Pioneer PAL Belt vs. SBD Belt - Best Lever Powerlifting Belt??

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The Pioneer PAL Belt and SBD Belt are the best adjustable lever belts on the market. Which is the best though?
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The SBD Belt is the stalwart. They offered the first adjustable lever belt and it was a tremendous evolution in strength support. Pioneer, a maker of fantastic belts decided to release their own version and call it the Pioneer PAL Belt.
Today I compare the two and share which is the best lever belt for powerlifting.
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@dwaynecunningham2164 Год назад

Great video. I met a girl who told me she had an SBD. I told her I was really into weightlifting too. Turns out she meant STD. Now I'm going to a clinic.

@zackschmidt 3 месяца назад

lmao

@smjewett 3 года назад

Coop, there is a very slight high pitched buzzing as you talk. It sounds like it's sourcing from the video itself and not my side, just fyi.

@GarageGymReviews 3 года назад

Yes, I notice it as well. Something happened in processing. Extremely annoying. It won't happen again.

@luckynyaa2826 3 года назад

I thought it was secret morze code messgae there

@ketoketoketo 3 года назад

@@luckynyaa2826 says coop is a god Morse code

@KenanTurkiye 3 года назад

That buzzing sound, which I hear as well, is the residual standing wave/echo left over from deadlifting 1500 lbs and dropping them, he has to give at least 1 day rest between deadlifting and making a video, otherwise the room will have this standing wave echo, getting caught in the recording. Beast!

@fly1ngpapaya 3 года назад

@@GarageGymReviews I kind of hope it does so you quietly rage 🤣 Anyway always solid with the reviews

@wyattd1193 3 года назад

Also, if you've never tried a Pioneer belt, that half inch increment adjustment is incredibly useful. Being able to adjust up or down by .5" instead of 1" jumps is a huge feature for me personally.

@PadyEos 3 года назад

It really does make it feel like the belt is adjusting to you an no the other way around. It's as close to a level belt as possible.

@StretchyDeath 3 года назад

I was surprised he didn't highlight the difference in adjustment fidelity. It's so nice to choose exactly how tight you want it. Sometimes with the SBD, I feel like one setting is too tight, and the very next setting is a little loose. Every half-inch matters.

@wyattd1193 3 года назад

@@StretchyDeath it definitely makes me feel more confident when I go for 1rms

@datglasstho 3 года назад

Absolutely. It's fantastic for those of us that start in frigid garage gyms in the winter with a few layers and then remove a layer or two when the garage warms up a bit with having small increments to match on the belt.

@yokohamaborn 3 года назад

@@datglasstho lol, this is exactly my situation here in Minnesota with this belt. It's been super useful for my garage gym.

@zachkieri1185 3 года назад

It’s amazing that none of that 100lbs of weight fluctuation never shows up in Coops face; genetics

@Ricky-drip-go-woo 3 года назад

It's all that chicken rice and broccoli #moreplatesmoredates

@NAubc 2 года назад

he was kidding.

@gymreviewer 2 года назад

😂🙌🏼

@crim7ind 2 года назад

I’m amazed it never shows on the scales either lol

@kevinwheeler5595 Год назад

He carriea 450lbs very well

@timk8258 3 года назад

1/2” adjustments are a big advantage for the pioneer that you didn’t acknowledge. Most people won’t ever need more than two inches of adjustment range unless they lose or gain a significant amount of weight, so moving the lever assembly on the pioneer will be necessary only infrequently. Meanwhile having finer 1/2” adjustments is great between different lifts, days where you’re lifting on full vs empty stomach, different clothing, or just normal minor weight fluctuations.

@LazarusStirs 3 года назад

Exactly. That's why it's no contest. Pioneer PAL,for the win

@Ninjadude87534 2 года назад

Link to buy pioneer belt?

@ZachGatesHere 2 года назад

I bought one of their buckle belts for that very reason. Now I'm eyeballing this...

