Philippe D'Orleans - Louis XIV's FLAMBOYANT brother 

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@Nica I will do a detailled video on Versailles in September in case you're interested. Thank you for watching and commenting.

@Nica Did you know that the Paris perfume industry was born during the reign of Louis XIV exactly because of the stench inside the Château and the lack of personal hygiene ? Versailles is amazing, I have fallen in love with it but especially with the Petit Trianon. We were lucky that there were almost no visitors there when we were in Versailles, I absolutely loved it !

@@TheKingsofFrance Oui, s’il vous plaît. 🙂

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Funny how life can go sometimes, not even kings are shielded from heartbreak and grief !

The Fronde was brutal.

@@ericbolton9512 It was!

No need to feel sorry for him . It was a long time ago. I'm sure he's over it by now.

Versailles , una magnifica, avvincente serie...

Mine too 💕

He made a great point though 🤷

Love it!!!

you’re welcome, glad you enjoyed the video !

I am not sure if Richelieu had a hand in this... after all, he died when Philippe was only 2 years old. But mind you, despite the fact that Philippe loved his brother and would not go against him, they did often quarrel and Louis also purposely did not give him assignments, as he feared a repeat of the Fronde. Thank you for watching again 😀.

@@johnnotrealname8168 both. But the fear of the repeat of the Fronde definitely was part of it.

@@johnnotrealname8168 definitely. I do not know if you heard how the young Louis was subjected to a march of the people through his bedroom, when they suspected he had left paris and when they demanded to see for themselves if the young king was still there. That resulted in a gruesome night during which the frightened little boy was poked and protted by thousands of people passing his little bed. It was a night that had a great impact on the futher life of Louis. But you seem quite knowledgeable on the subject so I assume you hears of this...

@@johnnotrealname8168 it was pretty traumatic for Louis. Apparently he had nightmares about it until the end of his,life...

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I don't think he was quite that charming to be honest... Thank you for watching Kim !

Alexander Vlahos just brought so much to the character. Hands down my favorite performance on the show. Too bad he wasn't the king!!

@@MsPersephone1469 I liked him too, though the performance by by the actor plating the King was excellent. If he was 1/4 the witty, sweet sort he is portrayed in the series. I would enjoy his company for a bit.

@@TheKingsofFranceHe actually WAS lovely. Flamboyant doesn't mean unpleasant

@@MsPersephone1469Vlahos was actually the very first actor to play Monsieur where he wasn't depicted as a ridiculous or pervert monster. But that was mainly because of homophobia. After "Versailles", there was also an other Monsieur-interpretation that was half decent, the one by Stanly Tucci in the film "A little chaos". Alan Rickman played Louis XIV. That was a really lovely film, btw

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I wouldn't say that he was a good husband he clearly payed attention to his homies more.

Horrible husband to his first wife--he was very jealous of her popularity and her warm relationship with his brother, and allowed his favorite, Lorrain, to treat her with contempt and hostility.

@@elainechubb971Very petty guy!

Thank you so much for watching !

He certainly did ! Thank you for watching. !

He lived a full life, that's for sure ! Thank you for watching !

And bisexual

@@carolinpurayidom4570 that’s not really bisexuality…aristocracy had a duty to procreate just in case the king’s son didn’t survive, there was a spare at hand. The wife of such an important person as the brother of the king, had to ensure her survival by producing heirs (those who couldn’t produce an heir were sent back to the parents in shame). She had to be inventive with the gay (second to inherit the throne) brother of the king.

@@carolinpurayidom4570 These behaviors came about during the fall of France, not in its prime. The people were as poor and hungry as ever. A nice palace and gay sex lead to the French Revolution.

@@carlvonfuckwits2934 I know Louis XIV basically set the precedent for the french revolution with his extravagant spending which was leading france to bankruptcy poor louis xvi and marie antionette were the scapegoats

He certainly wasn't fond of Philippe receiving attention after his battlefield successes. Louis even commissioned a painting commemorating the victory, but instead of Philippe, Louis had himself depicted as general and victor. If I'm not mistaken the painting is currently on view in Versailles.

Wow… thank you for sharing ! Do you still play ?

