I know little about airplanes although aviation fascinates me. But in truth I probably watch this channel because I think the narrator has one of the most interesting voices I’ve heard. It’s different and endlessly engaging. This guy could make a mint selling almost anything because he’s so believable.
We just did a full Garmin panel with LED lights and O2 in an Arrow III. I really like these longer videos. Don't be scared of letting them be this long, nothing but nonstop nerdy goodness!
As someone who has really only ever flew Cessnas, I was always kind of embarrassed that I couldn't recognize different Cherokees models. Now I don't feel so bad.
I never even flew a Cherokee until I got the job I'm at now. They still confuse me trying to keep them all seprated lol. I know what my Cherokee is. That's about it.
Same. I am a Cessna guy all the way. I can tell all the different 172's just by looking at them. I currently fly a 76 172M. The piper liniage has always baffled me.
I've owned a few various model Cherokees, about 1000 of my current 1500 hours are in various PA28/32 models, and currently I own/fly a PA28R Arrow I. To me, one of the best things about any Cherokee, is once you've flown one, you can pretty much fly them all. There are some handling differences, but the differences are so minor they are not worth worrying about...even the hershey bar vs taper is a nothing-burger. The only time I noticed a difference between the standard vs t-tail was in landing flair, and that too wasn't a big deal. Learn in a PA28-140, and a PA28-180 is just the same except for a little more power, and PA28R is the exact same when the gear are down, and the PA32 is the same just needing more rudder on takeoff.
Agreed...I've owned a 180 and I've bounced back and forth between five or six different models in rental fleets, and I've never really felt much of a difference. I haven't tried any T-tailed versions though, and given what was said about the elevator authority, I'll have to admit that it has me a bit curious about the feel of that.
@@seawlf777 I haven't flown a T-tail Cherokee, but I have flown a Seminole which is basically just a twin-engine Archer. With the T-tail and two engines, it is noticeably more pitch-heavy than a Cherokee, especially during takeoff and landing.
I absolutely loved this video! I definitely hit the light, and subscribe to the channel. It was specifically helpful to me since I am currently trying to buy a piper Cherokee to 35. It was nice to see all the delineations between the Hershey bar wing, and the tapered wing.this is the video that every piper enthusiast should watch. Nicely done!
Wow, what a video. Like being in flight training and just having heaps of info thrown at you. But really well presented. I work at an airfield in the UK and when the chap on the radio says "the lance wants full tanks" or the "saratoga wants tabs" or "the "Dakota wants 60L per side" especially when multiple Pa28's/32's are parked alongside. It gets interesting quickly This will certainly help me a little more (and add to my nerdy knowledge collection) Thank you 😁✈️
I think your drawings really add to your videos! I couldn’t look away while listening, I wanted to spot all the differences! It’s a lot cleaner than taking pictures off the internet
Fun fact about the cherokee 140! While the engine was later sold with 150hp, a common STC given to her was to jam a 160hp up front by increasing compression and burning more oil! While it effectivly gave you (before resistances) 150 hp always available, that last 10 hp was pretty much just emergancy power, only allowing 5 minutes (I think, i'd need to check the papers) of continuous opperation. She's a beauty to fly but gets no where fast!
the cherokee pa-28-181 is hands down my favorite plane ive ever flown in training, i loved her docile nature. the nickname around the school for the plane was "tuna can" because of the lack of hip room and the twin latching door.
I hope the effort in these long format videos pays off and makes producing more worth it. It’s extremely interesting to see all the differences (and screwups) that designers made and really makes deciding what your task and purpose is when buying an aircraft
This is fantastic! I remember researching this on my own years ago and just shaking my head at Piper's constant ridiculous name changes and model variations. Of course, it all comes back to marketing. Names are chosen for what will sell best, not what makes sense in a series.
Excellent video, loved the comparisons at the end. Longer format felt sorta like an animated episode of Skywagon University with a different accent. 😂 Thanks for all the hard work in putting this together!
OMG, that was awesome! Thanks so much. Just got my 25hrs/5 in model to let me fly our club's Lance. It is a nice flying plane, and first plane I can take friends flying that doesn't seem embarrassingly small in size.
Whoa, heck of a video well done. I have briefly flown two different models, the (PA-28-161 & PA-32R-300) and have always been a bit confused by their naming scheme. The quick guide at the end was fantastic. Thank you!
Excellent video as always! I love my Cherokee 235 (Pathfinder). Pretty amazing how Piper made one design work for multiple planes, even the seminole has the same fuselage.
WOW!!!…I want to commend you for posting this! Piper aircraft are excellent! Problem is people are confused when it comes to their aircraft. I started out training in a Warrior a lil bit over 40yrs ago. When it came time to buy decades later I brought a Cessna because it was easy to figure out their models. lol Once again, thanks for taking the time to do this! You did an excellent job imo of breaking it down.