@Ricky-drip-go-woo 3 года назад

I love how you manage to include uprights and jcups in your videos to display what you're reviewing, it's a great little detail that I love

@samharris9559 2 года назад

I’ve been using the Pioneer belt for over a year almost every day. Absolutely love it, super sturdy, fits well and surprisingly comfortable after break in. A couple minor issues: the screws tend to back out slowly over a couple months (I keep a Swiss army knife in my bag to tighten them), there is a little wobble in the lever arm now (doesn’t effect performance), and because it’s unfinished leather I put leather conditioner on it every month or so to keep it from weakening/drying. If you’re thinking about buying one, it’s definitely worth the money and it won’t disappoint, but these are a few things to keep in mind.

@PortableHayzuse 3 года назад

Awesome review, I definitely dig the comparison/review format. I own the pioneer PAL and at the time I bought it purely for the value and obviously for the genius behind it, but I always wondered if I missed out skipping on the SBD adjustable. I love my PAL and my Pioneer belt but it is cool to know how close a contender the SBD is and how they paved the way for the adjustable option on a lever belt.

@kkent2198 3 года назад

Love to see strongman equipment comparisons. Love to see the best gym equipment reviewer compare log bars and other strongman equipment.

@scarycloud 3 года назад

The pioneer PAL also adjusts at 1/2" increments over a total of 2" before it needs to be re-screwed in. The SBD adjusts at full 1" increments.

@kozmo7 3 года назад

COOP, I’m a man of details and analysis when it comes to spending my hard earned dollar so I really appreciate the in-depth format of these videos in addition to your more general overlooks. Love what ya doing dude!

@mplussant 3 года назад

...you’re getting really good at this...appreciate the perspective...thx...

@Paulmight1 3 года назад

I literally clicked on this only for PIONEER they have never failed me I own 3

@Bloder20 3 года назад

Have 2 myself love them

@PadyEos 3 года назад

Have a Pioneer cut. Love it. Have to say they know their leather.

@toysfan9072 3 года назад

And there’s the difference, you’ll only ever need the one sbd belt, forever.

@Paulmight1 3 года назад

@@toysfan9072 I have the 3 because I bought 3 different designs of my own choice they have not failed me

@Paulmight1 3 года назад

@@toysfan9072 as is cosmetics

@prescottosegie 3 года назад

Very informative coop I appreciate the information keep up the good work dude💪💯

@TonyDrecaps Год назад

Good honest review. Thank you!

@StrickenBiged 3 года назад

Love my SBD. It's like bracing my core against a ring of steel. Never felt support like it, its amazing.

@jonysun 3 года назад

Who else here has gotten to the point of liking the video before it even starts lol? Great stuff as always Coop!

@samsetiaboedhi4202 3 года назад

Another great review! Keep it up!

@928guy 3 года назад

Coop never disappoints.. great review 👍

@Eee00123 3 года назад

Great review Coop!

@danguilfoyle1736 Год назад

Super helpful! Thank you!

@rhyseinlanzer4617 3 года назад

Primary win for the Pioneer over the SBD for me, is the half inch adjustments. Tshirt > Hoodie > Soft Belt, I don't want 1 inch increments there, and at most I am adding 2in total which the Pioneer perfectly supports, as opposed to every notch on the SBD being 1 inch.

@WoodysGamertag 3 года назад

FYI, Pioneer says they only suggest pairing their adjustable buckle with their 13mm belt. That will likely have an impact on the break in and comfort category of your review.

@FroYo.... 3 года назад

Damn never thought I’d see woody on here😂

@dojanjanjan 3 года назад

I've got the PAL with a 3 Inch belt / 10mm. It's perfect

@flippino35 3 года назад

i tried it on a 13mm strenghtshop belt and it was not stiff enough. the lever would pop open

@mskerr187 3 года назад

Interesting. I have it on a 10mm. I bought them together and reached out to them before I bought, and they said it'd be a great choice. No problems thus far.

