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#forzahorizon #retrospective #videogamepreservation
Digital Rights Management, or DRM, imposes limitations on digital distribution of media, including video games. Even though they are some of Microsoft's best selling and best reviewed exclusive titles, the first three Forza Horizon games are doomed to digital obscurity because of DRM. Which is a shame, because 2012's Forza Horizon is superb.
Played on Xbox Series X.
Recorded on Elgato 4K60 S+ in SD/standalone mode.

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@nrXic
@nrXic 5 месяцев назад
Game dev here. This has nothing to do with digital games or DRM, this has to do with licensing which have term limits. Both music and cars. People can still play the game so it clearly isn't a matter of DRM (which would prevent people from playing purchased games). Whether physical or digital anyone who has bought the game can still play it. My brother's band was part of GTA V DLC and there was no term limit, meaning that the game can be sold digitally in 50 years and it covers that. Again, nothing to do with it being a digital copy or the game having DRM. So your complaint has to do with inadequate licensing practices which is often tied to licensing costs. Games have a much longer digital shelf life than physical shelf life. Licensing agreements need to take that into account. GTA makes enough revenue to sign these no-term agreements and it would be nice to see that with all games but it's pretty unrealistic to expect.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
I'm actually very glad to have this comment here. I guess I am using DRM and licensing interchangeably when they're really two different things. DRM stands for "digital rights management" so I thought it was all sort of the same bucket.
@nrXic
@nrXic 5 месяцев назад
@@brentsacks Exactly.
@X_irtz
@X_irtz 4 месяца назад
What was the name of your brother's band if i may ask?
@nrXic
@nrXic 4 месяца назад
@@X_irtz Crack Cloud. Their music was added to one of the DLCs, the station hosted by Julien Casablanca. Kult FM I think it was? The song was Drab Measure.
@bmqww223
@bmqww223 4 месяца назад
@@brentsacks Instead of jumping hoops over this simple issue just get a pirated ROM... That solves every issues...you can play it in Xenia...
@Koalawithsixstrings
@Koalawithsixstrings 5 месяцев назад
Not a licensing expert here but the reason Forza horizon ( or any horizon game after 4 years ) get delisted is because of the car licenses expire every 4 years, ( this is why Horizon 1 was delisted in October 20 2016 ). They can renew them but would cost more then what Microsoft gets in return plus they may not get certain car licenses back. In terms of music, the license is 10 years most of the time.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
👏🏻 Gotcha. There you have it
@silence9791
@silence9791 5 месяцев назад
Hope one day they do a bundle with all DLC Forza horizon to Forza horizon 3
@steveramundo4946
@steveramundo4946 5 месяцев назад
yeah but that is BS - If I pay for something, I should be able to play that content as originally purcahsed as it was fully licensed when I bought it... There is no justification for taking away something that I paid for just because they don't want to support.....
@Koalawithsixstrings
@Koalawithsixstrings 5 месяцев назад
@@steveramundo4946 You still own it but other just can't buy it
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
@@steveramundo4946 well the game is still available to anyone who paid for it before it was delisted. It’s just no longer available for purchase
@BBoySnakeDogG
@BBoySnakeDogG 5 месяцев назад
Pirating old games is completely ethical in scenarios like this.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
I think there are more clear cut cases but also ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@that_camo_bronco_guy
@that_camo_bronco_guy 5 месяцев назад
A perfect example (if it wasn't online only which raises another argument for game preservation) is the crew, I loved that game, I however do not like the crew 2, but now I have to buy it again (no longer have a Xbox) just to get a similar experience
@jakeford12
@jakeford12 5 месяцев назад
Yes, that is true. Personally I do purchase a physical copy of a game if I can, I normally only download old game builds that have been found for the most part.
@danniboi7490
@danniboi7490 5 месяцев назад
Piracy is ethical either way in my opinion
@dantedierdre4297
@dantedierdre4297 5 месяцев назад
Amen brother. I sail the high seas for everything i possibly can​@@danniboi7490
@u1richh
@u1richh 5 месяцев назад
This is why I support physical media, among other things. Can't delist a physical copy of a game, movie, or album.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Ding ding ding 🛎️
@spidi500
@spidi500 5 месяцев назад
Actually they can if they want to, they can prevent you from playing the media by software restriction, like recognising which game you just put in the console and having a blacklist built into the OS itself with the game IDs they don't want you to play... the only real way to own your game is to "sail the seven seas", because then there is no DRM interaction of any sort. I am not trying to advocate for those practices, but that is just the reality, and i'll tell it the way it is.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Dang, that's hardcore honestly
@pixeldubsofficial
@pixeldubsofficial 5 месяцев назад
​@@spidi500If they do that, I hope the law in all countries lets the company be sued.
@spidi500
@spidi500 5 месяцев назад
@@pixeldubsofficial there are no laws against companies taking your existing software as of now, it's kind of the reason companies are even "sunsetting" (as they like to call it) these games
@hi_its_jerry
@hi_its_jerry 5 месяцев назад
the first horizon is truly a time capsule to the early 2010s. i currently have it on my modded 360 and i absolutely love it.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
💯
@SuperFlashDriver
@SuperFlashDriver 5 месяцев назад
Ahh yeah, much like Call Of Duty World At War & Black Ops 1. But to be honest, the 2005 Xbox menu layout is truly the best time capsule in terms of menu looks (compared to the 2007/2008 overhaul, and the ugly 2011/2012 look that's currently on the 360 to this very day).
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
@@SuperFlashDriver yeah the latest one is not great
@SuperFlashDriver
@SuperFlashDriver 5 месяцев назад
@@brentsacks Yeah. I never played any of the forza horizon games as the last game I truly loved the most was Need For Speed Hot Pursuit 2 for the PS2. Pretty much after that game racing started to become stale and more about customization and car licensing than just fun courses and actual mayhem hot pursuits and such.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
@@SuperFlashDriver if you haven’t played them, it sounds like you might enjoy Driver San Francisco or Burnout Paradise!!
@parker73724
@parker73724 5 месяцев назад
Forza horizon 1 has the best music, the best cars, the best progression system, the best dialogue, the best handling, and the best story. Not to hate on the new titles but this one did a lot better.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
The handling?? I'm very curious now!
