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Pathological Gaslighting Examined: James Saroka And His Girlfriend 

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[NEWS: Kaitlin is no longer James Saroka's girlfriend, they've split up!! Huge relief!]
James Saroka, a guy with a channel on Periscope, gives us a great example of gaslighting when he gaslights his girlfriend Kaitlin. I think James's behaviour is abusive and that he exhibits traits found in people with Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Like all narcissistic abuse, gaslighting is a way to manipulate a person to the abuser's advantage. Gas lighting gives us the feeling we can't trust ourselves or our experiences and that there is something wrong with the way we interpret the world around us and our senses. When someone is gaslighted many times by a narcissist, they can experience something called 'Learned Helplessness' which I'll be looking at in another video soon.

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@mudaphuga
@mudaphuga 4 года назад
Ew he’s literally the word “ew” in physical form
@msphil4life
@msphil4life 4 года назад
That's what he believes.....
@winonaevergarden1981
@winonaevergarden1981 4 года назад
Im screaming haha
@thatlthatjiminhandedeverya1018
@thatlthatjiminhandedeverya1018 4 года назад
the personification of “ew”
@nagromwolrah4910
@nagromwolrah4910 3 года назад
Ewwwww!!!!!!
@SueP-D
@SueP-D 3 года назад
Lol 😂. I’m gonna use that one! Thanks! 😉
@tiffanyswensen9490
@tiffanyswensen9490 4 года назад
I don't know who this guy is, but I HATED him in the first 30 seconds of hearing him speak.
@x0kitty
@x0kitty 4 года назад
unrelated sorry but you’re so pretty!
@kennedymeow
@kennedymeow 3 года назад
Same!
@sinceresong9907
@sinceresong9907 3 года назад
Yes!!!...Git
@carmenc8103
@carmenc8103 3 года назад
Tom Cruise cousin. haha
@eat0dirt495
@eat0dirt495 3 года назад
I'm normally not violent but he just brings out the anger in me. Grade A piece of shit
@strown27
@strown27 4 года назад
Little do she know, he needs her more then she needs him.
@mina8XO
@mina8XO 4 года назад
Its not her responsibilty nor job to fix him and stay in a toxic relationship...
@strown27
@strown27 4 года назад
Romi F Agreed, but i think you missed my point...
@nickask6637
@nickask6637 4 года назад
Tricky situation
@strown27
@strown27 4 года назад
Nick Ask.. her lack of confidence validates his narcissism.
@thehousespouse
@thehousespouse 3 года назад
Unless he finds a replacement for supply
@kayaye7481
@kayaye7481 4 года назад
“If you weren’t comfortable talking about it in public, you shouldn’t have shared it with me in private” what the actual faahhhhhh this guy seems like a nightmare
@kennedymeow
@kennedymeow 3 года назад
Yes. An absolute nightmare.
@Killer-Qu33n
@Killer-Qu33n 3 года назад
Never in my life have I wanted to beat someone’s ass like I do this twerp. Is he famous or something?
@kayaye7481
@kayaye7481 3 года назад
@Venetta Thomas what’s crazy is that he spent his entire childhood being spoiled rotten by his adoptive parents. Got everything he wanted, treated his mom like sh**, always in trouble at school, never wanted to work & they still gave him everything! (His adoptive siblings were all a lot older & out of the house so he was basically a “spoiled only child”. And YES. I know he was abused as a baby but was in a loving family by like 18 months I think they said. - yes I know that still has an effect on a person but still, he was a spoiled,selfish, lazy, attention-seeking brat & still is !
@kayaye7481
@kayaye7481 3 года назад
@Venetta Thomas dammit I can’t remember which interview it was but there’s a girl who went to school with him & said all about how he never showered, was super-ultra creepy with girls at school & flipped out when they didn’t like him back, he argued with every teacher & told them they knew nothing & he knew everything...how his parents begged him to work on their like million dollar farm during Pumpkin patch season but the guests complained all he did was hit on all the girls/women.... it’s basically everything you would have assumed but like... times ten. - oh! Also he stole basically everything of value out of his mom’s house & a bunch of her money.. many times... so his much older brother told him he was never welcome back there. - so when he says his family is / was awful ... yeah no. They gave him a million chances to not be awful.
@eruditeinteractions8258
@eruditeinteractions8258 3 года назад
This kind of person is taxing to live with... run kaitlin!
@phuck8627
@phuck8627 4 года назад
it's weird to see someone being so openly abusive like that
@insidiousmischka
@insidiousmischka 3 года назад
He is scary. He needs therapy, pills, whatever. I hope the girl’s parents/friends see this and open her eyes about this abuser.
@puccipuu1797
@puccipuu1797 3 года назад
insidiousmischka don’t think her parents are any better.
@tymondabrowski12
@tymondabrowski12 3 года назад
@@puccipuu1797 they apparently reported her as missing three years ago and took her out from the policy station in another state I think, after that guy got arrested for publicly beating her while she was pregnant. So maybe they were better, they just didn't know what was happening. We can't say without more imfo. Edit: ok so apparently they also lived together in her parents house, so there might be more info on her parents somewhere and it's just me not knowing things.
@FlyingcupNsourcer
@FlyingcupNsourcer 2 года назад
@@tymondabrowski12 I've heard that they are/were abusive too, but to a lesser extent. His love bombing must have made the blitz look like a slight hailstorm.
@neige4221
@neige4221 Год назад
I know covert narcissists and this scene would never happen. They only do this in private.
@thislisa
@thislisa 4 года назад
I don't know who these people are but this guy is hard to watch.
@LiveAbuseFree
@LiveAbuseFree 4 года назад
I didn't either. Yes, I agree!
@SueP-D
@SueP-D 4 года назад
Painful to watch. Cringey.
@mariepichler2758
@mariepichler2758 4 года назад
Yes I get such a bad gut feeling watching him....😬😬😬iiiiihhhhhh
@hallowedbethymelancholy8299
@hallowedbethymelancholy8299 4 года назад
I think part of that uncomfortability is that his mood is so extreme & unpredictable & his thought processes so out of touch with reality. I feel like I want to reach through the screen & get his GF out of there & to safety the entire time I'm watching. :(
@stewybagodonuts817
@stewybagodonuts817 4 года назад
thislisa james jim saroka feetpeace. Search it anywhere
@rhythmnblues9195
@rhythmnblues9195 4 года назад
This guy really gives off a lot of abusive vibes and it’s so sad because you can see the joy of this girl’s face leave when he suddenly begins to be cruel...I’m really worried for her.
@xXHush
@xXHush 4 года назад
It’s so sad, he’s breaking her soul.
@crystalwaters7978
@crystalwaters7978 4 года назад
Reminds me of my ex ...
@rhythmnblues9195
@rhythmnblues9195 4 года назад
Crystal Waters me too...
@ChadDidNothingWrong
@ChadDidNothingWrong 4 года назад
I can certainly see why youd feel bad for her, but I wouldn't be worried about her. You gotta give the girl a little credit there... (What im saying is shes surely got her limits, and just by some miracle he apparently hasn't crossed them yet...but also i wouldnt consider his attitude to be so much dangerous as I would emotionally hurtful and sleazy.) Edit: didnt realize they were married; im a bit concerned for her now...
@mindysue1802
@mindysue1802 4 года назад
I thought the EXACT SAME THING. It's like she got scared.
@limlrumerl-6922
@limlrumerl-6922 4 года назад
"I want to change you because I love you" - I know this sentence way to well. Absolutely disgusting people like this.
@misss299
@misss299 4 года назад
This hits home so much
@JonDoe-uq1mk
@JonDoe-uq1mk 4 года назад
Yes, I can relate to this so much. I've met so many people who definitely without a doubt have Narcissistic Personality Disorder. They make up about 1% of the world's population after all.
@cerenb7909
@cerenb7909 4 года назад
Jon Doe sure its way more
@Stumpybear7640
@Stumpybear7640 4 года назад
If someone says this to you, run!