@@TheKingsofFrance I developed arthritis and repetitive stress injury in my fingers, hands, and wrists- not a surprise, I played a few string instruments for 30 years and worked as a chef specializing in Japanese cuisine for 18 years, which necessitates a great deal of fine knife work. I wish I could still play, but I just don't have the strength in my hands any longer.

@@christinapalafox sorry to hear about your arthritis… i hope it doesnt bother you too much in your daily life.

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Watch the series Versailles!

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That would have been epic!

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Your voice is unmistakable. You give tours of Versailles. You are so knowledgeable and have a great since of history and humor. Thank you again!

You can try "brother to the sun king" by Nancy Nichols Barker and "Monsier, frère de Louis XIV" by Philippe Erlanger... And obviously the letters of Elisabeth Charlotte Of the Palatinate which tells you in depth about her relationship with Monsieur.

@@TheKingsofFrance wonderful !! Thank you!

@@TheKingsofFrance can you share the link of those 2 books ?

@@moonyquetarace4364 Barker is still the only "academic" book about Philip in English, but her "Freudian" approach is totally discredited now, no serious historian would take it seriously today. Erlanger is easy-to-read but quite fictional (he was not a professional historian). You should try the last French biography of Monsieur, published in 2018 by a professional French historian, studying his letters and diplomatic correspondence for an innovative approach. Jonathan Spangler also has just published a book about "the Monsieurs" in French monarchy, with a chapter about Louis XIV's brother.

Much of the history of Versailles comes from the Memoirs of the Duke of Saint Simon, who was a close friend of Philippe's son and at times an advisor of Louis XIV. Unfortunately at the time of the memoirs, Philippe was not living at Versailles and he also died in 1701, well before Louis, so there are some references to him in the Memoirs but not a lot. Liselotte's letters have a lot more to say about her husband Philippe and are worth reading. She is an intelligent, perceptive and entertaining writer. They are to be found in books by various authors in edited form.

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Vive le Roi!!!

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I'm doing a video on Philippe Egalité as he was known at a later date, talking more about his involvement in the death of Louis XVI. Thank you for watching.

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Thank you SO much for watching.

He was quite a character... so was his second wife btw. I’ll do a video on her some time too. Thank you for watching, have a great weekend !

Thanks for sharing !!! I love that anecdote !

​@@TheKingsofFrance My pleasure, I love that period of history. Actually, that chapter of Madame de Montespan's has a few gems contained within the eloquently composed words. No doubt, you are aware that Henrietta was originally intended for Louis. Then along came Oliver Cromwell, which kind of screwed up those plans. After all, back then, a deposed English princess has no influence when compared to an inbred Spanish Hapsburg princess. Eventually, when Charles II was restored, she regained her desirable rank in royal terms. Phillippe (Monsieur) was keen to marry Henrietta and begged the Queen of England for her hand. They say Henrietta was a beauty, blessed with charm, wit and intelligence. She sounds enchanting. She's also described as being dignified, with a good nature. Whereas Monsieur was (I quote) "He is small in stature and in character, being ceaselessly buried about trifles, details, nothings. To his toilet and his mirror, he devotes far more time than a pretty woman; he covers himself with scents, with laces, with diamonds." He sounds like a diva. Phillippe so badly wanted to marry Henrietta for one reason, and he shamelessly tells her. "Because you are a daughter and sister of the Kings of England. In your country women succeed to the throne." In other words, if you are Queen, I am King. Naturally, Henrietta found such a thought horrific because it would mean the death of her beloved brother. Nevertheless, Phillippe sought to persuade her that a sceptre and crown are always a nice thing to have. Her reply is pure class. "Yes," replied Henrietta slyly, "but one must know how to wear them." That, right there, is a 17th century burn if I ever heard one! It didn't stop Phillippe. Soon after, he talked again of his hopes, saying every minute, "If ever I am King. I shall do so; If ever I am King, I shall order this; If ever I am King, etc., etc." Once again, Henrietta's words show class, wit and intelligence. It was this comment from Henrietta that led to Phillippe's desire to have higher heels. "Let us hope, my good friend," replied the Princess, "that you won't be King of England, where your gewgaws (FABULOUS word!) would make people call out after you; nor yet in France, where they would think you too little, after the King." The very next day, the bootmaker was summoned. Forgive me for going on. As you can see, I have a passion for history. I adore Louis XIV and the history of Versailles. His legacy went beyond a normal monarch and influenced the arts, music, fashion and so much more, up until this day. He defined style, taste and elegance. But, it's more than that. He saw how they could influence all of society, effectively changing and improving it, simply by being there. Anyway, I love the channel! Thank you!

