You have to climb a mountain. You're given $2000 and a set of BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A K02 off-road tires. You buy an E30. Can it make it? Sponsored Content
+Zac Price depends on who you ask. most 88s have diving boards but the rear apron was changed, so the plastic bumpers will fit. you can put late model FRONT bumpers on any e30. but 89 and up they will all be plastic.
The only reason this video exists was because BFGoodrich approached them about it, why are you people complaining? I don't mind them promoting the tire, if it means more content, and being introduced to something that looks like a pretty neat tire I probably wouldn't have heard of otherwise. To those complaining, grow up and realize the nature of the business, and don't get your panties twisted about product placement. Who cares? Even if they didn't get sponsored to do this, they would still bring up what tire they're using, so doesn't that amount to the same thing anyways? Either way, good video, bit short if I'm honest, but enjoyable, and interesting to see Mike out of his comfort zone of V8's and leaf springs. Keep it up guys, maybe one day people will stop whining about free content. Beats watching anything on TV/cable these days anyway.
+enigmaPL well drive has the right to do video like this, but we have the right to complain about it.. so grow up and realize the nature of youtube comment section
Best car BMW ever made. mine was my first car, and I still have it. I've been on camping trips on some pretty gnarly roads, 4 people deep in my car, water, rocks etc, on lowered springs even. These things are basically bulletproof lol
After owning 3 e30, 1 325is and 2 318is, I hate to sound like a fan boy but it is still one of my favorite cars I've owned and driven. Still miss it and will buy another one again!
hold on a second.... This is an e30. You spend the entire video deriding the car and praising the tires... Why would you choose a a vehicle known for its legendary GO GO GO capacity, and try to play it off as the tires are what did the work? I believe that 31 years of reputation outshines whatever tires you might put on this legendary vehicle....
+vanox Meures that spec e30 was not ment for that terrain alright however the 325ix 4wd was maybe that's what they should of used either way im not surprised the car made it! ive been running a 325i 2 door for 3 years now and the only issue i have had worth mentioning is an alternator died on me other than that its just been general maintanence and its drove every day and hard for that matter! there the ideal car for a learning mechanic as there very easy work on!
+vanox Meures I pretty much learned to drive doing almost exactly this in the Arizona desert 30 years ago and on street tires. I never got so much a scratch on the car. The E30 has amazing ground clearance and suspension compliance for a sports sedan.
+vanox Meures You'd be surprised what a car can do with an experienced (or at least an uninhibited) driver. I often go off road with my sedans. Its just a matter of tire placement and knowing your ground clearance. I once had a 2004 Malibu (baseline) that I took out in the desert and drug the chassis through mud all the time. I put almost 250K miles on it before I sold it. Other than some obvious suspension issues, it ran like a champ. Now, I have a 2013 Versa that I take off road every once in a while and it's much more forgiving with its Traction Control and Stability Control. The Malibu didn't have any of that.
As a fan of Musto's work, I have to disagree with him on the E30. Of course, you can build a very fast muscle car and older classics have tons of character but the E30 isn't soul-less. It's more sober than, say, a 1970 Cuda but especially considering what was being made at the time it's quite a cheerful little car that's fun to throw around and hard to break. Being a muscle car guy in Europe I've had a hard time finding a classic car I can own and daily drive - I tried an E30 out of curiosity and I had to buy one. It's nimble, cheap, easy to repair and for a small euro sedan it looks quite good.
I had an 86 325e and absolutely loved it. that 2.7 might not be great up top, but it had plenty of torque down below to really put my LSD to work. E30's are amazing cars, they were built so well, and they can handle so much abuse and neglect. I bought mine with 250,000 miles used for $2500. Had ALL the service history with it, the original owners manual was stamped completely full by bmw shops, a huge folder of receipts and whatnot. All of it was routine maintenance, a radiator and a water pump. That was it. The engine was never disassembled on that car. I ended up selling it at 310,000 miles for $2500. Still purred like a kitten. Plus, what other car in 1986 locked the ignition with a 4-digit pin code FROM THE FACTORY???
