One on One with Karl Jobst and Drobgaming! Full Interview about Wata Games, Heritage Auctions etc 

At least you had the dignity to talk with Karl one on one. You're still completely wrong about everything though.

This guy isn't a collector, he's a speculator. There IS a difference.

It's hilarious how much Karl has to keep apologizing for being good at proving points with data and research.

Damn, 49 minutes in and I don't see anyone other than Karl being open minded.

LOL. Seriously.. did these two guys actually watch Karls videos??????? Cause there just asking him questions and making the poor guy just relay what he has already said... It's so bad! Seriously.. Poor Karl having to just keep repeating himself. It's actually painful to watch. It's like a kindergarten teacher repeatedly teaching the 3-4 YOs to understand that shitting in the sandpit is a bad idea...

Karl you are an absolute legend!!!

“In the end Dennis and Wata are the victims” 😂😂 no, they are not! Holy Shit! What a nut.

Speculators get happy when the prices go up, collectors get happy when the prices go down. That's all there is to it. Mad dog is a speculator. If he was a collector he would be very happy that the prices are going down so he could afford to collect more games.

this is sad as hell if you arent getting paid by wata in some form

"That's only from a fact-checker standpoint." is an absolutely disgusting sentence.

I want to hammer a point mad dog made that was not just wrong, but insane. Heritage Auctions IS NOT "the only collectibles auction house".. I am a collectibles dealer.. off the top of my head there's Goldin, Hunt, Pristine, Mears, Christie's, and.. wait for it.. EBAY!!!... there are also thousands of small auction houses that fill niche markets. That point was so insane to me as a collectibles dealer it blew my mind.

Couldn't be more obvious that Karl is right. And there's no way Mad Dog actually believes the shit he's saying.

It's good you're at least having this conversation but there really is no excuse for the awful attempt at manipulating your viewers in your video. You've been 100% exposed on that video, if you unrightfully attack someone like that there is no rowing back on these claims. You tried to destroy Karl's reputation with lies, i would absolutely understand if he would want to sue.

Funny , Mad Dog had not heard of Karl Jobst until now . I’d never heard of him until he was mentioned by Karl Jobst and Pat Contri for misquoting them, insulting them and insinuating.

17:11 the ultimate WATA shill shills WATA. Are you even getting paid by them Mad Dog?

Yeah, privating your whole channel doesn't help your position

Bro how do you still not understand what a conflict of interest is? Boggles the mind

Karl cooked this bald guy, I know he regrets calling out Karl lol

I got 9 minutes in and quit. I wasn’t going to last much longer with Mad Dog bullshitting that he “accidentally” misrepresented Pat by editing his sentence, but to hear Karl join in on misrepresenting Pat by saying he is anti seal is too much. The guy has sealed games and cherishes them, what he has a problem with is people leveraging the seals to make money in an unsustainable market.

I'm not gonna watch the whole thing just tell me how hard Karl won

Admit it dude. You wanted to say collectors that are poor or aren't on my level when you were talking about Karl's audience

What happen to the rest of this channel's video? Emotional Damage! Update: Found out the creator private his video and then unprivate them later on.

It's amazing how far this guy goes trying to justify how Jim Halpern and Wata did nothing wrong, just because "Jim is a nice guy". He can't even see the problem with the conflict of interest in Jim owning part of Wata and not disclosing it. I don't know anything about law and I still realize it's unethical and slimy. The general sentiment I got from Mad Dog's original rebuttal video is that he didn't even watch Karl's original video and/or didn't understand it, which continues here.

Look I’ve made some absolutely rancid videos in the past so I get deleting/making videos private but if you make a point you’ve gotta stand by it. Otherwise you just seem like a bottom feeder that got caught. Good luck with everything but you can’t be too surprised at this outcome.

His defenses for deceptively editing the clips of Pat are not satisfactory. This doesn’t help my feelings towards him

Mad Dog is a hired troll. This confirms it.

I stumbled onto this and I have to say, Karl and Drob made some good points. But Mad dog just kept making insane statements. Everything from conflict of interest being okay, basically endorsing borderline illegal activity just because it isn't quotable to the law but is obviously illegal through broader laws, to just not understanding the points that are being made by Drob and Karl. He's either not knowledgeable enough about it the reasons for the outrage or he is deliberately trying to mislead people, and I sincerely hope it's the first one.

Mad Dog trying to change the argument every single time that he speaks......

