I still can't believe they didn't win an award for this episode. It was so well done, from the writing, to directing, to the acting.... The whole cast blew me away and Colin Fickes in this scene, it broke my heart. It made me feel for him and understand why he did what he did, things aren't always black and white. This will always be one of the most memorable ep. for me and always just as sad and emotional. Also, I kinda forgave Dan by the end of the series but seeing this again makes me remember why I hated him so much.
heidos7 - Murderer's do not deserve to be forgiven, time makes people forget the pain they caused, but Keith will never get a Second chance, so why should Dan? Because Dan is still alive?
When he bangs on his chest, saying it hurts. No matter how many times I watch that scene, I always cry! I've seen what depression can do to people and it hurts!! Especially if it's someone very close to you!
So much. The way that he starts off trying to sound angry and independent, like, if everybody just at least ignored me, it would be fine. But then he confesses, in tears, to both Keith and really to himself as well I think, that he didn’t want to be ignored, he wanted to be liked. It feels weak to admit that you care what people think about you, especially at that age, but it’s something that everybody does care about at a level much deeper than they might even realize. It’s like Jimmy has been trying to hard, ever since Lucas and Skills and Mouth stopped hanging out with him, to pretend like he doesn’t need anyone. He lost his best friends, so he didn’t want to make new friends, because he didn’t want to make himself vulnerable to people to leaving him behind again. But in the end, we always need friends. It’s all that he wanted, and he’s finally accepting that.
@@geoffbruce8605 he also just admitted it to Dan. Idk, I think what hurt more was when Keith said that "he knows Jimmy and he's a good kid" when talking to Dan and Dan said "well he is now." I don't think he was a bad kid, just a troubled kid who was scared, angry, and upset at everything. I've been there before. I almost made a similarish mistake (wasn't a gun) while at school. Not a day goes by that I don't forget that moment where I almost made a mistake that I couldn't take back.
its amazing the amount of emotional depth jimmy's character envoked...he was a side character who wasnt particularily important and that ended up being the point and driving point of his character which was amazing...and bravo to the actor...amazing and raw and beautiful....when he says sorry and he exhales its just heartbreaking....u can just see how done he is...so sad
Man the scene where Jimmy said "it hurts" that got me and the disbelief on Keith's face when he sees Dan pointing the gun at him :( such a sad but memorable scene!!
I feel like what also helps you to sympathize with him is that Keith had known him since he was little and knows that he's not a bad kid just a scared and lost kid trying to figure it all out.
The show fleshes out gun plots involving kids and school. Unlike 7th heaven that made the stance on how violence in media/having bad parents equals future shooter (while a future episode did better), this one shows why things like this happens and doesn't make a shooter a one note villain.
This was the first episode of One Tree Hill that I watched & the fact that it made me cry, rethink my behaviour at school... this show will forever stay with me.
@@tylereverhart9423 I watched OTH as an adult and I never ever thought Dan killed his own brother. Like Kain and Abel. So intense. Especially back at that time it was something whole new.
I so wasnt expecting Dan killing Keith. Or Keith getting killed off in general. It was so heartbreaking. Then the way that they added in Jimmys story was amazing, but such a tragedy at the same time. This episode was truely amazing
because he thought keith tried to kill him but it wasn't true not that that's even a good reason to kill someone let alone your own brother who's one of the best people out there...
empathize ? I'm sorry but we all have problems, that does not mean we take a gun and start traumatizing people. Being bullied is bad, I agree, but there are people out there who go through worse, who die of hunger or because of war and would fight every day to stay alive. And the thought of people like this boy thinking they have the right to take the precious life of another human being makes me so angry.
VamosRafa we all have problems but that doesn't mean we should trivialize them. I'm pretty sure there are people in this world that have it worse than the people you just mentioned but does that make their problems any less important? I feel like if Jimmy had the right guidance or people to help him through this hell he wouldn't have done what he did. Thats where the "empathy" comes from. People are so quick to label other people as monster's without considering what got them to that point. This episode did something that most close-minded people with a black and white viewpoint don't do, they considered the perspective of the shooter and showed the human side of him and showed that he's just like us but just went down the wrong path. I'm not excusing school shootings but it pisses me off whenever people dismiss bullying so easily but then get all bent up and surprised when a victim retaliates. And then the dead automatically get deemed as "innocent" just because they died. That makes me mad
VamosRafa You also understand the thought of not being loved nor wanted. Nor thought about. You feel a certain way. You feel unchecked no guidance no nothing. Just sadness and despair. like he said a whole in his heart. But some people just dont deserve too live im sorry. Some people are hateful gorror. They are undignified etc. So i understand where he comee from. People or bullys are the usual reasons for school shootings am i right?