I had one of the more popular chips in mine. forgot what one but the forums loved it. gave me a little boost in hp and changed the tuning so I had to run 91 octane minimum. I liked it. I never got good mpg I was always having too much fun. My current car (g35) says I'm getting like 16mpg lol. Manuals are too much fun.
Dear Mike, i don't get the point of making a video about a car you don't like, reviewing it way out of it's confort zone, then call it "crappy import"... I bet my right hand that none of your american sedan of the same periode would have done half of this. Away from the fact that this video is an ad and nothing else, i think you've prooved that you don't know much when it comes to something else than roof chopped rusty V8 pieces of shit (sorry for this). There is no smoke without a fire... E30's are beloved by an immense amount of people because they are GOOD and any car guy that knows what he talks about would say it. For the record: i don't own an e30, i'm just a car guy. And had appreciated all your other videos ;)
Not a fan of e30 at all but to say it's a bad car, is ignorant as hell. Round the track it'll be much better then 95% of any american car on this damn show.
Why would Mike do that when his main aim was to sell those tyres and slag off the E30. Not sure what his personal issues are with the E30 but they certainly aren't professional. E30s deserve a lot of respect for many reasons that this Mike guy will never understand. Poor guy!
One of the most surprising off road vehicles I have owned was a 1983 Honda Accord Hatchback. I have owned Jeeps and trucks, but that little car would go wherever you pointed it. Something about its size and front wheel drive + it had decent ground clearance.
I agree that the E30 is too popular right now and its driving the market apeshit. Its underpowered by todays standards. But thats not what its about. The E30 is a great foundation to build a project. Classic looks, a communicative driving experience. They are good for turbo drift projects, good for v8 swaps and drag racing, nimble for auto x, sturdy and light for rally :) Working on a bad ass E36 stroker build right now. Next up will probably be a 70s bmw 2002 turbo replica with a built n54. Should be good for some 10 second passes at the 1/4.
The BMW e30 may be a bit under-powered by modern standards, but it has a significant pedigree (including rally racing) and large and enthusiastic fan base. If you knew anything about the car and its history or the potential of the e30 chassis, you would stop ragging on it and give some respect. You found a shitty example of an e30 that had been poorly maintained, put your sponsor's tires on it and thrashed on it. In the end, the car survived your mistreatment and did things beyond what it should have been able to do at such mileage. Hey Drive, DON'T BE SUCH IDIOTS!
Yeah, this isn't going to piss people off... Slagging off the E30, and giving the sponsored tires all the credit. I don't care if this didn't exist without the sponsorship because it's a bad video. /DRIVE should learn a thing or two from Roadkill. They wouldn't have thrown a classic great car under the bus because of a sponsorship.
This guys arrogance and dislike of the e30 honestly disgusts me. Man travels an entire desert and enjoys his time doing it and says its because of the tires because the car itself did nothing. All tires. Jesus....
I need tyres for my old truck. I like the way these look. may go for these if they aren't too expensive. I need something about 37in but no smalled than 35in. not a bad video for a commercial. hope you guys get more sponsors.
this is interesting with the E30 doing the whole off road thing. I like it. But you guys could have been a little more subtle with the whole BF ad thing. The vid is a blatant ad for BF.
Question is, how loud are they on the asphalt? Gotta drive roads to get to the feeder roads. I spend most time on paved surfaces- but hate the whine of off road tires. How they do there? Small and subjectively insignificant point, but I would like to know before putting new meats all the way around on the F150.
All terrains are often better than mud tires so i wouldn't be surprised if they were quiet enough, that being said only street tires will be truly quiet
+Hiway I have the KO2's on my Toyota (11/10 would recommend), and there IS some road noise but chances are wind, radio, or engine noise will drown it out. I can't hear them unless I'm doing under 30 with the windows down and radio off, and even then it's barely there.
Hey, I don't mind the product placement, I just wish it had been obvious in the beginning that this video is pretty much an ad for BFG. Even if it is basically an ad, it's the best tire ad I've ever seen. ;)
I didn't miss any of those things, however, a nice [SPONSORED CONTENT] in the title is what many other channels do (or some variant thereof) and is what should be done in the name of full disclosure.