Thank you for sharing. Extremely interesting to read. I think my channel must not be able to offer you any new information... you probably heard it all !

You GO, Louis!

The "Memoirs" of Mme de Montespan are funny, but we should well take in mind that this is a fake text by the abbot Lafont d'Aussonne, a prolific author of fake memories from 19th century. The text you can find online is an english translation of it. So, nothing to do with the real Mme de Montespan, this is a typical fake ressembling quotes and extraits from ancient texts, "restyling" them for a modern audience. Most anecdotes in these "Memoirs" are from Saint Simon, and many just made up by the author himself. No text by Mme de Montespan exists but some rare letters.

He was ? I had no idea. Are you a Queen fan then ?

@@TheKingsofFrance yes September 5th was also Freddie’s birthday. Each year on that day they have Freddie for a day parties (that was before CoV 19 )

Imagine: two Virgo princes, one always on a picky-selfish-hard ass tear , the other always on a softer-selfish tear.

Lol they'd make quite the pair.

@@TheKingsofFrance they were oddly similar in their flamboyance and both rich enough to buy anything they wanted. They both held court and liked to control others and neither ever liked to be alone. The sun shone bright in them both! I guess that was where I was going with that realization they shared Sept 5 BD. 😉🤷🏼‍♀️

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@@TheKingsofFrance you're welcome! I love the history of the French court; particularly with Louis XIV

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@@artesotericlimited8131 Very cool, I'll check it out ! Thank you for sharing !

Thank you so much Eric !

You are welcome. I'm a big Dumas fan. Hearing the history behind intrigues is so cool!

@@ericbolton9512 in february i’m airing a video on the man in the iron mask..

I think I heart you lol. In all seriousness, some of the best historical content out here in the nether space, that is the interwebs!

Still to this day, no one knows who the prisoner in the mask was. Talk about intrigue.

De rien 😄. Thank you for watching ! Have a great day !

I am not really into Astrology, Kaleah. Is it a known fact that those two signs clash ?

Yes the Virgo works hard cares about accomplishment of goals,the Libra the charming free spirit

Sept. 21st is a Virgo date. They were both Virgos.

Hi Richard, I got this information out of the book 'De Zonnekoning' by author Johan Opdebeeck. It is a Flemish book that takes an in depth look at the life of the Sun king. Attached a link to the book but I don't think it has been translated into English I'm afraid. www.bol.com/nl/nl/p/de-zonnekoning/9200000088920775/?referrer=socialshare_pdp_www

@@TheKingsofFrance thank you very much for your reply ;-)

I'm working on a list of books as we speak, I hope to finish it by the end of this month in order for people to put them on their Christmas wish lists ...

@@TheKingsofFrance looking forward to it.

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I made a typing error there. Apologies.

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Oui. J'aime l'histoire de La France, meme si je suis Americain. J'adore l'histoire de la monde.

Another selfish idiot who wants all of the language in anglosajón All of the languages are correct to express the situation

The Series is not perfect, but I credit it greatly to put the court of Louis XIV in the limelight !

@@TheKingsofFrance Yes !! That’s waht I thought !

Glad you enjoy my videos. I'd suggest you to check the writings of either La Palatine, or of Saint-Simon to find out about Louis shortly after Monsieur's death...

I thought King passed away at least 10 years before the Duke? The Duke became acted King until the late King’s son became of age?

@@LanPham-tc7ch oh that was this guys son also named Philippe who ruled as regnant under Louis XV, Louis XIVs great-grandson.

@@nighthawk6190, yes, I reread about the Duke and realized I had the father and son confused. Thank you for responding!

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By all means go. It’s full of music, and really good food. Plus, has plenty of eccentric, outrageous Southerners.

@@kathyg8510 sounds like my kind of place !

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Yes, his video is scheduled for February 19.