@scottdodds 3 года назад

I have 2 pals. One on my 13mm pioneer and one on my 10mm cerberus. Works great on both

@thestoryofpattyb7202 3 года назад

Those review are amazing

@snorlaxcom 2 года назад

PAL V2 just dropped. Has a foot like the original Inzer lever, so it doesn't bend the leather as you clasp it shut. There is also a riveted hinge pin to prevent it from coming loose as it did in some defective batches.

@Bearded360 3 года назад

Great comparison with the marks and categories.

@lideajuarez9694 Год назад

Great review... 👍

@tonyc9683 2 года назад

Thank you! Just placed my order with Pioneer. I really wanted to get the SBD belt, I just wasnt willing to shell out the coin... also thankfully they are out of stock, or i may have lol. I needed another option that was comparable in quality at a better price point and this video really helped me make up my mind.

@jonwarren9979 3 года назад

Like the comparison breakdown

@pawadventures5544 3 года назад

Good video review. 👍🏻

@basedabdu8653 3 года назад

"350 to 450" lmaoooo I had to listen to that twice

@sm-qw9mj 3 года назад

Me too :D

@n.lambert1305 3 года назад

Same lmao

@randumbmemes9308 3 года назад

Haha🤣

@ThatboyWrong 3 года назад

I just got my custom pioneer belt in. Amazing quality and top notch craftsmanship. Well worth the money and the wait

@clownpocket 3 года назад

You forgot something very important: The Pioneer belt can be adjusted in 1/2 inch increments, the SBD only in 1 inch increments. Sometimes on a 1 inch increment belt one size is just too tight, the other is just too loose. Big win on the Pioneer for that, with 1/2 inch increments it fits just right every time.

@Fran07Chile 3 года назад

The reason I went with pioneer is because I already had an Inzer belt for years. It was still in great shape, so I just needed to get the new lever and replace it with the old one. It works wonders, now I can adjust based on how bloated I feel or if I have a hoodie on or off when I’m working out.

@THExJMC 2 года назад

The SBD looks so premium and clean, but if I were ever going to upgrade my belt I'd probably go with the pioneer for the functionality. Like many others have said, you rarely want such a wide range of adjustability within the same time period. For reference on my Inzer prong belt I never need to adjust more than one space over the course of a workout. Maybe if I'm feeling particularly lean I will go from warm up with sweater on to serious with sweater off and go over 2 holes. With that being said, the Pioneer adjustment is enough for that. I always find that one hole over is sometimes too tight or too loose by just a bit. Having more fine adjustments is a huge pro. Another thing, that doesn't apply to me because I have a prong, but you can buy just the lever mechanism for a pioneer belt and this makes it significantly cheaper for others who are already using a lever belt. In addition, in this case there is no break in period or anything and it is much cheaper.

@evancook6155 3 года назад

I've had an Inzer PR belt for about a decade, and the strap is starting to wear down. I would say it's been a great belt, but the durability of these two looks a lot better than the ratchet system.

@YingGodson 3 года назад

Loving my SBD belt now. But yes breaking in is not easy, bruised my ribs, my hip in the beginning. Now it’s my favorite!

@Anthony0855 2 года назад

How do u know what size to get between 4inch and 3 inch belt

@BasementBrandon 3 года назад

Pioneer supports the basement. The basement supports Pioneer.

@rjjoat6609 3 года назад

TIL the structural integrity of Brandon’s basement is solely dependent on Pioneer belts. Imagine what they can do for your lumbar spine

@teaguekuhn 3 года назад

this is the way

@hitleractually8180 3 года назад

@@teaguekuhn this is the whey

@rickygonzalez8206 3 года назад

So what belt do I get y’all confusing me

@BartTrojanowski 3 года назад

Love the knurl marks as a ranking system. Very clever. :-)

@Aaronism 3 года назад

I bought the Pioneer PAL and adjusted my VULCAN roller buckle belt and have been using it for a couple of weeks. I used to be a leatherworker but anyone could do it, I actually recently sold my leatherworking tools so I used a utility blade and a drill. Took my 80 dollar vulcan cut off a piece, drilled some holes, BAM, adjustable lever belt.