@parker73724
@parker73724 5 месяцев назад
@@brentsacks the first one definitely has a more simplistic handling model but I think it's more fun and less extremely easy compared to the new ones.
@fifteen8850
@fifteen8850 5 месяцев назад
Hard disagree with the car selection. The newest entry has the most diverse and best imo
@parker73724
@parker73724 5 месяцев назад
@@fifteen8850 Yeah, I meant to say progression but I said car with that as well. I mean you're a lot more attached to your cars in that game because it doesn't just throw things at you. Also engine audio is a lot better.
@JROCK50054
@JROCK50054 5 месяцев назад
FH1 & 2 were definitely the best Horizon games, and the rest are not that close imo.
@Nattieboop
@Nattieboop 5 месяцев назад
I was fortunate to get this game as a free gratuity after playtesting it for Microsoft. Such a sweet deal as a kid. Although I consider Forza Motorsport 2 as one of my all-time favorite games Forza Horizon 1 is probably the most solid, well-rounded the series has ever been. Fantastic video! Keep up the good work!
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
That's so cool! I feel like that's a kid's dream come true. Thank you for watching and for your kind words 🥹
@SimTrackDays
@SimTrackDays 5 месяцев назад
Forza Motorsport 2 was my all-time favourite too, (even grabbed the Limited Collector's Edition & still have it & my 360, with wheel set). All Gold All Race Types & i did it the hard way, I spent hrs & hrs completing everything with gold trophies; "I was a pro lol", good times good memories..
@TeamLuxzGaming
@TeamLuxzGaming 5 месяцев назад
@@brentsacksas a kid I abused covid to buy and beat every forza horizon game 1, 3,4 (x4),5 almost finished 2 and fm7
@L19htning
@L19htning 5 месяцев назад
you play tested it!?!?!??! I am so jealous... I love FH1. Literally my childhood game.
@Slimehardtshawty
@Slimehardtshawty 5 месяцев назад
Motorsport 3 and Horizon 1 just fill me with nostalgia
@KOKEE_MEDIA02
@KOKEE_MEDIA02 5 месяцев назад
I bought this game like 2 months ago on my birthday XD guess i pulled the trigger just in time i missed playing it and bought it literally 2 days after I saw it at a gamestop
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
GOOD!! Physical ownership is better anyway. (In my opinion.)
@KOKEE_MEDIA02
@KOKEE_MEDIA02 5 месяцев назад
@@brentsacks yeah I bought the disc itself
@gowen_places_5471
@gowen_places_5471 5 месяцев назад
you can still buy used copies at gamestop and other retailers this video does not apply to second hand
@KOKEE_MEDIA02
@KOKEE_MEDIA02 5 месяцев назад
@@gowen_places_5471 That's true, my copy looked new it didn't have scratches on it from what I can recall
@xa-1248
@xa-1248 5 месяцев назад
The thing that makes the map more enjoyable than the latest installments is that you HAVE to use the roads and cant just plow straight across the map or fast travel everywhere. I know it seems counter intuitive at first to say a "less free" map is more fun but it realy is a lot more fun to me having a more restircted map with tight and twisted roads than the huge flat map with a bunch of nothing made for the elimiator.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
This makes a ton of sense
@corvettezone1771
@corvettezone1771 5 месяцев назад
That’s probably the reason why (for me at least) FH5 just feels dead compared to most other racing games when I play it. There’s *so much* space.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Yes. Small, detailed, packed open worlds are better than large, desolate ones!!
@JGmoney88
@JGmoney88 5 месяцев назад
I’ll say the scale is really good for really long high speed broad drifts around corners and hairpins. I love the mountain because it feels like Tail of the Dragon in North Carolina
@xa-1248
@xa-1248 5 месяцев назад
@@JGmoney88 thb its still way too wide.
@laytonlemay1223
@laytonlemay1223 5 месяцев назад
Bro I’m an OG since horizon 1. I feel in love with it instantly. Watching these roads and looking at that map…Holay it’s been a while😢
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Time to boot it up!
@FifteenthApollo
@FifteenthApollo Месяц назад
I discovered it summer 2013 and it was my first real racing games, loved Forza ever since. I'm itchy and only the original Horizon can scratch me... :D
@BlueShift2000
@BlueShift2000 5 месяцев назад
FM 4 and FH1 where goat. And the second and third installment of FH were also awesome. And please don't call FM a true simulation racer. That would be saying a SUV is a Hypercar. The term Sim-Cade suits it better.
@fifteen8850
@fifteen8850 5 месяцев назад
That’s a mega stretch of a comparison. I’d say it’s like calling the Aventador a hypercar (its a supercar)
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
I know people out there think FM is not a hardcore racing sim, but it's the hardest core one I've ever played 😂
@JROCK50054
@JROCK50054 5 месяцев назад
​@@fifteen8850And they still classify the Aventador as a hypercar for some reason in Forza Horizon. It has always bothered me.
@fifteen8850
@fifteen8850 5 месяцев назад
@@JROCK50054 that’s true lol
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Yeah def not a hypercar
@Litl_Skitl
@Litl_Skitl 5 месяцев назад
The thing I missed most from this game is the vibe. Like most of the features you mentioned are also in the later titles, except for the class rivals and the banter between radio stations. In the later games you start out as the owner of the festival and a well known driver, you've won as soon as you open the game. Starting FH1 is like NFS MW where you're the underdog making it through the ranks. Saw a video where they put all the intro's from the games side-by-side, and you can immediately see how different 1 feels from all the others.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Not making you start out as an underdog is such a weird choice. I’m so curious to try the other ones and see what I make of it
@kecskekecske9643
@kecskekecske9643 5 месяцев назад
The things i would do to get a proper remake of this game, imagine just the tuning feature and customisation in this game. It needs nothing else.
@jamesharden3timedpoy466
@jamesharden3timedpoy466 5 месяцев назад
Thankfully I can still play this game. It’s just a vibe that you can’t beat.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Amen
@ISAK.M
@ISAK.M 5 месяцев назад
This was a well done video even tho u had not even played 2, 3, 4 and 5. Subbed
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Thank you 🙏🏻
@opissinatti
@opissinatti 5 месяцев назад
The first Horizon is a masterpiece! I’m still playing it today, excellent video by the way!
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Thank you!!
