People really don't like the Tau 

"In every artwork depiction of T'au the T'au are losing. Because if the T'au were winning they'd be ten miles away" -Adeptus Ridiculous

We hear so much of humans and xenos races being a part of the Tau Empire yet we have no models for them. Sure, we can kit-bash but having official models for them would be so much better.

The part I actually like about the tau are the non-tau aliens that annoyingly rarely get used beyond the occasional kroot. Having a group trying to do an ill-fated Federation in 40k of all places is neat

I like that the Tau are portrayed as actually SMART. Sure, they make a lot of mistakes thanks to their naiveté, but they only make those mistakes once. They adapt, they learn, and they get better at countering their foes.

They need more models of the other alien races, could then fit into detachment rules and make it so certain races do certain things but require certain models to field with etc

I think what the tau needs for models are more xenos auxillaries. We have enough battlesuits, what we need more of are infantry and other heavy choices. I also think that human psykers in the tau could be cool too, since humans live in the Tau Empire. Maybe a similar rule to Brood Brothers for the tau could be cool, idk

You forgot one of the earliest hate non players had on the Tau in the table top. The move shoot move aspect, early Tau battle suits had the option to move instead of charge in the assault phase. So you could move out of cover light something up then jump back into cover. I always used my kroot as hand to hand shock absorbers.

I think the tau serve as one of the two "Frame of Reference" factions in the game. The other being the Astra Militarum showing us, this is what a normal human being with a bit of combat training and a fairly powerful standard infantry weapon is like... And here is how much stronger all this other shit is. The tau on the other hand serve to say: "Here is a faction with a fairly reasonable scale and idea of modern interstellar warfare - and here is how batshit insane everyone else is by comparison"

My favorite moment of tau lore is when they killed an astartes chapter master (I think black templars) and rejoiced because they thought they had killed the king of the astartes. Those poor naive tau.

As factions in the universe, I like both the rebel/military junta Farsight Enclaves and the colectivist, slowy-learning-and-adapting-to-how-shitty-the-galaxy-actually-is main T'au Empire. I think their status as the new kids on the block gives great story telling oportunities for their optimistic ideologies (wether individualism or colectivism) to meet and adapt to the cruel reality of the setting. And Farsight himself is great as a reflection of Horus, the greatest hero of the empire learning the secular teachings of his race are a knowing lie.

The tau being OP in tabletop isn't bad on the tau, it's bad on the tabletop not being designed well enough to cope with them. A faction that shoots its enemies shouldn't be some strange concept that is impossible to counter. This just tells me that all the other factions are designed in a hampered way where melee is forced on them rather than being a benefit.

You probably are not old enough. But I remember when the Tau came out Halo was metal boxes huge and a lot of people that got into rightfully assumed that they were going to be getting a Covenant style army with lots of specialized race units.

I think the Tau not being very grimdark makes the rest of the setting more grimdark by contrast. All that horror that is life under the Imperium isn't as necessary as one would be led to believe.

The Tau feel like a faction that belongs in a different setting who just happened to accidentally stumble into 40K and have to deal with the absurdity of the setting.

5:01 I love how that Reiver in the middle just looks like he's confiscating that Tau's gun, like, "Err, nope. You tried to shoot me, I'm taking your toy away." And the Tau's looking down at it, like, "Awww man..."

Tau just feel so underdeveloped. For a faction that can draw on lots of different alien races, you'd think their whole tabletop thing would be "Haha, diversity is our *strength!* We can do *all sorts* of tactics!" and let players go wild with custom setups. That would tie in to their lore, too; Tau are able to stay competitive with the much bigger factions by deploying specific strategies to counter their enemies. But I guess the ultrasmurfs winning their four millionth battle is what makes GW money, so here we are.

From a game perspective, I can see why they'd be boring. From a lore perspective however, I think they're fine. The best pieces of fiction tend to have some kind of minor contrast within their lore that serves to highlight what makes their lore so great in the first place. The Tau offer a minor, yet significantly differing perspective that only makes us appreciate the grim darkness even more.