Without knowing the dude up top, he's constantly like, that's not what you meant right mad dog throughout the video, kind of assisting him in answering a certain way. Just my opinion, it does feel a little 2 on 1 ... big respect to Karl for standing up for yourself

Why defend Wata games when the proof is there that they conduct unethical business practices? As a mild collector myself I'm not interested in the prices of games unless I'm buying. If you are an investor or speculator would be the only reason to defend Wata overinflating prices.

Why is he fighting so hard for Wata/Jim?

Karl is an absolute legend

It's so bizarre to see someone attempting to defend something that's so commonly understood to be a fraud, especially against someone who basically definitely proved it.

For all his paper thin defenses of Wata, I’d LOVE to hear him defend the memory-holing of Nintendo Age in order to hide historical pricing info accrued over DECADES. There was literally NO HONEST reason to make that disappear other than to control the pricing narrative going forward. TRY to defend it. We dare you.

funny to see you here now. new clothes, new glasses, new posture, new demeanor, new voice. it's like you're a completely different person. i'll send you a napkin homie, you got served

Props for coming out of hiding and actually talking, but come on man. We all know why you made that video. It's over. The prices are going to continue to fall to reasonable prices. Trying to attack content creators who speak the unbiased truth isn't going to make the prices go back up to what they were. It was a dumb idea that blew up in your face.

Just wanted to remind everyone that Karl is still a legend.

This guy literally just shot himself in the foot a hundred times. Goodluck from here on out man.

"WATA sold, they all made some money" does no one see the problem in that statement?! That sale to Collectors Universal alone has stink on it because of this. The sentiment is that WATA, Deniz and Heritage and the tiny clique of toadies colluding are the scam in this hobby. Stop broadbrushing the whole enterprise to make an invalid point. Karl, Pat and the gaming world are pointing at them, not the whole sealed scene. No way you were ignorant of Pat's context. Your editing is too clean for you to be that sloppy. Sealed collectors and speculators keep chewing on their own foot. 🤦

1:16 how come all your videos disappeared then?

When your attack video has comments off and has a ratio of 118 likes to 1.8k dislikes you should know you fucked up HAHA.

49:20, No, we don't give him the benefit of the doubt and let people out of their responsibilities and obligations or failure to do them.

Collectors are not investors and vice versa. Collectors buy to own. Investors buy to sell. 17:45 All these guys are talking about is "the market". Collectors will own something because they care about it. Investors own something to sell it. 18:50 If you were buying what you love, the price drops would be a positive thing for you. 20:00 Here maddog is talking about his "time in the market". Collectors do not talk like this. Collectors don't have "time in the market", they have "I love X for whatever reason". 21:00 Why would you care about a catalyst for a market? If you don't sell games like you said in the beginning 1:51, the catalyst doesn't matter. A collector that is interested in collecting something for themselves would not want a 3rd party jacking up the prices on things they want to collect. If I find a great sealed game, and its selling for $30 bucks, thats far better than a whole company and grading system that now makes the same thing cost $100k. 29:21 This whole argument is BS. Mad Dog starts losing the argument because of Karl's quoting an article at 31:00 and drobgaming has to jump in to change the direction. 40:00 Mad Dog trys to tell himself and everyone that he is basically right, Karl thankfully shuts him down. 40:55 Karl never said they were worth $0. Mad Dog trys to state there was no manipulation and claim it as fact, again, without proof or the ability to deny arguments. 43:30 This is a good point. The graders should not also give a price. 45:00 Karl has a great point here with this, being an authority AND saying that an asset will go up in price is manipulation. 47:50 This apoligetic stance is BS. 52:05 This is a BS argument. A speculative market only takes someone saying that the price is going up, just like Karl said. It doesn't matter if the actual price is going up or down, the issue of manipulation is people communicating a potential market movement. 55:55 YES buying a game for 100k from a company you founded IS manipulation (if I understand that right). 58:00 Again, MARKET talk. 59:00 MD Why are you so interested about other buyers? As a supposed collector, other people shouldn't matter. 1:00:05 Karl fires another bullet but they dodge hard. 1:06:00 Karl, your viewers are GAMERS first, collectors second maybe, and lastly would be investors. Gamers want games to stay $10-$50 so that they are accessible to anyone who is interested. 1:11:10 Again, Mad Dog tries to state a fact and hope that noone argues it, just scummy. 1:15:15 These people are VERY different. One is a world class speed runner and gamer, the other is an investor. 1:18:30 Karl basically defines what a collector means, he wants to collect a game because it means something to him. No investment, no marketing, not worried about other buyers.