I would take front-wheel drive before rear-wheel drive if I was in a 4x4. Also, if you don't have the money for nice new BFGs, snow tires can work well too. My friend made it up a road like this no problem in a '91 Corolla wagon with snow tires. Cool to see an E30 do this though.
the BFG KO2 is a damn good tire. i've had them on my 2011 F150 since they were first released and they've been nothing but awesome. i've heard some not so great things about the KO's from a few guys i know that had them. they're ok when new but after they've worn down a bit they get damn sketchy in the rain.
im sorry youre not an e30 fan but that doesnt justify you for being uneducated around one of the most iconic and reliable cars of all times.....and yes it was nice you made it but how much money did bf goodrich give you to promote their tires?enough i believe...also you could have been more objective and say that the e 30 is a balanced car,super reliable after 30 years of abuse and still got you out of the rocks....NOT ANY car would have done that...NOT ANY car has the right balance or weight distribution...you made the selection of the e30 which really wasnt left to chance and deep down you know it.....A good comment over the bmw's performance wouldnt hurt...after all its a 30 year old car...
I live in Vegas and I have run the Wheeler Pass trail quite a few times. they took the easy way up from Pahrump on the west side of the mountain. tires had nothing to do with this (I love BFG tires by the way). I have seen bone stock street cars with street tires make it up to the top from the west side. it is a little rough in few spots but careful driving and you will be fine. not hard at all. once you crest the summit and start down the east side toward Cold Creek, that is where it get hairy. I have a 2015 Rubicon Hard Rock (it has BFG Mud Terrain KM2s which is a step up from the AT KO2), and I have had to put the lockers in to make up the east side this last spring after the all the rains. its very rough and I even bottomed out my Rubicon on a few spots. no way they went down the east side. I think they took the easy way and turn around an went out the same way they came in.
Ride height up, get offroad tyres and a lightweright car like this. A welded diff would be nice too and you are good to go for such performance. Btw, why didn't they get a 325ix with all wheel drive ?
e30s rule. Great commercial. Narrator has a similar viewpoint that I once had for this chassis. My views were poisoned by the million yuppies who flaunted their e30s when they were new. My second e30 was a racecar, and now I have 5, one of which is calling for these tires to go with her stock springs and bottlecaps.
hell yes my first car was a 86 325e beater i got for 500 and took it down this dirt road in east county sd (dairy road) a couple times hit a whoop and swear all 4 tire left the ground lol
Throw me a bone Musto, please. You know not any old import is robust enough to take that kind of abuse. That little eta is one of the best built and most robust car of its time. They certainly don't know when to quit. it might not have a V8 or hail from Detroit, but it's the best little balance of fun, reliability, refinement, and comfort. There is a reason we still love these cars unlike a lot of yuppie cars from back in the day. Plus, you simply couldn't have bought an E12 and this because you hate them.
I did something similar with an BMW E36 and really run down Tires. And I bought it for 300 bucks, with over 315.000Km. I was pretty amazed, that the car took this really well.
A couple of years ago, some friends and I were discussing if we should pay the extra price for an offroad capable rental car. I said "every rental car is an offroad car". Then we drove our small rented Renault on roads just as bad as in the video. The car was fine in the end and we saved a lot of money. Didn't even need offroad tires.
This reminded me of my dads Pinto . The first time my dad learned that Ford is coming out with a new car to replace the Falcon and it was called the Pinto he call the ford dealer and and ordered one . Just like Burger King he has to have it his way . It has to plain and simple . When it arrived at the dealer he went to look at it . It was just like the one I seen in most mags in the day . That construction yellow paint and coordinated interior with the 4 speed and the 1.6 l engine . He put traction tires all around and used to poor little car for work and hunting . I seen that car go places where most cars cant go and some light truck just cant go . Ever heard of Rally cars . Well there is a reason why they are called rally car and not trucks .
there is a black droptop with the ugly bumpers up the road for well south of $1000. the interior has had it, the rockers have holes in them and there's 210k on the clock, but it's a 5 speed and runs good + knobbly studded ice climbers = snow drifting switchback runner. it doesn't have to be immaculate, as long as somebody loves it enough to keep it on the road, that is good enough.