Open Bar #38 - Picard Soars, Ant Man 3 Stumbles, Velma Gets Season 2 

Respect to Mauler for saying he isn't into Star Trek, but being chill while everyone else had a good time talking about it.

A Scotsman, a Welshman, and an Irishman walk into a bar... . . . ... and never leave, because Gary can't open the door.

Velma didn't GET a season 2, Velma HAD a season 2. They made one season, split it in half, and called one half Season 1, and the other half Season 2. This has been normal practice in animation for a while now, and even gets done with live-action a fair bit now.

''nobody sets out to make something bad', I dont think thats true anymore

2:55:04 Mauler’s laughter here is priceless. Well done Waylon.

"Why are people not watching season 3?" When you go to a restaurant and they serve you hot garbage for appetizers and the main course, you don't stick around for the dessert.

So WONDERFUL having Dave Cullen and RMB on the same Trek panel…this was such a great conversation!! 😎🥃

It sucks to see Cassie being made into another Riri Williams and somehow created a quantum device easily like no big deal.

I always saw Riker and Picard as Kirk - the two halves of Captain Kirk, split in two. The historian, diplomat, strategist, stoic experienced captain and the action man, fighter, womanizer, sarcastic flippant fatalist; one was distilled into Picard, the other distilled into Riker.

1:32:14 Drinker's little speech had me cheering out loud.

Robert Meyer Burnett is incredibly knowledgeable, a scholar of film history indeed.

Okay, you gentlemen have convinced me. I won’t stream it because I don’t stream but, if they put season 3 on disc, I will pick it up, support it, and give it a chance. Dave put it over the edge for me with his Top Gun: Maverick talk.

This is absolutely exhilarating that even talking about Star Trek is suddenly so engrossing and satisfying. The fact that there is so much sap left in this huge branching tree that seemed to have dried out, but now it's overflowing into the commentary, is a sign of its roots reaching into something universal.

JUSTICE FOR ROB!!! TOTAL VINDICATION

Can’t wait to see Fred Jones getting walked over and shat on all over again in Velma season 2 but somehow, he’s still the one who came out on top, just like how Marvel shat on John Walker constantly but ended up making him the only character with development.

Fellas, I just don’t have the time to waste watching garbage. For the most part, I trust you to filter the sludge for the treasure. Otherwise, I’m going to spend my time rediscovering classics I haven’t seen that are genuinely good.

"They don't imagine well". I think you really nailed something about modern society. Personally, I believe all that science fiction reading I did early in my life allowed me to become good at my work, to use my imagination to solve problems, to visualize the problem. Something I feel is lacking in my profession as whole. If you don't have a good imagination you have to rely solely on past experience to implement solutions, but with imagination you can basically run simulations in your head to solve a problem you may have never encountered before.

Amen. The writers obviously dont have any life experience to draw from. These productions are hiring young writers because they work cheaply to get their foot in the door. Hence the insolent, snarky high school dialogue and characters. We need adults in the writers room.

Snark. It seems to hold modern writers like the Ring holds Gollum. An inescapable presence in their minds that dominates their every thought.

The Critical Drinker and Mr. Plinkett need to have a crossover movie review together. That would be NEXT LEVEL HILARIOUS AND EPIC!

Holy hell! Computing forever! Taking me back. Great guest. 👍

Cassie bitches about rent being way to high but lives with her super rich family. Do you know what would have been better than them going to a fancy restaurant to celebrate a FAKE birthday? All of them going to a soup kitchen to feed those homeless people and have Hank come with Wagyu steak that he enlargens to feed those less fortunate. That would actually complete 1/2 the Cast’s Character Arcs: Cassie puts her money where her mouth is and actually helps people, Scott is not resting on his laurels from Endgame and actually is out there making lives better again, Hank gets appreciation for saving each Homeless person $100+ on a delicious steak which is WAY better than saving $8 by ordering a small pizza.

Thank the Gods for Robert Meyer Burnett. Cheers.

Dave was fighting wokeness before they called it woke. I'm very happy to see him FINALLY getting the credit and respect he deserves.

I love how Robert constantly brings up how in the Trek universe everything is solved and the dumb writers of Season 1,2 made it a teen drama when Star Trek was never about that.

finally OG Dave Cullen on the show

This was a great discussion on the state of sci fi

Nice line up tonight, glad to see Dave Cullen on here with the drinker

I have watched none of STD or Piacrd I will go in watch season 3 and say my goodbyes to one of the best franchises ever made.

let this be known that this is the first open bar I watched the whole way through

Great to see Dave C on the channel at last :)

How on earth did Velma get a second season?! I guess Warner really enjoys losing money.

