Overwatch 2 Tiktoks that are the HOTTEST of Hot Takes 

“Supports are dpsing too much when they should be healing” “I’m a gm zenyatta main”

stereotypes are all we know we're incapable of nuance /j

oh dough content has always seemed very targeted to me tbh, so i expected him to call out a vid on supports to claim is objectively wrong when it probably doesn’t even work in his argument

This dude may be good at the game, but he is an absolute moron. Flats isn't the divine speaker of balance, for all levels of skill, for all roles and heroes, now and in the future, since 2016 til the day Overwatch dies. He even thinks "don't take his word as gospel" is a scornful insult because he himself felt threatened by a tiktok guy telling casual players to not apply OWL's stale meta to every single game they play. Meta isn't concrete, it relies more on perception than the actual game. During actual cash-prize tournaments, you would have to be absurdly bold not to play meta. But for fun? At home, with the only stakes being your rank? Stylosa SHOULD give advice for hero synergies, or gameplay tips, but instead he assumes entire 5v5 compositions with perfect comms and knowledge of the game when he discusses balance. Oh, and equal skill level too, which doesn't happen anywhere. Either OWL allows certain characters to be non-viable for tournaments, doing what they can with the game, OR they demand all heroes be equally viable for them, because they have influence and fuck the millions who play for fun. You can't balance both, you literally can't. Seeing weird shakeups or non-meta stuff in tournaments is precisely what makes watching them fun and exciting. OWL is a bore, they refuse to defy meta. They play like robots, act like robots, then come home and clickbait on YT and TTV for more cash.

I’m with you brother. This guys a clown

Indeed, he is incredibly silly

i dont think any of us support players claim him lmao

This dude literally said bro in his vids too lmao, it all checks out

Fr ohdough has the weirdest support takes

​@@toastiboi7618 back when he played Apex he had some decent takes, he just doesn't understand anything overwatch and it's sad to see him try giving advice on something he doesn't understand

He’s playing the support with the worst healing and complaining about other people not healing

@@notaperson1557 he was already weird in the apex community, dude is a living drama bait

Nah dps harder

@@merkkkalmost sojourn has entered the chat

@GIGACHAD you're right they do, and that's what separates the high and low level supports, but I'd say a lot of support players can get away without good mechanical skills since most of their kits don't require great aim, Ana excluded, whereas if the DPS can't land their shots, then they're automatically a bad DPS since that's their job

@@shundoraud3908 mechanical skill in my opinion is a thousand times easier than splitting focus and resource management. With dps all you have to do is hit your shots and not put yourself into bad positions. With support you have to do all this, with less movement options, less damage, less duelling potential and also worry about being targeted and keeping consistent heals while also not being a heal bot. Genuinely playing dps well with characters like Ashe, mei, genji, reaper or junk rat is leagues easier than playing a good Baptist, Ana, zenyatta, or brigitte. So while there are characters that are certainly harder or easier to play on both roles to me at least the good supports are simply harder to play then the good dps’s. Of course as a support you can play brainless characters like mercy or Moira and still have a huge impact, but when it comes down to it, if it comes down to which roles are easier to do well with, even if supports have a greater relative impact it’s still harder to master in my opinion. I genuinely don’t understand how anyone who’s decent at the game can think that playing Ashe or genji or reaper is easier than playing Baptist or Ana.

@@merkkkalmostDps has a lot of lazy picks/easy picks to use, as long as you understand what your hero can do your good to go. Just go Soldier and play call of duty like dps is braindead easy, tank and support is infinitely harder. If you call dps hard ong your just getting diffed, go play moira with your feet and you'll play better

Had a DPS on my team say support diff when we lost. The first round of the game he had zero kills…

“Your dpsing to much” my brother in Christ I’m trying to live

I had a guy tell me that I needed to heal more as moira, as we won, I got potg, had top elims, top damage, and top healing. Like yes ill just carry even harder next time?