@haaxxx9
@haaxxx9 5 месяцев назад
6:41 - The sense of speed is so damn scary that I miss the most from modern racing games. The other games that come close to this is NFS Pro-street/Shift(s), Driveclub, Midnight Club L.A, Project Gotham Racing 4, GT6 (Going around corners as fast as possible), Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune, and Forza Motorsport 4. Now newer racing games have a dull sense of speed that I look at it and just see it as kind of boring... Worse case by this is the newer Forza Horizon games where FH5 maybe have the worst sense of speed that I have ever seen in a racing game due to having a longer running franchise and hitting over 300 mph just feels like going 130 mph in the older forza games... Is those little details in these older games that what makes it more than a video game, as cheesy as that sounds. Fantastic video! I wish more people like you appreciate older racing games from a handful of people do even if they are not really into it.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Appreciate it!!
@davethebaron
@davethebaron 5 месяцев назад
They should've kept the older titles on sale.
@judgedrekk2981
@judgedrekk2981 2 месяца назад
buy the discs! assuming you have X1 or X series...
@L19htning
@L19htning 5 месяцев назад
This is my childhood playing this game. Love you enjoyed it allot. Thanks for making this video made me really happy.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Ugh, this is the best. I’m stoked you liked the video. I hope it did the game justice 😌😌
@weltvonoben
@weltvonoben 5 месяцев назад
Miss the drift meets at eagle ridge and Red Rock
@megadeth5840
@megadeth5840 3 месяца назад
Real talk
@sowsow6677
@sowsow6677 4 месяца назад
i still have it, it was the first video game i ever played in my life. Came with my xbox 360
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 4 месяца назад
How old were you??
@ausernamed
@ausernamed 5 месяцев назад
I'd like to mention the Project Gotham Racing franchise, another Microsoft/Xbox IP, those games look beautiful for their time in my opinion!!
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
I never played those! But I hear good things from people who played them. I might have to look into those
@azzrus2499
@azzrus2499 5 месяцев назад
A big issue of horizon 5 for me was that i felt like there was a lack of progression, i was young when the first game released and i miss the wristband system and unlocking things over time. In the new games you start with great cars and it doesn’t feel as satisfying when you buy something new that you wanted. Also i miss the feeling of horizon as a festival, idk if it’s just me but the festival atmosphere seems gone.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
You have a lot more perspective than me on this, so I love hearing about the differences. This is why I enjoy playing franchises through sequentially. Sometimes you think, "Dang! This is awesome! They improved so much." Other times you think, "What were they doing?? Why did you get worse?!"
@fifteen8850
@fifteen8850 5 месяцев назад
I don’t think the festival atmosphere is lost whatsoever. If anything, there’s multiple festival locations throughout fh5. I do agree with the “lack of progression”, but I think it works well for people that have a live outside of gaming.
@jaydenscholten6164
@jaydenscholten6164 5 месяцев назад
i think the main thing that causes the loss of festival feel is that there is less focus on the festival aspect. another thing i very much miss in the new installments are the sponsors and their challenges​@@fifteen8850
@corvettezone1771
@corvettezone1771 5 месяцев назад
The last time I played it, it just felt empty and dead. I think I probably only put in like 50 hours until I had just about everything I wanted. I never cared for the races because they didn’t actually interest me, the cars that I wanted didn’t have enough customization and the only thing about FH5 that stood out to me were the graphics. FH4 got more time out of me than 5, FH3 was my absolute favourite.
@turbochargedfilms
@turbochargedfilms 5 месяцев назад
@@fifteen8850 the festival atmosphere definitely became a lot more genericized from FH2-3 onwards. It's not that the overall celebratory feeling was lost, but rather that instead of focusing on actual music festival culture, it became a washed-out corpocratic view of a "festival" with no real intent or soul behind it. If you've ever been to an actual music festival, you'll know that just having multiple stages doesn't mean shit towards whether its an actual good time or not. But then if you had experienced that, you wouldn't be saying something so incredibly naive and dumb here.
@manoverbord1231
@manoverbord1231 5 месяцев назад
I agree it’s getting real board driving around Mexico
@kevinhendley8524
@kevinhendley8524 5 месяцев назад
FH1 was special. A dynamic map that wasn’t crazy big. Car list was great, and music was memorable
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Exactly!
@galacticalliance4801
@galacticalliance4801 Месяц назад
I still have a physical copy, when i was a kid i loved racing games but as i started to get older i moved onto shooters and general open world games. Playing this game with my dad is what got me back into racing games and into cars again which now i am an enthusiast irl and couldn't be happier about the direction things went. The devs for forza horizon might have made a lot of mistakes over the years but I've never had more fun in any other open world racing games as I have in the horizon series and it has a special place in my heart for keeping me interested in cars and racing over the years.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks Месяц назад
🥹🥹🥹
@Chavez96PR
@Chavez96PR 5 месяцев назад
I don't usually comment but your videos are so well made keep it up looking forward to see the channel grow about the game I have it still whit the Rally DLC which is awesome.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
The rally DLC sounds so fun! And this is such a nice comment, thank you so much. I put a lot of work into my videos, so it's nice to be noticed!! 🥹
@UND3RD0NE
@UND3RD0NE 5 месяцев назад
I remember playing the game on the 360 wenn I was 9 or 10 and to this day every time I hear a song that was played in the in game radio I get flash backs And u forgot to mention the most funny lines from the radio announcer I hope u have heard wenn u played the game And great video brought back memories 👍
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Thank you 🙏🏻
@DragonWarZ
@DragonWarZ 5 месяцев назад
My friend I also do care about photo mode in games , i like to capture the moments of the game , and I can say that in forza horizon series , forza horizon 5 have done the great job in photo mode , but the photo mode is not quick enough in FH5 , you need to click pic then save it , a long process , but although it's a good experience.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Yeah I’m waiting for them to ditch this system. Seems like a relic from the age where consoles didn’t have a system capture feature.
@EnergyCEL100
@EnergyCEL100 3 дня назад
3:40 "such as the clouds drifting by-why is that minivan going 350 miles per hour?!?!"
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 3 дня назад
😂
@JaybeeF12
@JaybeeF12 5 месяцев назад
FH5 just introduced a "back to the past Forza Horizon 1" sorta story... and I can't help thinking to myself, why should I be nostalgic for a game that doesn't exist?