@caitlinpaige5731
@caitlinpaige5731 3 года назад
“You go lie at college” Sounds like he’s envious she goes to college and he hasn’t?
@puccipuu1797
@puccipuu1797 3 года назад
She never went because of him.
@guysgirlswelcomeon8593
@guysgirlswelcomeon8593 3 года назад
College is where they met, they met at the Catholic Campus Ministry at Bloomsburg University in PA. She was 18 at the time and he was 24. He had attempted college more than once but kept dropping out. I think she only completely 1 semester during her Freshman year and then he talked her into dropping out and running away with him - they ran away in March of 2019 and as of this post they are still on the run. He isolates her from her friends and family, he controls who she can speak to. This is all very well documented and what I’ve written isn’t even an ounce of the full story, he truly is a monster.
@Finneganbeginagain1
@Finneganbeginagain1 3 года назад
@@guysgirlswelcomeon8593 actually her parents gave him a place to stay. They developed a relationship while he was staying at her family home. The college thing is that is something she actually wants to do. He uses that because he doesn't want her to go because of the threat of her being in the real world and realizing how manipulative he is and he can't let that happen. She's afraid he'll break up with her if she goes to school and she's in so deep that she can't imagine life without him. He's isolated her to the point that she has no one in her life except him.
@cdees
@cdees 2 дня назад
@@puccipuu1797 She actually did!
@roslynday9155
@roslynday9155 4 года назад
He's obsessed with her humiliation
@vanessasouthern1792
@vanessasouthern1792 4 года назад
This person is delusional. And cruel. The young woman comes across as lovely and genuine.
@heavenscents1
@heavenscents1 4 года назад
He seems more like a psycho and she should run 🏃‍♀️fast away from him !!
@guinevereinthefield176
@guinevereinthefield176 4 года назад
Precisely why he did what he did. She has better energy than him and is better looking. He’s horrible.
@ashleygallo6265
@ashleygallo6265 3 года назад
That man is scary
@supersgamers59
@supersgamers59 4 года назад
Anyone else thinks he is not very smart?
@weeannie495
@weeannie495 4 года назад
Phoenix A* Phiri No but, dangerous
@julianacarwile7057
@julianacarwile7057 4 года назад
But Man always do stuff like this . Trump is the presidente of USA. So... That shit flyes.
@janelleshea421
@janelleshea421 4 года назад
Juliana Carwile I’ve never met any man on his level. And I feel sorry if you have come across clearly more than one like him. You deserve better
@haakmaaraan6075
@haakmaaraan6075 4 года назад
Everybody but himself doesn’t think he is smart
@IWishUDidntNoMyName
@IWishUDidntNoMyName 4 года назад
@Mathz Knight He believes in what he's saying so much that of course everyone would agree with him. He seems more arrogant than smart.
@nunya257
@nunya257 4 года назад
I literally don’t know what this guy is talking about. He just repeated what she said but said she was lying. I can’t imagine being involved in this situation. He’s talking in circles.
@angelofdeath275
@angelofdeath275 4 года назад
Nun Ya honestly dont bother delving into his crap. he gaslights to hell and back
@kora4185
@kora4185 4 года назад
Narcissists do this constantly. They’re a labyrinth without a way out.
@MadMax22
@MadMax22 4 года назад
Yea, now imagine have it be your mom who’s abusive and controls all the power. She literally talks in circles. You can’t insult my mom but that won’t stop her from saying she should’ve gotten an abortion if her kids were going to grow up to be so disrespectful. When in reality she’s probably been doing something hella unhealthy that helps her feel better and puts us down. And our disrespect is pointing it out and asking for fair treatment. The absolute worst part is that she fricken constructs a story to tell to her friends and the community turning any allies we could’ve had into our enemies. And once there is a possibility that they’ll see the truth and support us. My mom will bitch and scream and shoo them away like they were rats on the ground. My respect for her dwindles with each day. And every single one of my siblings including me has at one point attempted suicide. I’m so emotionally numb that my sister just drove my fucking car off the road and into a river. And how could I respond? Well I can’t. This is normal to me. I’ve been through this before I’ve practiced staying calm. But how am I supposed to respond to that in a good way when a couple weeks earlier my sister beat the shit out of me for telling her she can’t just beat my other sister up because she’s angry and while I wanted to control the situation my Mom wanted to play fucking pretend parent but the disguise immediately disappears because we aren’t people we are just her children and she gets pissed off over like one word buried within my explanation of the situation. I’ve got no patience for her or her god damn mental ticks and traumas when all she can do is inflict pain and suffering to the point where every single one of my siblings except for one has tried to commit suicide.
@isrulius
@isrulius 4 года назад
꧁ C ꧂ B CA
@sakura_mw
@sakura_mw 3 года назад
Right? She said if one wants to donate eggs, they have to inject oneself with hormones, and then he gets upset, calls her a liar to "protect herself" and says the exact same thing. There was no lie smh
@tuenamarie9833
@tuenamarie9833 4 года назад
He is jealous of her. An energy vampire. He sounds so crazy to me. And these people are Everywhere 👀
@akehapkap6143
@akehapkap6143 3 года назад
It makes me quite sick. Would never watch things like this.
@warrior4him2.07
@warrior4him2.07 3 года назад
Bingo!
@truthmerchant1
@truthmerchant1 4 года назад
I dread to think what he's like towards her when the camera isn't running.
@yemaubiparrish2489
@yemaubiparrish2489 4 года назад
I bet he’s still the same cause yk “ his private life is in for the public blah blah 😒 “
@truthmerchant1
@truthmerchant1 4 года назад
@@yemaubiparrish2489 I'm thinking hes a lot worse in private because he can get away with things that he would be arrested for if he did them in public.
@alimcnabb1300
@alimcnabb1300 3 года назад
We know he beats her off camera.
@js5787
@js5787 3 года назад
He probably makes her call him "sir" or "master" and he fancies himself as a Dom. I would love to "humiliate" this waste of DNA, and leave him a puddle on the floor as he licks my boots, when that is accomplished, I would step over that quivering jellyfish and leave.
@QuietBloom
@QuietBloom 3 года назад
He might actually be nicer to her when the cameras are NOT running, because he wants to capture her reactions on camera. It’s all about the emotional reactions for him, both hers and the audience’s.
@toasted_.coconut
@toasted_.coconut 4 года назад
I dont understand who this person even is. But wow I've never felt so uncomfortable watching a couple before. I wonder, does she see what WE see? He's so manipulative.
@couponinserts8733
@couponinserts8733 4 года назад
Amanda Williams hes a known scammer, liar and con thats been on periscope for 5yrs. Several have for years been calling him out. Kate is his young girlfriend he sought out at church and destroyed her family. Kates moms channel is katelyn be safe (or kate besafe) her parents have tried many many times to help get her even offered jimmy $1k a month to go and stay away. Its so so sad
@ladennayoung2939
@ladennayoung2939 4 года назад
More then likely she don't see it. Because these people will gaslight you. They will make you question what you say or do. They will act super sweet one moment. Then they will act ornery the next moment. They will make you feel as though you are the most loved person in the world. Then they will make you feel like you are the most hated person in the world shortly thereafter. It is very draining and exhausting.
@c.a.s1900
@c.a.s1900 4 года назад
We had neighbors over for memorial day and one of the couple's got in a fight and the husband threatened to punch his wife in the face because she said she didn't like hotdogs.. In front of the whole neighborhood. Nobody said a word, then we all just went back to normal. Lol
@a.higginbottom
@a.higginbottom 4 года назад
@@c.a.s1900 so that also showed the wife that it is normal to be treated this way.. I hope someone spoke to her about it afterwards?
@c.a.s1900
@c.a.s1900 4 года назад
@@a.higginbottom all the wife said about it was don't talk like that to me in front of people. Nobody in the neighborhood knows what to say to them anymore so now everyone just waves and smiles at them and then talk about it behind their backs. It's all just really awkward now.