Exactly how I feel when my team told me to heal more and said that the enemy hog had more healing then me, was probably one of the dumbest things I've heard anyone say considering how broken hog is because of his healing. Also not to mention our Echo kept dying to a Widow Maker up close, not even getting snipped by her, so I had to always go and kill her to protect me and our Mercy

"support stop killing people and heal more" "cant heal what's dead, mor*n"

No joke I had some kid in my game yesterday who had more damage as moira than he had healing, and our mercy was practically solo healing bc of it, and I asked him if he could help heal more and he said "it's called support not healer" and I said cool kid I watch Flats too, learn how to fucking balance heals and damage. He didn't say anything after that. He kept fading into the enemy backline and dying. Dude had like 13K damage at the end of the game with like 6K healing. Fucking disgusting. He then blamed our DPS (I was on tank and was playing sigma/hog on junkertown to try and stay alive a bit more) I hope that's not the kind of moira you are, Spencer

The only hero who should healbot rather than damage is Kiriko

@@ballsinyurjaws9809 lol

@@ballsinyurjaws9809 Sadly yes. Playing Kiriko like bap with cycling dps and heals is fun but it's way more optimal to just hold left click

@@owl8185 yeah i love kiriko and getting headshots, but she is the best healbot, you farm your ult so fast just by healing

Your logic makes no sense

TRUE. Maximum cringe

Tbh, those videos are always adorable lol

Ligit

i mean he then says he mains zen...who is ONLY about fragging lol

He must be salty that the other support focusing on healing the dps and tank and not his dps Zen ass

Except he never said that, but alright, wathever makes you happy.

@@AndreyGP he did?

@@toastiboi7618 He only said you should know when to heal and when to deal damage, which is obvious but that's what he said.

"buy himself"

Bro's got the strategy

Why is he buying himself did someone else own him?

Not our job to keep you alive, that's yours, we just help the process

@@austinwinters8976 1v5ing a team by yourself isn't helping the process; 1v2 at most if it's their backline supports.

The stylosa video was hot shit though. "Punish the enemy for diving the supports," "Give them 800 hp" and the dude says support is low impact while only playing MORIA AND MERCY. That video was the first and worst bad take I have ever seen from the man. He should have said the reasons, but the backlash was justified

@natereynolds2783 true. I was confused he was only focusing on mercy and Moira. They're not even that meta.

@@natereynolds2783 Alright well he could have worded it better, the dude in this video just is so mean spirited and deconstructive

@@xXEGPXx Yeah. He should have. Honestly if he provided the original audio, everyone would have reacted better. IDK why he didn't do that, but even still, being that mean was unnecessary

@@xXEGPXx that's ohdough now, he's never been the same after what happened with Dauntless

I don't think people have their ears clean to listen to his explanations just one word he mentions then people goes Karen mode

Hog and Ball operate in the same sphere of influence now, create space, get a pick instantly and roll the fight with it. Your team has to be able to play around the times you can't get a pick, the times where you're not being a "tank" (ball roaming around in the back or hog not peeking for his heals when cooldowns are off etc) they're essentially just a 3rd dps roll than a tank

@@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong problem is ball is too underpowered, he struggles to get picks plus can't displace enough to disrupt the enemy team that much

@@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong The problem is that to get a pick with ball you have to swing in, boop, piledrive, pop adaptive shield usually, burst down with the primary, roll out all without getting stunned at all. Hog, you aim the hook and shoot and melee to finish. Ball definitely needs some tweaks to make him better, although I might be biased as a ball enjoyer.

Guys I mean no offence, but Ball is pretty balanced, he creates alot of space and can get picks rather easy, if you have good target priority, if you are struggling with easy picks then your not diving the right target. Also using all your CD as ball is just wrong, your positioning is bad or your being to aggressive, there's a time to dive and a time to tank.

Before I'd say no, just need to learn positioning. However, the current meta being like "dead by daylight" for support players, it's more of a challenge now. I actually like playing Ana so I don't mind it, but I swear to God almost every match I'm playing against a roadhog that just hunts me down no matter what support im on, and my teammates aren't going to do much to help me so I just have to play either ana to sleep him and nade, or play moira to escape. I hate hog Edit: UPDATE, today I played Ana in competitive against a Hog, and I kept using my cooldowns on the hog to shut him down (we had a wrecking ball) the Hog player told me he "hopes I die in a fatal car crash" verbatim. A little redundant but anyway

When I play support I just hunt the enemy. Nobody expects the supports to not run for their lives - and supports low key have some of the best duelling kits in the game with both cc, sustain, and offensive utility (some more than others ofc). Honestly as a dps main who flexes both tank and support, it really doesn't come off as difficult to turn the tables on anyone who thinks they can bully supports for free without them standing their ground.

Honestly. It gets harder the higher you go since DPS will actually hit their shots on you and enemy teams know you gotta focus the support.

@@masift1494 yeah, I'm also an ana main. Ya get heavy targetted and ya get 1 shot all the time man it's sad times.

