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Will It Rally? BMW 3 Series 

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Will It Rally? Ride along as we test the limits of different vehicles on our skidpad and slalom areas, before putting them against the stopwatch on a mountainous rally stage here at Team O'Neil. The BMW 3 Series. A staple in the car community for enthusiast of all sorts of competitive driving backgrounds. This E46 325i should be a fun time, and I think we know the answer already...Will It Rally?
00:00 Intro
01:28 Shakedown
10:02 Timed Run
12:32 Conclusion
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@ChainsawChuck13
@ChainsawChuck13 Год назад
I still can't believe this thing on generic snow tires beat an ADV bike, a pickup truck, and two SUVs, all much newer than it, on the dirt. This video has forever convinced me that changing from normal-size cars to SUVs was one of the worst things that could have ever happened.
@extraordinarilybasic3250
@extraordinarilybasic3250 11 месяцев назад
The Ultimate Driving Machine
@SoybeanAK
@SoybeanAK 9 месяцев назад
Low center of gravity, decent suspension, no unnecessary size meaning reasonable weight... And it just flies.
@tacosalaten3677
@tacosalaten3677 7 месяцев назад
here in scandinavia we use these 3 series a lot in rally. great cars for people getting into rally and dont have a lot of money.
@aaronbryan5095
@aaronbryan5095 7 месяцев назад
The current market trends shows how stupid most people are or has become.
@barnsnoble7066
@barnsnoble7066 7 месяцев назад
A smaller, lighter, sportier vehicle is faster than SUVs and pickup trucks? Whoda thunk?
@dragonbutt
@dragonbutt Год назад
I miss this series. Will it rally is awesome.
@Teamoneilrally
@Teamoneilrally Год назад
Thank you for watching!
@TranceFur
@TranceFur 7 месяцев назад
It’s not gone! They’re still making new “Will It Rally” videos
@dragonbutt
@dragonbutt 7 месяцев назад
@@TranceFur one video every few months though
@WesAKAthemilkman
@WesAKAthemilkman 5 месяцев назад
Will it rally is friggin sick
@WesAKAthemilkman
@WesAKAthemilkman 5 месяцев назад
@@dragonbuttits better than nothing.
@Vlku272
@Vlku272 11 месяцев назад
Low power down low can very easily be the DISA variable manifold geometry. Very common failure on these engines and when mine failed it didn't throw an engine light or anything, just felt a bit dead down low.
@malteserwfj
@malteserwfj 7 месяцев назад
Yeah DISA or most likely VANOS seals
@bidenisgod6978
@bidenisgod6978 7 месяцев назад
​@@malteserwfjvanos seals definitely need to be replaced. Easy and cheap. Wakes m54 up well.
@chrismannik
@chrismannik 11 месяцев назад
I am competing in a rally series with a e46 BMW and I love it. The balance and turning is really nice and it's a really capable car.
@alan-
@alan- Год назад
This time it was a rhetoric question
@konigvonpreuen8065
@konigvonpreuen8065 7 месяцев назад
3.0L M54 with an auto diff ratio swap and a manual ZF trans is such a good basic setup
@cmkm54
@cmkm54 7 месяцев назад
I ran a 99 e46 in grassroots rally, it was relatively competitive.
@Gasoline2009
@Gasoline2009 Год назад
Thanks for this video. Thanks for you back in this team.
@dallasvanwyk
@dallasvanwyk Год назад
E series? Cmon guys. Now I would like to see a Ford E-Series on this segment 😂
@nickbragg480
@nickbragg480 Год назад
Always love watching Wyatt...been to the school and still love watching the content. Thanks guys.
@Teamoneilrally
@Teamoneilrally Год назад
Thank you for watching!
@zairemccarthy8591
@zairemccarthy8591 Год назад
we love ya Wyatt, keep it up
@thenerfherder9586
@thenerfherder9586 Год назад
You should test out an e39 5 series to see if the longer wheelbase and slightly heavier weight make a difference
@aaryeshg.6526
@aaryeshg.6526 Год назад
And an e38 7 series just for good measure
@michiel5160
@michiel5160 5 месяцев назад
Pretty sure it will be quite a bit worse, especially on narrow twisty roads.