Tabletop-wise, I think they kinda need their auxiliaries. That's a good call to break up their gunline playstyle and it's weird they just...backed off on it. Lore-wise...I really like 'em, as an outsider. It's genuinely kind of funny and interesting that there's an alien race that just...takes the role we'd usually take. And in another setting they could easily be a villain! But here? They're basically the good guys. Emperor help them.

The thing is, the way the lore has been changed has given them a seedier backstory, with the Ethereal caste and water caste manipulating worlds to join their cause or manipulating their own people. People just don't look much into Tau lore and still think its the exact same as when they first came out: Noblebright, naïve blue weaboos. On the outside, they appear to be a 'good' faction (even when you know all the stuff they do in secret, its still honestly not that bad in comparison to other factions). On the inside, they work towards their own ulterior motives. One example being an imperial world that was suffering from faulty water purification systems across its hive cities. The T'au would arrive and offer aid and work to bring them into the fold. In truth, it was the T'au that had sabotaged the world's infrastructure among other things to seed discord and ultimately ease the world into their care and eventual control. Other worlds have humans being brought into grand academies for study and research when in truth they're being studied for their psychic potential so the T'au can better understand how psykers work. Their commanders are given engram neural chips that make them pseudo-copies of their greatest leaders, soldiers and civilians brainwashed into thinking they're far grander than their empire really is. This isn't even getting into the Farsight Enclaves which are honestly, probably the best part of the tau. Ironically, the fact that people still view them as these hopelessly optimistic, noble do-gooders is just how their façade works in lore as well.

I love Tau for the exact reason most hate them, they’re “Noblebright” as opposed to grimdark. They provide a compelling contrast to the rest of the setting. You also get those fascinating new-kid-on-the-block moments where everything is some fresh new hell of incomprehensible terror (Like the Dreadnought moment in Damocles Crusade or the Dark Eldar “cultural enrichment” party).

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I think what I like about the Tau is that they just don't look cool but also are practical for the most part. They fight from far away because why get seen when you can kill your opponent without them knowing?

What really hurts the Tau in my opinion is that they are the faction of wasted potential. The near total focus on suits and being the shooting army GW has had for them has really hurt any kind of variety beyond fielding a different type of suit and It means they tend to seesaw back and forth from helpless to obnoxious on the table top while lacking variety for anyone who isn’t 110% into the suits. They are supposed to be a multi species empire that on the table top consist of like 4 maybe 5 sculpts. The suits and being a shooting faction aren’t even inherently the problem. The near total over focus is. Imagine if the guard only have tanks or orks only have their fast attack units as their entire army theme and identities completely circle around those units while we are vaguely told the other stuff does exist with little to no table top representation for those units.

in my opinion GW really missed an opportunity by going for the "corrupt leaders" trope again in the form of the pheromones and sterilization shenanigans, when there was a perfectly good lead staring them right in the face from the inception of the Tau as a concept namely, their naive overuse of AI at the time of the Tau's release during 3rd edition, the men of iron lore was still fairly sparse but was well known to serious fans, as it was one of those foundational pieces of lore derived from dune that helped set the tone for the whole setting. we understood that humanity had this dark past involving AI gone rogue which explained their use of servitors and stuff so when the Tau released with all their autonomous drones and AI guided weapons systems, there was something implicit about that which mirrored the lore concerning the dark age of technology. the imperium would look upon these creations as abominations, and might well view the Tau not unlike how the Eldar often see humanity, like careless primitives messing with forces beyond their understanding so much could have been done with this. we could have seen divisions within Tau society between the pro-tech and low-tech systems, some leaning more on the AI and drones and others relying more on traditional allies like the Kroot. we might eventually see some emergent AI make a power grab skynet style or manipulate members of the ethereal caste from behind the scenes. maybe there'd be rules for the possibility of experimental drone systems going rogue or some special character who buffs all your AI units but no, we just got more corrupt leaders, with the ethereals turning out be be just another bunch of evil priests. fucking yawn

The Tau are an excellent concept for a mixed species, heavily specialized army that is hugely hampered by the fact that of all the species available, the only good ones are the Tau. Make Kroot and Vespids worth fielding and a lot of their problems would be solved, though in and of itself it would introduce new and equally infuriating problems. Good Kroot, for example, would end up with having a great screening/tarpit unit for an already heavily shooty army for little real loss in firepower, unless you drastically upcosted them.