@iamthemobey 3 года назад

I've had an sbd belt for about 4 yeahs and I love it. I personally love how tough it is and the feeling of being completely locked in before a big set. Since getting one almost all of my powerlifting mates have gotten one.

@iamthemobey 3 года назад

Also I've fluctuated in weight by over 20kg and also still fitted. So no getting a bigger or smaller one.

@iamthemobey 2 года назад

@Logan M. Elliott I recommend large. I highly doubt you’ll be to big for it right now. My friend has an XL and I’m 95 kg right now down from 115 kg at my heaviest and I don’t think his would fit me right now but my large still does. I think a large would be perfect for you especially once you’ve lost a little weight. Let me know once you’ve got one and how you get on with it mate.

@iamthemobey 2 года назад

@Logan M. Elliott I’m also 6ft 4 for reference. 193cm.

@d4-6n 3 года назад

Friend had the SBD for a week and within that time frame a "teeth" that goes into the hole broke off after dropping it to the floor (stall mats). Looked like the metal was casted; I expected it to be milled for that price point (not a metal worker, I could be wrong). It took him so time to get in contact with SBD Netherlands but he got it replaced eventually.

@jrfty1 3 года назад

I have the PAL with 0.5inch increments vs. SBD 1inch increments. So much more functionality to have 0.5inch increments! I am from the UK and shipped the PAL from US. I have put the PAL on a 13mm rogue lever belt (also made by Pioneer)

@official_StefanoRomanGunness 3 года назад

Great video

@robkillian7758 3 года назад

I like the knurl mark comparison!

@alfredkaiser6908 3 года назад

video has some sound issues with headphones overmodulation i think

@Tiger2000Lion2005 3 года назад

Have the SBD its been awesome! The build quality is fantastic

@furatal2541 3 года назад

Hey Coop i like your J hook display stand. 👍creative

@zachscrazyblogs 3 года назад

I was happy to see the neuromark ranking system back!

@victorjimenez7213 3 года назад

I brought my PAL and put it on my Inzer. It feels amazing squatting and deadlift with my sweater on!

@franciscomiranda6882 2 года назад

Did you have to do anything with the Inzer holes? Like did you have to make the holes bigger so the PAL can fit?

@victorjimenez7213 2 года назад

@@franciscomiranda6882 no. I think since I used my inzer a lot my pal screws where too small to reach the new pal attachment. I ended up fixing this issues by using one of my own screws then 3 of the 4 that came with the pal stuff. I think it’s impossible to explain. There’s a video on my channel where I sorta describe what I did and show My belt off with the screws

@franciscomiranda6882 2 года назад

@@victorjimenez7213 just saw your video, thanks! I’m wondering if it’s because your belt is 13mm and so the thickness of the belt was the problem. Mine is 10mm. Worse case scenario, I’ll head to Home Depot and get longer screws. Thanks, man!

@Falhurk 2 года назад

I picked up the Pioneer PAL belt because of this review.

@CasperWK 3 года назад

Very worth noting that pioneer belts and the PAL system are not IPF competition apporoved

@bmstylee 3 года назад

Yes but A7 has Pioneer make their belts. last time I looked A7 was IPF approved. The PAL not so much.

@Paulmight1 3 года назад

They are still waiting on approval but they have submitted

@Gratefully- 2 года назад

@@bmstylee so that’s basically a pal belt but ipf approved?

@Applefanatic1000 3 года назад

You should review all of the high end power bars against each other. Eleiko, Kabuki, Rogue, etc.

@quiet2361 2 года назад

I don't know if only I hear it but there's a slight high pitched noise in this video and maybe it's the mic so you might wanna check that. Thanks for the good review it really helped and have a good day🤝💯

@avargas000 3 года назад

Just got a pioneer belt and I love it. Love flicking the lever right after a heavy lift.

@John-dk3wj 2 года назад

Now get a SBD belt

@stevesorensen9648 3 года назад

Which one of these belts has the best "knurling"on the buckle? That was never mentioned in the review.

