Patrice O'Neal in studio, discussing prison and capital punishment, which leads into a deeper discussion exploring "Operation Charles Manson" with the help of a few callers who claim to have inside information.
No shit, I just got to the part where Patrice really puts it in a sentence. "Charles Manson's just a funny person to put in there". " I mean do opertation _____ of someone that'd make somewhat sense and everything else dude says, is uh. Yeah. Pretty on point, really.
@@rmoim99 What if you make a lot of money later in life or want to run for office? The government could get hacked and criminal could get ahold of your nudes and can make you pay.
Ayyy. North Carolina, woot woot. Tryin to chill and talk about the Reptilian Overlords and what not? Yeah man, Patrice is the shit, he realizes that's a bit much, but, a few levels below that isn't that crazy is it.
22:10 Edward Snowden’s book has a chapter describing EXACTLY what this guy was saying. Of course that sounded completely crazy in 2009/10 whenever this was
That's not true, this tinfoil hat twat was saying there are military guys sitting at desks just listening to peoples phone calls, not only would that be an impossible task it's just bullshit. They were collecting meta data and running pattern recognition software on it. And because its illegal to spy on your own citizens the U.S Gov get us Brits to spy on you and we get you to spy on us. Because no information illegally obtained can ever be used as evidence in any court. Also did he really sound like the kind of guy who a military intelligence personnel member would associate with? He's an uneducated paranoid slob.
Man I grew up listening to these guys. I would sneak ear buds into school and hide the wire up my sleeve and listen every morning. I’d even time my alarm as Ecstasy of Gold was starting.
This is a perfect why: O&A was the best radio show for having the best comedian regulars around, especially Patrice, keeping batshit callers on, talking about insane subjects like Manson conspiracy theories, being hilariously vulgar, Opie berating callers, Ant coming against Patrice with logic and witty sensibility, and doing one great bit for almost an hour. RIP.
I discovered Patrice O'Neil about 3 days ago. I've been bi ge watching him for about 72 hours now. This guy legit reframed my mind and thinking. I definitely needed it badly. Was with someone for 13 years and I'm 7 months out no contact with her. Really hurt badly as she randomly just moved out and into her brothers house with his wife and new baby and her sister. I helped raise her daughter from age 8 to now 21. Her and I met on a video game back in 2008 when I was 23 and she was 27. Talked 6 months and she took a bus to come see me. After a couple weeks, she just stayed. I was so happy. These past 7 months felt hopeless and just in dispare man.. dating NOW DAYS is totally different than back in 2008. It's so horrible now..pointless. Patrice logic way of thinking, describing EVERYTHING I went through but explaining the WHY behind it helps me understand it all. No way in hell could I get these answers anywhere else let alone from her , herself. I can't thank Patrice enough for finally explaining things. It seemed to be happening back then as well, but in 2021 it's very badly now days. Hrb definitely was ahead of the game and ahead of his time. I'd love to hear what he's gotta say about TODAY'S times. Rip Patrice 💪❤
Patrice is blunt, which is refreshing in this world of half-truths & pussy-footing. Nobody in media speaks up about how to reclaim your manly energy. There’s a Patrice-style comedian named “Aba.” He’s younger but similar attitude. Aba talks about growing up with tons of Oprah type resources, but no help about how to develop as a man. If you’re on the straight and narrow, just keep being a good person, don’t cave into the crowd. It all works out. You just gotta stick with it. Most people fail cuz they want their character to develop overnight.
Discovering Patrice makes you reevaluate every relationship you ever had, and makes you pissed at yourself for realizing everything you did wrong. Yet you walk away understanding why and feel better for it.
@@carloscjr23 Manson and the unabomber are not alike. The unabomber is a legitimate genius, Manson was a loon with enough charisma to trick some idiots into following him.
@@Pilkie101 Both have legitimate connections to the mk ultra program. And it was the very last time Manson went into prison and came out where he changed creating a cult following within a month after he was out.
Damn, after minute 30 a lot was revealed about this show. Anthony got so easily offended with Rene’s ‘cop party’ comment. Then Patrice realized Rene was probably only listening and calling in to disagree with Ant. Then Ant kind of let it slip that he hated the show as well. And for all the shit Opie got, he seemed to already know some people only listened because they disagreed with Ant. That’s why he slipped in that “Rene made some good points” line to further anger Ant.