@primeobjective5469
@primeobjective5469 4 года назад
This guy has a lot of *hatred* within himself, and he's attempting to channel it through psychological abuse. This woman is barely saying anything & he's calling her a "Narcissist". Like you said, he's totally *projecting* and indirectly informing his audience she is his *enemy* , nevertheless he says he "loves" her. What a repulsive & nasty *POS.*
@LiveAbuseFree
@LiveAbuseFree 4 года назад
Exactly, how on earth is she behaving lie a narcissist?! Yes I agree - if he hates her by abusing her, he doesn't have to feel his own self hatred.
@ongogablogean4920
@ongogablogean4920 4 года назад
He does it to his mother as well ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IUUXltN4Iw0.html
@ladennayoung2939
@ladennayoung2939 4 года назад
All narcissist do that.
@Analysis_Paralysis
@Analysis_Paralysis 4 года назад
A really good description of narcissists who harbor a lot of hatred in them, which stems from self-hatred. They project everything they feel and they are onto their victims.
@girlygal098
@girlygal098 4 года назад
He's a damn psychopath, is he not?
@geoffduke1763
@geoffduke1763 4 года назад
This is arguing with a narc 101, they go around in circles, throw out ludicrous statements mixed with half truths and of course they are never wrong and know everything.
@edithnackers7127
@edithnackers7127 4 года назад
Don't forget that it's always everyone else's fault but theirs.
@Analysis_Paralysis
@Analysis_Paralysis 4 года назад
And they'll claim that you are the narcissistic one.
@HeidiG11
@HeidiG11 4 года назад
Yes they go from one thing to another that are irrelevant to what your initially talking about.
@ellebell9139
@ellebell9139 4 года назад
Not just that, but they wait to do this until you are comfortable and content, then they put you on the spot of having to choose a battle and have it be your fault, or choose not to rise to the bait and then punished for weakness. People who are not confrontational like this girl are easy targets. I am/was also...working on it. It's tough. You have to JBP up and learn how these freaks think. That whole big-guy-little-spoon or back facing thing is pretty common narc posture too, I've seen. Not by itself of course, but in context, I have known narcs to posture themselves in this awkward way.
@claudiacastillo5898
@claudiacastillo5898 4 года назад
Blanca THIS!!!
@hotgirladjacent
@hotgirladjacent 4 года назад
The expression in her eyes reminds me of myself a few years ago. Sometimes I wish I had my ex on video or voice recording just so I could listen back and confirm that yes, I was actually being abused. Because sometimes I still question whether it was happening or not. Which is an outcome of the gaslighting I went through. 😔
@SeanKula
@SeanKula 4 года назад
Dont question it. You went through all the abuse. Same thing happened to me by my abusive dad. I didn't even know what gaslighting was until recently. People like that are dangerous.
@ResidentEvilReVerseUniverse
@ResidentEvilReVerseUniverse 2 года назад
Having been through this I would say he 100% gaslighted her
@chibimizuno
@chibimizuno Год назад
I recognized that expression too. Frozen, knowing that anything you say will make things worse for you.
@wadebush6700
@wadebush6700 4 года назад
He’s gaslighted himself so long into believing he’s straight, that he resents all women for not being men.
@cas1889ify
@cas1889ify 4 года назад
LMFAO
@jamiejudd7146
@jamiejudd7146 4 года назад
Yes!
@mindyabizness6928
@mindyabizness6928 4 года назад
This is my favorite
@magic.mistress
@magic.mistress 4 года назад
This is the one
@jamiewilson5679
@jamiewilson5679 4 года назад
Rolf.🤣🤣
@shardahenderson6067
@shardahenderson6067 4 года назад
That man is so abusive. After you showed the clip my heart sunk for her. She was just explaining what she read about the hormones and he just smiles so creepily and calls her a liar. I’m praying she isn’t with this man anymore. My God. He seems emotionally abusive. She seems like a sweet young woman. He has major issues.
@SueP-D
@SueP-D 3 года назад
The only way she’ll get out of this is via an intervention. And I’m speaking from personal experience 😢
@pommiebears
@pommiebears 3 года назад
@@SueP-D I got out on my own. As I got older, I realised what was happening to me. As that happens, you tend to start getting stronger. I got strong enough to eventually leave. He did try to find me, and he threatened to kill me, and bury me in the Australian outback, where no one would find me. Fortunately, police picked him up before he got me. I left Australia and went home to England, so he couldn’t do anything. He’s a monster. I’m sure you understand as you have been through it. Glad you got away too...🌹
@SueP-D
@SueP-D 3 года назад
@@pommiebears Whoa you are a hero, my Dear 💖. That took some major bravery. So glad to hear success stories ✨👏🏼☀️
@pommiebears
@pommiebears 3 года назад
@@SueP-D oh....that’s such a nice thing to say, thank you. Brave? I don’t think so. I think desperate is more appropriate. I was dying, and my desperation helped me gain the strength of mind to leave. My boys too. The toxicity of the marriage was not good for them. They saw things that kids should not see, or hear. I think anyone who manages to get away has scars....but, in Asian cultures, they repair their broken crockery with gold, and it’s beautiful, and I like to think our scars are like those pots. Yes, they have been broken, but the gold running through them makes them stronger and unique. 🌹
@SueP-D
@SueP-D 3 года назад
@@pommiebears 😢. That is beautiful. (I’ve got so many cracks tho I’ll be solid gold lol 😆). I think we all do the best we can at any given time. When our feet get swept out from under us it takes awhile to stand tall again. Blessings to you and all who are trying to do right by our children and ourselves.✨
@kayleigh1991
@kayleigh1991 4 года назад
This is a strange rabbit hole I’ve found myself in. What a weird man. She didn’t lie about the egg donation thing at all. You can simultaneously not want to put your body through that and also think that it can be an act of love. Him getting so mad about that is so bizarre.
@notaclue822
@notaclue822 4 года назад
Yes it's like it doesn't make any difference what she does. He's fabricated the whole thing. Run.
@lovingjosh4665
@lovingjosh4665 4 года назад
@@notaclue822 That's what I said n.angry little man .. he seems like an entirely different breed of narcissist, and arnt they supposed to be charming, mine was absolutely the MOST intelligent , articulate speaker. Such a presence and people wld kind of fall arnd trying to be in his favor.. BUT this guy he reminds me of someone who got bullied in school.. CHARMING HE IS NOT !!
@ongogablogean4920
@ongogablogean4920 4 года назад
Yea she was saying the same thing he said. She just didn’t display hate and judgement to others. She said the same facts, and she disclosed that it wasn’t something she would personally do. The man is scarier than Bundy
@Analysis_Paralysis
@Analysis_Paralysis 4 года назад
Loving Josh Not all narcissists are "charming", only the most obvious ones are. In fact, most narcissists aren't charming at all. There are several types and subtyes of narcissists, the most dangerous ones aren't charming.
@annettesh75
@annettesh75 4 года назад
By saying it's a act of love she is showing a human side of herself compassion and empathy. Narcs hate that because they only wish they can feel it, they can only mimic. He hates this about her. He was noticeably triggered by her feelings of compassion.
@Samantha2209
@Samantha2209 4 года назад
I’m still genuinely confused about what she lied about. It’s unreal. No wonder ppl say gaslighting is a “crazy making” tactic.
@Kenzofeis
@Kenzofeis 4 года назад
For "extra cash" he could sell his liver and kidneys
@Ir0nMa1d3n
@Ir0nMa1d3n 4 года назад
Cause no one would want the heart.....🤔
@matahari953
@matahari953 4 года назад
@@Ir0nMa1d3n that was sooo funny!
@jamiejudd7146
@jamiejudd7146 4 года назад
I was gonna say sperm but God NO please don't! I can't imagine what would become of his putrid genetics.
@Ir0nMa1d3n
@Ir0nMa1d3n 4 года назад
@@jamiejudd7146 lol
@haloSrising
@haloSrising 4 года назад
Or his plasma..Girl run!
@unklekal7571
@unklekal7571 4 года назад
He's proud of himself. He's really enjoying his little power trip.