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Are you doing a bit about how I said FH is extinct?
@Ppman
@Ppman 2 дня назад
Core childhood game for me personally, and criminally underrated. This game executed the atmosphere and story so well. I’ve heard some people say the dialogue is a bit cheesy but to me, it reminds me of an old sports film with clunky dialogue which clearly had a ton of love poured into it. The game is a freaking time capsule to 2012. The new games are technically impressive, but they don’t even come close to capturing the essence of the Horizon festival.
@MrAaronb400
@MrAaronb400 5 месяцев назад
Didnt have a cringey storyline and the music was the best on this. Had a nice atmosphere to it even if the map is a little small when going back to it from others. Id say they got worse but they are all really good games as a whole.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
I own 1-4 still, and I really want to keep going through the series. Might have to hit 2 soon.
@MrAaronb400
@MrAaronb400 5 месяцев назад
@brentsacks I just feel that once I hit fh3 it was missing something and I can't quite pinpoint it. Fh1 had a story sort of but it ended up being a touch cringe. In terms of fm games, forza motorsport 4 was amazing. Ruined that series from fm5 and infection on fm4 was pure fun compared to the airport track.
@JTread2003
@JTread2003 3 месяца назад
Its crazy how good this game looks and it was on the 360
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 3 месяца назад
Seriously impressive
@FatalAphid
@FatalAphid 5 месяцев назад
I totally agree! Something needs to be changed or we will end up not really owning any digital media. GOG on PC is a good DRM free store but it has a limited number of games and the cost of the device to factor in can get expensive. FH1 is still my favorite in the franchise. Great video!
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
DRM free? I’ve never heard of such a thing! Is it just indie games? Thank you!
@Ktotokroto
@Ktotokroto 5 месяцев назад
​@@brentsacksNot always indie. But selection is still limited. I believe games like Witcher or Cyberpunk are on GoG, for example
@arkhalis3682
@arkhalis3682 5 месяцев назад
​@@Ktotokroto Sony's PC ports are also DRM-free, the few there are. I don't like Sony but I do respect them a shitton for not implementing DRMs in the PC ports of their games.
@Austindogftw
@Austindogftw 5 месяцев назад
I still have my copy's of the first three Horizon games on disc. My disc for Forza Horizon 1 is about 8 years old now.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Outstanding 👏🏻
@MaiderGoku
@MaiderGoku 5 месяцев назад
Wait till you hear about Xenia Emulator
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Sure, you can emulate all sorts of games, but the percentage of people out there who emulate games vs. the amount who use Game Pass or buy on the digital storefront is extremely small.
@MaiderGoku
@MaiderGoku 5 месяцев назад
@@brentsacks Depends on your source. People who buy on gamepass or digital storefront is less compared to the Emulation and Physically release scene for Forza Horizon 1&2. It's just that you're exposed to only surface web scene. Also if look at dark web scene there's 5x the number of downloads.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
I’m just talking about your typical gamer, or even some pretty dedicated gamers, may go their whole lives without ever learning about or using an emulator. For people out there who gripe about game preservation (like me), we’re usually talking about the above-board methods. If you’re talking legal ways to play Forza Horizon, you need to own a copy, including if you’re emulating it. I understand you don’t need to own it to emulate it, but you do if you’re doing it legally! And whichever way you slice it, it is hard to do now because it’s been delisted. And that’s a shame
@r34ztune11
@r34ztune11 5 месяцев назад
@@brentsacksDefine legally. Different countries have different laws regarding this stuff. I emulate FM4 and FH1 on my PC and nobody is ever going to knock on my door to check if I'm obeying copyright laws or not. My country only deems it illegal if I create copies of the content and sell it for my own profit. Fact is, I didn't have an Xbox when this game was legally obtainable, so nowadays this really is my best option. Even if I spent money or a real Xbox 360 and a copy of these games, I'd be giving money to random strangers, not the people holding the rights to this content. If you care about game preservation, you have to realize that sticking to copyright laws will never work. If it weren't for online "outlaws" like me and others, this content would eventually vanish as original disks suffer from bit rot and the games can't be downloaded from storefronts anymore. I am not going to let some arguably terrible law that seeks to limit the spread of information stop me from enjoying games I couldn't enjoy decades ago and nobody should.
@Disillusioned2022
@Disillusioned2022 26 дней назад
Game dev here. We recommend going to the high seas. You can get ALL DLC and a copy of the game is yours forever.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 25 дней назад
@@Disillusioned2022 🤐🏴‍☠️
@spaceonix_5882
@spaceonix_5882 5 месяцев назад
It had the best atmosphere and story. The roads felt real with their imperfections. The map had diversity and the road placement felt convincing. The car selection was good for 2012 and the sounds are as good or better than today. I find myself playing the original more that the other 4 combined. This game is a gateway to a better time.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
On the one hand, this makes me really happy that 1 is so good. On the other hand, it bums me out that maybe I'll play the rest of them and not think they're as good 😢
@fifteen8850
@fifteen8850 5 месяцев назад
@@brentsacksnah, they’re good imo. Overall just play it and form your own opinion about it.
@kimsoo16
@kimsoo16 5 месяцев назад
I really wanted those dlc's man😢😔
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
😩
@benji-menji
@benji-menji Месяц назад
Either the industry needs a way to make games currently non-distributed available without asking the publisher, or Microsoft needs to create new licenses that can be profitable in low sales volumes for all parties. Hope we can get the ladder, but the former would be significantly harder and making enemies while being very progressive.
@Xaevryn
@Xaevryn Месяц назад
I never played FH2 but just looking at it I think I like the progression system a lot more. I did play FH3, 4, and 5. 3 was pretty good. But 4 and 5 treat you like you are some sort of messiah and you are the most super special here's all the free hypercars with maxed out stats right from the get-go. I don't feel like I earned anything. Everything, cars and money, are given to me in such ridiculous amounts that the amount of money you get from racing seems absolutely paltry. I want to earn it. I want to be the no-name participant that slowly works his way up to being the best. I want to start off with the entry level wrist band and the slow cars before showing up to the next level of racing with a car I bought and paid for with my off-the-books street racing. Instead every time I log in to FH5 something new and over the top is just thrown in my face. To be honest it feels condescending. I feel disrespected as if I'm being treated as some drooling idiot child. "Awwww here comes little Xaeby here you go fucker a new Ferrari go away"
@brentsacks
@brentsacks Месяц назад
Though I haven’t experienced this yet myself, I totally see where you’re coming from. This sounds frustrating and the opposite of rewarding. You have to earn a reward. Otherwise it feels cheap. The joy of the McLaren or the Ferrari isn’t just driving the amazing car, it’s also comparing it to the less powerful cars you had to get familiar with on your way up the food chain and soaking in how much they improve on the foundation.