@zackschmidt 3 месяца назад

Great video, going to buy a pioneer belt right now

@janisinisalo1906 3 года назад

Does with anybody else sound very annoying noise exact same time during the talk or is it just my phone? The noise doesn't appear in other videos (at least so far)

@shifter8207 3 года назад

Bad feedback , ive got it too

@janisinisalo1906 3 года назад

@@shifter8207 so most likely the problem is in the video

@GregsWorkshopOregon 3 года назад

Same here

@BeGrizzlyStrong 3 года назад

Video. He apologized to another commenter.

@marcocastagnetti7086 3 года назад

Hi Coop, have you ever done a review on weight training gloves.?

@SurfinBird0953 3 года назад

Coop, video on the best singlet for powerlifting in the future ??

@johnr9907 2 месяца назад

Both are great belts! I love my 13mm pioneer and my SBD

@johnnysandoval5238 3 года назад

Hey Coop, any thoughts on the Inzer Forever Lever Belts?

@bentom5516 3 года назад

Really wish I hadn't read the comments about the beeping noise before watching the video, now it's all I can focus on 😭😂 still loved the video tho

@zachkieri1185 3 года назад

Keep the format: too much equipment coming out seems like almost the same thing (or exactly the same thing) that someone else is making

@davidliew2386 3 года назад

Great vid!! Which pioneer belt is that exactly?? I like the look a lot...thanks!!

@knifesharpeningnorway Год назад

How is the sbd belt now after some time? Still happy with the quality? Any de laming of the leather or suede layer? Any crinckles or cracks in the leather? Any buckle problems?

@tonytrofe7137 2 года назад

@Garage Gym Reviews Is the belt in the video the stock 10MM PAL one offered on the site?

@kadenbaugh8934 2 года назад

I just got my black out pioneer pal belt in and i can say its a very good and well built belt. Ive been competing in powerlifting for 4 years and i back this belt

@brandoncarter4918 3 года назад

Can we see a Dream rack 2? Love the channel.

@martinrios-ayala6152 3 года назад

“Big, bad and thicc”, that apology made me laugh

@48Boxer 3 года назад

Yep, he's going to pay for that one

@Ricky-drip-go-woo 3 года назад

😅 hes gona go sleep in his home gym shed for a little while.

@SoyLaBonBon 3 года назад

OMG, I laughed so hard!

@javb115 3 года назад

These are then moments set u apart coop 😂😂

@velliott8071 3 года назад

Was gold 🤣

@ShayanGivehchian 3 года назад

Do a review on the Inzer as well

@MohammadDakkak 3 года назад

I reaaaaally wanna try a Pioneer belt 🙌🏻

@boomersooner3187 7 месяцев назад

I love the pioneer bc of the half inch adjustment and the lower price, the half inch adjustment is so nice bc when you’re a little bloated or cutting you don’t need a screwdriver to change it you can just drop it a notch or two

@josueparedes6314 Год назад

Hello. Great video. Thanks! I have a question: Is Pioneer Belt IPF approved? In the IPF 2023 official list I see the PAL system approved, in A7 and Fortex Brands, but not in Pioneer Brand.

@MrScalesie 3 года назад

Thanks for doing this comparison/review coop . It's great to see them side by side .I was looking forward to you doing a review on the PAL since your Instagram post. I've wanted a PAL since I first saw it months ago just waiting for the stock belts to offered with just the PAL and not have to buy the regular lever with it .I'm in Ireland and there's not going to be much difference in price between the 2 belts but b4 the PAL was launched I was between the SBD and the Poineer cut prong belt the half inch increments really appeals to me. I've used the SBD belt before and it's a great belt..But I really want that stock belt you've got there it's the sh1t . If youd like to donate it to me I'll gladly pay the shipping 😁😁😁

@Oyashio202 2 года назад

You sold me sir. Pioneer it is. Hopefully I can write w/e federation PRO on it in the future.

@Schyluer Год назад

just found this thanks i know which belt im getting

@HeCoversMe 3 года назад

But all you have to do is move the lever to different holes. Once you’re close with that position the lever latching side should be fine on Pioneer. How many inches of adjustment are we talking on each belt?