@vickery8205
@vickery8205 4 года назад
That guy is scary! Poor girl...I just want to scoop her up and take her home 😳
@meropedurwood5514
@meropedurwood5514 4 года назад
@Olli Rolli Gaslighting makes you think you are the insane one in the relationship, so you think you are doing something wrong. So leaving the abusive partner is harder than you might think.
@froggreen2067
@froggreen2067 4 года назад
Home is the keyword, obviously she has not learned from home, that she is too good for such a creep.
@ravenscarjonjoe4049
@ravenscarjonjoe4049 4 года назад
Olli Rolli are you dumb
@tasha5432
@tasha5432 4 года назад
I think he was jealous. Her comments were very tender about egg donation being an act of love. He could never be as eloquent as her and he knows it.
@jjmurphey88
@jjmurphey88 4 года назад
That right there. Narcs get jealous of their person the more the person shines to please them...it’s a terrible cycle
@valerieuga
@valerieuga 4 года назад
She didn’t forget about the HGH (human growth hormone) he claimed she “lied” about. He got it mixed up. Egg donation is just IVF and the hormone they give you is FSH, follicle stimulating hormone. They don’t give you HGH. That’s why she was so confused. He wasn’t making any sense.
@JessicaVanderhoff
@JessicaVanderhoff 4 года назад
This is just so strange to watch. Like even if he'd said the right hormone, it seems like a weird, confusing way to bring up the topic in the first place. If I wanted to talk about what we ate for dinner yesterday, I wouldn't start by describing the serving fork we used to eat it and then go "YOU'RE LYING!" when the person didn't connect the dots and start talking about ham and potatoes.
@natk4017
@natk4017 Год назад
It's so clear he set up this entire situation so he could publically abuse her.
@rawrberrys
@rawrberrys 4 года назад
When she talks you can hear the pain in her voice, she's timed, scared, her voice is muted, she mumbles, she stumbles and pauses like she has to monitor every word that comes out like he is waiting for her to mess up.
@mrbobert4236
@mrbobert4236 4 года назад
I know her pain. I got to the point to where I would just do whatever, and agree with whatever my ex would say to avoid all conflict. I was too broken down by her towards the end of the, "relationship" to even fight back anymore.
@emp9413
@emp9413 3 года назад
This was my life until recently. When I'd start to stumble and stutter and couldn't think well enough to apeak hed say I'm trying to think of lies. Poor girl hope he gets what's coming to him.
@katryanaorange2092
@katryanaorange2092 4 года назад
Reminds me of my ex. I'm still recovering. This is NOT love.
@kathleech8044
@kathleech8044 4 года назад
Katryana OranGe And me. We used to argue for hours, all night, he would not let me sleep. To be honest, they weren’t rows, he used to shout and pick at me. I learned there was nothing I could stay so I stayed quiet. The final straw was ridiculous. I was going to the cupboard to give the cat a treat. He accused me of over feeding her and that what I was doing was actually killing her. So I put the treats away and went to walk off after saying ok. I did not want an argument. Apparently I threw them and he was sick of me disrespecting him and why can’t I just stay and have a conversation like a normal person. Everything was always about me and he was sick of it. I was sick of it. After 13 years I left with nothing but my clothes, my self respect and (barely) my sanity. 7 years later I am with a kind person who loves me who I love. He is sat in a big old house, alone, drowning his sorrows. Still. Karma.
@deathpresent101
@deathpresent101 4 года назад
I’m sorry you had to go through that. It’s a horrible experience to have with someone you thought you love. Sending support
@sabrinatrumpert4774
@sabrinatrumpert4774 4 года назад
Kath Leech Tbh that sounds like he was just mad for reasons he wasnt aware of or didnt want to admit to himself or you so he thought that your behaviour was the reason for his anger. Many people do this and its not bad at all... For example when your friend doesnt answer for hours and you get mad and tell them "you ignored me, youre so mean!!" when they didnt. It happens when youre unhappy in general so you try to find reasons for it. Basically everyone around me does this sometimes, I also do it. What you should do then is to calmly explain that you didnt do what they say you did and ask them whats wrong and try to comfort them. It seems to me like you see anger as something bad and your new man is probably just someone who doesnt get mad at all most of the time.
@sashamonique3922
@sashamonique3922 4 года назад
Same
@e_bug
@e_bug 4 года назад
I came here to say this exactly. I'm so proud of you for getting out of that situation. Stay strong ❤️
@deidreemcdowell2814
@deidreemcdowell2814 4 года назад
She needs to get out of that relationship. He's dangerous!
@anothereero
@anothereero 4 года назад
Abusive. Period. Cruel and simply awful. He is a nightmare.
@devorah935
@devorah935 3 года назад
He's ugly too
@LeeBee-hs6mj
@LeeBee-hs6mj 4 года назад
There's a cognitive dissonance in listening to a narcissist like this when the things they say don't match their behaviour. It feels confusing and conflicting to watch and listen to them and I can totally see how someone would question themselves and their own judgement when faced with that confusion and sense of unease.
@falonm2699
@falonm2699 4 года назад
Very true. She says "she feels like the crazy one" and jimmy is just helping her get better and grow.
@ladennayoung2939
@ladennayoung2939 4 года назад
Yes it's horrible. Imagine dealing with this day in and day out. Imagine this lasting for hours. In a sense I feel like they want to drive you crazy. They try to make you depressed. So you can take your own life.
@maemae4156
@maemae4156 4 года назад
Ladenna Young that is exactly how it is too...
@iolemaffei
@iolemaffei 4 года назад
When he said “you’re lying” I was so confused.. what was she lying about😂 Also why does he always record these conversations? Does he not think people watching will see none of what he says ever makes sense?
@larawolfson6322
@larawolfson6322 4 года назад
she deadass said every single thing he tried to say that she didn't say/lied about. this was so confusing to watch and genuinely hurt my head. If I were her I woulda ran into the livestream myself and been like YALL HEARD ME RIGHT?
@Brieyonce
@Brieyonce 4 года назад
He enjoys that we talk about it. Bc there’s literally nothing that can be done unless Kate leaves.
@ascendedanarchist8883
@ascendedanarchist8883 4 года назад
Narcissists think they are right. Even if the world tells him he is wrong he still won't think so. And cause this is a game to him.
@bc8796
@bc8796 4 года назад
Right? And I didn't get him walking away and saying the same thing she said??? But he is like she is lying lol
@evesong1229
@evesong1229 4 года назад
The first words he said after that long pause, I audibly gasped at. Unbelievable person 😬.
@springlady8337
@springlady8337 4 года назад
Wait, what did she “lie” about. She said “you get hormones and it effects you” then he leaves and says “girls you get hormones and it effects you”?? Where is the lie?
@xnyroxchannel
@xnyroxchannel 4 года назад
Exactlyy
@kamilahakimova510
@kamilahakimova510 4 года назад
Affects you
@Ad_Astra_321
@Ad_Astra_321 4 года назад
He's completely broke & living in motels etc. She mentioned "when we were looking into options for extra cash..." (at 14:38 ). I think he's angry with her for not wanting to get her eggs harvested & make them some money.
@yiselyerorodriguez5433
@yiselyerorodriguez5433 4 года назад
He’s so gross oh my god
@girlygal098
@girlygal098 4 года назад
Isn't he repulsive?
@quicksilverlacey
@quicksilverlacey 4 года назад
I was wondering if it was that as well but then again with as controlled & beaten down as he has her I feel like if he wanted her to do it she would.. like not that he would physically force her but just abuse her more until she does it? Idk.
@walteralvarez8230
@walteralvarez8230 4 года назад
He is mad that she has empathy and he does not . He hates people and can’t love nobody and that frustrates him .
@Brandiisbeloved
@Brandiisbeloved 4 года назад
Why doesn’t he work the corner and make his own money?
@wendyt2302
@wendyt2302 4 года назад
I think he wanted her to support his nonworking self by selling her eggs .When she said it would have to be an act of love he took offense that she didn't love him enough.