@hemangchauhan2864
@hemangchauhan2864 15 дней назад
To clarify, *DRM is a measure where owners (companies) monitor if users (us) is using the product/service without messing up the rights (ie control of owner).* This comes through anti tampering software for software and game products to stop them from cracking. Current famous DRM is Denuvo, used in big PC and now even console games. Is DRM illegal? No. Is DRM wrong? In many ways, yes. It can affect playability (SecuROM had hardware install limits; Denuvo games can not be activated without internet connection, games will die once their server goes offline). Cracking them after some point in time is important, because companies rarely care if games die,
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 14 дней назад
@@hemangchauhan2864 indeed-see pinned comment!
@Lucky_9705
@Lucky_9705 5 месяцев назад
I grew up on this game and had it on my 360. I unfortunately bumped into the console one day and the entire disc scratched inside the console, so I couldn’t play it anymore. But I thankfully found another copy and replayed through the entire campaign and finally beat it.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Fantastic 👏🏻 worth it
@godchi1dvonsteuben770
@godchi1dvonsteuben770 5 месяцев назад
@6:55 Yeah, watching the in cockpit view, and all the lush scenery, if you like this game, look up Car X; Highway Racing. Not quite as big a game, but if you love this, you'll enjoy Car X.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
I’ll look into it!
@MakeStationWagonsGreatAgain
@MakeStationWagonsGreatAgain 5 месяцев назад
I was luckily able to buy the original gold bundle of forza 3&4 when I did... theres no signs anywhere of a digial release
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Good 👏🏻
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Also I just noticed your username. I love this so much. Have a cookie 🍪
@ShawnSig
@ShawnSig Месяц назад
I wish they didn't kill off the servers for the older Xbox One Forza Games. Forza Horizon 2, Motorsport 5 & 6 servers went offline in 2022 I believe, without a warning. When people would contact the Forza support page, they would just give a copy/paste message, "Oh, we don't support legacy titles". Then they announced a server shutdown for Forza Horizon 2 on 360 & Xbox One, but the servers were already offline.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks Месяц назад
Wow I actually didn’t know this. This bums me out. I had a blast playing FM5 and 6 online
@Jessicaa17378
@Jessicaa17378 5 месяцев назад
I have all of the Horizon games, but Horizon 1 is the one that I always come back to, the music, the car list, the setting was all executed perfectly, and the handling model makes just about anything fun to drive around in, and yes, the photo mode thing is annoying :)
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Very interested to track how I feel about the games as I go along!
@JacquelineLanceTenor
@JacquelineLanceTenor 5 месяцев назад
I was a senior in HS when this came out and I absolutely LOVED this game. I'm glad I was lucky enough to be able to play all of the Horizon games when they were new.
@BmikroB
@BmikroB 3 месяца назад
FH1 still remains my favorite Horizon. It just has the best mix of presentation quality, music, festival setting & vibes, handling & driving physics, and of course its gameplay loop, and career progression. Yes, sequels improve on many things here and there (mostly visuals), but nothing else could capture & hold my excitement to the levels this game had. Oh, and about that screenshot/photo mode feature that you mentioned, it's a real shame its high quality render counterpart was server-dependent, and not local thus it's not available anymore. I don't remember actual megapixel count (shown on HUD display in photo mode), but I remember the 0.9 MP would return a 720p jpeg picture momentarily, while the other option would return a whopping 4k image but through a painfully slow upload to your 'Gallery' on the game site instead, where it would create a link in your gallery that is ready for download (and AFAIR there also was a time limit for you to actually grab that sweet sweet 4k png image to your drive through a - guess what - painfully slow download). UPD: I looked it up, and it was 8.3 megapixel 'Big Shot' thing. Yeah, I remember I was obsessed with Big Shots in Forza Motorsport 4 where it provided super clean, super detailed images with no issues or graphics errors whatsoever, and I absolutely loved to grab those, take 'em into Photoshop or Lightroom, and edit them, adding effects, etc. etc. The photography was a huge part of why I loved the Forza series, it still is but not to the same extent anymore. Although in some of my pictures the 4k output would somehow introduce graphics bugs & glitches whereas a standard definition 720p image wouldn't (like missing background foliage, or something).
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 3 месяца назад
Wow you went hardcore on the screenshots! Do you do any photo mode stuff with other games? I went crazy with Spider-Man and Ghost of Tsushima
@FordMustangYT
@FordMustangYT 5 месяцев назад
I had so many memories playing FH 1, FH 3, and FM 6. They were great games with lots to do. I stopped playing Xbox when I got older, but dang I sure did had fun with it! If only the newer games were the same.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
So many memories 🥹
@TheOnlyFalcon17
@TheOnlyFalcon17 5 месяцев назад
I’m a fellow like you I still have the physical copy and play this game on my Series X here and there. This is a game that deserves a PC port and a remake. Imagine this game to freely roam off road since FH2 was the intro to roam off road freely. For a game that first released on 360 at the tail end of its life cycle in 2012 it still holds up great!
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Holds up so well!! Off-road roaming sounds fun!
@janusmarais7580
@janusmarais7580 5 месяцев назад
Forza Horizon 1 is most likely the most influential game in my life, a big part of why Im studying mechanical engineering is because the upgrade system in the game made my 12 year old mind realise how much I like the idea of improving/studying a machine. Played 1-4 but stopped playing games mostly by the time 5 came around so havent played it yet
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
This is incredible!! I love this!