To me, the tau would be more interesting if GW went FULL ON Halo Covenant with them. Maybe without the religious zealotry bc that's the imperium's thing, unless they wanted to make them into an alien mirror of the Imperium. But still, there's so many Alien races that we've only read about, and the Tau are a beautifully blank canvas for something like that. Imagine being able to field Tau aligned Eldar, or take Ork Freebooterz as allies. Shoot, even Tau-aligned human troops would be interesting. Just something to make them seem more like a true conglomerate than "ok we got three different races, call us diverse."

I don't hate the Tau, far from it. I like them, just not enough to ever leave the Imperial Guard for them. The Guard is humanity's ACTUAL defense, the Astartes just don't have the numbers to hold most worlds, and it's the job of the Guard to pick up the slack. There's something incredibly noblebright about the Guard as a whole, even if their commanders are as grimdark as it gets. The ordinary infantry are too endearing for me to ever defect to the Tau.

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Tbh it feels like a lot of people hate tau because that's what you do in the community. Older players told stories and shared experiences about how miserable JSJ or Fish of Fury was to fight against and newer players decided to hate them for the sins of the past without looking at the present.

I share PancreasNoWork's opinion on the Tau: We were SUPPOSED to get a "Covenant-faction". What we got was "the Prophets in mech-suits"...

one of the problems of Tau lore is that they can't suffer massive losses. With every other faction the writers can invent another tombworld(necron) or another craftworld (eldar) that can lose against the Imperium. The Tau empire is soo small they cant lose any world.

Tau need their xenos races to become models, because they HAVE psychic xenos ajd HAVE strong xenos that COULD round them out. But no, lets just make more gunpla.

The Air caste could also fly on their own at some point in time due to webbing between their limbs or something like that

Tau: *[thinks imperial technology is primitive]* Me, an Iron Hand: *[LAUGHS IN GRAVITON FLUX BOMBARD]*

In less than 1000 years humans (us) have effectively gone from sic - ‘banging sticks and rocks together’ to space flight, given another 2000 years we’ll likely have an equivalent level of technology (the bits that grounded in some reality) as the Imperium. Therefore it’s not entirely unprecedented. It’s worth bearing in mind that the lore reflects the tabletop not the other way round, and that guns were literally created so you didn’t need to get close to your opponent, which in reality makes sense but makes for a boring war game.

I feel like Tau are being hated just for the sake of hating.

What the less enlightened members of the community fail to realise is that the tau are perfect examples of grimdark; here is a faction of cooperative, diplomatic, technologically advanced people eager to bring new ideas to the galaxy and they're too late. Everyone else is so lost to their own egos and failures that they'll never have a change of heart and settle things peacefully, half of them can't even comprehend the term. But the tau are fortunate, since they're so minor as factions go that none of the other factions can spare the time or recourses to deal with them. So the tau are left in this dichotomy of too weak to achieve anything on a galactic scale but too strong for any one factions to destroy... and they're the only good guys left. That is chefs kiss levels of grim dark.

I think what got me interested in the Tau was the accepting of other species and I would like to see more small level xenos I like kroot lore and vespids are okay-ish, but I kinda want to see those jello creatures that are apart of the Tau empire or anything like that I feel like they could be a really good gateway to many minor xenos to getting some spotlight.

does he sound high because it is his natural state or is that the tau kicking in?

To me it sounds like the Tau embody the role that humans usually do. New kid on the block, scrappy and work together to overcome the sleeping giants. There's a lot of things I like about 40K, but the stagnant empire in decline is not one of them. I also like when PancreasNoWork talked about the Covenant in 40K. I see that as better Tau.

People hate the Tau because of the utter self righteousness the player base have for them. They’re literally convinced they’re the best just because their non-ideology is called the greater good.

