Old World 1250 Point Battle Report: Wood Elves Vs Tomb Kings

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The Old World is back!
Join us as we take our first steps into Warhammer Old World. Stephen is joined by Lady Khaine in this battle report as the Hawk-eyed Wood Elves take on the Indomitable Tomb Kings. Both forces will attempt to take the tower in the centre of the battlefield as it is of strategic importance to both factions. Who will win? let us know in the comments if your excited for Old World and what factions you want on the channel next.
A massive thank you to Games Workshop for supplying us with a preview copy of the Old World and allowing us to bring this fantastic game too life.
Also a huge thank you to Chloe aka Lady Khaine for joining us and helping to make this battle report, we hope you enjoy the game.
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@ladykhaine1021 6 месяцев назад

Had so much fun making this batrep with the VT team. Loved playing Old World and can't wait to come back for a rematch!

@LittlePeoplePainter 6 месяцев назад

Was lovely working with you! Super fun day

@skeletonfish110 6 месяцев назад

Super fun game to watch with two friends!

@amw1029 6 месяцев назад

Looked great but my pet ball Wilsun tells me that Not only have you got 3 deep wood scouts and the rules says it's a 0-1 choice. That the pointy eared god's themselves only know how many other rules you got wrong. But I have faith so I'll keep waiting impatiently for you to be as awesome as I hope you can be :p

@Unaidedfoot 3 месяца назад

Great fun report to watch as a new player.

@await-rescue 6 месяцев назад

Quick rule you missed: even without a wizard you can attempt a fated dispel.

@justinbarnes8834 6 месяцев назад

Not sure the charge in turn one was done properly as you are only allowed a single wheel when charging. This would have had to go over the edge of the wood.... and only contacted the skelly horses at the extreme end of the unit if at all otherwise there should have been some sort of testing or movement penalty? You must move through terrain to comply with the charging rules it it requires you to contact maximum models in the target.

@Onk3lM0 6 месяцев назад

Quick rules correction: You don't get a regen (or any other save) if your units suffer damage due to the "unstable" rule. The Skeletons will just crumble to dust.

@TheKApsFast 5 месяцев назад

Thank you mate 😅 i was going crazy thinking about how many skellys i could have saved!!! After the first fight I stopped the video and searched all the rules trying to figure out this clarification

@brentwalker3465 6 месяцев назад

I can't get over that I am watching warhammer the old world on RU-vid again! Thanks guys n gals for a fantastic video!

@FootofPork 6 месяцев назад

whoops. might wanna reread front/flank/rear rules for charges. Those wildriders were in the chariot's front arc on the second wildrider charge. Awesome video nonetheless.

@windowlicker2846 6 месяцев назад

Are you guys planning more regular Old World content? This is the best produced video I've seen so far.

@VanguardTactics 6 месяцев назад

That's amazing thank you! we put a lot of effort into this video, but we most definitely are, what factions would you like to see?

@markvanhorn426 6 месяцев назад

Tomb Kings and High Elves for me!@@VanguardTactics

@spyrojoe4721 6 месяцев назад

@@VanguardTactics vampire counts!

@Romancenturion-no3cm 6 месяцев назад

Bretonnia would be awesome!@@VanguardTactics

@landerbennewith6169 6 месяцев назад

@@VanguardTactics Yes, I would like to see factions! I might be able to narrow it down. High elves would be awesome, more wood elves are always great! Might as well round off the trifecta and go for the Druchii as well! Then you can't play The Old World without bretonia and tomb kings. Then why play tomb kings if not to play the rotten inherritors of Nagash in the Vampire Counts? So we need those guys in. If you've got the vampire counts then you're gonna need a conflict with the Empire and even their ancient allies of the Dwarfs. Then with the Dwarfs on the table how can you not do a battle against the Orcs and Goblins? With Orcs and Goblins on the table, you really need a battle of muscle meets fat, or little goblin horde vs big beefy boys by getting the ogre kingdoms on the table. If you've got the ogre kingdoms then you've really got to include the other bestial faction in the Beastmen so they need to be involved. If you've got beastmen you need the faction which is totally just a different type of beastman in the Skaven. If you're bringing Skaven and their warp majiks then you're gonna have to include the forces of Chaos ready to take that warp stone. Warriors dwarfs and daemons alike! If chaos is there then you need a battle against their ancient foe in the lizardmen. You just can't narrow it down.