@007Spadge
@007Spadge 5 месяцев назад
Forza Horizon 1 to 3 were the best. 1 being the most atmospheric and magic. With 4 the series started dropping off. Also, don't show too much footage of final missions in the video, I imagine this video will motivate some people to buy and try the game, let them discover it by themselves.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
1) It's a racing game...not a lot to spoil 2) I only had my capture card on hand for about 1/4 of the total time I played the game. So unfortunately, there is a lot that I did that wasn't captured. I had to make do with what I had
@007Spadge
@007Spadge 5 месяцев назад
@@brentsacks I get you, but there are some key moments I would have left off personally. Either way, good to see concise videos on FH1, like i said, hopefully some people will be motivated to pick up the disk and discover it themselves. Such an atmospheric game. I can also recommend 2 and 3. Nothing can rival the artistic direction of the original, but they build on the concept very nicely.
@nightowl3582
@nightowl3582 4 месяца назад
I still have my physical copy. Love this game. Played a lot of this one and Horizon 4.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 4 месяца назад
Good! 👏🏻
@galaxyt.hedgehog8667
@galaxyt.hedgehog8667 19 дней назад
The Forza 4 title screen music gives me waves of nastolga.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 19 дней назад
I haven’t experienced it, but I want to!
@joshjmilli
@joshjmilli 5 месяцев назад
I’m so glad I have a copy. I’m wagering that if this game never gets a remaster, prices of physical copies are going to go through the roof in a few years
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
I have a feeling you’re right
@MacCalloom
@MacCalloom Месяц назад
Forza Motorsport 4 and forza horizon are my childhood
@texsion
@texsion 2 месяца назад
I remember as a kid looking up open world games because there was a lack of them (that were PG at least) so I looked up on my iPad open world games and I saw this game and downloaded it, and even though I was disappointed it wasn’t open world where you could get out your car and walk around I still fell in love with the game and played it allll the time. Ever since buying that game I’ve got all the forzas even though I don’t play them as much
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 2 месяца назад
Love this. GTA could scratch that itch! 😂
@tigermendez6323
@tigermendez6323 2 месяца назад
Dude. That beep was way too loud considering the audio level of the rest of the video. I had my volume pretty quiet, playing of my speakers but that scared the s*** out of me.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 2 месяца назад
Sorry 😕
@santinosalamanca4378
@santinosalamanca4378 3 месяца назад
As someone who started playing forza in 2019, I would have loved to play FH1 and FH2 (and FH3's DLCs). Sadly, licenses/copyright is a thing.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 3 месяца назад
A shame 😤
@vitamc1213
@vitamc1213 5 месяцев назад
If anyone wants to know the law behind this. Licences refer to a 'licence to copy and reproduce' the automakers' badge and car design. Copying a 3D car design, even from a 2D plan, in digital form is a breach of copyright without a licence. Therefore, the developers are required, in order to not breach copyright, to ensure that they have a valid licence to make such copies. The fact is though, if the automaker wished, they could licence the names and designs out, for this very specific purpose of gaming, for free in contract.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Ah, but why do it for free when you can make money?? 🤑
@sssveden
@sssveden 4 месяца назад
FH1 is the Most Wanted 2005 of Forza Horizon for me. Both perfect games with perfect vibe and a lot of passion and soul behind them
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 4 месяца назад
I haven’t played Most Wanted but people speak very highly of it
@AddictionToTea
@AddictionToTea 4 месяца назад
I still play this game 12 years later. Ive got all the forza horizons and, despite having “premium” versions of the last two games, nothing in the series beats the sheer atmosphere and the setting of the first instalment, alongside one of the best songs list and overall festival feel, which in the current titles of the series is close to absent. The only thing i dislike is the inability to get the dlcs for first three games, because those are also a big part of a game in the horizon series in particular, but also, a painful tendency for turn 10 to take down after a couple of years with the discontinuation of an older title in the series. What is most paining is that those same dlcs, while delisted from the store, which means no way to get them anymore, are advertised all over the main game, which is triple the frustration for me.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 4 месяца назад
Yes, I greatly wished I could try the Rally DLC in this one because it was advertised on the menus 😭 Glad you are also a big fan though!
@adm1307
@adm1307 5 месяцев назад
Amazing video man! Hope to see more similar videos in the future
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Thank you! I’m a slow producer but there will be more
@Momo4060i
@Momo4060i 4 месяца назад
The game was free on games with gold years ago. I can still enjoy it in glorious 4k on Series X.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 4 месяца назад
Yes yes yes!!!
@project_g6215
@project_g6215 5 месяцев назад
Anytime I play this game I get instantly transported to my childhood
@Harrock
@Harrock 5 месяцев назад
Forza Horizon 1 is just magical ! The World . The Most wanted type gameplay, that you actually have to work yourself up through the Classes . Fight against the Rival ! That is motivation ! In new FH you get a ton of Free cars and money that can be fun but looses all motivation for the grind ... not only forces you the game to drive races in all Classes instead of the new one where you take the best Car in R2 or R3 and boom wineverything but also makes you enjoy the "slower cars" ... the music is also fire ! But thats through the whole series .... and again i love Colorado , the pine woods in the mountains gives some Twin Peaks/LiS vibes . Oh and the Radio commentators . That comments on the progress and other Rical drivers who got Voice actors .... that just makes the World feel alive
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
It’s so well realized!!
@unnamedracer9757
@unnamedracer9757 5 месяцев назад
There were also two DLCs for the original Horizon, the rally expansion, and the 1000 club expansion. Occasionally, you might be able to find a digital code for the rally expansion that works, but the 1000 club expansion was free and cannot be obtained at all, at least not by legit means. The rally expansion is absolutely incredible, it very much feels like dirt 4 with Forza Horizon physics.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
The Rally one sounds like a freaking blast
@Mr_Rexyy
@Mr_Rexyy 2 месяца назад
The green Prosche looks perfect.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 2 месяца назад
Can’t believe it’s 12 years old
@louischapman7290
@louischapman7290 5 месяцев назад
the online had such a community i miss it so much also the console mods where you could drive a glowing bus and the glowing paintjob. forza horizon 3 was the last game that felt like horizon made a ton of friends along the way too we used to insult eachother while dragracing and cruise around miss the sewnse of community these games had, u missed out bro
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Sounds like the glory days tbh
@GasolineGuy
@GasolineGuy 5 месяцев назад
i played the first forza horizon on xbox 360, it was such a good game.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
You talking Horizon or Motorsport?