Back in 8e, I ran krootox riders because they were the best antitank option available at the time. This is, of course, no longer the case, but yes, kroot and vespid are typically outperformed by T'au units, breachers and stealth battlesuits respectively.

Personally I love that there's at least one race in the universum that is not absolutely depressing.

What people seem to miss, is that the Tau ARE grimdark. Yes, they SEEM like the opposite of what 40k is, but that's the point. They are so small compared to everyone else except for maybe the Eldar and their own splinter faction, that no matter how much better things are for them, it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things. The Farsight Enclaves are an even more extreme version of this, being arguably one of the best places to live in the entire galaxy, yet being a handful of worlds dwarfed even by the Tau Empire. In short, the grimdark comes from these much brighter factions being too small to ever make a real difference for the galaxy at large.

I Just think tau are neat I like the idea that you get to make an army made of many species all in the Same Battle There Is a lot GW can do with the tau, i would love a Vespid or Kroot comander, or Just new figures of other species in the empire I also like that its something that feels more unique to the universe rather than a fantasy faction but in space And i mean the idea that they are "good guys" isnt ruining the grimdark, since they are so small and worthless that any faction could end them if they really cared Its like a Little whisper of Hope in hell Kinda depressing and very grimdark

I kinda wish that instead of Psycker effects, they got a Tech phase for Markerlights and all their cool stuff. Additionally, they definitely could do with adding more non-tau units to the models, like human and psykers.

The kid that throws rocks from a distance than getting it the dirt like everyone else

I don't hate the Tau, I just wish they would do more with them. Maybe give them the means of long distance transportation to engage with the rest of the galaxy, which turns their idealistic approach to conquest into their very own brand of grim darkness, since there is no other way to survive in this horror show.

I like that they exist, being more chill and less grimdark helps to show just how bad everything is just by having a comparison and it opens up the option to have them be naive. I also think it is hilarious how they must view humans, to them humans are an ancient race of savages with a weird mishmash of very advanced tech and very primitive strategies that yell "for the Emperor!!" like nutcases. Like seriously they learn that all of the human's stuff is literally older than their civilization and that these weirdos have hive worlds where one city has more people than there is tau, they must be absolutely baffled and terrified of humans. But I do think they need some human and some more xeno motels that can take up the front lines for them, will give them some melee options so that nerfing their ranged capabilities wont screw them.

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I would love them if they wouldn't have forgott about the other member races. Like the gigantic godzilla motherfuckers in plate armor sounds awesome. There are other cool ones but they're the only ones I remember from the top of my head

It still blows my mind how shamelessly the Tau can use the Marathon sigil as their own.

Tabletop reason #1: Fish of Fucking Fury Tabletop Reason #2: The best way to play them is "Don't let the enemy interact with you." Which is boring for the other player.

I'm honestly surprised at the amount of restraint that both this video and its comment section has at not mentioning a certain tau......you know.....the red one.....FARSIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You’re my favorite 40k channel. I really like how you’re able to keep it light and funny without going into the whole “haha tits” major kill style humor

I think the Tau should be the Misc Xenos faction. Everyone and the kitchen sink approach, where you can field weird mix armies of Freebooter Orks, Kroot, Imperial Guard Renegades, Zoats. Or more weirder alien races that may or may not be enslaved, or other thematic xenos armies without them needing to make an entirely new faction. If balance is a concern, and use the new 3 of the same unit limit but have it be also faction dependent for non-Tau units. So only 3 Imperial units, 3 Ork units, and the rest Tau core.

The T'au were my very first choice to go with and is what got me into 40k. I dont see how people can get so heated over such a silly thing like plastic. Then I remember that I've gotten heated over plastic and somewhat understand lmao

people don’t like the T’au because they’re nerds who don’t think they’re edgy enough

I feel that the people who think they aren't grimdark enough for the setting don't really understand the horror of them. They might be one of the darkest of the factions if what is being hinted at is true.

The only part of them I have issue with is how the "no melee" tendency inherently contradicts the gundam aesthetic. They need beam sabers and heat hawks desperately.