He brought the video back, but turned comments off. What a joke.

6:14 Karl going for killshots. Good.

I wish Pat would have come to make a statement one way or another but he probably just doesn't want to deal with this crap. That was my big issue that he clearly edited footage to make someone say something that in the proper context they did not. All the rest of it is whatever to me. When it was brought up there was no real answer from anyone on this point and it still remains a mystery to me how he didn't apologize or admit at the very least that he may have accidentally misrepresented what Pat said. Insanity.

35:39 Thats why i think politicians shouldn't be allowed to own stocks or high end real estate bc they can manipulate the market and know whats laws or regulations are coming before the public.

Between this guy doubling down on numerous indefensible and/or completely irrelevant positions, the open admission that his video was inspired personal relationships and interactions with Khan and Halperin - conflict of interest, by the way -, and the third guy constantly interrupting Karl, this was a tough listen. Would’ve liked to hear more pushback from Karl, but I suppose it wasn’t a formal debate or anything. Mad dog is….very, very foolish, to put it nicely.

This Mad Dog guy is definitely a speculator

In this interview, you admit that you engaged in precisely the egregious lack of journalistic standard that you accuse Karl of in your video. "I didn't watch it all, it was just for jokes." Is an incredibly weak defense which belies an incredibly weak moral constitution.

Is there some crazy damage control going on in the comments here, some sort of auto-filter, or is my RU-vid bugged? Seeing comments with 5-10 replies but only one or two actually show up, if any. Very peculiar if it isn't a bug as I've pretty much never seen such phenomena on the website before now. Nice that you actually sat down and talked with Karl although your points are still incredibly flawed.

The misrepresentation of Pat's position is disgusting. He's irrelevant to this conversation, but if you're going to use him as an example, at least don't lie about his position and what's he's actually said.

Mad Dog does come off as rather shady and not really having a clear understanding of ethical practices... I do commend him for showing up and doing this... Also as one who has a rather sizeable collection of posters, HA (Heritage Auctions) is the LAST place I'd buy from. They're older and far more reputable dealers in the realm of vintage movie poster / lobby card / etc... After this foul up with WATA, I'm glad I've steered clear from them for years.

Mad Dog, I'm curious, how did you evaluate what the impact of the Pawn Stars segment was? And the same goes for their other shady actions. You keep parroting that there was no impact but never care to explain what are you basing that on.

just started watching and already MDC said he is not going to change his views. then why the F*** did you want this interview ?

Why did you deleted your older videos?

2 of the 3 people were having a conversation. 1 person had an agenda (doesn't mean MadDog doesn't have good points, just that his points are over-shadowed by his ego).

Someone that buys stuff hoping is going to go up in price isn't a collector, so do not call yourself a collector when you value more the money the item is worth instead of the item itself :/

I don't believe any Mad Dog Collection word. People make mistakes, but I do not believe that he does not understand whole issue and the claims against WATA and Heritage. If he don't understand legal things than he should even argue about it and making RU-vid videos about it. He even don't understand facts presented to him.

This video has 70 likes to 566 dislikes...

U are a investor rather than a collector

Imagine thinking people who have more money than the average gamer are victims. 🤣

Even though I completely disagree with you, I respect you coming on to talk with Karl himself instead of being vindictive and starting drama like so many other RU-vidrs lol

Imagine calling Pat contraindictive after everything he explained in his video. I couldn't make it throughout this entire video... Still misrepresenting him.

This drobgaming guy is literally proving Pat's point with his aggressively defensive energy

Karl getting gaslighted for 1 hour and half. lol

33:51 The general consumer would make the assumption that they would get advantageous perks from their own company. I mean, why wouldn't they do it? They're basically business partners that would benefit from each other. From an outsider's perspective it raises questions why they're using their own services while they're actively being part owner with said company. If they don't want to raise any red flags, in this case, a conflict of interest or fraud, they shouldn't be able to use their own service at all. By not using the service they eliminated any possible red flags to gain preferential treatment (better grades, faster grade times, etc). I'm not sure if Mad Dog is aware of the legal ramification when companies could be suspected of profiting from side businesses. Committing fraud is a felony offense.

Did you delete your video? Am I being an asshole by asking that question?