@snugwithpug462
@snugwithpug462 4 года назад
wendy T absolutely, he wanted that money!, his girl has dissatisfied him and in return he has attempted to shame and smear her publicly as punishment, she has showed beautiful qualities by saying “act of love”, he would have loved to use that phrase as if those words came from himself, but she didn’t say them off camera. I’ve been subjected to these behaviours many years ago but the Narc was much more careful and selective in what he broadcast to his audience - what they saw and heard. Jim gives his true self away immediately with his rambling and behaviours, Kait you in danger girl!
@nikkilea5632
@nikkilea5632 4 года назад
wendy T that’s what I was thinking too. It’s so hard to say what’s going on in that head of his. I would jump in front of a train vs listening to this guy.
@MrMrpurplecupcakes
@MrMrpurplecupcakes 4 года назад
Michelle Bollard hello fellow murderino
@Analysis_Paralysis
@Analysis_Paralysis 4 года назад
I also believe he wanted to coerce her into donating her eggs. He's just angry he can't profit (financially) from her body. He's only mad that he can't exploit her financially!
@11th888
@11th888 4 года назад
YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD!!! YOU SHOULD BE A PRO! I was on to it but wasn’t putting my finger on it!
@heyodi3092
@heyodi3092 4 года назад
Oooo wow this is hard to watch. Poor girl. My ex was like this, but very condescending and sarcastic, and it was so painful to go through. Especially not knowing that what he was doing wasn’t ok. I felt like the worst person in the world and would wonder why he could stay with someone so horrible.
@LiveAbuseFree
@LiveAbuseFree 4 года назад
Yes, it's incredibly painful when you believe in the abuser's version of who you are isn't it.
@chokinonashes61
@chokinonashes61 4 года назад
@@LiveAbuseFree Your videos are helping me so much at just the right time in my life. I'm very grateful 😻
@tiltedhalo9888
@tiltedhalo9888 4 года назад
He reminds me of an ex of mine . This woman is MARRIED to that .
@kristengalatas4895
@kristengalatas4895 4 года назад
I feel your pain. My ex was like this. He maid me feel like nothing, and convinced me that I was a terrible person, and that he was the only person that cared about me. It's so hard to watch this.
@lostgirl6522
@lostgirl6522 4 года назад
My heart is breaking for this girl. My ex would have these spinning conversations with me that in the end made me feel I was always wrong with how I thought. Hopefully, since his arrogance has made these conversations public, she will see his monstrous truth.
@RaeOfficialMusic
@RaeOfficialMusic 4 года назад
“You’re just a narcissist.” Wowwww projection
@josehenriquez3274
@josehenriquez3274 4 года назад
For real....No one asked, but I once had this happen to me and questioned my own sanity for weeks till I realized after some research the bitch was simply projecting onto me 🤦🏻‍♂️. One of the snakiest tactics out there. “No youre the bad guy.”
@thatzmental
@thatzmental 4 года назад
What are you talking about? You either don’t understand narcissism or you are an abuser.
@RaeOfficialMusic
@RaeOfficialMusic 4 года назад
That's Mental no lol I’m commenting on what he said to her. He called her a narcissist
@josehenriquez3274
@josehenriquez3274 4 года назад
That's Mental she was talking about what the dude called his girlfriend
@Mels0103
@Mels0103 3 года назад
The IMMEDIATE thought that came into my head when he said that was "Stop projecting".
@shilohlove2319
@shilohlove2319 4 года назад
I think he was jealous of her beautiful empathic thoughts, then to take the shine away from her he caused this random scene
@mariamatmos4506
@mariamatmos4506 4 года назад
If anyone humiliated me like that in private, I would cut the relationship straight away. Imagine if it was in public...What a horrible person!
@annmaria
@annmaria 4 года назад
You might not though. The reason he can do that is because he's playing on her own insecurities and her need to please. It is so insidious.
@hadotonini1189
@hadotonini1189 4 года назад
Yes, he is. My narcissist aunt acts the same way. She'll act as the most righteous person or the victim. She has no respect for other's opinion and always insulting other people. If you stand for your own opinion, she'll attack you and keep on arguing over and over again although you are in a public place in or in front of other relatives. She'll even create stories that aren't real. She is a 59 year old single unemployed woman. She was fired from her job back in the late 1980s by her colleagues' signature campaign because she is a nightmare to work with. She berated all of them. I've stopped all sort of communication with her after my grandmother passed away (since she lives in my late grandmother's house). Nobody cares for her. I had enough with her attitude. I hope that she'll die in loneliness in that house.
@josefinebliss2801
@josefinebliss2801 4 года назад
That's great and same but it's not always so easy. Don't know what how he threats her in private and treats her then, maybe he won't let her leave. There are different types of narcissists. Many will let their partner go easily but try to make them feel like the reason the relationship failed is all their fault through guilt tripping and insults which is bad enough. Others may threat abusive of different kinds if their partner leaves. It's very sad
@TimoteoDeBaum
@TimoteoDeBaum 4 года назад
💯 Period sis! ✌️🖕
@queencarnival3365
@queencarnival3365 4 года назад
Because you are a healthy person, narcissists look for emotionally unhealthy people with low self esteem and codependency problema so they can do this to them .
@afree6339
@afree6339 4 года назад
I am so glad you found out about this guy. He is so triggering to watch. He knows exactly what he is and like the classic narc he is, projects it on to her. He even uses the words “gaslighting” and calls her a narcissist. He also hates women, like most of them do too. We couldn’t have a better example of what gaslighting looks and sounds like. This is so triggering! We’ve got to get her out of that situation. Clearly trauma bonded. Oh and I guarantee you he has a secret file full of other women. Thank you for covering this!! ❤️
@positiveblackgirlvibes4053
@positiveblackgirlvibes4053 4 года назад
Very vivid flashbacks for me
@jacquelineaslan8403
@jacquelineaslan8403 4 года назад
This is my ex too.
@Chiwowza
@Chiwowza 4 года назад
This is my mom 👀
@justice4422
@justice4422 4 года назад
I was triggered.. like I felt I didn't something wrong
@jessiev3030
@jessiev3030 4 года назад
I was cringing the whole time. He is manipulative and very passive aggressive.
@SageandStoneHomestead
@SageandStoneHomestead 4 года назад
Right he isn't passive at least from our perspective. She might have a foggy lense.
@Krvxk
@Krvxk 4 года назад
I'm laying on my boyfriend's chest watching and this made me cling to him so tight. I appreciate him so much but I appreciate the gentle, sweet, and quiet soul he is so much more after this.
@cerenb7909
@cerenb7909 4 года назад
aw. 💙 wish the best for you
@Krvxk
@Krvxk 4 года назад
thank you💕
@freakinfiretruckxx
@freakinfiretruckxx 3 года назад
☺️☺️ I'm happy for you dear person! This is the kind of positive vibes we need!
@Krvxk
@Krvxk 3 года назад
@@freakinfiretruckxx thank you, you just dont know how much I needed to hear that today 🙏🏽💕
@Krvxk
@Krvxk 3 года назад
@@fleetwitchmac thank you, I won't 💕
@TheHouseOffice
@TheHouseOffice 4 года назад
The freaking hurtful insults casually tossed into a seemingly calm conversation. Gets you so hurt and wound up then you cant even explain why. **shudders**
@00katydid00
@00katydid00 4 года назад
This guy is literally ... crazy.
@zechariyahgodschild7258
@zechariyahgodschild7258 3 года назад
*Clinically insane
@suziecheeseman3760
@suziecheeseman3760 4 года назад
This is dreadful to observe. This man doesn’t know the first thing about love. I feel for the mental and physical safety of this girl. So triggering remembering the confusion, swirling feelings and losing my grip on what’s real and what’s part of the game. Reality becomes so bent and untrustworthy. It is torment being in that situation.
@ravenbeaudoin109
@ravenbeaudoin109 4 года назад
Glad you're out of it you wonderful woman ❤ I hope you enjoy every moment of freedom
@suziecheeseman3760
@suziecheeseman3760 4 года назад
Raven Beaudoin Thank you, Raven. Your words are a comfort.