@@TheKingsofFrance ok thanks

Actually, I am considering starting up an Instagram and tic toc channel in order to promote my channel, but I never really look at Instagram at the moment... You probably noticed due to there being literally no activity there. I'll go check it out for sure though. I heard the story of Vatel, and will consider making a video, if I can find some good imagery to go along !

@@TheKingsofFrance I've written you at your Instagram with lots of details. You only have 2 followers, one of those is moi. I'd love to actually be in touch with you as I'm writing detailed historical papers on the period of Louis XIV and Monsieur.

@@PoserAddictsLLC yes not a very lively page just yet, but it’ll come. I’ll check out your message soon, but am currently working on something for my actual job which has to take priority

It was one of my first videos. If you watch my latest, you’ll see I’ve worked to improve the quality of my videos. Ty for watching.

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Oh then it is almost your birthday ! Happy birthday in advance !!!!

He definitely was !

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Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts with us !

Despite her Spanish birth, she was referred to as Anne of Austria because the rulers of Spain belonged to the senior branch of the House of Austria, known later as the House of Habsburg, a designation relatively uncommon before the 19th century.

@@TheKingsofFrance so then just to be clear then marie & Louie ARE related then?(she she WAS a hapsburg)(& Louie would have the blood line in him at the time)

@@redadmiralofvalyria867 Louis XVI and Marie-Antoinette were related through Anne of Austria, mother of Philippe d'Orléans, father of Élisabeth-Charlotte d'Orléans, mother of François III de Lorraine, father of Marie-Antoinette. The marriage of Anne of Austria and Louis XIII was meant to bring peace between France and Spain, not between France and Austria. At this time, Spain was the most powerful European state, but on the decline.

Indeed. History would've looked quite different !

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He was also happier than his brother

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You're mistaken sugar. I think you meant Louis the 13th not Louis the 18th. As for the dark eyes blame his mother, Marie de Medici.

@@ChibiProwl Of course I meant King Louis the 13th. Marie de Medici was a wicked witch. 👑💍🇫🇷🇮🇹

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I'm doing a Halloween special on the Desecration of the Royal tombs (thought it to fit the 'season' so to speak). Thank you for watching and commenting.

Jacobins are some of the heroes of the modern age. They rooted an ancient royal order and changed not only France, but all of Europe and hence, the world.

@@blackalien6873 Not heroic.

Louis was not fond of Philippe II, due do his promiscuity. When Louis’ heirs died, Philippe was made regent but Louis was only willing to give him limited power as he did not trust him. So I think it is fair to say there wasn’t much love there…

@@TheKingsofFrance yet uncle Louis was screwing around on Marie Therese all the time. So I have to think his promiscuity was more or less his example . He probably didn’t see it though. He was just finding fault with his nephew for things he always did

Kings are always allowed things their subjects are not of course…

@@TheKingsofFrance true . I can’t help think Louis was an influence in his nephews own infidelities. He probably thought “ oh. Well, my uncle Louis cheats on my aunt all the time so I guess it’s ok”

In general it was more accepted for men to have mistresses, but the promiscuity of Philippe is said to have been quite high… he was a rather freethinking individual (he probably was an atheist) which didnt add to his popularity with the King…

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You are right : if you look at the portraits of the two brothers, Louis XIV really took after his mother Anne, whereas Philippe after his father. And it was bad luck, because Louis XIII was not that handsome lol

Yes, you are correct.

Thank you so much for watching and commenting Adrienne !

@@TheKingsofFrance You're welcome & in going over notes I believe it was Francoise Marie & a son of Phillipe.

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I'm doing a short video on her in a few weeks. Thank you for watching !

I'm wondering if I should do more videos on the spanish royal house (the bourbon branch at least), as they are indeed interwoven with the french Bourbon dynasty. Something I must consider ...