@7Cow7man7 6 месяцев назад

So stoked that VT is doing Old World content! The new game is bringing me back into the hobby after 13 years away.

@VanguardTactics 6 месяцев назад

I think it's done that for a lot of us! it has for a lot of the team here at VT

@89odan 6 месяцев назад

Most of the time we just see you talking. It would be more entertaining to have more close ups on the battlefield/units imho. Just suggesting, thanks for the batreps 😃

@VanguardTactics 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for the feedback, we will look at adding more close ups in future recordings, we don't normally do pre recorded battle reports but its something we have been working on to start becoming a regular feature on the channel, so appreciate the suggestion :)

@jimboonlyone 6 месяцев назад

A speaking overview of each player, like you talk about the elves turn one, show the moves from above and speak in the mic as you do it?

@themanabroad7800 6 месяцев назад

Agreed

@editor2766 6 месяцев назад

It was a nice bat rep! But more close ups of those beautiful minis for sure

@XciccibonziX 6 месяцев назад

The Wood Elves list was not legal unfortunately. It should have included a unit of Glade Guard, which are 1+ in the army selection. Great battler report though, keep it up :)

@khristienpennanen1810 6 месяцев назад

There were definitely lots of little things but also they were open about that at the beginning. That 2nd wild rider charge was definitely not legal haha

@Mithguar 6 месяцев назад

@@khristienpennanen1810 not legal or would that be disorderly charge or something (no bonuses)? Don't have book so no idea about actual rules on turns on charges.

@grindcoredome 6 месяцев назад

Yep. 1 Of those Deepwood scouts should have been Glade Guard. 😂 but the attitude is positive and the edition it’s clean. Kudos!

@robertgeroux359 6 месяцев назад

Big thanks for keeping things simple and going slow as we all ease (back) into the Old World. Rules feel familiar but this report also felt kind of like a tutorial, which is very much appreciated. Also, love the edited battle reports keep them coming that format! I know it more work for VT but the end product is so crisp!

@karlaldridge4848 6 месяцев назад

You need to look at the units as they fight or it gets very confusing. Great work showing new rules and breakdowns though. 👌

@Lollix87 6 месяцев назад

Loved to see my wood elves on the action! I normally don't watch long videos above 1hr, but here you got me watch all of it! ❤

@tahnsau 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for this. I like how you both walked through the steps so even new players, or players looking to start can keep up. I know you mentioned you both were new as well, but it really helps. Also, great commentary. I could hear and understand both of you, which other channels can't seem to make happen. It's little things like that that will set this channel apart. Thanks again.

@Tideriongaming 6 месяцев назад

Not a warhammer expert by any means, but from what I've seen on other streams: -I don't believe regeneration saves applying to crumbling. Whatever you lose due to combat resolution is just lost. -Her reincarnation during the strategy phase requires a leadership check, which she didnt' seem to be making.

@masterwesty 5 месяцев назад

I can’t find anywhere where it says regeneration isn’t allowed due to wounds lost by unstable. In 8th edition and before I’m sure it stated no saves can be made to prevent the wound.

@Tideriongaming 5 месяцев назад

@@masterwesty Perhaps GW could clarify this in a FAQ, but the way I read it, regeneration applies to combat results, and the wounds allocated by the Unstable rule are non-combat. Wounds-after-the-fact if you would like.

@masterwesty 5 месяцев назад

@@Tideriongaming it makes sense the way you’re explaining it and I think that’s how it is intended but it isn’t clear.

@Tideriongaming 5 месяцев назад

@@masterwesty I could well be wrong, but that's the general consensus so far and it makes the most sense, otherwise I don't know why regenerations would count for combat results. I don't see them purposefully allowing regeneration to double dip on what's essentially the same damage, but perhaps GW needs to release an official FAQ on this.

@jensbalslev4693 6 месяцев назад

Great to see Old World-content! More, please!