I've never been to prison, so this is just my opinion. I think you would adapt over time, depending on who you are as person and which prison you are in, you'd eventually get into habits. That doesn't mean you'd be happy but I think you could achieve some version of peace. I mean, what do some people do. They go to work, they go home, that's it. That's not far from prison, depending on your perspective. Again, depends on who you are and which prison you are in, obviously some prisons are horrific, while others are more safe. Either way, let's think about what the point of prison is or should be. Is it not the point of prisons, to hold those we deem to dangerous to be out in normal society, so we as a culture have set up laws that if you break, we have designed a system of punishment to fairly judge how long we put you into a cell, lock you inside for a said time length, and then let you back out. So, what's the point of that time. We are punishing you by taking your free time. What should your time in prison be about. How should we set up a prison system to be an effective and efficient use of that time. It's used currently almost fully to the point of punishment. Our society views prison as a punishment, so they think it should have suffering. But why. Why not treat it like a school, I mean military school. If we used prison as a form of training people in a worthwhile matter, maybe prison would be useful and have better outcomes. Do we really need to lock evry single prisoner in a cell. Sure some humans are broken, i mean they are mentally or morally corrupt, they've done something so horrific, they need to be punished, for justice or revenge whatever. But I mean come on guys, we could turn our low level prisons into the next greatest banch of the United States military. I think I've made a great argument to set up our level prisons with military style bootcamp training programs. Why not. So many people in the system are non violent, some just in for drug trafficking dealing. Why not use that time we have justifiably taken from them, to train a new branch for the military. I'm just saying.
@@questionmark1152 Yeah... you actually kinda do. The point he's making is its frightening for first few months... but you learn the rules and eventually its just another environment. Yeah, they're not rotting away goofy emoji girl, they are just living their lives albeit with far less freedom.
This clip was late 2000s. 13:10 This guy knew about NSA spying on everyone years ahead of time, maybe he isnt such a kook. Two days ago I was talking about stocks with my brother with my phone in my pocket, suddenly I have ads for investing companies popping up. Creepy shit.
Shia LaBeouf said the same thing on a late night talk show during the same time when promoting a movie on that topic. It was pretty widely suspected, there just was never proof.
The NSA was hinted about by tom leher in the 60s... but he did it as comedy and nobody believed him. He was ome of the first people to work in it. And regularly joked about "we were all just spies"... but he was actually just telling the truth.
I mean, they did do that with Charles "Lucky" Luciano in WWII. The OSS (precurser to the CIA) knew that he had some friends on the docks in NY and in the hills of Sicily. They told him that they would let him out of jail if he helped them root out Nazi spies on the docks and assisted in the invasion of Sicily.
I've never been to prison but I've watched vids of prisoners and talked to a few, and all of them say its horrible. You can get raped, beat up, your shit stolen, you might be forced to commit another crime or be killed. You can't run from the inmates, they have gangs, you have to spend every day keepings yourself alive and on good terms with everyone. It does not sound like you would get used to that.
All those stories are from people in maximum security who are locked up with killers. In medium and especially minimum security prisons that shit doesn't happen very often. I know a guy who did 8 years and didn't have a single problem, didn't see anything F'd up, and left prison with a bachelor's degree.
@@charlest5604 Yeah...One guy. How many others had is experience? Have any idea of the reality that thousands go through to have one person be the exception? Jail is NOT sweet.
I know someone who murdered his girlfriend and abandoned his twin babies with them in the same room. He was in his early 20s when he tucked her away and got locked up. They gave him 14 years. He'll be out when he's my age
Renee owns Anthony on this one, called him out on being a stupid cop loving civilian and then they hung up on him. Patrice is right there’s no way prison gets much easier or enjoyable. Yes you get used to it but stabbings and murder still happen even decades into your sentence. What kind of life is that. You get numb to it. But any bad day on the outside is better than the best stay inside.
@@variable7833 I love Anthony, he’s hilarious. But he’s speaking for many situations he’s never been in. He’s admitted he’s a pansyy he doesn’t fist fight so he buys guns. He was a nerd in high school. I love him and Jim’s humility. But he shouldn’t speak on situations like he’s experienced them before. Patrice has actually been to prison. Also ant has some indoor cat he’s like a cat lady.
@@kjlkjjjk Yes prison is the penitentiary jails can be state facilities or whatever country you live in. Here in Canada we have pre-trial jails before federal prison. What’s your point what do you disagree with? You’re one of these people that thinks prison is easy?
I can attest to some of the horrors you experience in prison, so I get where you're coming from- some days it feels like the full moon was out the night before and its driving people up the walls You can have a good streak and then suddenly it all goes downhill and you wonder if you'll make it out alive. I've been packed out, held at gunpoint by guards, raided, sent to solitary for the dumbest nonsense- its like the army the only easy day was yesterday With that said, Anthony makes perfect sense: when you are in jail for anywhere beyond 2 years it becomes routine. People know you and you know the rules. Granted you're not that guy who is _always_ feeling some kind of way, people have no reason to beef with you This goes double if you're in there for being a maniac. Nobody wants problems with a stone cold killer. The circumstances would have to be really diverse for a person to go out of their way to stab you By my count, violence is either gang related (sorting stuff WITHIN the gang), a riot of sorts, things like stealing, or just people dont get along (personality clash) Violence never happens at random, even with a group of misfits, people are prone to common sense
Yeah trying to find the part where they talk about the swastika on the fore head lmfao - oh yeah Cassius, and then post this on the stupid fucking Tim O’Neal bullshit
These two white guys that ain’t ever spent time in the system don’t even know how to relate to what Patrice is proposing. He is saying that JAIL or any time you are sentenced to the state for a crime found guilty for then that should be the punishment. Nothing else after serving time should be possible. I served both military and some time for a DWI and my service was trumped by the jail sentence. So yes I agree with Patrice’s statement that after serving the time no other barriers need to be met from then on out. As for severe level offenses they obviously serve longer terms and mostly likely aren’t of sound mind after spending 25 plus years institutionalized since there is zero rehabilitation happening.