Charles, later Emperor Charles VI, was younger surviving son of Leopold I, himself son of Maria Anna, younger daughter of Philip III. Her elder sister was Anne of Austria, queen of France. Maria Teresa/Marie Therese, queen of France, was indeed eldest surviving daughter of Philip IV of Spain by his first wife Elisabeth of France, daughter of Henry IV of France. She was married to her double first cousin Louis XIV of France. Only one son, her eldest, survived but he had three sons. The second son became Philip V of Spain. The eldest was father of Louis XV of France. Marie Therese had two younger siblings - a half-sister Margaret Theresa who married her maternal uncle Leopold I was his first wife. And a half-brother Charles II of Spain. The French queen was elder half sister to the Holy Roman empress. Margaret Theresa's grandson the Electoral Prince of Bavaria eas heir to Spain 1692-1698 but he died young. Charles II of Spain chose his elder half-sister's grandson Philip, Duke of Anjou, as the heir to Spain and other lands in 1700. The Spanish Habsburgs died out because pf exvesdive inbreeding and a refusal to let younger sons marry. There were many talented and healthy younger sons but few were alloweed to marry. Philip IV of Spain did not allow either of his younger brothers to marry. They both died by 1640. In France, the French kings occasionally married cousins from cadet (junior) branches and married their daughters and sisters into those same branches. Thus, fir Henry V of France, his father was from a junior branch but next in line after that of Francis I. But his maternal grandmother Marguerite of Angouleme was sister of King Francis. Henry V first married his second cousin Marguerite of France, la reine Margot in 1571, but had no children with her.

I'll put her on the list ! Thank you for watching and your suggestion

Yes, because he's extra !

There’s a video on that subject on the channel

@@TheKingsofFrance Thank you for your responsiveness. Can you send me the link to said video, please?

Thank you for sharing your opinion on philippe. And welcome to the channel, much more to see on the subject here !

@@TheKingsofFrance Thank you for welcoming me!!!

I'm doing a video on Mazarin that will air in February, if you're interested in him a bit more...

Always! Got anything on Richelieu? Lol! History crack... I'm addicted 🤣

@@ericbolton9512 yes… his video will air in the first quarter of 2022. So will a video on Fleury !

Yay!

If I may ask. Have you read, or listened to the Red Sphinx or the Last Cavalier, by Alexandre Dumas? These are two of my personal favorites, along with le Vicomte de Bragelonne. Pure brilliance. Longue vie à la France! 😊

Louis XIV regretted the argument with Philippe for the rest of his life and mourned his loss deeply ! Thank you for watching and commenting Chris !

@@TheKingsofFrance Phillipe didn't die from a heart attack. He died from a cerebral aneurysm

@@Juicexlx I know ! video states he died due to a stroke…

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Thank you so much for watching this video too !

@@TheKingsofFrance well after all this is one of my favorite RU-vid channels ever

@@TheKingsofFrance I think Anne of Austria cultivated Monseiur's faminen side and made sure he was close to Louie because she wanted to avoid Monseiur turning into a second Gaston

@@TheKingsofFrance actually sorry but I made a mistake Maria Anna (Marianna) was not LGBTQ I messed up Isabella of Parma 's lover was actually Maria Christina not Maria Anna Maria Christina was allso the most beautiful out of all her sisters and a favorite child of Empress Maria Teresa (still Maria Anna was the favorite of her father) and also the people at court called Maria Christina and Isabella Orpheus and Eurydice still Maria Christina had one daughter ho died young named Maria Christina Teresa

i’m sorry, that is not available on my channel. thank you for watching.

The most famous was Philippe de Lorraine, known as chevalier de Lorraine.

If you mean videos about Louis XVIII and Charles X, yes. If you mean an actual restoration: I don't think so. Thank you for watching !

There are two present day claimants to the Bourbon throne of France: the current Duc d'Orleans, who is a descendant of the subject of this video; and a (distant) member of the Spanish Bourbons, whose family still rule Spain today. However, neither claimant has a chance in hell, as the French are dead set against any form of monarchy.

NON!

@@ericspencer8093 Hello Eric ! You are right to say that the Spanish member of the family is distant and yet, according to the French dynastic rules, Louis d'Anjou is the direct heir to Louis XIV, and head of the House of Bourbon. But you are right again when you say that he has no chance to be king one day 🙂 And it is perfect as it is, not only because France does not need a king, but because Louis d'Anjou is a far right activist, linked to the most extremist part of the catholic church. I think France really does not need this 🙂 Or deserves this… lol

I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the video. Thank you for your comment nonetheless.

Historians believe he was homosexual. Thank you for watching and commenting.

The word. Gay means Happy or Cheerful, not queer or homosexual

Bisexual, he had mistresses too.