@jackn2462 6 месяцев назад

The more I watch other battle reports, the more I appreciate this one. Dice cam, throwing the chart up on the screen and the between turn reactions are all very nice touches. Looking forward to more!

@TheMrSlize 6 месяцев назад

Keep in mind that when you loose combat, and opponent unit strength is twice or more, theres no fall back in good order, it then becomes Break & Flee. ( about driads falling back in good order ) Otherwise i really liked the montage and form of this. Only thing i would mention is maybe to show more of these nice models and table

@oleksandranisimov1627 6 месяцев назад

Driads have stubborn special rule

@TheMrSlize 6 месяцев назад

@@oleksandranisimov1627 Stubborn only apply to first lost combat, later you loose it (whatever you use it or not) He made multiple fallback in good order with them. Its fine, everyone need to play few games to grab the rules

@TheKiira25 6 месяцев назад

Sad for the Wood-elf falling at 12:52, RIP Qulathis 🥲

@LittlePeoplePainter 6 месяцев назад

😂 some emergency surgery was done ☠️

@stphndxn 6 месяцев назад

Thank you so much for creating this battle report, Vanguard Tactics! I absolutely love that you're creating The Old World content, and I can't wait to see more! I also love the cutaways too. 😁

@SnowElf_96 6 месяцев назад

Happy to eat Old World back. Wish Dark Elves and other factions made it in but im happy with Wood Elves and High Elves being back.

@ilovecokeslurpees 6 месяцев назад

Wood Elves look great. I've always wanted to play them and I think I will once they come out.

@MrGilmo88 6 месяцев назад

Great game, great format and great visuals. Loved it! Keep it up and make sure to make Chloe a regular!

@stephenleggett4243 6 месяцев назад

Loving seeing all the channels showing Old World and nice to see something a little different with the Wood Elves.

@VHSlaughterFest 6 месяцев назад

Loved this batrep, awesome job! Can’t wait for more of these, keep up the good work 💪

@dennismaddox3869 6 месяцев назад

Isnt Glade Guard a 1+ so you have to take at least 1 unit?

@ieatlols 6 месяцев назад

Yea you're right

@Vladthemetalhead 6 месяцев назад

Also deepwood scouts have a limit of 0-1 per 1000pts However this is a very complicated game and we all all going to make mistakes in our first few games (at a very minimum) Great work guys BTW love the vid and love old world being back

@82Naitsabes 6 месяцев назад

@@VladthemetalheadDeepwood Scouts are also on the special list with no limit, that might do it.

@andrew53519 6 месяцев назад

First time I ever watched your battle reports and it’s incredible! Great commentary and for someone interested but who doesnt fully know the rules you explained so much so efficiently as you went about each turn. Thank you and can’t wait to watch more! Subscribed!

@francois-albertlaurent9715 6 месяцев назад

Very cool to have you play Old World. Would love to see you master the rulles a bit more though. A few important mistakes, but it's your first game, so no worries there.

@sylvesterbak5942 6 месяцев назад

Awesome! Hope to see more from you guys 💪

@rorck9876 6 месяцев назад

When the tomb kings gets the inestability, should they get the regeneration? i thought its only when they are saving regular or magic attack

@Grievas85 6 месяцев назад

I really loved the rule scraps that you put on video during every safe. Really useful as I've never played Warhammer before and that helped a lot. Great idea!

@VanguardTactics 6 месяцев назад

Glad to hear it!

@l.d.6841 6 месяцев назад

I loved the BR so much fun to watch! Thanks a lot for putting the effort! One wish: it would be so nice to see the units fighting with a quick close-up from time to time. Over the course of the game I really lost the idea where which unit was and how the unit strenghts developed. Unfortunately, from the distance and hidden behind the trees I couldn't see anything really

@seppbrandner 6 месяцев назад

Love the batrep!! Keep the old word battles coming ❤

@adamvasey4174 6 месяцев назад

Amazing! More please!!!

@michaelholmes2607 6 месяцев назад

I would definitely love more of this content please! Army wise love to see Bretonians as that’s the army I’ll be playing with in Old World

@thegreatangel8251 6 месяцев назад

Fantastic! Yes please more battle reports! I do enjoy your live stream battles but I often just don’t have time to catch them or watch them all the way through. Excited to see more of these

@demarderubo 6 месяцев назад

Great video guys, super high quality. More of this please!

