A huge crash on the Red Bull Ring involving Ryan Tveter, Pedro Piquet and Peter Li Zhi Cong Make sure to join the forum for more at tbk-light.com/phpBB3
FYI: Zhi Cong Li, the driver that flew through the air, ended up with both heels broken and four broken vertebrae. He had a long stay hospital, then resumed racing.
@Ricardo Porto Senna died from a broken suspension arm that went through his visor. When you see how the wheel tethers are not perfect today, I'm not sure modern advances could have stopped that freak accident. I do think those two corners that killed those drivers would be lined with a TecPro barrier though. A sprinkling of gravel and a concrete wall was an accident waiting to happen.
It's a tragic world; 150,000 people die each day worldwide. Should one be in a perpetual state of mourning? Some are, and they can become chronically depressed and add to the death toll, too. Oh, the irony!
no they were there almost instantly, but they focused on the second car that crashed into him since he didn't seem to move :/ was quiet shocking moment
Adrenaline is an insane chemical and can keep an injured person from outright falling over when they should be on the ground. I had an electrical accident working on 3 phase industrial power. It burned the skin off my arms and hands and neck and the side of my face. The skin was falling off of me in many places and I calmly walked to the nearest water source partially undressed and doused my body to remove any residual heat in the skin . I made a phone call and in the time it took me to walk from my work location to the front door I had someone there waiting for me in a vehicle for a direct drive to the local hospital. I walked myself into the emergency room during the height of local Covid restrictions explained my injuries ( as if it wasn't mostly obvious) signed a form and walked to a hospital bed in the emergency room. In all around 10 minutes had elapsed and as soon as I sat in that bed my body immediately crashed and I lost all ability to regulate my own blood pressure. Everyone there said I turned white as a dead man and my blood pressure didn't register on the heart monitor for a short period of time.
@@btwbrand How the hell are you even able to tell this story right now with such nonchalance? You are on another lever of super-patient if you've indeed suffered 3rd degree burns over a significant portion of your body. From what i've researched, 3rd & 4th degree burns over seemingly most of your body would mean you're in ICU for almost the entire recuperating from the dozen or more surgeries and grafts. What are we missing? I presume you are still hospitalized? Wishing you a pain-free and speedy recovery. God Speed.
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The driver of the second car was coming off a curve and had about a second or slightly less to react. If you had watched the entire video, you would have heard the commentators pointing out that the combination of the curve and the dust meant that there was no time to react.
@@abaraviciusdominykas4584 They are drivers at that level because they exactly do have quick reaction times. He went into a cloud of dust with gravel on the road without deviating neither from the line nor from his speed. And the corner before is not that tight that you can't see what's ahead. In my book, the intensity of the crash is highly avoidable.
Kind of. I won't make this long, but it comes down to one main reason. The death at spa consisted of the car being hit twice with back to back hard hits. The cars are only meant to handle one hit, meaning it's structural integrity was gone at the first hit. Here, each car only took on one hit (aside form the one that caught air but that'd have damaged the floor). Hope that made sense.
@@GetawayFilms with all due respect... I said what I know about the spa crash and applied other things I knew to come up with my answer. Again not fighting you, but if there's something different going on I'm all ears. Genuinely I'd like to know.
@@GetawayFilms what the hell is wrong with you?? the guy just listed facts in an attempt to explain something and then you, who didn't even have anything to do with it, got offended by it....?!
@@nitanshkinger4465 But but but #3 was hit twice... I'm several years late but it's bothering me that no one has pointed this out lol. Luckily the second hit was more of a glancing blow.
I was expecting the dust to clear and see another car in the gravel, not the Millenium Falcon drop out of lightspeed straight into the back of THAT car! :o
Without a doubt one of the heaviest shunts i have ever seen! This incident speaks volumes to the advances in technology and safety within formula race-cars.
I don't watch basically any sport, but two things confused me: 1. Why do they not care about the guy who went flying, and how were they so calm when it happened? 2. Why are those three people watching grinning?