I used too love the tau's asthetics but then I moved to the farsight enclaves and then I found my favourite secret green boys. Dark angels

I got a fix for the Grimdark issue with the Tau. Rugged cloaks. Just give every model a rugged cloak, even the giant mechsuits, Have them wear a fucking 50 square ft burlap cloak. Instant gritty fix for the tau. Faction wise I do like them, it is a cool contrast that they are hyper advanced, but because of this they are not used to the unga bunga of the 40k setting. Though I am genuinely shocked you didn't mention the Farsight Enclaves once, especially since they got a lil bit more juice in the recent Angron stuff. Farsight is basically just Tau but better.

1:37 just a little ball floating into space. once you notice it you start suspecting it in every circular area.

Honestly, I feel that people get grimdark a bit wrong whenever it comes to tau and such. What they think as grimdark is more like derp for the sake of derp such as: Plasma reactor exchange/vent needing a live human to do it, killing em obvs once its done. Corpse starch being the only ration of food, de-facto ration for hiveworlds and imperial guard. Imperial navy vessel broadside guns/macro battery needing live slaves to load their fuck ton guns as if it was the seven seas 1700s cannons. Canonizing the oversaturated memes of kriegers, commissars and imperium as a whole. Forgetting that while the imperium is authoritarian in behavior since its an empire, its very lenient and in some cases liberal with a few things and not fully "submit to my version or die" Official example being the Imperial creed in regards to the Emperor worship, following the roman pantheon example of "your god is just big E and even if he walked among you, he was ALWAYS a god" We also got xenos allies both officially in terms of cyber chimps and unofficially in terms of eldar, ork mercs ect ect. Also there should be light and hope even in grimdark, more cain and gaunt style of "while the war for this planet was won, countless more were lost somewhere else for we are mere cogs in a machine of eternal war." And less "Imma rip your skin off and bathe in your blood cuz your blood wards off daemons n shitz, the emperor protects!" Grimderpness in my opinion in regards to how 40k does its lore. Let it be bleak and unending but remember the humanity of light that still exist at times even within a universe of death, destruction and war with only laughing thirsting gods as company as mankind flutters away like ash.

I think that tau need more alien auxiliary units or more farsight specific units for the model range

I like the Tau for their aestetics (I mean armoured Core mechs blowing up bone titans and madmax figter jets is fucking awesome) and their lore with the caste system and all the alien auxilaries, but I also love them because they're a necessary proof that the Imperium's way of doing things isn't the only one, they put the xenophobic ideologies of the Emperor to question, they ask if you can control people though quality life and subtle indoctrination instead of enforced fear and militaristic propaganda. On the other hand the biggest problem I have with the Tau is that, compared to the Imperium, they're thematically/narratively under developed/utalized, an example of the one issue that 40k greatly suffers from in my opinion: the fact that GW won't develop the setting from the status qoe, it's all 'imperium this' or 'space marines that' that once you have something to challenge the ideologies of the Imperium or possess a different aestetic it's immeditaly treated as 'not fitting in', treated as a case of 'bad writing', and treated as 'the other'. Keep in mind that this is an issue that permeates with every other faction, Chaos can't be implied as slightly good because it's always been evil and it would make the Imperium less justifiable, Eldar can't win because they're the dying race like always and then the Imperium won't be all powerful, Tau can't exist because they're anathema to every theme and aestetic the Imperium presents I bet if Orks were introduced later in the setting's life they'd be ridiculed for being too silly, if the Leagues of Votann didn't have the backed community love for the Squats they be treated the same as the Tau, that if the Eldar weren't in the setting nothing would be lost for a lot of fans who never cared to look into them Only the Tyranids and early Necrons would exist to serve the purpose of the Flood or Zurg as an exsetential evil threat to be overcome by the Imperium 40k feels like a setting that wants to only be about humans and the Imperium, but also isn't that because there's clearly _some_ effort being put into all the other xenos factions and developing them, which because of whome 40k becomes a setting with infinite thematical and narrative potential such as the development of empires, themes of extreme idiology, ideas behind social sytems and if they work or not, and stories about morality and hypocrisy. _And_ it also gives varied armies/factions and aestetics that blend fantasy with scifi alongside any other genre and allows for demons to fights ww2 tanks and mechs But because of the former the Imperium must be righ, it must be the only aestetic, if you think otherwise you're a heretic, if you though you can do what you want in this _sandbox_ then you must be gatekept and all examples of the contrary are anomalies and stupid, Harleyquinns can't beat the Custodes, Grey Knights would never be hypocrytical enough to bathe in the blood of genuenley good Sisters of Battle, and the Emperor was never wrong and must be resurrected for the betterment of _the galaxy_ It's ironic how the most logical depiction of a scifi civalization is treated as so alien, it's saddening how stale many 40k fans want the setting to be, it's depressing how little GW are doing with the setting's potential.