@@Secretill yeah :( the sleep cooldown buff helps somewhat, that extra second saved me a few times the other day

I actually like that part of OWL. I'm sure there are differences between Esports orgs and reasons that people like some of them over others, but they all seem the exact same to me. With the city/state thing, I actually have a reason to root for one team over anything else

I agree, in Apex I can recognize teams like NRG, TSM, Team Liquid etc... For a couple years after the beggining of OWL I didn't know NRG owned SF shock. If they just had normal org names then smaller orgs could play and also bigger orgs would be recognized

@@elitilton7015 Sure its kinda neat but it makes it a much harder sell for existing esports orgs to jump into the ring when part of that process is forfeiting brand loyalty, OWL is shooting itself in the foot as far as expansion is concerned

It's hilarious that there are teams that "represent" American cities in the name but whose rosters consists 100% of players from another continent who don't speak English. But anyway, the fact that the professional esports side of OW is gatekept strictly by Blizzard's League is silly and limiting.

I mean, it gives you a reason to root for one team as opposed to another if you're from a certain state/city. Personally I wanted to be a Glads or Valiant fan because I am from LA but I was more drawn to the LH players than the ones on the glads or the valiant, so I became a Seoul fan. However someone without that background knowledge would just pick a team based on their city or some occasions their play/success.

Also remember to drop shields because if you hold shield during a shatter you take increased damage

You'll also heal for full if you jump infront of it at 1hp

You also gain ult charge if you shoot at the shield instead of the target

It is HANDS down the easiest role. I'm BRAND NEW and I've hit Diamond on Support and can't break silver on DPS. Same on tank. I've had NO problems climbing support. Every 7 wins I jump 2 ranks without question. If a BRAND new player can climb on support then that proves enough tbh. I've never touched OW before until this one and I've never had an easier time climbing on support. There is NOTHING to keep track of at all. Teammate low? Heal. Not low? Dps. Brain dead. The few abilities you have that will impact the game is LITERALLY remembering to just press the button. Half the time doesn't even matter what direction. I main Kiriko/Ana/Bap. Absolutely brain dead.

Support is clearly the easiest lore, by as much as in ow1? No, but still the easiest. Remember that easiest doesn’t mean “so much easier”

Support is so easy, just play moira, you literally don't die AND you get top damage/healing.

People say support is the easiest while not having to worry about the entire team targeting you

@@cagxplays9602 the opinion of anyone on moira's dick can be immediately discarded as trash. I bet you get confused when you still lose despite having bigger numbers.

Well, he is not to be trusted so...

Exactly. I wish more supports were built around more active game play, where the supports get to shoot enemies to get value. Like instead of heal botting you have to deal damage to heal team mates.

@@tatuvarvemaa5314 brig?

@@tatuvarvemaa5314 literally Brigitte

@@alexknight81 Obviously with high mechanical skill demand. Just because its on a stupid character doesent mean it cant work on a well designed character.

@@tatuvarvemaa5314 oh I don't disagree, I'm just saying that a character like you describe does exist already, not judging wether she is good or not

What's your rank?

I personally dislike him he just seems like a dick

@@ceriani1234 hoes mad

He could be bronze 5 and this would still be true bro every other supp has skill shots/ and or a utility to the team. Zens utility is murder and denying dps ults discord is a great debuff but it doesn’t take any skill to apply it to someone

@@Z_tarkov That's rich, that's incredibly rich, you say that as if it takes any skill to use Cadeus Staff and buff a Soujourn to help invalidate the entire roster except Bastion and the tanks. Oh what's that? You actually have to manage your orbs as a Zenyatta? Instead of pressing LMB or RMB to just sit there and buff someone as a point and click adventure? Gee golly, it's almost like every support just has a button they can press that only takes a modicum of brain power to effectively use. I'm sorry, but all supports are generally on the same level of skill, some just require more mechanical skill while others need more strategic skill. The only downside of support is you're public enemy #1, and even then; over half the supports have a get out of jail free card.

Honestly it was fated to be since ow decided to be 5v5 format. Characters designed for 6v6 don't work for 5v5 wow look at that. To be honest i think paladins does it better for 5v5 format. Tanks are not so strong so when you are picking only off tank your chance of winning will be low but here is the catch you can sacrifice one support/DPS role for main tank and it's actually balanced(kinda at least its still hi rez). Ps. I know what i said is just open que but c'mon.

But another hog, sleep dart, anti heal, any sort of stun or boop is a fucking counter to him. Stfu 🤣

@@FransizSefKurbaga paladins was so much fun, all of the roles actually felt good to play. Best part about it was the card system so you could literally change the playstyle of any character. I wish overwatch would take some more inspiration from paladins. If paladins had developers that actually cared, it would have been the significantly greater game.