Too dangerous to go out on the track. There's going to be more injuries and possibilities of death if they go out and help him while there are cars still returning to the pits/grid.
Ryan Tveter (who spun, stopped, got hit & jogged to the side of the track) was released from hospital after suffering a badly bruised knee. Peter Li Zhi Cong (the driver who goes airborne) was initially unconscious, but was conscious by the time he was airlifted to hospital and was diagnosed with broken bones in his heel, which will require surgery, and four fractured vertebrae in his back.
What an impact... Hope all drivers are alright. I think it might be Li's savior that the car got launched up into the air, meaning that most of the force got dissipated into the air instead of all the force coming from the front. Nonetheless an insane crash...
horrifying crash, thoughts out to Zhi Cong 'Peter' Li, hope his injuries aren't too severe... This wreck reminds me of drag racing's Bruce Allen Kenny Koretsky Pro Stock crash back in 2005.
The guy behind was going fast and couldn't react at all, he saw the crashed car is out of the track then the dust came in while the crashed car came back to the track, the car behind was also still around the apex so he couldn't see clearly the next corner
In my experience in racing simulators, and by listening on TV to the professionals, the best chance to avoid a crash is to slow down. Sometimes though, like in this case, there just is no time to slow down, so you reduce what speed you can and hope that there is a gap when you get to the crash scene.
@@elgamerico Racing simulators are actually much more realistic than you might think if you have the right hardware. I spent about $1000 on my rig and it's not perfect, but I get a great feel for the car.
Boa noite meu Amigo !!!! Absolutamente fantástico. Muito assustador mesmo. Graças à DEUS foi só um susto. Muito obrigado pelo vídeo e parabéns pelo canal. Abraço do Brasil.......
I am sorry for being 10 months late but the guy who got hit in the back must have absorbed most of the energy from the crash, the flying car actually dispersed (hope it is the right word) a lot of the energy from the impact thanks to the air resistance and rotational forces. It is actually safer to be airborne than to absorb the whole impact when you compare the two cases.
They comment on him rather than the guy that flew because thats all that they could comment about. The only thing they saw for sure is that he got out and what he was doing, the rest is up to the track personel since the commentators have no information on anything else thus they cant commentate on it.
I think its more like he had a split of a second after the corner to see what happens. And he had someone behind him. slamming the brakes would result into him getting backcrashed. If you cant see shit and its too late to brake all you can do is hope.
This makes me wonder about F1's safety in this kind of crash. In the last few years, they've been making the noses lower to avoid cars going over the top of the car in front. So if this is a success, doesn't this mean the driver will just be crushed into the back in an accident like this or at least suffer a much greater impact?
Maybe, though on the other hand I can't imagine that noone at FIA thought of that risk. However, the car behind would push itself beneath the car in front (as seen in Spa this year and Melbourne 2014), the question is how far.
Omega Ah yes that's a very good example of it happening. Maybe the way it deforms stops it from going too far somehow and maybe as a result the risks of flying into catchfencing/crowd are greater but it certainly looks dangerous to me.
Unbelievable I know, but not everybody will have had full awareness of exactly what happened, nor do you know what they were talking about and thinking or seeing at the time the camera was on them. Grow up.
Reminds me of that insane rainy, misty and foggy F1 race in Spa 1998... Schumacher crashed into a very slow Coulthard seeing nothing and continued on three wheels
From +Redline Motors "Thankfully Zhi Cong Li is reported to have minor injuries including multiple broken heel bones and four fractured vertebrae which do not require surgery."
+dutchdiamondback there's no news at the moment "Early reports are that Li is awake and alert in the medical centre, Tveter is also in the medical centre with light injuries, and Piquet is unharmed." from www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/124396
No they shouldn't. There are so many reasons why you wouldn't want to use calcium chloride in this setting. It's extremely corrosive, the setting process is very long and it's not suited for this application. You use it for dust control on roads that are being ridden on and increases grip. This would literally do the opposite of what a gravel trap is meant to do.
That's Carl Foggarty in the stand the most successful World Superbike racer of all time in terms of the number of championships and number of race wins.