@PMMagro 6 месяцев назад

Great armies and board :) nice video too. I might have to look trhough my crytp because I know there are som Tomb Kings down there...

@jens176 6 месяцев назад

More old world!!❤❤

@brucelim8574 6 месяцев назад

Great batrep can't wait to see more

@lolpop4030 6 месяцев назад

Good video. Educational

@xRyanSCx 6 месяцев назад

That’s officially the best video on the channel. The competition is immense but the production quality AND the old world? Tough to beat that. Please give us more of the old world!

@Y3llowSt4r 6 месяцев назад

More Old World plz

@xenosophont 6 месяцев назад

Battle reports for this kind of regiment based mass battle wargame really benefit from a top down camera view or a similar angle that can show what is where. I couldn't make out the positioning of the units (again; crucial for this kind of game unlike 40K) here because of your camera angle and all the terrain blocking the view.

@redxarmy7807 6 месяцев назад

When I first got into Warhammer I wanted to play Old World however I heard it was gone and Age of Sigmar was the new thing. I'm super happy now they got this game back! Even though I can't play my Skaven or Lizard men. Tomb Kings is my third favorite faction and I'm glad they have support!

@editor2766 6 месяцев назад

You absolutely can play your skaven and lizardmen, just not at tournaments. The legacy rules are great!

@LoneWolf40kPainting 6 месяцев назад

If you make tow content regularly I would gladly join!

@GrimDarkDude 5 месяцев назад

this was my favorite old world battle report i have seen yet keep it up !

@1Viewer_ 6 месяцев назад

Loving this! and also loving the kind of "slow play", perfect tempo for my slow brain :) Hoping for more!

@foreverthesceptic7942 5 месяцев назад

I've watched a ton of battle reports recently for the old world and this is the best so far, especially for a beginner like me - very concise and clear! Would love to see some High Elves in action!

@teessidetyrants1989 6 месяцев назад

Great video. So excited for the old world. Thanks team

@shmabadu 6 месяцев назад

Hands down one of the best battle reports for the Old World that I’ve seen. Great job all around.

@jeffreysoutherland774 6 месяцев назад

Great battle report!! Thanks for posting and please do more!!

@acefromspace5843 6 месяцев назад

Really enjoyed this, easy to follow how this new version of the game is played.

@ComandaKronikk Месяц назад

Man this was great, I wish you'd do more old world battle reports!! :D

@danielwhite7297 6 месяцев назад

Yes! Yes! and YEESSS! More Old World please! So hyped for it!

@AK47_ASH 4 месяца назад

awesome battle report I can't wait for some more old world content soon!

@LordMacragge31 6 месяцев назад

dont you have to take 1+ unit of glade guard for wood elves?

@SlainByAnOrc 6 месяцев назад

Why cant anyone play this game correctly?

@jacobeliasson8665 6 месяцев назад

Had the same question. Glad to see someone already did it

@philbatchelor9325 6 месяцев назад

Absolutely awesome battle rep guys! Quality was brilliant, I loves Steve's commentary and insights, reminded me of an ITV reality show in a good way 😂

@AquitaineUA 6 месяцев назад

Love it!!!! New subscriber!!

@joefinboy 6 месяцев назад

Fantastic battle report you guys! It was truly enjoyable to watch, keep it coming!

@VanguardTactics 6 месяцев назад

Thanks! Will do!

@paulpreston1569 6 месяцев назад

This is great! I love this style of video (a combo of straight battle report and also tutorial). I'd love to find something like this for Age of Sigmar games.

@bobab1241 6 месяцев назад

Liked the format (espacially the fact that it was not live) and the batrep.Please more old world exactly like that ;)

@downtobaker2676 6 месяцев назад

Beautiful BatRep; very nice eye-catcher! Hope to see others Be warned about some mistakes you did while playing like no any kind of saves vs Instability losses, armies composition and so on. Yet, wonderful demo, guys, a very pleasure to watch and rewatch! :)

@DickFaceMcgee1000 6 месяцев назад

Huge fan of the wood elves and excited to see how they fleet footed firepower is brought to bear on the undead intruders!