@camdvrk0
@camdvrk0 10 месяцев назад
As someone who’s been trying to get their E46 to a rally spec it would be amazing to see what modifications have been done by y’all. Specifically how you got the ride height. I’ve got Koni active struts and Xi springs and rear spring pads but I’m still slightly lower than you. I am in a coupe though if that matters at all 🤣
@ebonydavies2191
@ebonydavies2191 11 месяцев назад
I'd love to see a few other cars Crown vic tesla or electric car An ambulance/firetruck Ford Mustang A limo 😂 A dry run of the Ford SUV police car. A will it rally shootout between some similar cars like the ex police cars, soccer mom suvs, luxury suvs.... Having said that i love the content you guys create
@everettblue146
@everettblue146 11 месяцев назад
could you do a build series on this, im buying an e46 325ci for rally and not sure what all i need to do to it to make it stage rally ready.
@tirespark
@tirespark 8 месяцев назад
reinforce that rear subframe!
@camdvrk0
@camdvrk0 10 месяцев назад
You may be hitting the limiter early if no information is coming through the right rear ABS sensor which gives you speedometer readings and gives you full range of rpm to redline.
@nmanchin
@nmanchin Год назад
Some of the best content on the 'tube. Thank you.
@IvyIsADumbBitch
@IvyIsADumbBitch 7 месяцев назад
heya! E46 owner here,, it sounds like the rev limiter on this car is coming in earlier than it should from what i could hear in the audio. It should be bouncing limiter at 6500rpm or so,, meaning you wouldn't fall quite as hard out of the power in 3rd. The speedometer not working is most likely due to a bad wheel speed sensor, believe it reads from the rear left sensor specifically, and could be part of the rev limiter problem. It should also be noted that you could get an automatic diff,, which would shorten the ratio pretty notably and really wake the car up for this kind of driving!
@solcharms
@solcharms 11 месяцев назад
Would love to see what you'd do with the 3.0L engine. It's significantly more meaty than the 2.5L with 225 hp / 221 ft-lb (at just 3500 rpm). Also, it's likely your 325 manual has the 3.15 final drive (long autobahn gearing lol). You could get a 3.46 out of an automatic for relatively cheap that will spice things up immediately. Overall, love the work you guys do!
@bidenisgod6978
@bidenisgod6978 7 месяцев назад
Right
@kylefracaro5087
@kylefracaro5087 6 месяцев назад
I regret selling my 2005 330i to this day. That car was just fantastic
@bidenisgod6978
@bidenisgod6978 6 месяцев назад
I have a e60 530i with m54b30. 265k miles. Runs great. Just did the trans fluid and filter two days ago actually. Shifts buttery
@henrik1743
@henrik1743 6 месяцев назад
Only do a oil pump nut fix and its solid af
@kommando42
@kommando42 Месяц назад
​@@kylefracaro5087 Must of had a lot of fun with it! I dream of owning a car like that someday, at least you got to experience it 😊
@doctorstruts
@doctorstruts 11 месяцев назад
Would be really fun to se a volvo 740/940 tried out on here tbh
@ThomasCWiley
@ThomasCWiley 7 месяцев назад
I’d love to see this again with a shorter final drive and a set of fresh gravel tires. Sounds like a riot
@tadeuszdolkowski
@tadeuszdolkowski 11 месяцев назад
Had a little brake from watching your channel, glad to stumble upon you again.
@andreaperaldo6702
@andreaperaldo6702 Год назад
You should put the upgrade that you mention on this car and try to beat the Can am record 😉
@bennybaldwin2627
@bennybaldwin2627 11 месяцев назад
This car looks like a riot! I have several E46's for various uses, but I think a dirt ball sedan would be hella fun. You brushed over the Bilstein HD suspension - Did you do springs? It looks like it's got a bit more ride height than a standard RWD or even AWD E46.