@GasolineGuy
@GasolineGuy 5 месяцев назад
@@brentsacks horizon but i do have motorsport 3 on 360 too if that counts for something. i should probably edit my comment
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Love it 🙏🏻
@GusMix79
@GusMix79 5 месяцев назад
Everything feels meaningful and fits the festival theme. I love the little Race Sign Up spots. It feels like there is something not just dumb floating markers in thin air. This is exactly what makes the modern Horizon games so bad. Nothing feels meaningful and everything is cringe, boring and not about the Horizon Festival anymore. The first game is the most gorgeous and best Horizon game ever. 2nd is good as well. After the third everything went downhill.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Still bummed that people feel this way but I’m very happy with 1!! I’ll definitely make videos about the others as I play them
@shaunthefriendlylesbian2950
@shaunthefriendlylesbian2950 5 месяцев назад
I'm glad you were able to finish the video considering you've been writing this since 2022, hope you feel the effort was worth it! Very good video
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
HAHA well to be fair, I wrote the notes and script when I played it in ‘22 and then sat on the footage and didn’t do anything with it. So it didn’t take me a year and a half to make it, but I waited a year and a half 😂
@shaunthefriendlylesbian2950
@shaunthefriendlylesbian2950 5 месяцев назад
@@brentsacks ah I see, just a tad different then hahaha! But still a great video man, it's very much a subject I'm interested in and seems to be doing quite well
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
It is doing scarily well?? No joke, I almost didn't make this video. I pretty much said, "It'll get 500 views, but it'll be good practice." How wrong I was.
@shaunthefriendlylesbian2950
@shaunthefriendlylesbian2950 5 месяцев назад
@@brentsacksHow wrong you were indeed! Was looking at your other stuff too and I'm glad to see you're a fan of Mirror's edge too, I'll most likely spam your vids and you seem really chill, so you've definitely earned a keen sub! You've got this man
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Ahhh thank you so much 😭
@gatsbysgarage8389
@gatsbysgarage8389 4 месяца назад
I’ve played a bit of the first two games, but fh3 will always be my favorite. The hot wheels dlc, the airstrip “drag strip”, Goliath race, just a beautiful game
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 4 месяца назад
I am eager to play 3. Australia is an amazing setting for an open world driving game
@TheDanteBoots
@TheDanteBoots Месяц назад
Why do they sign licencing contracts that expire? couldn't they just pay something equivalent to royalty's on each copy sold?
@brentsacks
@brentsacks Месяц назад
Great question and I have no idea. But I like that idea
@KIDInuyasha96
@KIDInuyasha96 5 месяцев назад
The first horizon is still my favorite out of the series. The music, the vibes, the location and the racing was fantastic. I've had alot of epic moments racing in this game and i never got to play it online. I've had the AI do some insane things during races. I've got them clipped somewhere.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
It’s so spot on 👏🏻
@k.r.99
@k.r.99 5 месяцев назад
After finishing FH2 the last two years, i only recently started FH1 and was shocked at how much i enjoy it despite its depressing look (always yellowish/dull and same look, due to hardware limitation and style choices of course). Even with the servers being offline,i often find 1 or 2 people in orivate lobbys 😳
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Private lobbies! No kidding!
@RetroGamerr1991
@RetroGamerr1991 5 месяцев назад
The one and only objective gripe I have with the Horizon series is that they make the roads too wide on purpose to make driving easier. The issue with that is it makes any thing lower than A-Class completely unenjoyable to drive on even the twistiest road. There's a reason you see more Miatas and MR2s around stuff like Tail of the Dragon than you do around VIR or Road Atlanta. Not because track days are more expensive but because most people would rather drive briskly on a narrow twisty road at 6/10 of the limit than to be blasting down a straight with their foot completely to the floor to only be doing 100mph by the end of it. It's what arguably made Test Drive Unlimited so long lasting. Even the slow cars were fun and challenging on the narrow mountain road of Oahu.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
This is spot on, and I’ve actually heard the wide road critique before. It makes a lot of sense. I owned a Miata for a quick six months (too quick) and found it a blast to drive at slow speeds. A Miata makes you feel like you’re going faster than you are. My next car was a BMW 130i, which made you feel like you were going slower than you were. It wanted to be driven fast. Which is good, and fun, but it’s harder to keep the car reeled in.
@RetroGamerr1991
@RetroGamerr1991 5 месяцев назад
@@brentsacks Oh hell yeah what year? I have a 97 base that I've been slowly turning into what my ideal peak Miata is. power steering, no AC, manual windows and mirrors, LSD, frame rails with butterfly brace, delrin door bushings, frog arms, OEM Hollowspokes and some nice sticky Dunlop Direzza ZZIIIs. I've had this thing for a decade now and it's the best car I've ever owned by a long shot
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
@@RetroGamerr1991 Mine was an '06 GT model--about the cushiest Miata ever made according to fans lol. I had a great time with it, but I understand diehard fans think the NC generation was a little off
@RetroGamerr1991
@RetroGamerr1991 5 месяцев назад
@@brentsacks The NC gets undeserved hate mainly because it was not developed as the sole model for the platform. It shares a lot of underpinnings with the RX8 because Mazda was under pretty deep budget restrictions. That being said it's the most dailyable of all of them especially because they don't rust.
@ryutenmen
@ryutenmen 5 месяцев назад
This game was only released on Xbox 360 and no mention of it whatsoever, especially since the narator mentioned many times how good it looks.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
It’s an Xbox 360 game, but you can play it on any Xbox made since, including the current most powerful console in the world, which is how I played it
@ryutenmen
@ryutenmen 5 месяцев назад
@@brentsacks sure, I get that, it's just that the rationale "is such a great game and it looks so good for a Xbox 360 game, even when played on Xbox Series" should make a complete sense. This is how it makes sense for me.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
@@ryutenmen I never played the game on the original hardware, but I’m just stoked that a 12 year old game looks this good even if it’s been enhanced. You can increase the resolution on a game that looks bad, and it will still look bad 😂
@JOSHHARRIS-v3w
@JOSHHARRIS-v3w Месяц назад
200mph in horizon 1 felt like light speed
@brentsacks
@brentsacks Месяц назад
It does 😂
@rolon-ew5kl
@rolon-ew5kl 5 месяцев назад
Good thing I have a cd copy and play it on my Xbox one s
@maxnaz47
@maxnaz47 3 месяца назад
Project Gotham Racing was by far the best driving game i ever played, on the original Xbox...
