Origen of Alexandria - Part 1- On First Principles: Introduction, Trinity, and Christology 

This is so good, I've watched it 3 times! You really are one of the clearest most articulate teachers on the internet, as smart or smarter (probably, I think) than Vervaeke or Pageau, but so much CLEARER. Thank you for all you do!!!

This is my first video I’ve seen from this channel and I’m very impressed. I’ll be watching a lot more in the future. Thanks for the great education.

Been loving binging this series recently! Lots of food for thought to chew on. I would love to also see a series done on the councils.

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Can't wait to hear the rest of the series. Very educating.

I really appreciated this. Thank you so much for doing it. Looking forward to the the rest of the series.

Haven’t started this yet. Really want to listen tomorrow.

25:35 if you do this act of division there is nothing left, also Platonism itself was influenced by Hebrew thought, especially the Temple Mysticism traditions which come into Platonism via Pythagoras (see Timaeus)

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24:20 It's also the term used for Genus in Neo-Platonism, John also used logos, so the use to indicate the only only of a unique (divine-human:) genus is entirely plausible. The aforementioned Porphyry uses the same word in his text on Genus and Species in Aristotle's Categories. I could well mean something akin to sui generis.

When I found this I was looking to finally deep dive Origen, and had NO idea you all had connections to that little corner of the internet until you mentioned Paul!!! 😂😂😂

Just finished, podcast version. I left Sam lots of thoughts. Hank keep working on your non-tritheism articulation of the Trinity. ;) thanks, guys. Great stuff. Main thing that I’ll leave on the youtubes is this: Sam, I don’t think that your ending conception of Fr Behr’s interpretation of Origen’s Incarnation is heretical. Eternity as nontemporal “time”, and Jesus being the center of that future/telos reality pulling the beginning to the end (which are really just the same in the eternal-time sense…it’s not a big deal. :) Thanks, again.

22:47 Porphyry''s Isogage is the first text Thomas Aquinas College Freshman approach in Philosophy.

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Good video. I rhink in Diognetus 12, Genesis is looked at as allegory too

Awesome, I'm glad there are other people out there who read "the son of God" and believe it.

Origen on Jesus sounds a bit like what I've heard of Adam Kadmon in Kabbalah... Which also draws on neoplatonism. Where do you find the line between these apparently interconnected thought streams.

It was mentioned how the sun and the moon have souls, is it similar to the body/spirit/complex or a collective? Does Origen mention other stars/ planets that have souls like Saturn, mars, Venus?

Team Origen over at Grail Country might have to do a response, friendly of course, but we will definitely have a different take.

28:22 I would question whether the songs you refer to actually have the ransom paid to the devil, which was Origen's error. Ransom is a Scriptural word/concept. It is therefore a legitimate metaphor to be used, but must be understood correctly. The devil was not owed anything for our redemption (another word related to ransom). The ransom/redemption was accomplished by Christ making the necessary satisfaction to God to deliver us from the just sentence of death (captivity). Before St Anselm, Sts Gregory of Nazianzus and John of Damascus rejected the idea of ransom being paid to the devil which was held by Origen and Gregory of Nyssa.

Sam, what you said at 40 minutes in: yeah, tell me about it! Waiting for people to fight my weird and insane ideas, all backed by the Bible and reason

You do a wonderful job of taking such abstract concepts and making them easier to understand. Kudos! After considering what a lot of BU’s have to say about this idea of “eternal generation” I have to say that I think I agree with them. It’s dangerously close to being an oxymoron since a son, by definition, has to exist at a point in time after his father. Otherwise, you’re truly dealing with two brothers, right? Sure, God might exist outside of time, but I’d posit that for a being to exist outside of time necessitates that they forfeit the claim of sonship- it’s just not possible without contradiction at least in my tiny mind.

27:14 Two examples of where modernist RC theology has gone seriously awry. Urs von Balthassar's declared intention was to invent a "new Catholicism", ie a departure from the tradition.

1:27:52 I have read that one of Origen's speculative ideas was that creation is eternal, as without it God would have been inactive and not omnipotent. This would seem to be akin to pantheism, affirming the eternal existence of all things in some form. I think it significant that you referred earlier to sophiology, as that is a resurgence of theosophical notions drawn from occult gnostic and kabbalistic mythologies. Modern adherents of these ideas might be looking to appropriate some of Origen's heretical speculations, but, as you rightly point out, he affirmed that the Logos, the Son, is Himself the hypostatic Wisdom of God (as St Paul tells us. God is Himself Wisdom, but the Logos is the Hypostatic Wisdom of God as manifesting God's attributes in creation and salvation (as stated in Pomazansky's Orthodox Dogmatic Theology). It is important to note the occult origin of sophiology which is gaining a certain currency among some modernist Orthodox, although deemed heretical by others. Sophiologists don't hide their affinity to kabbalism and theosophy. Sophiology is effectively the idolatrous creation of a hypostatic "divine feminine" as some mediator between God and the world, and I have observed sophiologists affirming that human beings are essentially divine. There is a whole hotbed of heresy in the tendency, which has its representatives in Paul Vanderklay's "estuary". As for your query about Paul's "God number 1 and number 2", I guess Paul would give the response that both are aspects of the Holy Trinity as a unity, inseparable operations being the doctrinal term for the involvement of all three Persons in creation and salvation.

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I appreciate the attempt of these people to acquaint us with the church fathers, but I have never been witness to such ignorance on this subject.

he Fifth Council also officially condemned the problematic teachings of Origen (d. 254) OCA Bing Search

is no trinity God is one manifestado en la carne Amen.