@dennismicallef9350 3 года назад

I don't fluctuate between 350 & 450 like Coop, but if I workout after lunch or dinner, I use a the next hole up compared to working out on an empty stomach early in the am. I'd like to get a Pioneer lever belt, but my Inzer Forever single prong will never die.

@MikeNoyes 3 года назад

Coop, how do these new lever belts compare with an old DiMarco Forever Lever belt (Pat. No. 4541152 filed Dec 5, 1983) that I purchased from EliteFTS?

@Oscar-gl2ys 3 года назад

Inzer would seem to be comparable to these too. I've had mine for about 3-4 years now.

@pedrovidal4492 3 года назад

Coop the one at the video was the 10mm pioneer stock lever belt?

@tylerehrig6722 Год назад

So you adjust the Pioneer tension by moving the lever side between the holes? The ladder side stays put the whole time?

@dannymarcial9139 3 года назад

Another vote here for the audio coop 😂

@KickerHandle 3 года назад

I am looking for my first belt, how do I know if I should get a 3" or 4"?

@TongPSuh 3 года назад

Coop when you gonna do a review of Havak's Adjustable Triads?

@quatie 3 года назад

I've had the SBD a couple of weeks now, worth the money. My Ribs Though!!

@getstrongby4038 3 года назад

Is it at the back? Lower ribs? I was getting some issues with that but not any more 👍🏾

@tedp9945 3 года назад

With shipping it was 200 to get a pioneer belt with pal 13mmx4 inch xxl. Will be here Friday. Ordered it on Jan 10th. They said they were waiting on leather.

@lux156 3 года назад

So im at the website but I cant seen to figure out wich one exactly is the one being showed in the video . Although the all black one cought my eye as well. Can someone please tell me which one it is exactly ? Thanks

@artsim5977 3 года назад

Anyone have any suggestions on other belt options that the pioneer lever would fit on? Preferably cheap options. The website shows the pioneer belt is OOS but it several levers are available.

@oradinum Год назад

If you're looking for a high level of adjustability, easy to use, a stable and smooth mechanism then definitely SBD Belt!

@idek3867 Год назад

The fact that I watched the entire vid even with the annoying beeping sound says enough. Great video sir!

@Lowtan Год назад

Didn't hear it until reading this. Still don't hear it super well.

@UrbanLegend2k11 3 года назад

I love my Inzer Forever belt, but man that lever from Pioneer is sexy.

@Fran07Chile 3 года назад

Just get the lever, that’s what I did. I have my inzer belt for years and loved it, but just replaced the lever on it.

@UrbanLegend2k11 3 года назад

@@Fran07Chile oh man I did this about a month ago, the P.A.L. is a game changer for sure!!

@Xplora213 3 года назад

I need the micro adjustments. Dropped 20 pounds. Very hard to brace now. SBD is the obvious choice for strongmen using under belts, so much variation required but mere mortals can just get away with 2” of adjustments.

@joecoronado2713 3 года назад

Pioneer is amazing. I own a stock belt with a PAL. But if you compete in IPF/USAPL might want to go SBD for adjustable lever. If not do A7 which are made by pioneer.

@csmboots9281 3 года назад

I know for this is a beltz and you've done a review on benches but what's your take on this flybird bench that's #1 on Amazon. I'm iffy about it but apparently it's weight is 500+

@korhonen4221 Год назад

Can you put the pioneer locking system on a titan ipf approved lever belt and use it in a ipf meet? Been searching through the internet and could not find anything.

@alivideo403 3 года назад

Coop is being clobbered with SPD belt by his wife, after his comment about "Big Bad W...." 😅

@nKrandom 3 года назад

Pioneer all the way! 👌🏻 I got rid of my SBD to get a Pioneer...

@AdultingShouldntSuck 3 года назад

My pioneer lever belt is absolutely AMAZING. I’ll never buy a belt from a different company after owning such a high quality belt made here in America by a small business.