Awww dave, he's one of the og culture war heros I found when first dipping a toe into RU-vid 👌

It’s been a terrible year for movies and TV but the Critical Drinker still gives is the best contents

Robert was a great addition. He brought a lot of knowledge from a different perspective

Antman 3: We Has Kangs

great panel, great discussion. thank you.

2:24:01 Is it wrong that I enjoy watching the Drinker sigh in disappointment? 😆✌ (rhetorical)

The discussion here is so GREAT!! Thank you to everyone who was involved!

Really enjoyed the stream and debate on Science Fiction

Catching up on all the historic open bars from the beginning and this is the best one so far. Great discussion on sci-fi from all the panel. Would be great to have Robert and Dave together again in the future.

The theme song for this show rules

A Scotsman pulls out a gun, and the Irishman is like "Sorry I gotta go!" X'D

Kang wants to destroy the multiverse? I see this as an absolute win.

Hey, it's Dave Cullen in a Drinker video!

In a way I agree that he could have been portrayed as addicted to basically anything for the purposes of the story. But the addiction to food and subsequent obesity presents an important difference to other addictions in that he never loses his clarity of mind. Most other addictions result in periods of insensibility, and that would alter the story, like in Leaving Las Vegas for instance. But he is always sadly aware of his downfall.

2:54:30 LMAO 🤣🤣🤣 Omg thank you for that one I needed that laugh stuck on overnight at work hahaha

Fantastic conversation with much insight into the meat of films and shows production.

@Robert Meyer Burnett, love your idea of a Star Trek Czar administering a Test you have to pass to have the privilege of writing for Star Trek!

Yes please to a stream with RMB talking about Generations. Those Trek streams were some of my favourites you've done and it'd be nice to see you complete the set, esp after watching Picard season 3.

2:54:30 Juuuust leaving this here for posterity. Well played, Waylon 🤣

I wasn't even gonna watch Picard 3, but now I am and I am pumped! Thank you.

There is nothing better than hearing you guys share ideas.Unity.

In the OG Star Trek the Enterprise Crew would beam down to a "Woke" planet. The two Red Shirts would get "Canceled" for laughing at the inhabitant's use of pro-nouns. Spock would convince the men that it is illogical. McCoy would scan a few "Trans" and tell them they are a Male & Female. And Kirk would bang the "Girl Boss" leader and she would realize what it is to be a Woman. The entire "Woke" issue would be resolved in approximately 45 minutes of Television.

OK guys, let’s all stay together STOP GIVING MONEY TO PEOPLE WHO HATE YOU

Really enjoyable episode gents, nice to have grown ups with differing opinions still be able to talk about their hobbies and passions with everyone stil listening and respecting the other person's opinion or their right to have one and the Mike Oxmaul part had me in hysterics. Awesome panel and guests I could gladly listen to RMB talk all night long about star trek and Sci fi and the other bloke who I haven't heard of seemed insightful and knew his stuff so thanks for the entertainment and hopefully catch the nxt one live.

The vampires in blindsight are genius!!

"Cold this morning, captain.” “Hmm. Cold. And hard.”

RMB is great, could listen to him for hours.

Thanks guys. I am not a Trekkie, and haven't seen S1-2. But I will jump in here. Sounds like a great show ✌

After watching Drinker's reacation to Mauler talking to him about the new Antman movie I really want him to watch it. The video reaction is going to be hilarious xD

Absolutely brilliant discussion gentleman. Well done guys.

I'm gonna wait for all 10 eps of S3 to be out then get P+ for one month and watch them all.

36:00 oh boy can't wait to miss this to watch that 😀

Thank you, Terry! This is, really, a great attempt to right the ship! I am one that watched all the Kurtzman trek since I was starved for anything, but all of you are right about Modern Star Trek. This includes Picard Season 3. Anyonw who loves legacy Trek will not be completely fulfilled, but they will be happy to see what Terry is doing now. Especially at the end of Eposide 2, when Picard becomes PICARD!

I love how it looks like Gary is merged with the background image

This was one of the most interest discussions about fiction and what it means as an expression of the human condition and experience

The best way to send a message to Paramount is to wait until Picard S3 is available to purchase somewhere else and then buy it. Pay for the good stuff, and don't subscribe to services that primarily produce crap.