@TallTanAndLoud
@TallTanAndLoud 4 года назад
Wtf is going on? I’m so confused. He’s a mess.
@cerenb7909
@cerenb7909 4 года назад
scary right
@AmandaMG6
@AmandaMG6 3 года назад
I think he’s mad bc he wanted her to sell her eggs and she won’t
@granny58
@granny58 3 года назад
@@AmandaMG6 he wants her to agree with him that wimem shouldn't do it.
@grahamless
@grahamless 4 года назад
he's so good at lying he's even convinced himself he's smart.
@emilylux9165
@emilylux9165 4 года назад
Gaslightibg in friendships exists too! I was made to feel too dramatic or as if my feelings weren't real, its terrible and difficult to get through and I resent people who are delusional like this
@nauwneu1729
@nauwneu1729 4 года назад
Emily Lux in families also
@MagdalenaGassr
@MagdalenaGassr 4 года назад
Just recently ended a long term friendship because of this - and I can totally relate
@hellodolly1636
@hellodolly1636 4 года назад
Thus guy has been scamming people fir five years. Now he abuses this 19 year old girl.
@iamhereblossom1588
@iamhereblossom1588 4 года назад
Yeah how old is he? Looks like in his 30s. Really bothers me how these older guys sometimes abuse these younger girls who have not developed themselves yet.
@bethm4448
@bethm4448 4 года назад
What did she lie about, according to him? I don't get his point at all. What a complete narcissist!
@109324g
@109324g 4 года назад
his 'logic' is that she lied to his audience saying that it's an act of love to donate eggs because it isn't an act of love because it can be so hard on the body that it's not love to do something like that. It makes literally no sense, but he says she was putting people in danger by encouraging people to do it by calling it loving. In reality, it didn't matter what she said. She was going to be a 'liar' according to him either way. That's just what he decided she lied about this time.
@bethm4448
@bethm4448 4 года назад
@@109324g Exactly! And I think he was jealous that she made that connection between donating the egg ( very hard on the body) and love, because it probably never even occurred to him in the first place. He has a very warped notion of love. So to put one's body through such an ordeal for love is inconceivable to him
@109324g
@109324g 4 года назад
@@bethm4448 probably less jealous that it didn't occur to him and more angry that it would make her look so good to his viewers. Jealous of the positive reception and validation and angry that he didn't look that good. I don't think it was a genuine desire to feel those emotions or a genuine desire to understand those emotions. So he made them look stupid and wrong instead
@sw-xy2so
@sw-xy2so 4 года назад
Imagine what Kait is thinking while he is spewing his word salad in the other room. She has got to be always walking in eggshell s.
@eunicefreeman1719
@eunicefreeman1719 4 года назад
Yes you've hit the nail on the head
@CWdudeyo
@CWdudeyo 4 года назад
How do I contact him, and tell him that he’s a complete nightmare??? 😳😳😳. Edit: I figured it out. Done ✅
@girlygal098
@girlygal098 4 года назад
Who are his sponsors? That's who I'm interested in contacting.
@dstill3434
@dstill3434 4 года назад
I'm wondering how I can add to the chorus of voices that are no doubt telling her to run from this man!!!
@melgmomma6700
@melgmomma6700 4 года назад
@@girlygal098 he has none
@karjar17
@karjar17 4 года назад
Ciara you are my queen
@JMac-27
@JMac-27 4 года назад
how do I find him
@starlingswallow
@starlingswallow 4 года назад
He ended up saying the VERY thing SHE SAID! This is insanity!!!!!!
@bettertomorrow2625
@bettertomorrow2625 4 года назад
This guy is truly terrifying. He's going to kill someone one of these days. I am petrified for her.
@margyb7469
@margyb7469 3 года назад
I feel he will too
@kelly-bo-belly
@kelly-bo-belly 3 года назад
Yeah.. thats a dangerous guy. He is not stable.
@jayg9087
@jayg9087 3 года назад
These kind of people they actually will never end up killing their wife and children. My experience witnessing these kind of gaslighters are they provoke & keep abusing until their victim snaps and end up being the ones reacting negatively & often tragically
@fawnieee
@fawnieee Год назад
​@@jayg9087 He's been arrested for physically a busing her in front of many witnesses just last year while she was heavily pregnant. Men are 6x more likely to suddenly become violent when their partner is pregnant, even if they hadn't been violent before; it's still a likelihood for them to do so while she is pregnant. That is quite an ignorant comment, you have no idea what people are capable of.
@allegrac230
@allegrac230 4 года назад
This was hard to watch. Totally triggered memories of my ex husband... That confusion and need to justify, but nothing is resolved but another broken boundary
@ravenbeaudoin109
@ravenbeaudoin109 4 года назад
Ex husband, I'm cheering you on, every morning you wake up...YOURE FREE!
@SueP-D
@SueP-D 3 года назад
Oh Lordy - me exactly
@evaharris5239
@evaharris5239 3 года назад
yes, triggers ex memories for sure, took me over a year to function normally again...
@DajanaDarling
@DajanaDarling 4 года назад
I kinda feels like this is how the relationship between Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes was like. Well, I don't really know how their relationship was. But he gives me Tom Cruise vibes.
@zetametallic
@zetametallic 4 года назад
OMG me too! That is exactly what I thought seeing this, it is like he has modelled himself on Tom Cruise's personality and mannerisms. He looks like an ex boyfriend of mine from the early 1990's (UK) he was a bit of an immature knob but nowhere as bad as him TBF.
@luckyduckydaisyflower2344
@luckyduckydaisyflower2344 4 года назад
Woah! Me too..
@thebestusername5852
@thebestusername5852 4 года назад
Oh, no.. Tom Cruz vibes are never seen in a positive light, lol. In all seriousness though, I'm here because I am trying to figure out if my husband is truly a narcissist, or just an asshole, and ironically his favorite actor of all time is Tom Cruz
@xoKMFxo
@xoKMFxo 4 года назад
Yes!!!!! “Who’s coming with me??” ...crickets
@insomniacspillowfortarmy5776
@insomniacspillowfortarmy5776 4 года назад
I was thinking of her and other victims of this abuse like needing to be saved like helping brainwashed, scared and in denial people in cults likeeeee Scientology! Because it's not physical or sexual abuse that others like family, friends or even strangers can call for help and police arrest them but for this type of abuse and such is there anything? Maybe if a child is involved too where it's taken more seriously?
@kellyvincent1542
@kellyvincent1542 4 года назад
The “truth” that he said about the egg thing was almost exactly what she said. What??
@chadsworthgigafuck
@chadsworthgigafuck 4 года назад
This is what my dad used to do to me. He would start an argument in public, and then later tell me how everyone was mad at me and how I embarrassed him. Everyone but him recognized this. For so long as a child I was confused on why I didn't love my dad, I was told that what he was doing would help me in the future, but the more research I do on psychology and manipulation, the more I start to dislike him. Unfortunately mental abuse is non-recognized in a lot of hispanic households, so he'll never learn.
@warrior4him2.07
@warrior4him2.07 3 года назад
But you have learned. So now you can distance yourself from it.
@river5715
@river5715 4 года назад
I don’t understand how she “lied” when after she “lied” he said the exact same thing... wUt
@HappiiWheels
@HappiiWheels 4 года назад
"I'm not gonna bring this up on purpose so she can lie on my platform...." But he's the one that brought up that specific topic of conversation????
@rsevilfly
@rsevilfly 4 года назад
I’ve been gaslighted so much in the past that I believed that I had no common sense. That I was literally bad at everything I do. These people will make you feel crazy.
@SueP-D
@SueP-D 3 года назад
Been there, done that, am still in recovery. Best wishes to you ✨
@11th888
@11th888 4 года назад
He’s mad she won’t mess her self up for cash. That’s why he said that “You’ll end up with 10,000 dollars” or wtf ever amount
@stot8427
@stot8427 4 года назад
I think he instigated this conversation live attempting to get her to publicly commit to the procedure.. she knew he would be upset that she didn’t. Projecting that she’s upsetting other people by stating it’s not for her is insidious guilt tripping... he’s trying every tactic to pressure her into appeasement mode.
