Not entirely sure she loved her son. The lord oaf of high garden. Maybe she was always disappointed of Mace, but she still loved him, just as Tywin was always disappointed in his family
There’s not a lot of people that own their death scene, but Olenna managed to be the most badass character as she was doing. “Tell Cersei, I want her to know it was me” Gives me chills
Yes and no. End of the day her house is wiped out. An entire generation gone. After 2/3rd generation no one would talk about tyrell but they will through lannister. Tyrion atleast lives and others.
Brienne was a strong (in many ways), bold, honest and dutiful woman - Not that Olenna was all of these things all the time, but she would have respected the hell out of her, perhaps even more than anyone else.
@@mi5anthrope yeah there is that, but i also think that olenna is just thrilled at the idea that brien could humiliate most of the men in westeros 1v1😂
Olenna was an extremely clever ambitious woman who was 100% done with the social constructs of her society. Though Brienne desperately wanted to fit into their society, she had to forge her own way and she broke tradition in a hundred different ways. That makes her braver than any other knight Olenna ever met.
Because Brien, unlike every other woman in the series except Melisandre and Arya, depended on her own skills and power. She was not just someone's wife and daughter.
"Not now Mace, Lord Tywin and I are speaking" I know she's his mother but I love how she just straight up tells one of the most powerful lords in Westeros to fuck off 😂
@chokamilk272 Through out the show, yeah he was pretty pointless. Really little more than background filling. Which is sad, considering lore wise he does play a semi important role. Mainly, he was the one who laid siege to storms end during the rebellion. Which was being commanded on the other side by a teenage Stannis. Maice is the one who hardened Stannis into the ball busting pragmatic man we saw in the show.
There is a Doctor Who episode (Matt Smith era) where the Doctor is trying to persuade her not to activate the MacGuffin he says something alone the lines of "In the wrong hands, this could end the world". She holds her hands out and asks "What are these?" The Doctor looks confused, about to answer, when she says "The wrong hands" You could tell her character was demented and Diana was having fun.
Yes, but she was actually misleading Varys. He was being nosey and she knew it. He was asking why she was talking with Sansa - which was to get information on Joffrey. She promised Sansa to keep her secret, and by sarcastically saying that Sansa is not interesting she was changing the subject and keeping Sansa's secret.
"He really was a c**t, wasn't he?" I spat my drink across the room when watching the episode for the first time. I knew Olenna was acid-tongued but that just caught me completely off-guard.
It's nice to know Diana Rigg got the chance to shine so brightly near the end of her life. She'll be remembered for many great performances, but this might be the most compelling character of her career.
The most epic one was definitely "Ah the *famously* tart Queen of Thorns" "And the *famous* tart Queen Cersei" Cersei thought she was veing clever only to get punned (?) to humiliation.
@@mysidian "Tart" changes meaning depending if it's used as an adjective or a noun. Cersei called Olenna "sour", Olenna shot back by calling her a $lut.
@mysidian - The word 'tart' has a few different meanings in English: - Something with a sour or bitter taste - An open-topped pie - A promiscuous woman Cersei was calling Olena acid-tongued and bitter and Olena was calling Cersei promiscuous.
Olenna and Tywin both had a VASTLY larger presence in the show than in the books. The actors were both great and the writers gave them both excellent scenes.
In a pit of vipers, where everyone is speaking out of both sides of their mouth and feverishly attempting to backstab the other, it’s refreshing to have a character like Olenna Tyrell who is so far above the Game of Thrones that she can speak her mind because she knows she’s untouchable. What an icon.
I did get the feeling that Olenna actually did care about Sansa in a way. She saw a tormented girl who was petrified and realized that Sansa had been forced to do what Olenna was able to avoid.