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 3 месяца назад
Definitely interested in checking that series out
@mshadowsa2847
@mshadowsa2847 5 месяцев назад
Really great video. I never experienced the first horizon series game but your video was a great review. I highly recommend Drive Club. Game has amazing themed music. Graphics super cool aggressive cars. Like theres alot of heart and good ideas in that game. That i wish we could see a return but Great video man👍🏽
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Oh man, this is so kind 😭 thank you! I’ve heard of Drive Club but never tried it. I’ll look it up!
@EduFirenze
@EduFirenze 5 месяцев назад
Horizon 1 had soul, all the others just went bigger but not necessarily better. Edit: still have my disc so they can't take it away with their all digital future
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Good, keep it 💃🏻
@fnvfanMSPR
@fnvfanMSPR Месяц назад
The AutoHDR looks really good even on RU-vid
@brentsacks
@brentsacks Месяц назад
@@fnvfanMSPR agreed! It took two weeks for this video to process in HDR, but I think it makes a real difference
@k7y
@k7y 5 месяцев назад
Let me summaries Forza horizon series in few words. Drift simulator go brrr 10/10 would play again.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
😂
@MattilaEP
@MattilaEP 5 месяцев назад
Love your analysis and general output. Binged through the Generation Kill commentary as well. Superb. Considering your style, film making and gaming I'd recommend playing through Cyberpunk 2077 especially after the DLC. I'm quite certain you'll find a lot of things to say about it.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Oh man, thank you!! I appreciate that. I have been interested in Cyberpunk since the DLC got just rave reviews. It would be a little outside my wheelhouse as an RPG, but I’m interested in it. Maybe I’ll get to it in like, five years 😂 😭
@Creative_YT
@Creative_YT 5 месяцев назад
I wish I had gotten fh1 and 2 before they were gone but at least I have 3
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
eBay and used game stores are options if you have an Xbox with a disc drive!
@natepopoff
@natepopoff 5 месяцев назад
I have the game on disc, it’s so good to go back to this game. I never played online, but offline and solo is good enough for me.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Same, just playing solo was a blast
@BakuGone
@BakuGone 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for reminding me I still have my original Horizon 1 copy buried in my closet somewhere. Time to buy a Series X I guess
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Get after it!
@heinobrummer1044
@heinobrummer1044 5 месяцев назад
I still have this game on xbox 360. Really good game.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
So good!
@ganjasage420
@ganjasage420 5 месяцев назад
The issue, is the gamers themselves. If you play FH5 now, besides dragging the typical fast cars, no one wants to drive with you. No one wants to drift together. Everyone just maxes a car out, and will outpace you everytime when you try to drive/drift a more realistic way. I drift heavily in that game, but like doing drive runs around the map. Well a 550hp car to a 1000hp car, you cant keep up either drifting or driving when you have a straight to floor it. Thus no one will drive with you. Just yesterday drifting my 540hp silva s15, when a guy with a forumla one drift car (1000hp) wanted to tandem. Not even after the 3rd corner did he just take off, because my car doesnt do 100 mile an hour drifts, it stays within 30-80mph drifting. So our tandem lasted about 2 minutes, max. Back to solo drifting. Then go on freeway/highway to drive low hp cars, here comes the 250mph+ car wanting to group up, but obviously passes my 200mph fully floored silva. Back to being alone, again. In FH2, I ended up finding a group of 10 guys who all drifted together and kept their cars within the same parameters so they could tandem. And when we werent drifting, we drove around the map looking for spots to get a cool photoshoot. For an online game, it sadly feels lonely. The ai drivitars feel more realistic, then the real people who play the game.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
This is a real bummer. I remember when I first started playing Forza, I immediately went to the McLaren P1 because it's ultra high performance, surely it must be the best/funnest car to use! I was sorely mistaken. Some of the funnest cars to drive are "slow" ones
@cjengland3320
@cjengland3320 5 месяцев назад
Forza Horizon 1 was definitely an absolute masterpiece might be bias because I grew up playing it but this game made you want to progress vs like FH4 or FH5
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Yeah the comments section is kind of down on the most recent games
@dawnslayer
@dawnslayer 5 месяцев назад
i am glad i was able to get the digital version of this game from games with gold a few years back. it's my favorite Forza title of all time and i also own the physical copy so i can play whenever i want.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Good!! Yes, I’m glad I got it for free too. The other ones apparently went up for free before they were all delisted, but I missed them
@dawnslayer
@dawnslayer 5 месяцев назад
@brentsacks yes i remember!! my cousin had received FH2 for free with gwg. i missed out on that but i also have the physical copy for it, so no huge bummer.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
I also ended up tracking down 2-4 on disc
@jacobwebb8818
@jacobwebb8818 5 месяцев назад
Seen the title and the thumbnail and thought you were gonna mention Bizarre Creations' Project Gotham Racing. The team who made PGR (Bizarre Creations) was purchased by Microsoft and merged with playground games to make FH1
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Wait I didn’t know this!!!!
@jacobwebb8818
@jacobwebb8818 5 месяцев назад
@@brentsacks they were great games for sure 🙏 Loved both PGR and FH1 + 2. Those were like the golden age games
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Dang it. Is my backlog about to grow, again?
@jacobwebb8818
@jacobwebb8818 5 месяцев назад
@@brentsacks 😂
@johnkarl8373
@johnkarl8373 5 месяцев назад
I want the delisted Forza games relisted, and the downloadable contents. I bought most of the games late and when I learned I couldn't buy the contents anymore, I was devastated. Online services for these past games should come back too.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
Agreed. It’s a shame but they can’t sustain everything forever 😔
@johnkarl8373
@johnkarl8373 5 месяцев назад
@@brentsacks I really wish they have.
@thraxal
@thraxal 4 месяца назад
I'm so happy that i have the game files and run it emulated on my pc at least
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 4 месяца назад
Good!
@jonahcurls588
@jonahcurls588 5 месяцев назад
This was my favorite and still is my favorite game. This was a big piece of my childhood.
@brentsacks
@brentsacks 5 месяцев назад
I love this!!
@bradwhite5884
@bradwhite5884 5 месяцев назад
FH1 was peak Forza, i wish to go back to those times tbh, go back 10 or 15 or so years to enjoy all these games without worrying about all this, all the delisting and such, so yeah
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