@e4ee4e9
@e4ee4e9 10 месяцев назад
My favorite memories in a car were ripping my car down a fire road, subbing because can't wait to see how they would do because they were a blast for me. NA Miata(topless, admittedly against better judgement) and P71 Crown Vic(plural)
@playerx240
@playerx240 7 месяцев назад
I used to own a 2005 E46 325i, and I just have to say it was lovely to drive. I miss that car.
@salami99
@salami99 5 месяцев назад
but do you miss the maintenance?
@weyderwarr
@weyderwarr 5 месяцев назад
@@salami99 I had an 04 E46 325i and can say I did not miss the maintenance. Wasn't too bad when it only had one thing that was broken at a time, I would fix things as they cropped up. Ended up selling it when the moon roof no longer wanted to stay on the rails, a mysterious parasitic drain would drain the battery over night if I didn't disconnect a terminal when parking, the driver side door lock cylinder broke and became completely free spinning, and the main seal started leaking oil, all within a period of about 3 months lol I bought a Ford F150 that I drove for a few years after that. But recently bought an F90 M5, so will see how my luck with BMW fares this time around haha
@Akac3sh
@Akac3sh 7 месяцев назад
this is the coolest shit i seen all day. thanks for this vid bro
@dannyferguson9415
@dannyferguson9415 Год назад
Nice.
@OctavChelaru
@OctavChelaru 11 дней назад
What springs did you guys go for? Thanks for all the valuable content! ❤
@danielredheffer9309
@danielredheffer9309 3 месяца назад
In summary, for those who don't have patience lol, the E46 as used in this video proves to be a fantastic entry level seat-time car for those looking to get into rally. On top of that, factors that make it good are the great weight balance, enough steering angle, and decent handling out of the box. The car in the video is modified very little, just suspension and brakes, and they mostly focused on giving it a decent tune up and new fluids to start. No matter your level of skill and training, this is a fun rally for all skill levels!
@GISJIng
@GISJIng 11 месяцев назад
Wyatt's back? Cool!
@fatihuguz.
@fatihuguz. 11 месяцев назад
can you do a video on how to use weight transfer to smooth out bumps and also can we use weight transfer to not scratch the underneath of the car
@alberto0
@alberto0 7 месяцев назад
Isn't it the one we rally with when there? I loved being on the BMWs!!!!!
@mrb8584
@mrb8584 11 месяцев назад
Wyatt seems a really cool dude
@CarGuy87
@CarGuy87 11 месяцев назад
What about the all wheel drive 3 series in manual for rallying?
@andrekemp5059
@andrekemp5059 Год назад
It needs 4:11 diff ratio to have great 3rd gear. LSD DIFF Performance exhaust. Dyno tune Rally tyres Bilstein shocks It is mad fast!
@stevef998
@stevef998 21 день назад
Still working through the back-catalogue on this series - loved the editing on this episode's 3 camera split. Were all those spectator cuts done in one take?
@Teamoneilrally
@Teamoneilrally 20 дней назад
Yes and thank you. Several Gopros running at once for the entire lap.
@lambrosstamos4494
@lambrosstamos4494 11 месяцев назад
You've mentioned suspension. Will the new Bilstein Evo R do the job or go full on Reiger?
@zacharyohare2118
@zacharyohare2118 8 месяцев назад
Do some mid engine stuff!!! And a 954 Cayenne since they are getting silly cheap I don't know where you're located- but I'd bring my GX470 and X3 M40i (which has stupid power and awd, reasonable wheelbase.) to get beat on
@kornaros96
@kornaros96 11 месяцев назад
You should bought an E46 compact. Compact rear end with reworked subframe that has no issues, quicker rack, stiffer body... Did I mention that I started on an incline with 3rd gear in a 1,6 E46 316ti? Raise 3000rpm and work the clutch on-off to not burn it! Also; are those Salomon Speedcross 6?
@joseverdejo9010
@joseverdejo9010 7 месяцев назад
I had a 328 with a 3.46 diff from an automatic and it felt like a much quicker car than on paper
@cccEngineer
@cccEngineer 11 месяцев назад
I went there when their e30s were still in the fleet. I wonder if they still use them. If not...GIMME THE E30!