@@aleksandarvil5718ive marathoned season 1-7 and about to come to 8. I read most fans are dismayed by Season 8, what happend? Was there a change of writers? Or did they rush the season? Thanks
They abandoned common sense, multiple plot lines and finally any semblance of competent writing, in that order. (Mostly because they were promised a Star Wars show once it was over and they wanted to get on with that, but because of how atrocious season 8 was the project got pulled.) Never rush the finale folks. We call that "Doing a Dan and Dave" now.
That' one of the biggest fumbles in the decade, and a very dumb one at that. Star Wars already existed for decades, these guys are just one of many writers who had touched the series. Game of Thrones reached i' level of Frame due to their and the original writer' material. Their whole careers were would be linked to producing such a massive hit!. Ye they fumbled that just to become another writer for star wars...
Honestly, the “Not now, Mace, Lord Tywin and I are speaking,” is an underrated gem that never ceases to elicit a cackle from me because it’s SO disrespectful and she doesn’t even insult him or anything 😂 That, and another underrated line that she goes straight into LITTLEFINGER’S PLACE OF BUSINESS, one of the most dangerous men in the seven kingdoms, and threatens him like “you think you’re hot shit? Look at this old face and tell me I don’t know exactly what I’m talking about.” Fuckin badass
One of the biggest non-secrets in Westeros is that even though Mace is officially the Lord of Highgarden and all the titles that come with that, Olenna is the one truly running the show and the one Tywin addresses as an equal, while Mace is viewed with all the relevance of a child.
@@Outsyder216 Mace in the show and Mace in the books are somewhat different characters, in that book Mace is less of a joke and a medium warrior/war general, although he’s sorely lacking in experience since he’s been in peacetime for the last few decades. So he has few real accomplishments to his name. However, all of his sons are formidable knights, especially Loras Tyrel, who Jamie Lannister literally realizes in the books with a tinge of horror, “He’s better than I am,” while watching him not only out-joust the mountain but then hold his own in sword battle for a few minutes, after Gregor loses his temper. Which is remarkable considering Gregor is 8 ft tall of rage, and Loras is teenager a head and a half shorter and lithe as a whip by comparison. But in the show, Sandor steps in almost immediately and it heavily implies that Loras would have been dead meat imminently, if not for Sandor’s intervention. In the books, it’s only when Loras is starting to lose momentum and stamina from huge dodges or blocking/ absorbing massive blows to the point that his wooden shield completely comes apart and he tosses it aside, staggering, that The Hound steps in to fight. Also, neither the show nor I have even touched on Garth, nor Wyllas (Mace’s other sons) here, but both are also highly impressive and capable individuals, even Wyllas who was crippled by his horse falling on him during a tourney when he was just a teenager. But he basically runs Highgarden for Mace and is extremely learned, since his dreams of being a knight were snatched away. That’s why the Tyrel’s are really so smart about money-Wyllas’s cleverness with numbers, post-accident, as well as Olenna’s influence. But she’s actually far less visible in the books, and her grandsons are really remarkable young men. Loras becomes the second youngest member ever to join the kingsguard, and Jamie knows that he deserves it more than he did when he was given the white cloak, which king Ares only did to spite Tywin by robbing him of his male heir to casterly rock. Basically if he hadn’t been so stupidly brave and gotten himself killed (which he’d basically been yearning for since Renley died), he might have been the next greatest knight in the kingdom. The next Ser Barriston the Bold. And since he was highly implied to be gay in the books (not like in the show which was very openly stated), he was never likely to dishonor his white cloak by secretly father children or taking a wife.😆
Every character makes foolproof plans to kill Joffrey: fails Olenna Tyrell uses a poison she has never seen before: success That was the day reverse plot-armour was invented.
She was awesome!!!! That lady put everyone in their place with dispatch!! An amazing roast master with the unmatched blade of truth behind her ever word... That lady has my unending respect and admiration... 😊😊😊😊
Olenna was the only character in the later seasons I was actually still excited for. She was just as "no bs" as Tywin but in a totally different, charismatic way. Like, I wish we got an interaction between Olenna Tyrell and Robert Baratheon because it would be LEGENDARY