One game, don’t know what edition, banshees in a transport can rushing up to my gun line and hammerhead. I do some quick sums and use the gun line to shoot at the transport. Elder player “why did you do that and not use the tank.” Gun line immobilises the transport, banshees pop out. Hammerhead drops its no save (S and AP were too high) template on the banshee squad, template dice is the crosshair. Entire banshee squad is wiped out. Me “that’s why, your transport shooting at me isn’t a threat, those banshees were. Hitting the transport with one dice roll was way too risky”

"farsight enclave is for tau players who dont like tau" adeptus ridiculous im one of em cause i like theyre blood red look and theyre "well shit the universe is a shithole even my own leaders but i refuse to break" attitude

I love Tau lore, as a Tau collector, I would like more Tau infantry models though and more auxiliaries.

They have the best armor architecture imho. Compact and reminiscent of lamellar, that always goes really well with solid bright color paints. Lorewise into tabletop, i really only have fun playing my Custom Tau Faction that i made. They have a limited roster of vehicles and platforms, but have a heavy discount on drones, normal tau infantry are actually considered scouts, while the heavy infantry are multi-wound xv25s that can turn their invisibility fields into power-maul boosters in close combat. The available mechs you can still choose from all have at least 2 melee options, as well as slightly better armor/hp on average. The major downside being the restricted unit pool across the board, from exclusions of ethereals like farsight, to vespid and kroot, to only having a few options that can carry railguns.

4:35 Dear doctor! Their is social mobility in the Tau society. Every great Tau general started as a common foot soldier. The foot soldier just can't become an engineer or diplomat. Also, their philosophy is supposed to be Shinto-Buddhism not communism, but that misconception is never going to die. I fell in love with this faction playing the Dawn of War: Dark Crusade game. Combined arms, overwhelming firepower, and unit positioning were key and I LOVED IT.

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What do I think? I FREAKING LOVE THE T'AU T'au and Tyranids are my two favorite factions of 40k. The only thing I think holds them back is the tabletop, which can be solved by just focusing more on auxiliary races. Buff the Kroot and Vespids for the Melee support, add more units of these races, and of course, add a Psychic auxiliary race so that you can actually cast spells with the T'au. If you still want to go the Mobile Suit Gundam way, make the T'au actually adapt to play the game of the Galaxy: create actual bulky melee Mechas, with power fists and laser swords and everything else, but make it a little bit expensive on the point side so that it doesn't overshadow the ranged focus of the army. I think that could diversify A LOT the playstyles of the T'au: You could just make a line of elite and bulky melee Mechas, or play the Tau normally, or go the Covenant route of making an Auxiliary only army. That's what I think could save the Tabletop T'au.

One thing I actually like about the tau is that they feel like if we, in real life, were suddenly exposed to the 40K world, and having no idea how to fight these things, they try to use the same tactics we use in real life, like only using guns instead of a blade on a stick because they still don't know what they're up against. I hate playing them, but I actually like them from a lore perspective for this reason.

I find it great how in recent lore farsight has just been going full khorne one snapping back last moment but i feel like he’s gonna be a big player in tau lore very soon

a buddy of mine played tau for a bit and at that time I was building up and playing with my Imperial Guard Army.... because shooting was soo heavy in both armies it literally was, who rolled to go first won, because both me and my friend had out of line of sight shooting, hell I was running 6 earth shaker carriages in the army because in 9th they came as squads of 3 so even if you were in cover you were basically liable to get large chunks of your army wiped before you got to play

Neutral on the Tau, love though the Farsight Enclave.