@@cagxplays9602 it felt like a childrens version of overwatch and looked like it in the pro scene too. the mechanics and game sense needed are 10x lower than overwatch which makes it much more casual, and therefore more enjoyable no matter what you play

Easiest to do your job hardest to carry games

My man is trying to flex his non existant rank, he literally plays DPS Zen and just shoots out a healing orb when he remembers that Zen can heal

i used to watch ohdough and i think he actually is gm, however his takes are pretty schizophrenic right now.

@@hoodless_1 he has shitty takes on all games, when he played apex he seemed alright then he said that smurfing is good and it doesn't ruin the game for no one lmao

well he is gm and you are not top 500 so

@@denjii9 you are really on every reply defending your boyfriend huh 💀

The mental damage of being consistently picked as a Zen probably damaged his soul

Oh definitely! Indeed! If you were around from the beginning, Ana was insane with nano in like season 2 or 3 of comp and the beayblade and rein nano was born! 😆 then brig came out and changed all kinds of stuff too! It was like a super brawl meta then! 😅

@@optiTHOMAS Exactly. And lets not forget sniper metas (mercy boost/ Zen discord), the Moth meta, and big bad Goats (3 tanks/ 3 supports with ALL the aoe healing). Baps immortality field and window both had team comps that were centered around those abilities as well... and Lucio/ Kiriko provide crucial speed boosts that enable multiple meta comps as well. Heck, even Moira was meta defining at times, it was rare but happened nonetheless.

@@peterpan4038 yeah, well said! I remember people really getting sick of goats! 😅 crazy times, man!

Hell lucio is very arguably stronger than kiriko. Very few people know how he plays tho.

@@billyjoelbeans Speed is a valuable ability for sure, especially with the right comp.

I imagine Quake is hoping people believe the Doom tips too.

@@bazzfromthebackground3696 Those poor souls.

@@billyjoelbeans they also don't know who to bunny hop with him, it's hard I'm still learning.

tbf there's not much you need to be aware of, but you'll learn to listen to footsteps much more and you'll have to prioritize healing a lot of the time, some people aren't worth healing I'm sorry, if it comes down to it I'd rather save my other support than a dps but yeah it's not easy but it's not taht bad

Support mains unite ✊

People who complain about a role they are actively choosing to play unite ✊

I mean the other roles are more important but the supports hold it all together, every role has their own impact.

@@badmajik7 instead of complaining I've quit the game. So GG bud enjoy longer queues as more people quit the role and the game

@@deusvult6920 Trust me I barely play the game much anymore in its current state, but if support mains bitch so much over how they HAVE to do their job as support, just go play another role or another game, nobody really cares. Playing support in overwatch isn't some struggle lmao

Weird argument, but decent. Supports are getting tired of dealing with tank/dps sh*t arguments.

lmao

Are you some troll or something?

@@Sergmanny46 I wish

good luck !

In classic wow, resto shaman is a ‘healer’ that has an assload of utility. I get why ppl push the term ‘support’ but not everyone who says ‘healer’ means ‘healbot’ so ppl shouldn’t assume the worst if someone says ‘healer’

Healers in eso are mainly just stat boosters with buffs and debuffs. ESO does a good job with classes having self sustain. Overwatch is just straight healing and like about half the supports actually have utility💀

Wrong. There is always someone in the other team that is worse. Or it is you. All depends on who you're up against. They don't heal enough, they dps too much, they don't actually kill anyone, etc etc. Tired of these same arguments every time, people have nothing new to say.

From the simplest stand point Support is technically the easiest role.

You can uninstall the game and keep watching Flats. What is your point?

@@Tetragramix He's a funny guy, even if I lose interest in the content. Did it need to be explained...?

As someone who can't aim for s***, I'd replace sojourn with reaper

Your studies must be going well, because that doesn't look weird to me, a native speaker. :)

It's extra funny because he plays zen, who barely heals and instead SUPPORTS the team with discord orb and dps

But…how can it be cap when he showed his rank? What, did he photoshop it for a tiktok?

@@luxthewriter The thing about liars is that they lie. They'll lie about anything just to demonstrate the control they have or manipulate others. No job too big, no score too small. Just because it's a TikTok does not make it immune to a lie. I'm not saying he did, just that, if he has lied in the past, there is nothing to stop him lying on a clips app.

about this, sometimes playing something you're good at is better, i get more healing done as zen because i understand him more