Dragging the core TNG cast back in is not enough to get me to watch Picard after checking out from the 3rd episode of the first season. I wanted a deep character study of distinguished Starfleet captain in his twilight years rediscovering himself in relatively low-stakes mysteries and intrigue from one episode to the next, not overly ambitious universe/multiverse-threatening story arcs spanning the entire season. He's too old, along with the rest of the cast, to be dealing with villains, revenge plots and big spaceship battles. TNG ended with a poker game nearly 30 years ago. The movies were garbage.

2:08:00 Does Drinker just keep an M1911 on his desk at all times??!! Respect... 🤠

I am rewatching Babylon 5……

I started listening to you during work... I just wanna say: I love you guys! :D

Thank you for the banter.

"Salute of the Jugger", AKA "Blood of Heroes" was awesome, watched it on VHS way back, David Cullen hasn't covered it yet - that would be amazing!

Ok, Dave Cullen is something new.

2:50:13 I picked June 1st because that’s when Johnny Depp won the trial last year.

Dave Cullen on The Drinker.... YES!

lets be real. Only reason Velma is getting a second season is because HBO doesn't want the writers/creators of the show to bash and call them out for "letting trolls win". It's the same with She-Hulk. I guarantee you, though, Velma is getting cancelled after season 2 inevitably fails. I'm guessing She-Hulk will be cancelled as well, but we'll see.

This is one of the best panels I've seen from the drinker. Great work. Would love to see voxis get involved again tho 😀

hahahah xD seeing Gary leave the chat beacause he has to see ant-man because of .... "I juste want to talk about ST with you guys" I'm sorry for you ^^

They keep going back to Star Wars and Star Trek and Firefly lore is just sitting there....

I'm so happy that Star Trek has a good modern season! I truly hope they learn at least some lessons from it and improve the rest of the shows.

Dear Critical Drinker, your reviews and roundtables are excellent and very addictive. I have a hopefully pertinent question: Why Jack Daniels and not Scotch? My personal favourite: 16-year Laguvulin

With Picard 3 being good, we need to make a lot of noise, to make it known to the studios that these beloved franchises are not beyond redemption if they just get a writer who actually respects, loves and understands the thing to which they are working on.

I noticed that modoc and Cassie’s fight was the same as hulk beating Loki in avengers and hulk beating Thor in Thor ragnarok They are taking scenes from the bargain parts bin and stitching the film together The film 100% seems like three films from three different directors that was created in the editing room to quote falcon - YOU NEED TO DO BETTER DISNEY and like drinker I really really wanted the film to have improved and learned from the past mistakes. They need to take a page from DCs book and cat woman some of these films - imagine if they dumped The Marvels ( we live in hope)

Top team, gutted I missed it live.

Yeah, I watched the first episode after not even bothering with the first 2 seasons. I did so because Dave Cullen said to lol. I'm not quite sold yet, but it sounds like episode 2 is where things start taking off, so to speak.

To Robert, the first time I ever watched Star Trek The Next Generation, was during Rosh Hashonah(1987), the Jewish New Year. Also, it was recorded on my JVC VCR on a 2-hour VHS cassette tape. Too bad I didn't correctly adjust the recording timer. R.I.P. Gene Rodenberry.

I enjoyed Star Trek, watched TNG episodes when they were on TV when I was a kid... in college I found the "Free Enterprise" Movie and really enjoyed it. It is one of my favorite movies despite not being into OG Trek. It just spoke to me as someone who was into sci-fi/fantasy and comics. Good stuff

These are fine gentlemen discussing films in a delightful manner.

Really great discussion on science fiction on this one.

Outlaw Josie Wales “man’s gotta know etc…” line

the problem with supersonic is air creates friction, friction creates heat, so you need special materials to make the planes, and breaking the speed of sound creates loud noises, so they can't fly over land... also it uses a lot more fuel... darn physics getting in the way of cool ideas...

Yey Dave Cullen awesome

PICARD is mad slick, he's managed to stay in business for years. i remember all the movies he was in, including with other comedians like steve martin. patrick stewart is an alpha male in the industry, like it or not.

I think Dave was right . We don’t need Star Treck. Are there no new ideas. New franchises. Has everything got to be ST or Star Wars. Forever? Lol

I am curious what Razorfist will think about season 3.

Love this film, can’t wait to watch it.

Velma gets season 2 made me turn head as I was putting phone down to listen. WHAT IN GOD'S FUCK

The part where they are talking about modok and Drinker be like "mauler......no....." lol