sutherland Class 

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Which time?.. m5? Texas class incident? Picard season 3 incident?? Starfleet may have the shortest memory of any organization in science fiction. And the writers certainly do.

The Texas Incident was an inside job!

​@@mikenapier3598 Did I forget to mention, Romulan war telecapture weapon?

Complete automation has never gone well for Starfleet... Partial automation, with holograms has apparently worked out okay but give that concept to Secret Hideout and you can bet all the Holograms would be hacked and turned against the Federation.

Thomas, Tumorboy, and co. is the lifeblood of Star Trek going forward. May they all live long and prosper.

I wished the Nebula was the hero ship in TNG over the trashy looking galaxy class.

I find it amusing that hardly anyone remembers that the ship that Data captained was the Lydia Sutherland. I believe that was a nod to the ships captained by Horatio Hornblower; the Lydia was a frigate and the Sutherland was a ship of the line. If you want a good movie then check out Captain Hornblower starring Gregory Peck.

ROMMIE: and i took that personally: launches nova bomb into your sun.

I'm thinking maybe like... An AWACS ship?

@@aiosquadron That's what I thought.

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every other speies in trek seems to be honest with what their ships do. with the federation we sneeky humnas are always calling it an "ADVANCED TACTICAL EXPLORATION CRUISER" anybody else would just call it a Battleship with significant spying capability and optional AWACS.

the anti bog fleet was a panic reaction to an existential threat starfleet had NOTHING to deal with it. and the borg buster fleet was over specialized with most of the ships beig fit into a various specific role and intended to work together to bring down a borg cube. these advanced TNG designs are much more versatile while still retaining the lessons learned in the most brutal way from the borg and then dominion.

Lord knows it's better than anything Paramount could think of (32nd century design ships notwithstanding)!

until some guy named Baltar ruined it all just because he wanted some Sixussy.

If so that's very, very interesting! That would essentially mean that the Sutherland and Andromeda-classes have MORE crew than the Galaxy at peak efficiency, even with all the modern 25th century automation!

I think they give ships a "workhorse" feel - not fancy or elegant, but well built for the less exciting long haul research missions out in space.

Or a hatchback sub-class.

@@jmferr2011 I like thinking of them as 'hatchbacks.' Miranda for Constitution, Nebula for Galaxy, Luna for Sovereign, and so on.

One for one... they are a sub-version.

I think raised nacelles like on the galaxy look energetic and confident. The lowered ones may look submissive or defensive, like the ship is protecting them below its body. That might be why you get that impression?

Exactly, Keith. The Nebula/Sutherland is to the Galaxy/Andromeda as the Miranda is to the Constitution! :D

Thank you, I make them myself on Photoshop and want to see about getting some animated versions too if I can figure it out. :)

@@CertifiablyIngame I spend a lot of my free time building starships in minecraft, and recently joined the trekcraft team. Your videos have been the ones playing in the background and keeping me inspired, making the star trek universe feel very complex and interesting. Thank you!

Get yourself the Cygnus or the World Razer and dress her up in the Andromeda hull. Can't go wrong! All the tactical power with all of the beauty.

Are you being sarcastic? There has never been a ship in history that has ever had anything close to what you're talking about unless you're talking about a damn cruise ship. You do not build camaraderie I'm on your crew by keeping them isolated.

Given this is Starfleet I think they instead would translate to the same nuber of crew just spread over more ships.

You also had designers & a Fleet that dealt with massive losses fighting the Borg, Dominion, and others and for a time needed to not only make do with less crew (as replacements were trained), but also needed to replace a lot of ships. Of course, nothing could *ever* go wrong with automating ships and tying them all into a central comm network...

They should hire you

I read that they were probably warp coils for saucer separation warp flight, like the Ross Class, but could not find another source to verify that. Certainly the in-game version cannot saucer separate at all.

​@@CertifiablyIngameI would love saucer sep for my monitor 😅

@@CertifiablyIngame I've read that those're actually extremely sensitive sensor arrays such as the ones found on the neck of the Andromeda and the neck holding the mission pod. They're called "Multidifferential-multispectral (MDMS) Passive Sensor Vanes". Really neat stuff!

Demorecord software. :) It's built into STO.

Hit the nail on the head with all the right questions. The Federation is essentially an idyllic Communist galaxy spanning centralised government with the most technologically advanced and militarily powerful vessels in all four quadrants. Their naval force, the almighty Starfleet, masks just how dangerous their ships and weaponry really are under the baseline sincere veneer of being "diplomats, explorers and scientists", which many of the crew and even the captains in fact are. Starfleet just tends to use flowery, non-threatening words to describe their planet-glassing warships as "escorts" and "cruisers" while their AWACS spy ships are "long range science vessels". :) The Terran Empire is what you get when Starfleet decides not to play nice anymore. The entire galaxy conquered within only a few short centuries. All opposing galactic forces outgunned, outmanned, and outsmarted. The Terran naval force is even called "The Terran Starfleet", something not a lot of people seem to be aware. TNG/DS9 is the perfect example of what happens in the Prime Universe when Starfleet has had enough: Captain Benjamin Maxwell tearing through the Cardassian border with his Nebula-class "science vessel" the U.S.S. Phoenix while effortlessly blasting through Cardassian Galor-class warships(which were built for nothing but intense, prolonged warfare) without a scratch on her. Benjamin Sisko rendering an entire planet uninhabitable through chemical warfare just to lure a Maquis traitor he had a personal vendetta on. Sisko conspiring with a known Obsidian Order elite assassin that ended in the death of an influential Romulan senator. Section 31/Starfleet Intelligence almost causing a genocide of untold proportions to prevent a war that would leave trillions dead if not for a Khan Noonien Singh level intelligence in Dr. Bashir. It's this deep lore that makes Star Trek one of the best, if not the best sci-fi series of all time.

You see this in IRL. A good example is Helena class light cruiser and the Cleveland Class light cruiser.

That's what I'd like to know. 45 decks is HUGE. There's probably living accommodations found within the torpedo and sensor pods then as those things are as big as light cruiser.

Don't forget the Andromeda-class! If you love the Sutherland you'll fall head over heels for the Andromeda.

Must be named after Miranda in Mass Effect 2.

That is because of the lack of Explodium in the 23rd century. When it was found that Starfleet could not replicate this rare element they were forced to build other ship classes that would not blow up when the enemy merely looked at them sternly. 😁

Because they count as part of the crew compliment. So you just answered your own question.

Yes it's designed as that. With extras if needed.

Because probably they're still trying to figure it out.

Mine would be the USS SHUTUP WESLEY

Going back to the original series you had folks out there that didn't take kindly to people intruding on their territory and sometimes they shot first and asked questions later. Remember the Romulans for one example. If I'm going out there in the unknown I'm going to have peaceful intentions and so is my crew but I'll be damned if I'm going to go out there unarmed. Because there are people out there that aren't nearly as polite as I might be or you for that matter.

You still have a crew on board. All you've done is increase automation to a certain extent...... Which is to be expected considering this is a 24th century vessel.