@ImaginationHobbies 6 месяцев назад

Yes! OLD WORLD CONTENT!

@Keplaves 6 месяцев назад

Would the horse archers against the wild riders have fought back as you removed the front row and in old world there is no stepping up? Just checking! Great report though, thanks both.

@Mithguar 6 месяцев назад

Same questions. Obviously some people are mixing interactions form Fantasy Battle that might not be a thing anymore in Old World so conformation would be in appreciated.

@grlmgor 6 месяцев назад

If you step up into the front rank you don't get to attack. Also horse archer cant attack in 2 ranks. Only the horsemen can if they haven't move and have cavalry spears.

@robharris5317 6 месяцев назад

Absolutely loved this battle report, very well done a nice medium sized battle that showcased the amazing old world rules. Well done guys for a superb, game!!

@warpaintjj 6 месяцев назад

Not watched your channel for years, BUT Fantasy does it for me, the holy grail of Wargames ☺️ More please… 👏

@CLAREROMVoid 6 месяцев назад

I thought you guys only did 40K. Glad you're covering OW too. Some lizardmen next perhaps?

@OldZean 6 месяцев назад

Feedback: very good to follow, might be slow for experienced players but right now it's what I wanted! Thanks

@theclovercross 6 месяцев назад

12:55 elf in the tower got tired of living haha

@ZombieBrainsDev 5 месяцев назад

Well made report. I look forward to more.

@seerozymandias7616 6 месяцев назад

Great bdiro but biggest props go to the editor! Really well done and easy to watch.

@AnHourOfWolves 6 месяцев назад

Yeeeeesssssssssss! Thanks for posting. :)

@pierre-mariegruss3035 6 месяцев назад

Your old world content is so amazing, keep on the good work!

@VanguardTactics 6 месяцев назад

Glad you enjoy it!

@Guvguvmcguv 6 месяцев назад

More please. Most enjoyable.

@RekisDiabetis 6 месяцев назад

Love this, very well made and great to see my beloved Wood Elves in a game :) BUT; I miss seeing more of the board and which models/units are actually fighting, more of that rather than the constant focus on the players even though they were great..

@LegateGallus 6 месяцев назад

I haven't even watched the report yet and just seeing that absolutely classic fantasy terrain has me hyped!

@jellyfiish2870 5 месяцев назад

Great content! More of Old World please!!

@allanblack2793 6 месяцев назад

Let’s see more Old World content 👍👍

@jolamber 6 месяцев назад

Very cool

@robbielowry1984 6 месяцев назад

Love to see you doing OW! Wood Elves were my first warhammer army back around '98? Thanks for the bat rep!

@crisisgear 6 месяцев назад

Remember if the kills are equal or greater than the front rank (generally), the enemy may not retaliate apart from their champion (unless they don't have one, or some attacks were declared against the champion and killed it).

@grlmgor 6 месяцев назад

Unless they start with 3 ranks or more.

@crisisgear 6 месяцев назад

@@grlmgor The amount of ranks doesn't matter for fighting back, the unit replaces the casualties by stepping forward, if a model has stepped forward it may not attack.

@grlmgor 6 месяцев назад

@@crisisgear Only if their stepping forward into the *front rank* So if you have a unit of spearmen that lost the whole front rank. The 2nd rank doesn't get to attack but the 3rd rank steps up into the 2nd and does get to attack.

@crisisgear 6 месяцев назад

@@grlmgor Hence why I said generally :P

@hansjohannsen6722 6 месяцев назад

Heard about this somewhere? Go Bots! Well Bone Bots!

@shassa90 5 месяцев назад

So great to watch. Love the pacing of Old World. Big change from 40k.

@user-xu6bc4pq1y 6 месяцев назад

Didn't expect to see VT doing TOW, but I love it, great to see Wood Elves put up a showing, Wild Riders rolling a whole flank on their own, excited for more!

@thetentacle5488 28 дней назад

Love the bit at 12:50. where the model fell of the tower

@josephcarlin1463 6 месяцев назад

Great battle report. First time I’ve seen Wood Elves and they are ace 👍 just a quick note, each army gets a Fated Dispel once per round on 2D6 no mods, regardless of having a spellcaster or not. Just a note for future games.