@VamosRafa - Your comment concern's me, many kid's go through what jimmy has gone through, i was one of those kid's and i alway's befriended those who had similar path's. No, i never thought about shooting up a school i was just strong enough to get through it, but not every situation or person is the same either. Jimmy didn't want to actually hurt anybody if you actually watched this episode, he just wanted to reverse what he has been going through onto the people who been making his life a living hell in school, to make them feel what he felt. If you had any understanding on psychology, and what can push someone to go over the edge, you would empathize, but it is because you don't understand in why you lack empathy for jimmy. We are a social species and we need eachother, without support a person can break, hurt themselves and/or hurt other's. Maybe you should think about that the next time you see a kid being bullied, instead of thinking atleast it ain't you, offer them support, you might be surprised how much that will be appreciated and how much it can change another person's life.
This was an important episode for all of us to watch. Hats off to the writers of the episode as well to the entire cast for their emotionally riveting performances.
stay strong guys, it's ok to ask for help, I'm 35, struggled since I was 15, started counseling for the first time a few months ago. Dont be afraid, reach out, get help, hang in there. it's ok.
@@brendanprimus3211 Counseling doesn’t help with anything. It’s just the psychologist listening to you and then telling you what you already know you have to do, and you have to pay for that. The best is to work on yourself. If you’re over weight work on your weight. If you’re getting bullied learn to bully back, don’t give a shit what they think. Learn to not be so emotional, cuz the strongest survive in our society, just like in the animal kingdom.
I just finished watching this series and so far it is definitely one of my top television shows ever. I remember watching this episode and from the beginning to the end, I was in tears. Especially during this scene. Good lawd.
+Mary James One Tree Hill was my everything growing up. And Now watching it again grown? I understand it more and realize what a great show it is the best ever
I think, the most tragedy of this story is, that everyone thought that Jimmy shot Keith... Most of all Lucas. Thanks to all the Kids out there, which were bullied and even didn´t the same thing, no matter how hard and cruel classmates are...
Eden Capwell-Castillo I was hated so much where I wanted to blow my own brains out of my head but if I did die my family would be crying an in pain so thankfully I stayed strong enough to fight back but take my life back now.
This was a very powerful episode. I was bullied in high school and had to be taken out of the school. I went to a private school for one year then my last year I went back to the school I was bullied at and graduated. The depression was the worst but I fought it all the way. You just have to hang in there.
I feel like that's why I felt bad for Lucas. All that time he was lead to believe that his own friend would kill his father figure and uncle when it was actually has father who killed him.
King AR3 dude ive lost ppl to suicide... man if you ever need anything this is my facebook name and please dont hesitate to hit me up mane.... legit like keith says, it gets better
King AR3 what the other person said people are always here for you , if you want to be my friend on facebook my name is Mikala Caringella & I've been where you are , there is always help , Keith's words in this helped me through it & I hope it helped you
Heartbreaking. When Dan picked up that gun, I kept thinking "He's not really gonna DO this!" :( The look on poor Keith's face. He understood what was gonna happen. He loved his brother regardless of their past. Amazing acting. The show deserved some recognition. Kinda went deeper than your typical "teen drama".
Ava Kousha I cried yhe most watching auch VISUAL HURT coming from Jimmy. HS is s oo hard. And he put out the most painful re-enactment of that type of pain, I have ever seen.. Keith Dying was sad.. But it was Jimmy's pain that made this.
+Royals You're right. It doesn't "get" better. Never. You have to *MAKE* it better! It's sad to say, but out of all the characters and stories in this show, Jimmy Edwards is the one I can relate to the most. I sometimes watch this episode and this scene in particular whenever I'm in one of my emotionally turbulent/self-loathing/self-pitying states. I'm 21 and I'm only just now starting to have a -satisfying- social life. It's not just school. If you were a shy, lonely, socially incompetent left out loner in high school, you'll be a shy, lonely, socially incompetent left out loner in college and/or you'll be a shy, lonely, socially incompetent left out loner at work. Unless you do something about it. I had to fight like hell to get where I'm at now, and I'm still a f*cking disaster! I'm a kissless virgin, never been to a party(not counting family ones), never had a real girlfriend, and I'm horribly lonely, as I always have been. I was/am often left out(or I feel as if I am-I know a lot of times I leave myself out), and when I want to talk to someone, a lot of the time, I have no idea what to say. I'm so indecisive. Even in my own head, I can't decide what to think or feel or do. It's hell. The hell I put myself through. I want out(I think) but I don't know what else to do.
I remember watching this episode, and it just.. I couldn't put into words how to made me feel. And now, even after all these years, I feel that same way. This whole episode still gets me like it's the first time all over again. I miss OTH so much.
One of the most difficult things to see in this episode is that his mother had no idea what he was going through 😔 depression is a silent killer and remembering that there is somebody always out there that can get people through depression is worth remembering
What he said on the time capsule was what made me concerned about him and I was right to be concerned. Honestly, I think him getting beat up the night before is what really put him over the edge too.
The ACTING! The despair on Jimmy's face. He didn't really wanna hurt anyone. He was just a lost, hurting kid. Keith knew that. That's why he tries to talk to him. That soul crushing twist, though. When Jimmy dies and Dan picks up that gun, my heart sank. One of the best, most heartbreaking episodes in the entire show.