124 likes, 2k dislikes

“Niche” is a pseudonym for elitism.

this is like modern day rap disses

So where's the other video? did you remove it?

Tell 'em Karl!

Man with 700 subs calls out Karl saying nobody has ever heard of him

The guy on top wonders how anyone can be anti-grading? When you have a company putting a value on something with no clear transparent guide and that same company also being involved with auctioning off these same items, I dont understand how you are unable to see the glaringly obvious issue in this. Let's be real... the main reason people are sticking up for WATA is because they have a lot of money invested and are only interested in themselves instead of accepting the truth of the situation.

Is there any reason why the copy of this interview D-Rob posted on his channel is about an hour longer? I have not watched that one, just noted the huge difference in length.

I'd prefer to watch this video on someone else's channel instead of giving monetization to this clown's channel

I would have liked the host to not cut Karl off so much when he was making a point, and to have asked him why he is against speculating. Also, Mad Dog probably would benefit from doing a course in ethical practices and why they exist. Other than that, thanks for giving us a glimps into the heads of these people, who all seem reasonable, if somewhat misguided. No-one should be chastised.

I don’t think it’s complicated what I dislike about sealed game collecting. It would be akin to people buying shoes and never taking them out of the box. It’s just commercialism and materialism at its grossest.

From all the crap you pulled, I wouldn't be surprised that you clipped out things from this video too to lie and prove your points. SMH

I guess this guy gets what he wants in the end, the "PUBLIC ATTENTION". I don't support the people who calls themselves a collector when they are really just in it for the money. I'm disappointed that Karl even agreed to this interview when there is really no point for it other than a damage control for the guy.

Why you deleted your videos man??? :D

Why so much debate about whether sealed collecting is good or bad? The issue here is massive fraud and market manipulation. If anything, somebody outside of that market (not sealed collector) has a stronger footing to point out said dishonest practices over someone who is steeped in that market.

credit to mad dog for taking Ls left and right and not just deleting himself.

the first thing mad dog does is open with how “karl’s fans left him special letters in his dms”. okay buddy. ur sooo open minded and willing to contribute to this conversation

Where's the original video stating Karl is totally wrong about Wata Games and what happened to the rest of your videos from RU-vid? If you make argument with someone you'll need proof and evidence showing that person is wrong to begin with? I would suggest adding the original video back if you want your own personal argument known against Karl Jobst.

Been collecting games a bit longer than this guy. My argument about the relationship between the market and collecting, is that if you love the thing you are collecting, you actually don't care in the slightest the way the market values your hobby. The dude is a speculative investor... He's not a collector. Watching his complete lack of morality and bewilderment about why conflicts of interest are still relevant regardless of your wealth is truly troubling. Grading is a scam. Adding a $100 game to a $50 assessment doesn't make a game worth $450.

Pat says his stance on sealed games in his newest video talking about mad dog's video. (Its at 20:40 if anyone wants to see)

"One on one" with two other people 😂

C'mon mad dog break this into sections.

You pointed out all my lies and minipulation.... lets stop talking about it and squash the beef lol

what's funnier is that this guy's exposé video was the only video on his channel, making ass dog's case even sadder

simple example of damage control, it's a shame that you have disabled comments on previous, "debunking" video.....

Make an hour long video talking about your favorite games without mentioning price or rarity once. Then Ill know you are serious about video games. If you arent serious about video games, then there is only one other reason you would spend this kind of money.

Rich people often bid an extra $500k because it might be funny. That's normal!

I still don't understand why games get graded, especially if one game gets manufactured the same as another. Collectors/collecting games, I understand and support but grading them screams scam to me. If anyone can kick knowledge about this I'm happy to try and understand.

I think Karl didn't do a great job defending his ideas here but it doesn't really change the fact that your original video was dishonest and deceitful, or was at the very least extremely negligent to the truth. How can you not check the source of the Pat clips to get the original context when it was evidence for a major argument in the video? or claim with no evidence that Pat said that people should rip open their sealed video games?

did you remove the original response video to karl because if you did that says alot, basically that you were wrong. i cant seem to find it anywhere.

Guy in the red shirt....shut up!

congratulations. your highest viewed video is one where you stirred up drama, one of the points you tried to say Karl does in his videos. Learn from Karl, be a better content creator. your videos clearly have quality production, you just need to be better with how you frame your opinions. Use facts, not misleading narratives