@foreverNwonder
@foreverNwonder 3 года назад
It’s really sad that a year later, they’re still together and it was just reported that James Saroka was arrested for beating Kaitlyn, his pregnant wife, while walking down the side of a highway… I feel so bad for her, I wish I could send Kait all the strength in the world so she could escape him for good… ☹️
@Santi._.403
@Santi._.403 4 года назад
This is cringe, the guy is nuts. Thank you for the breakdown of this video, I’ve never experienced something this cruel and strange in a relationship before.
@hammy1306
@hammy1306 4 года назад
‘I’ve been hurt a lot too but nobody cares about that’....an interesting quote from him....
@calwilliams1506
@calwilliams1506 4 года назад
Sue Hammond - he’s right. I certainly don’t....now.
@andolique1075
@andolique1075 4 года назад
That quote is a favourite of a narcissistic family member of mine, too.
@luizathir13en
@luizathir13en 4 года назад
"woe is me"
@louixley
@louixley 4 года назад
@Julia Mimi that is truly horrific. Because the abuse he received was so physical, he probably uses it to deny that the way he treats of his girlfriend is also abuse. Boy needs help, but he also needs to take accountability and seek the help. His girlfriend needs help now too. the cycle of abuse and trauma
@ramblingruthie7602
@ramblingruthie7602 4 года назад
hurt people hurt people.....
@klarawinterain6101
@klarawinterain6101 4 года назад
I know this kind of 🙄 eye roll expression from years ago. (fortunately far in the past) The "wow, it's so obvious that you're crazy/weird/a mess and you don't even get it" asshole face... Thanks aaaand I'm proud saying that I'm no longer getting triggered by such content. Yay. 🙂
@LiveAbuseFree
@LiveAbuseFree 4 года назад
Good! That's great that you aren't getting triggered now 😀 Yes I know that face! 😁
@Exhumed_Saint
@Exhumed_Saint 4 года назад
Klara Winterain you know one, you know ‘em all. Thankfully I was only with my ex for a few months of hell. I finally saw what he really was and I will never go thought that again.
@princesskittysnummies3951
@princesskittysnummies3951 4 года назад
My ex was a narcissist like this there were times I felt like I was losing my mind because I couldn’t understand what I did to make him mad at me or he’d go into something I did that made no sense it took 4 years but I’m glad I got away I had to completely rebuild myself after losing myself in the process
@codie-leighc2345
@codie-leighc2345 4 года назад
I'm so sorry but I'm glad you got out ♡♡
@fludderkiddie
@fludderkiddie 4 года назад
I love when the narcissist learns about narcissism and calls their supply the narcissist... “Little billy learned a new word today” Awww...and little billy is “fighting” for her “equality”.
@AnnAndNala
@AnnAndNala 4 года назад
Now I'm worried for that poor woman in the video. I'm watching this in September and hoping that she has left him by now. She needs to escape that abusive narcissist and never look back.
@julieeileen7299
@julieeileen7299 3 года назад
He was recently arrested for beating her (while she is currently pregnant with their child) on the side of the road. It's horrific.
@LizbetPCB
@LizbetPCB 4 года назад
Who on earth are these people? I must have missed something! He’s a piece of work. Even the fact that he’s in the foreground while she’s scrunched him behind him says a lot.
@stewybagodonuts817
@stewybagodonuts817 4 года назад
Beth Bee james jim saroka feetpeace. Search anywhere
@angelabaird7135
@angelabaird7135 4 года назад
That’s a REALLY good observation. About the positioning and what it reveals. It is quite strange and awkward. Normally the female is the “little spoon” so to speak and since she’s usually smaller, put ahead while filming. And he uses physical postering and gestures pretty intensely like when he ripped his hand away from hers when his standard for how she explained it didn’t match his expectations. He is full of vile poisonous projection. I can feel it through the screen. I pray she ends up with someone who treats her so sweet and tenderly and she recognizes how unhealthy this was.
@haakmaaraan6075
@haakmaaraan6075 4 года назад
He even moves the camera to his face when she is talking....
@marikiemarie7622
@marikiemarie7622 4 года назад
@@stewybagodonuts817 I've looked. There nothing but randon photos that kinda look like him... never seen him on anything... at all! I'm all over RU-vid and never heard his name
@stewybagodonuts817
@stewybagodonuts817 4 года назад
marikie marie m.ru-vid.com?search_query=James+saroka
@Flame44
@Flame44 4 года назад
When I first encountered this couple, I thought they were drama students doing a skit. Could not believe it was real🙁
@jamoore418
@jamoore418 4 года назад
honestly yeah it's so painful it seems like a fucking joke
@aylasvloggins309
@aylasvloggins309 4 года назад
I know it makes me feel crazy just listening, god knows how she must feel.
@TylerMcKinney
@TylerMcKinney 4 года назад
The older I get, the less surprised I am with the insanity, chaos, and evil that is mankind. If there weren't so many good things to balance it out I'd never leave my house.
@varimarc1
@varimarc1 4 года назад
Who are they?
@Flame44
@Flame44 4 года назад
varimarc1 Jim started on Periscope then met Kate. There are dozens of videos exposing his bizarre antics, begging for $$$, fake fundraising, abusive behavior etc...fall down the rabbit hole & check it out. Search “Jim Soroka”
@ladylaois8184
@ladylaois8184 4 года назад
I never knew about this gaslighting until I started working for a 96 year old expert. Four hours of it and a week to recover
@LiveAbuseFree
@LiveAbuseFree 4 года назад
Wow! That person must have perfected their skills over the years!😕
@tiltedhalo9888
@tiltedhalo9888 4 года назад
They don’t get healthier , they just hone their skills . Stay well .
@ladylaois8184
@ladylaois8184 4 года назад
seriously it’s horrible lol she was a very clever lady well still is sharp
@tiltedhalo9888
@tiltedhalo9888 4 года назад
Lady Laois can you imagine her when young and spry?! *shivers* 🤣
@julianacarwile7057
@julianacarwile7057 4 года назад
And he don't used the card "i'm old"?
@alexkess8506
@alexkess8506 3 года назад
There is something comfortable about your demeanor, despite the tough topics you cover. You are such an enjoyable, intelligent, calming person to listen to. Thank you for giving your time to us.
@LiveAbuseFree
@LiveAbuseFree 3 года назад
Thank you so much! 😊
@KYoung-nj8ri
@KYoung-nj8ri 4 года назад
Dude this is scary.. hes one step away from being a physical abuser, this guy is living in fantasy world..
@apeyb5606
@apeyb5606 4 года назад
I’ve experienced gaslighting quite a lot in my life... these clips of him doing this to her make my heart race!! Crazy how triggering it is. It almost sends me into a panic because my heart is beating so fast. I used to have to keep a journal where I would write down the things my mom said to me because it would make me SO distraught & confused that I could never remember the conversations afterwards to tell my therapists. So I had to write everything down immediately afterwards. :-/
@kelinamurray3581
@kelinamurray3581 3 года назад
Same
@warrior4him2.07
@warrior4him2.07 3 года назад
So sad! Im so sorry you experienced that.
@Gwen13061
@Gwen13061 4 года назад
He’s sadistic
@JacaboBlanco
@JacaboBlanco 4 года назад
He's puts her down constantly as a means to lift himself up in the eyes of his audience. She's the bad cop. He's the good cop
@chezafelix1782
@chezafelix1782 4 года назад
Watching the conversation between them makes me feel like I'm drunk, while suffering through a hangover. I had to pause and listen to him again.
@x0kitty
@x0kitty 4 года назад
100% he had even me feeling confused
@janinegarcilazo1061
@janinegarcilazo1061 4 года назад
Omg. Sounds like my ex. He loves to hear himself to talk. “I’m not doing this shit” is exactly what my ex would say. He wouldn’t call me a narcissist but would call me “so selfish” but I literally lived for him in everything. Watching this triggered me and my past trauma (and it continues bc of shared custody). This guy is such a narcissist. He’s seeking attention. He’s seeking validation and a pat on the back for being such a good guy. Oh my goooooood. Legit my ex. Wise. Ethical. So great. So kind. Mature. 🙄🙄🙄🙄. He keeps saying she’s lying. I CANT WITH THIS GUY. my ex said he was protecting me too when accusing me of lying. It was/is maddening.