Omg this episode is so good. It affects the storyline so much throughout the show. Like with Keith dying, Dan starting to change because of his mistakes, Peyton and Lucas getting together, Marcus changing for the better ect. Honestly I can't see one flaw with this episode
It’s great acting at 2:09 by Keith how you can see and hear in his voice that he’s sensing more urgency in the situation. It’s subtle, and he tries to remain calm, but he realizes that Jimmy is starting to spiral and that he needs to do something soon.
Been watching through this series for the first time… just got to this and just damn. Keith was by far my favorite character and I was so happy his life was finally turning around. 😔 But his last moments were as heroic as heroic gets.
Now that I’m older I look at this scene differently... there’s no way in the world Dan would have gone off freely lol Forensics or autopsy team can clearly and easily determine cause of death of Jimmy to be suicide. Angle of bullet or even burnt skin for putting the gun into his chest and also how the bodies fell. Not to even mention finger prints. Plus how in the world was Dan allowed to enter into the hallway. I didn’t know Mayor’s had special privileges to pass through an active shooter scene lol Oh the joys of growing older
If that is true how come so many people get away with murder. this was a trajedy and people aren't ganna question who killed who so there will be no investigation and Dan is there to stop it if ever ganna be one.
Well the shooter could've offed himself after shooting Keith. Dan could've wiped his prints off, and he could've entered the school when the swat team was busy frisking Lucas.
The forensic team ain't gonna know who died first. They would have ruled it a murder suicide and called it a day. Also Dan used the special privileges to get Keith into the school.
No-one really knew Dan was in there but they would've been able to see his finger prints on the gun if they had analyzed it which idk if they would've even done because only one person witnessed him in the building with Keith. That and people will believe almost anything though especially after a tragedy.
It does go away. I wish every kid going through something would learn that. As you get older you realize that those things from high school dont matter anymore. I wish everyone could think like that in high school. Man this is so important and this episode hurts so much.
This is very first time I saw an interpretation of disassociation as a teen. When he said “I’m not here”, it’s painful to watch now because I experienced it so many times years later.
Never watched One Tree Hill was flipping through the channels back in 2006 when this episode came on. This episode is what made me start watching OTH. It's my favorite episode because how well written and acted it is. It's powerful and sad. This scene made me cry when I first watched it and still make me cry every time I rewatch the series. When I finally watched the show from the beginning it made me mad and sad that they killed Keith off I knew what his ending would be but I still rooted for Karen and Keith and wanted them to have a happy ending. It just makes the episode a lot more sadder.
This has stuck with me for so long. It helped me cope when my uncle took his life. And its helped when I was so close to taking my own. I am thankful Mainstream media is at times able to address such real and intense emotions and feelings.
It’s weird to think kids had these problems back then too. When you watch videos from high schools from like 20+ years ago it all looks so fun and everyone talking and joking around without any internet or phone bs.
This is such a powerful episode. Poor Jimmy. He didn't really wanna hurt anybody. He was just scared and hurting so badly. And when Dan aimed that gun at Keith my heart stopped. I didn't think he'd really do it. "Surely to God you're not that much of a monster Dan. Please no." Devastating episode. Amazing acting from everyone
As as person that was dealt with bullying and loneliness in the past, I felt sympathy for Jimmy and had I actually not gotten the help I needed the acceptance that I desperately wanted, I would’ve been in the same position as him, this go for show that you should always be with your people that suffer from loneliness and depression no matter how annoying and clingy they may be
The darkness is called depression and exile. And people not noticing. People loose theyre way, Some find theyre path some dont. Thanks to many reasons.
I still have to skip this episode. My whole body hurts when I watch it. I know the pain they were trying to get across with jimmy. The pain that so many teens face everyday. Such a sad episode. But so beautifully done. The actor nailed it.
rewatching this show for the second time and i just saw this episode and it hurt just as much as it did the first time. it still got to me especially because Keith was such a good guy, one of my favorite characters. he didn’t deserve to die at all, with finally being with the love of his life and was even going to adopt Lucas. this episode was by far the most memorable and the cast did such a good job. RIP Jimmy Edwards and Keith Scott you’ll always be in our OTH hearts
One of the saddest episodes I’ve ever watched. Jimmy’s pain is heartbreaking to watch and it’s even more heartbreaking that situations like these are happening all the time today.
Just watching this scene brings up the moment where I first watched this and learned that “it gets better” my dad died in 2003 and searched for the better and almost 17 years later I can say it’s hard live without him but I do see the better. Keith was an amazing character another great tv dad
One of the most heart touching episodes in Television history... We see the pain that one goes through. We see that life is precious and that it’s fragile. It can end in only one moment....
This youtube clip is the reason I started one tree hill. This episode deserves an emmy, academy award etc. It is brilliant and one of the best TV episodes I have ever seen. This scene has brilliant acting by Colin Fickes and Craig Sheffer and the voice-over by Chad is great too. I can't believe Jimmy and Keith are gone. I love this episode and have watched it about six times and I still get scared when Jimmy and Dan pull the trigger. RIP Jimmy Edwards and Keith Scott.
I loved this episode. it's so powerful. this and 2 other episodes made me bawl so hard and that tells you how good and powerful they were. miss this show