@gedas3419
@gedas3419 Год назад
It should get Samsonas gearbox and dampers. there are lots of bmws rallying in europe, thus parts too
@DavidTube5
@DavidTube5 3 месяца назад
You just gotta upgrade the headlight reflector bowls
@citizenoftheworld6369
@citizenoftheworld6369 11 месяцев назад
Do a fwd rally car (like a Fiesta) for comparison.
@kalanisarpi4731
@kalanisarpi4731 Год назад
Swap the diff for an automatic e46 diff. That’ll shorten the gearing up
@Naah732
@Naah732 Год назад
They'll probably go with LSD
@andrewdemyanov7600
@andrewdemyanov7600 7 месяцев назад
Hi. What i the suspension and tyres set up?
@christossakelariou
@christossakelariou 7 месяцев назад
This car seems like a xdrive looks a lot like the front tires are getting power too
@TranceFur
@TranceFur 7 месяцев назад
It would be awesome to see how an E36 M3 does on this course :)
@joro407
@joro407 7 месяцев назад
probably the suspension would be too low
@arc_4543
@arc_4543 10 месяцев назад
I am curious, is there a significant difference between an LSD and open diff in rally? I assume most rally cars run LSDs but I wouldn't know.
@RallyeRacin9
@RallyeRacin9 11 месяцев назад
The full onboard lap without the exterior shots would be nice!
@cod44449
@cod44449 8 месяцев назад
good u guys keep the oem wheels. They are strong and TUV APPROVED
@jacktough
@jacktough 11 месяцев назад
These videos are even more fun at 1.5x speed! 😅
@JoeyLovesTrains
@JoeyLovesTrains 7 месяцев назад
Why does it look lifted??
@connorleyland8695
@connorleyland8695 5 месяцев назад
You gotta get an audi a4 out there. Cheap and id bet it would go crazy
@RT-fb6ty
@RT-fb6ty 10 месяцев назад
When do we see an electric Vehicle Rally? F150?
@boatx22
@boatx22 2 месяца назад
Subframe mounts
@salami99
@salami99 5 месяцев назад
it would be better as a 3.0L extra 70 hp and torque flat band, the gearbox is designed for it perfectly power 24/7
@DukeTheSPO0K
@DukeTheSPO0K 3 месяца назад
Why wouldn't you want the AWD 330xi? That is what I am shopping for right now.
@abdooel5shn
@abdooel5shn 7 месяцев назад
If you put an e46 m3 rear diff it will improve the final drive
@Flyturn7
@Flyturn7 Год назад
That diff looks like a limited slip to me. You can see it in the launch at 10:33
@produman12
@produman12 Год назад
With a uniform lack of tire engagement on a free differential, 2 wheels wilk rotation. 10:37 You can see that only the right wheel is rotation (sorry for my English)
@Flyturn7
@Flyturn7 Год назад
@@produman12 Yeah but if it was open left side wouldn't even push any dirt at the start. 25% lock is the most common lock used in road cars meaning if right rear has 4x torque 1x torque will be at left side that's how it pushes the dirt. If it was open all the power would be at right rear and left rear would be push dirt just like the front tires
@produman12
@produman12 Год назад
@@Flyturn7 e46 (except m versions) did not have differential locks
@Flyturn7
@Flyturn7 Год назад
@@produman12 Also it will rotate of course but it will rotate with the car moving because it gets no torque while other wheel gets all the power. And you can't do stable donuts he did at the start as well. Car will slide but as you get faster it will want to go straight right away. I have an open diff e34 believe me it refuses to continue drifting as you accelerate. Left rear will prevent lateral movement because it has no torque to make it go sideways and because right rear is spinning it can't keep the drifting by itself for there is not enough traction to carry on drifting
@Flyturn7
@Flyturn7 Год назад
@@produman12 It's common that people upgrade their bmws. I have swapped a 6 speed manual transmission from an e60 and a lower ratio differential to increase the top speed of my car to go up to 280kph. Old bmws are like legos you can swap in many parts from other cars and do it very cheaply. And people who have bmws like to work on and upgrade their cars. Also with open diff you only get 50/50 torque at wheels until one of them starts spinning after that the spinning wheel will hog all the power I forgot to mention that it is way more simple explanation.