@DrVitoti 6 месяцев назад

When you flee or pursue if you have swiftstride (like the dragon has) you can add 1D6, so that dragon would have caught the fleeing dryads. Also, if you want to restrain when the enemy falls back in good order, gives ground or flees, you have to pass a leadership test. Also you can't shoot into combat. Also, if you follow into an enemy that fell back in good order instead of restraining when you win a battle in your turn, next turn of combat you count as having charged instead of being charged yourself, so unless you no longer want to keep fighting that enemy or you don't think you can catch them (because they have swiftstride and you don't, so you might be making their next charge easier) it is usually always better to follow. Exceptions are if it is the opponent's turn because next turn you can shoot into the unit that fled or charge them yourself (although then they can choose to flee or shoot and hold if distance permits)

@dickie4559 6 месяцев назад

Happy with that! Very insightful. Was more of a walk through, talk through lesson. Which makes sense for the brand, though you're giving lessons away for free. Bit more sweeping over the battle field for emersion and visual indulgence would be ace.

@dickie4559 6 месяцев назад

Like at the end of each turn before the sit down thought process. Have a load screen of sorts of the battle field being flown over, proper birds eye view, swooping for situational awareness. Only a thought.

@MarkAndTerra 6 месяцев назад

Some other things missed: Terror test when the Dragon charges. Leadership Test to restrain after winning combat. Fear Test when charging a unit with a higher Unit Strength or when in Combat with a Fear unit that has a higher Unit Strength. Dragon has Regen 5+ I believe.

@lordravenblade 6 месяцев назад

Wish I had a copy of the rulebook, but doesn't the loose formation or whatever the TK light cavalry have allow the whole unit to shoot? I thought they basically got "skirmish without being spaced out" or maybe I'm thinking of the Fast Cavalry rule from some other edition.

@crisisgear 6 месяцев назад

O also turn 2 you put the wild riders in the flank of the chariots on their charge, you put the charge angle on the defending unit not the assaulting unit. So I believe they would of been in the chariots front arc. Also aren't dryads flammable so no regen against dragons breath? Seems you were both enjoying it though, which is good :)

@SlainByAnOrc 6 месяцев назад

The dragon breath is not a flaming attack.

@AnHourOfWolves 6 месяцев назад

So, about that charge into the side of the chariots.... I thought that the chariot that got destroyed in the initial charge would make it so that none of the tomb kings could fight back, since that chariot was the only one on the front rank. Is that correct? There is no step-up rule anymore right?

@jango268 4 месяца назад

Subbed to this channel hoping fornmore old world content! Just some more close up glory shots of the models and this would be near perfect! Great batrep!

@Valfodur 6 месяцев назад

Love to see it!!

@philipbowles5397 6 месяцев назад

Several rules issues I noticed: The Wood Elf list wasn't fully legal - the army needs 1+ units of Glade Guard. In practice this just means that one of the Deepwood Scout units would have been 2pts cheaper per model and lost skirmish, which could have usefully put points towards more Dryads (those were the unsung heroes - they're remarkably resilient). As far as I could tell, you never rolled to restrain when choosing not to follow up a withdrawing unit.

@user-nk9ig5wt2c 6 месяцев назад

real question is why not using ap-2 arrow for archer istead of poisonous one ? (or the fire one to negate TK regen)

@Stonehorn 6 месяцев назад

You guys need trays. Those were some real loose moves. Also, foirst turn, you roll your charge, then before you move in, she gets her charge reaction. If she had decided to flee, you would have needed your full movement. I think even skirmishers block line of sight to their back ranks (but not on a hill).

@crisisgear 6 месяцев назад

As long as skirmishers can draw a line between a gap between friendly models in their unit, they may shoot.

@user-cd8gg7xl3g 6 месяцев назад

old world reports are the best

@trevorodell7528 6 месяцев назад

Loved this video! As a warhammer beginner it was a bit hard to keep track of where combats and actions were happening on the table. Perhaps consider using more overhead shots of the table before dice rolls or as they happen!