Patrice's point made complete sense to me. Yet, there's zero chance it will ever be this way unfortunately. You're branded with the scarlet J (or P) for life and everything's going to be harder and more bureaucratic whenever your background is available or has to be disclosed. But I do agree with you on the longer sentences and that there's no rehabilitation happening. It's punishment and crony corporate slavery. I can see people getting antsy about that and wanting nothing to do with it or some assurances. Now for the shorter ones, I think there should be zero bureaucracy to it. It should be down to personal preferences by individuals when it comes to how they feel about you as a person and your past.
Yeah plus u can hear the fakeness in louis voice when he says “child killers” like the tone sounds like he says it cuz that’s what other ppl say n to me it’s funny cuz mfs act like they really care like I really don’t believe that anyone gaf abt cases/ppl that face that penalty
Yes. I've been arrested twice for violent offenses (had bad emotional and psychological problems from my upbringing), I rehabilitated myself with therapy and a lot of self work, finished probation for my second arrest 2 years ago, and I can't live anywhere. No apartment complex/town house complex/mobile home park will accept me, and I can't get a good enough job to afford a house. I have 3 more years to go under Texas state law to be able to get an apartment again. Still won't be able to get almost any job that pays more than $70,000 a year because positions that pay that much are allowed to discriminate based on convictions up to 19 years back. 19 fucking years. Imagine someone doing a 10 year sentence than having to wait that 19 extra years to get a job paying more than $70,000. That's about 30 fucking years. You'd have to wait till you're an old fucking man to start working towards retiring. It's un-fucking-real
The "Operation Charlie Manson" guy toward the end said that the fact that the iceman is still alive "Proves a lot". Funny thing is, they only did two of those Christmas interviews before he died in 2005. Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia: In October 2005, after nearly 18 years in prison, Kuklinski was diagnosed with Kawasaki disease (an inflammation of the blood vessels). He was transferred to a secure wing at St. Francis Medical Center in Trenton, New Jersey. Although he had asked doctors to make sure they revived him if he developed cardiopulmonary arrest (or risk of heart attack), his then-former wife Barbara had signed a "do not resuscitate" order. A week before his death, the hospital called Barbara to ask if she wished to rescind the instruction, but she declined.[67] Kuklinski died at age 70 on March 5, 2006.[5] At the request of Kuklinski's family, noted forensic pathologist Michael Baden reviewed his autopsy report. Baden confirmed that Kuklinski died of cardiac arrest and had been suffering with heart disease and phlebitis.[63] Maybe he wasn't protected by the Illuminati, but got Epsteined by his wife? Or maybe the doctors took her advice over the 70 year old serial murderer and it's just as retarded as using Charlie Manson as a Donnie Brasco to Al Qaeda.
You never get used to prison. Thats like saying you get used to war. It may become your reality, but it doesn't mean shit is normal, and you don't suffer, just because you get to watch tv sometimes.
@@yemastarlidz thankfully no, just jail. But most of my friends and family have done time. I have been deployed several times though, and id say the experience isnt that different. Being in a foreign environment, loss of friends and family, shitty food, authority breaking your balls, boredom interupted by violence...
can speak from experience in saying that you adapt to being locked up really fast... after a few months you just get into the rhythm of the routine and time just kinda fades away.... it's not until your release date is on the horizon that time comes back and slows to a craw.
What Patrice said about parole is why I hate NJ. I got 4 years probation and they won't let me just do the prison time. I just did 7 months because an ex got mad I wouldn't take her back. She admitted in court she made it up. I'm still on probation!
You are telling half truths. You could of rejected the Plea you accepted with probation terms because you were not trying to do the full prison time. Now you are on probation and their job is to keep you from violating.
Patrice was definetely educating Opie and Anthony here I do respect Anthony And Opie though.. But man Patrice.. Always put these 2 in their place He was like father to these two hahahaha
Well there’s a new channel dropping clips with Opie now edited out. Be a man of your word and pay that man 😂 he does a great job at editing him out and making the conversation still go smoothly
Life in prison isn't for everyone. I believe some introverts, like possibly that serial killer Rifkin, can handle it and it becomes their routine life. But people leaning more towards the extrovert end of the scale will go insane. Some people have a rich inner life, mentally, others don't. Others live externally. And in their case, prison will deprive them of their lives.
FUCK! I just slammed my tablet down listening to that shit. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU OPIE! Christ IM mad for no reason listening to that fucking obnoxious shit dick.
He asks the conspiracy Anthony guy a question and he starts to answer and Opie immediately screams "hol on hold on hold on!!! Let's go to someone else real quick, alright go ahead conspiracy guy" jesus