@RedHawkish
@RedHawkish 7 месяцев назад
for this type of driving, do you think 4 door or 2 door is best?
@apodski
@apodski 7 месяцев назад
4 door is significantly more rigid, slightly lighter, and often cheaper. So definitely 4 door. Non-folding seat versions make a bigger difference for body rigidity than the number of doors tho.
@toto29620
@toto29620 6 месяцев назад
Your vanos seal are probably bad if you dont have low end power, pretty cheap and easy to do.
@hillsidemotorsport7736
@hillsidemotorsport7736 Год назад
330i would have been a lot gruntier! Also some 325i's came with a 3.15 diff, some with 3.46. Find a 3.64, and check it's got the "fast" 3.0 turn purple tag steering rack, if not, bolt that sucker in.
@solcharms
@solcharms 11 месяцев назад
3.64 final drives are rare as they only came in auto zhp's. The 3.46 is a dime a dozen (almost all facelift automatics had one).
@dannyh6511
@dannyh6511 7 месяцев назад
CHANGE VANOS SEALS if you haven't done so already :)
@dylancoppenrath5673
@dylancoppenrath5673 7 месяцев назад
How about a little weight reduction instead of a gear change
@contentlocked99
@contentlocked99 7 месяцев назад
Are you the warden from superjail? Lol
@edugamer950
@edugamer950 8 месяцев назад
The 6-speed trans is a lot better on these cars, shorter gearing and usable third. A lot of people just put the diesel's final drive on this ones.
@Dmxravin
@Dmxravin 7 месяцев назад
Six speed trans has the exact same gear ratios as 5 speed with sixth gear being overdrive.
@edugamer950
@edugamer950 7 месяцев назад
@@Dmxravin I have a 5 speed and 6 speed, that's simply not true
@Dmxravin
@Dmxravin 7 месяцев назад
@@edugamer950 oh right I didn’t realise the 1-2 is shorter.
@elijahschool2725
@elijahschool2725 11 месяцев назад
do a Mercedes c class next please w203
@SoybeanAK
@SoybeanAK 9 месяцев назад
@dougzzzie738
@dougzzzie738 7 месяцев назад
My good reason for not picking an E46: $1400 2002 Lexus IS300
@hongbanphimd1737
@hongbanphimd1737 11 месяцев назад
how about rallying on a rx350 hardest thing in the earth:))
@simeonmarinov2017
@simeonmarinov2017 7 месяцев назад
Ahhh classic overheating meme (im a bmw owner)
@jivalroopnarian
@jivalroopnarian 7 месяцев назад
That car is not stock
@apodski
@apodski 7 месяцев назад
Bilstein hd suspension is dirt cheap, it's pretty much what stock wagons and sport package e46s have. This car is more stock than 90% of all 20 year old cars.
@jivalroopnarian
@jivalroopnarian 7 месяцев назад
@@apodski fair but it still has a modification that would definitely help it offroad
@apodski
@apodski 7 месяцев назад
@@jivalroopnarian yeah, but it is a change of only a few percent. All the E46s left the factory with a weirdly long suspension travel of like 12" and abnormally stiff shocks and struts.
@jivalroopnarian
@jivalroopnarian 7 месяцев назад
@@apodski oh ok it just looks wayyy higher than I thought it would
@apodski
@apodski 7 месяцев назад
@@jivalroopnarian That's probably because when you replace the front rubber strut mounts they sit high until they break in. I'm guessing they also put the bmw oem made stut tower tower reinforcement plates in, which add a few millimeters.
@DougEFresh02
@DougEFresh02 Год назад
Wtf is an "e series"?
@subaruimprezawrx
@subaruimprezawrx Год назад
deez nutz
@urmumgay5798
@urmumgay5798 Год назад
joe mama
@alan-
@alan- Год назад
Shorter final drive OR smaller wheels
@niilochiddick493
@niilochiddick493 7 месяцев назад
probably needs VANOS seals replaced.
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