I cant see through that dust cloud that was just caused by a car that I cant see anywhere.... I know what to do, I'll just assume there is nothing there and HOLY SHIT where did that come from?
+Southeastern Ohio Homestead Dust clouds like that are caused all the time by cars running slightly wide, the chances of a stationary car being behind it is incredibly unlikely. To the best of Li's knowledge that car had continued onto the circuit as normal after running wide.
+Southeastern Ohio Homestead At that point of the track at the speeds F3 cars can carry through there he was going into the cloud whether he wanted to or not as any attempt to change the cars course would have resulted in a loss of control that could very easily have seen him rolling through the gravel trap. All he could do was hold his line, throw the anchors out and pray. Unfortunately, in this case there was a stationary car there but equally fortunately it was facing in the same direction as Li was travelling, if Tveters car had been broadside across the track this could have been much worse and maybe even a double fatality...
Peter Li only has himself to blame for that. With that much dust, you reason that a) where did it come from b) a car must have went off c) slow down and move wide to get out of the dust. I swear some so called racing drivers don't have a brain.
@@dhruvnarain3948 I'm 100% right. When I see dust like that, I immediately slow down and move as far away from where the dust is coming from. A racing driver will know the circuit, and they'll know that there's pebbles on the right hand side of that part of the track. He was 2-3 seconds down the road after the initial off, so he had plenty of warning.
@@davepastern As a marshal, I am convinced that the vast majority of racing drivers leave the contents of their skull in the paddock before getting in the car. Oh, and motorcycle riders are even worse for it guess they have to be to do what they do on 2 wheels.
In this crash you see the safety differences between F3 and F4... This rear-end collision looked the same as it happened with Billy Monger and you know what serious injuries he had sustained...
Ich sehe da einen Fahrer mit einem roten Helm der einige Meter in die Luft Katapultiert wird und im ganzen video sich nicht mehr aus seinem Auto rührt. Es geht aber hier ständig um diesen Peter Li der ausgestiegen ist und humpelnd weggelaufen ist?! Kann mich einer mal bitte aufklären
Yep. Fell of a mountain and about 500m down a scree slope - nearly 50 years ago now. All the way down it was a case of. 'Mmm, that looks like it might hurt. Hmm, Ouch! it did. Oh, Bugger here comes another!' Result? Broken ankle, other leg broken, cracked pelvis, 4 ribs gone, 1 forearm bust, 1 upper arm gone and wrist as well and fractured skull (luckily minor). A good friend said it unfortunately didn't cure my insanity - lol. Blacked out a few seconds after ! reached the bottom as I started to feel it big time. Woke up when the Air Ambulance guys were pumping me full of morphine - I could have flown back to the hospital without the chopper! next woke up in Casualty - swearing because they'd knocked me out and I missed my first chopper flight - lol. The amazing folks nailed and screwed and glued me back together and 6 months later I was, reasonably, mobile. 2 years and I was something like fit. But for at least 6 months it hurt more than when things were breaking. Various bits still complain, though I can blame that on being almost 70 now. Btw, I have a lousy head for heights now, so maybe the fractured skull did cure the insanity!
And by the way, the commentator that was about the race being suspended is wrong. When the red flag comes out to stop the race, it's actually red flagged, not suspended. Suspended is actually cancelled or called off. That's the meaning that I pointed out.
@@Bungle2010 Yep. Suspended means it is "left hanging;" it is neither in full operation nor permanently ended. So if it had permanantly ended it would have been the race has ened
Red flags are defined as either "race suspended" or "race stop" depending on what rulebook you're reading they more or less mean the same damn thing in this context at least.
Greg Moore hit a k-rail upside down - with his head. Not the same sort of inversion. He did not go high. I was there. It was obvious he was dead, instantly. Poor track design, wall layout, grading plan, etc. Never underestimate the ability of drivers to crash in ways you can never imagine.
I'm shocked the safety team didn't quickly get the driver to the other side of the barrier! He was in shock and wasn't able to think clearly. Engineers sure know how to design cars today.