@glendalomax7884
@glendalomax7884 4 года назад
Your explanation is excellent. When living in a situation such as this the confusion created by the narcissist makes it very difficult for the empath to see the situation for what it is. You so clearly unravelled this for her and your viewers. Thank you.
@ASh-io8ro
@ASh-io8ro 4 года назад
Oh my god. I am so ashamed to say I have related to that feeling of jealousy you described, but thank you for describing it so well. I have almost always been pessimistic, and kind of a miserable and depressed person and I have felt that jealousy with all my partners when they don’t share a feeling of contempt towards something that I do. I never really realized how awful I have probably made people feel in the past. Thank you thank you so much for your channel. And I am so sorry to all the people who have gone through this abuse. Jesus.
@LiveAbuseFree
@LiveAbuseFree 4 года назад
Thank you for being brave and sharing this. It's great you've seen this about yourself and that you have the guts to be honest about it. Everyone has narcissistic traits to some degree. 😊
@chokinonashes61
@chokinonashes61 4 года назад
It is a spectrum and if we have narcissist parents we learn their behaviour as it's the only one we see. I'm healing and forgiving myself for mistakes made in ignorance and making amends for us all. Blessings to you.
@nikkilea5632
@nikkilea5632 4 года назад
chokinonashes61 I’m doing exactly the same! We have to remember to be kind to ourselves after all we’ve been through too! ❤️
@Jujudeze22
@Jujudeze22 4 года назад
Very brave to admit and recognize, it gives me courage to recognize my own narcissistic traits and address them.
@wildmeadows8495
@wildmeadows8495 4 года назад
A bit triggered how confused she was, but then so willing to accommodate his irrational request. Know the feeling of the pervasive mental instability and misplaced internalized responsibility. Irrationality is obvious to an outsider, but a normal day for insider.
@werm3169
@werm3169 4 года назад
What on earth. That man is...wow. It must be so confusing to have someone hold your hand like they love you while they begin to manipulate you.
@MathildaFlow
@MathildaFlow 3 года назад
The way he’s holding her hand and caressing it while being so mean. I’d be so confused.
@rachelslocombe8507
@rachelslocombe8507 4 года назад
This is a coincidence, I only heard about this guy yesterday, & did a it of research, I couldn’t watch much tho, because he’s completely crazy , the trouble with all these platforms is that they are perfect places for these sort of self obsessed narcissistic individuals to spout off their nonsense!! Very interesting to have your insights as alwaysxxx
@IbnBahtuta
@IbnBahtuta 4 года назад
The only logical outcome is for Kaitlin to leave without forwarning. He will probably end up on one of Lady Justice's court trial uploads....just sayin'
@ronniesutton9388
@ronniesutton9388 4 года назад
IbnBahtuta pretty sure Kaitlyn will soon out grow him, she’s very young, he’s not exactly cleaver or subtle! Imagine as he puts it “I’ve been hurt” yep by confident women😜👍
@bamrahamar
@bamrahamar 4 года назад
You are so pretty, and such a beautiful background 😃
@LiveAbuseFree
@LiveAbuseFree 4 года назад
Thank you ☺️
@dovebby
@dovebby 4 года назад
Absolutely ! She’s is radiant and warm and welcoming.
@Analysis_Paralysis
@Analysis_Paralysis 4 года назад
Yes, really lovely!
@zoezzzarko1117
@zoezzzarko1117 4 года назад
Her background IS STELLAR Omgggggggg
@taneabree
@taneabree 4 года назад
lover_of_music those what I think are birds of paradise look AMAZING
@emilybeauvais4164
@emilybeauvais4164 4 года назад
I have a slightly different take on this. I think when she said it was an "act of love" he was feeling extreme anxiety about whether or not she truly wanted to go through with something like that. He wants to control her, and is so blinded by the anxiety caused by this girl having any free will at all, that he's hearing PAST the fact that she's saying it's not something she'd want to do, and hearing the "act of love" as an amplification and validation of his root fear which is her doing something he wouldn't approve of.
@ameliaearhart666
@ameliaearhart666 8 месяцев назад
Ohhhh, wow. So many past encounters with my ex narc where he’d get inexplicably angry with me for NOT having contempt for people or for empathizing with another person’s perspective, all make sense now. Thank you so much for that explanation! It was always SO confusing!
@fancyfree8599
@fancyfree8599 4 года назад
Nasty individual - she seems like s bright and compassionate person, so I hope she stays true to herself and sees through him soon and walks.... The arrogance to try and gas light her and then the entire audience- he‘s neithet kind nor bright. Thanks Zoe for the insights.
@judyhall2489
@judyhall2489 4 года назад
This is my first time ever to make a comment on any channel. But I wanted to let you know how much I enjoy listening to you and learning so much..Thank you
@LiveAbuseFree
@LiveAbuseFree 4 года назад
Aw thank you so much Judy! Your comment is really appreciated. Please feel free to write about anything you feel like sharing under my videos. ☺️🤗
@LiveAbuseFree
@LiveAbuseFree 4 года назад
@ Thank you! 😊
@christinakav5029
@christinakav5029 4 года назад
Judy Hall good on you !
@angela_somanythings5670
@angela_somanythings5670 4 года назад
When she doesn't have an Immediate Reaction to His Nonsensical claim that she's hurt anyone by saying what she said about Egg donation, this shows that this type of accusation of lying or being wrong has happened over and over again with other topics where she's scared to stand up for herself and needs to find out Exactly what he means before she can respond in order to not upset him for saying the wrong thing/talking about a different issue than the one he is hinting at!
@willemmyers217
@willemmyers217 4 года назад
YIKES!!! The way you’re smiling through the pain when you say that you hopefully won’t be going to jail. The fear is palpable. Wishing you the best💕❤️
@nyxqd1290
@nyxqd1290 4 года назад
Watching this made tears spring into my eyes. It’s been 4 years since I left a man who did so many of the things that this guy does, and I’d quite forgotten what it is to feel what that woman must be feeling. That calm, rational tone. The constant accusations of lying. No privacy. Knowing you’re not crazy but not knowing what to say to make your abuser believe you. Someone who hasn’t lived this doesn’t know how exhausting it is to be constantly on alert for this stuff and how it feels like your sanity is being stripped from you. Awful. Just awful.
@aoefeable
@aoefeable 4 года назад
Thank you for covering this! I’ve been aware of Jimmy Saroka for three years, and have great concern about what’s been happening. The more people who are aware of what’s taking place, the more hope I have for Kait.
@flowerchild7820
@flowerchild7820 4 года назад
It’s so heart breaking watching the pain he’s inflicting on her. I feel her pain. UGH! He’s a big sissy bully.
@SarahValsheim
@SarahValsheim 4 года назад
ooh, i'm so glad you're talking about this! He is a lot more terrifying than Onision, i think! D: This level of narcissism and psychopathy is just.. horrifying o.o I love your sense of humor btw :D I'm glad you're safe and okay! Take care ~
@LiveAbuseFree
@LiveAbuseFree 4 года назад
I's more overt than Onision's behaviour I think. But I find Onision's behaviour as creepy because of the way it's dressed up sometimes quite effectively as a joke. Thanks so much! ☺️
@chrishintz1077
@chrishintz1077 3 года назад
This reminds me of the scene in the movie Gaslight. Husband has planted brooch in wife’s handbag. Then accuses her of losing the broach. Literally, gaslighting.
@amandalynn6521
@amandalynn6521 4 года назад
This made me sick. I spent 5 months with a man like this and in only 5 months I left thank God but I was now a shell of a women. 7 years later I'm still single because I need to be sure Im secure enough to get the man I deserve.
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