You should get your eyesight checked. I use the RN 3000 for my work commutes and it’s as bright as a car headlamp. It’d blind everyone on the road, including me, because of the reflection off the parked cars.
Nice review! Looking to buy either the 3500 or 6500. I can’t for the world of me understand why Magicshine keeps putting flash mode in their lights. Who actually use that mode in a light with this much power?!
Thanks Kim! We agree - there is no real reason to have a 2000 lumen flash mode. Hopefully with the next version they at least make the flash mode more difficult to access like with the Allty lights.
Hi, good review. I have also the monteer 6500, 8000 and other 3 typs of. I love magicshine for the power and price. I wonder why i got more stuff instead of you. There is a helmet mount with straps, a head strap and a gopro mount. I dont think that the 2 leds are xlm2. If you look at cree on google you see that the claim output is only 1052 lumens each. xhp 50.2 + xlm2 is for monteer 6500 only. I have been testing both lights. There is a difference. Not huge but it is. Greetings from Austria 😀
You've got quite a collection as well then! These lights are definitely a lot of lumens for the price - it's been great to see Magicshine improve their lights over the years (we started with the MJ-816E) . Interesting that you got more items - were they all in the box? We also received the helmet mount (a separate small white box) but didn't show it on camera since we didn't use it. Good point on the LEDs, from the information I saw it looked like both 6500S and 8000S had same LEDs but I couldn't get a clear answer.
@@TheSweetCyclists the extra items have been at the bottom of the box. I was calling a few days ago to magicshine in Germany. They didnt tell me what type of leds are in. Fact is, magicshine monteer 8000s is the most powerful mtb-light at the world. Even lupine alpha with 7100 messured lumens is not stronger but more extensive at a price of € 1080. I would like to have a magicshine with 15000 lumens. I will wait. There is a flaslight from imalent "ms18". Messured 100000 lumens but only for 70 secounds. The aim is to reach the result for 2 hours nonstop without loosing power. Maybe in 10 years magicshine reach the goal
Just ordered an 8 led headlamp. Runs 2 18650. I'll be rigging it to helmet or bars. Wonder how the actual light thrown would compare. Clearly this would last longer. Cheers
Sounds like a cool setup. You can definitely save money and get bright flashlights with similar lumen output. Magicshine has done a great job in terms of packaging with the Monteer though, the headlamp is compact and the USB Type-C battery pack can even be used as a powerbank.
Haha - that's the attitude. The Monteer 8000S isn't practical - but it's a ton of fun to ride with. Don't forget to take advantage of the coupon code TheSweetCyclists for 15% off (only on shopmagicshine.com) so you have more Ramen money.
No, the included aluminum out-front mount is only for round handlebars. The light uses a standard Garmin quarter-turn style mount though so you can use nearly any mount on the market.
No that you’ve used it for a while, do you get any heat throttling when using it? It’s hard to understand how they could manage to run for longer periods of time without overheating. Almost no fins, but of course better housing material.
The light definitely heats up in the high output modes (you can feel the heat just putting your hands in front of the beam) but the thermal management does a good job dissipating the heat. Definitely don't expect a sustained 8000 lumens for the 1.5 hours in normal conditions - but for low/medium modes the light has been great for our morning rides.
Great suggestion, we'll try to get those comparions. One light I'd really like to compare the 8000S to is the Lupine Alpha which has over 7000 lumen output and similar setup.
That's the best part about the light, it's a Garmin style mount. So you can buy a helmet Garmin mount from nearly any company. They also have Garmin to GoPro adapters which lets you easily adjust the angle. Magicshine sells a $10 mount as well (www.magicshine.us/product/helmet-mount-allty-300500/).
The description says ". . . but at $20 per lumen it is still a bargain". I think you mean the much better '20 lumens per $', or 5¢ per lumen. (Disregard this comment if it's corrected)
Thanks - yes I meant lumen per dollar (8000 lumen / $400). I'll fix the description. We actually just dropped a review for the Monteer 8000S + 3000S which has a ridiculous 11,500 lumen combined output and same 20 lumen per dollar value.
@Magicshine USA One question, do you plan to put the same batteries in a more compact headlamp like the Allty line? Obviously regarding its size, or will it only be available in headlights with external batteries?
@Magicshine USA Why not offer Type C charging on all your devices? It is what is becoming more common, is it true that type C charging devices have more use in the future? I have several Magicshine lights, including the Allty1000 and Rn1500, does that mean that the 1500 lumens model will last me longer in the future? Is it worth going from the Allty1000 to the 1500 model? Thanks for your reply:)
Perhaps - we'll look into it. The MOH 55 actually shares the same battery pack as the Monteer 6500S/8000S so it would be great to put side-by-side with the Monteers.
@@TheSweetCyclists Two of the MOH 55 might make a great MTB option. One on the helmet and one on the bars. It's my opinion that the max light output is far less important than long run life at 1-2k lumen. Almost all my MTB rides involve a pretty good period (3+ hours) of night riding.
@@terrychrudinsky5663 Agreed. You definitely don't need 6000 or 8000 lumen output - a dual helmet/handlebar light setup is a better option. These current Monteer lights, and the MOH 55 don't appear to have remote buttons though which would be nice to have for helmet mounting.
On the Magicshine facebook page MS talks about adding a remote switch. They reported needing to stay away from the 2.4GZ wireless because of battery drain issues. Not sure why they didn't just go with the bluetooth wireless like the mj-906B options. The options it added for tuning light outputs looked to be a great option. With my luck, I'll purchase one of these or a MOH 55 and wireless will be added to the next generation.
That's interesting. I'm not sure why they don't offer a bluetooth version of the MOH 55, as there is a MOH 35B bluetooth version already. Hopefully next generation of MOH 55 / Monteer lights will also get a remote or bluetooth programming.
We haven't timed it ourselves - but according to Magicshine page the full charge time would be 9.5hours on 5V 2A connection (see www.magicshine.us/product/magicshine-mj-6118-7-2v-5-2ah-usb-battery-pack-round-plug/). The battery has a lot of capacity though - riding with it for ~6 hours a week I only charge it every few weeks.
At 8000 lumens this light is more than enough on its own even in the lower modes. If you prefer a dual setup I would recommend considering the more affordable Monteer options (3500/6500) and adding the MOH 55 to your helmet. You could end up with about same price and a more flexible setup.
Noted! We're trying to put something together. When the Monteer came out - a lot of people compared it to the Lupine Alpha which is 7200 lumens. It would be very cool to see Monteer 8500S and Alpha side-by-side.
You know it would be nive 2 know waht are real lumen numbers..my guess is under 2000, nout nearly 8000 fake lumens. Just for example Lupine SL AX7 is about 2000 lumens and brighter and much more better in anyways that any Magicshine
The new Magicshine lights are FL-1 tested so it is a measured 8000 lumen output. You're right though, the previous MJ-908 was a "theoretical" 8000 lumen light but was actually around 3000 lumen real output. Unlike cheap 8000+ lumen Amazon lights, the newer MJ and Monteer Magicshine lights have the battery packs and LEDs to back up the measured lumen outputs.
Nearly all bike lights have a 1-2 hour maximum at the max output setting. The advantage of the 8000S is that you have longer runtimes at the lower settings which are still quite bright.
It's actually $399.99 with the update 8000S V2 coming in at $419.99 (it include a remote). It's a lot of money, but if you spend a lot of time riding at night the extra illumination and battery capacity is well worth it.
While it certainty isn't cheap, it's a great deal for 8000 verified lumen output. Magicshine offers more affordable Monteer 3500 and MJ-90X versions as well.