I don't hate Tau it's just like a collective race of different alien species isn't that exiting to me. Warhammer 40k has so much crazy stuff and playing/collecting a rather mild and somewhat nice faction isn't the reason i started this hobby. The grimdark, over the top and sometimes very deep stuff is why i'm invested

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I am soooo fucking glad we got this kroot range- hell expansion not even refresh, they always felt weirdly anemic before, like the singular vespid unit felt cooler because it has so much personality, but kroot hadnt really had that carved out yet

Tbh i like a gun line, im an ork player, love getting stuck in and fighting, even when playing death guard and now im changing my space marines into the black templars, so i very much like the foght phase, however, playing as necrons i like my gun lines and ive always wanted to get a tau army just to have a dedicated gun line because i love the drones ability to sacrifice themselves and or help them, although i dont know what drones are like now

people don’t like the tau because their tactics are actually logical and efficient. It is entirely unreasonable to say that the tau survive through plot armor when the Imperium only continues to exist because of it. Plus the space marines have a habit of taking their helmets off and the tau are more than happy to pop their brains. Farsight wrote the Mirror Codex, a hard counter to the Codex Astartes, because of his years of studying the ultramarine successors he’s been slapping around, RIP Scarlords.

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"no one likes the tau" Me "Am I a joke to you"

what is the tau. Blue bovine without horns. often made to have big udders :D

If the Tau are an unmoving gunline, how do they capture forward objectives in matched play? I have never played against them in matched.

Ironic how the “good guys” have become the antagonist, the common enemy.

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What the Tau needs is to end its babysitting period and introduce it into the large scale shitstrom the galaxy is. Let them fight wagh the size if the one that attacked hellsreach. Let them fight a whole hive fleet not the splinter hive, and their AI should rebel. Also total immunity to chaos? They have protagonist syndrome. Let them expirience hell like everyone else does. Except for Orks. Orks have fun.

My best friend and 40K partner I got into the hobby with plays Tau. I almost always wipe the floor with him, with guardsmen, bayonets affixed, a few squads and a Flamer left standing. Tactics, tactics, tactics. Flank and maneuver, multi angled attacks, simultaneous strikes, and strong defensive lines. ☠️ *The Emperor protects* ☠️

The tau should get some bipedal salamander or axolotel looking people for psykers.

I would like to say that the Ordo Xenos & Death Watch have been able to pull some suprises on the Tau. Ref; Stormbreaker book.

The Tau with the Imperium is like most people to Americans. "Why . . . Why would you do that?!" I don't dislike the Tau, really. Maybe because I'm newer to 40k. To me it seems like some 40k players just like to complain. A lot. About everything. "Hurr Durr, meh grimdark, boo hoo, everything doesn't suck and isn't hopeless, why are there more women?" I mean, as a dark angel and necron fan, fuck the Tau on tabletop and as a whole, but also they're pretty cool to exist, and have cool tech and video game presence.

The only way id ever stop hating the tau, is if gw stop with the battlesuut spam, focus more on a combined arms warfare style instead of gunline and actually expand the range with more non-tau units. Ie: kroot, vespid and etc.

"If you've been playing for a while" I wish I could.

IN 3000 YEARS..... Mankind went from banging rocks together to Space Ships

I feel great joy every time i hear about the newest horror the Tau encounter.

I got introduced to 40k from dawn of war, and i gotta say, tau was pretty cool. Having them as basically the anti-imperium was pretty fun. Sleek, classy, with high tech guns. That said, i basically exclusively played as space marines because of the dreadnaughts. I once spent an hour turtling and building a massive army, only to win by accident because i had a dreadnaught out on patrol who single handed lay wiped out the whole enemy team (i was a kid i played on easy difficulty)

I feel the writers and designers don't really know what they want the tau to be.

Would be super funny if the t'au had a couple of functional stc's at the beginning of their of their iron age. 😅😅😅