This by far my favorite aviation related channel. Been with you since since the beginning and you never fail to provide very useful information delivered with the great comedic content and timing. The art work is excellent and your narration is superb. Would you consider a video on the Air Cam. I saw one at KFMY and found it a very interesting home build.
I started my Flying career in a PA28-140 with 160 hp, and today Cherokees are still my favourite planes to fly (mostly 161 and 181). Even they are not overperfomers, they are really simple to fly 🍾🥂
If we hadn't seen his actual self in other videos, one could reasonably believe he was a benevolent AI, sent by the aviation deity to guide us. Preach brother! :)
Learned in a 1968 140, I kinda prefer it to the Cessna cult offerings. I remember a full flap slip with the rudder pedal to the floor during a power out exercise in the pattern. I greased the landing and have never forgotten the feeling. Plus the trim handle in the roof and the johnson bar flaps are great.
Great job! We have a 6/260 and love it. It can haul a small home but has very little glide! Also fly a turbo lance 300 some and it is a great plane as well!!
Hi, generally a good video. Thank you. As an owner of a PA-28R-201T and a PA23-250T, I would say that the "poo-pooing" on turbo's is a little off :). If you understand your systems, have a good engine monitor (JPI for example), a turbo is a really great thing. On my Turbo-Arrow, (TSIO-360-FB) I've already gone 150 hrs past TBO, compressions are in the 70's and oil reports are clean. Recently did a flight from NM out to FL and it was great having full power capacity to get up and over weather systems. Plane is a smooth ride at FL160 to FL180. Power to climb, and then pull back for decent cruise. If you abuse your turbo / engine system, expect it to cost you in AMU's. From what I've seen, most that dump on turbo's are repeating what others have said, or have not taken care of their aircraft and have been bitten in the check book. Living in the Rockies, I wouldn't fly anything X/C without a turbo....
@@CompleteWalkaround I guess different flying experiences. I always have O2 onboard, and generally have to fly at FL140+ because of mountains and min enroute for IFR / safety, going over the WX…
The Archer III actually received the redesigned cowling with circular inlets vs. the Archer II. The Archer II has the better useful load as the Archer III received extra equipment such as air conditioning. The TX/LX are still PA-28-181 models and sold today (with Garmin G1000 avionics).
@@CompleteWalkaround I think RU-vid is lying. It says I watched the video but I didn’t like/dislike it. I like all of your videos I’ve watched. Thanks!
Amazing! Great video, I’m going to give this an A+, ❤ I have over 140 hours in the Warrior 2, specifically the PA.28.161. Recently I have been flying the 150 and the 140 both are really fun to fly. I really love the 140s ceiling mounted stabilator trim, when I 1st got into it I thought it was an older pike of junk, but I gave it another chance and it was love at 2nd sight 😂! Liked and subscribe, oh and thanks for not wasting my time by starting that in the video.
Holy moly, that’s a lot of Cherokees 😅 Probably my favorite line of aircraft, overall. But TIL that there are way more variants than I knew before! Great stuff!!
Have had my Archer for 22 yrs and have flown it over much of this country. Not the fastest plane but very affordable for me and the thing has a better useful load than my friends 2006 Cirrus SR 22. And I can do much of the annual myself with the supervision of my IA which makes my annuals dirt cheap.
Arrow IV. The only thing I don’t like is needing a ladder to clean the snow off the t-tail. I don’t notice much difference in handling from other pipers I’ve flown. It gets the job done.
I was wondering when you were going to put out a new vid.... Now I see why it took so long. I've gotten to fly a lot of those birds... and you are right about the Arrow 4. It feels crazy heavy, and you fly it to the ground... where a warrior 2 is.... full flaps, idle, dive and point it at the runway. LOL. (Hopefully remembering to round out first) And... the Archer's always felt nose heavy to me (hard to flair) So thanks for the confirmation on that.
Ther cherokee is a great airplane. Rock solid stable but responsive on the controls with a good roll rate. Stall characteristics are unmatched safe and benign. Simple to maintain too. They are like the android phone on 4 place planes; better in almost every way than apple(cessna 172) but lost the marketing war.
Ok so a great guide to what type of piper fits your requirements. Now how about a guide to the expense AD’s and problems to look out for like the corrosion traps and things that wear out.
Great job. When are you going to sell some art work again? I love my shirts we bought. Love the drawings. Let’s go!!! We have a 1972 PA-28-180G. It’s been a great trainer and traveler for me and my son and the useful load inspires confidence in the summer. Plenty of climb. 9-10 GPH burn. 1 door is the only downside
HI Benny, soon hopefully. I'm still up to my ears in the panel project and trying to crank out my multi/ifr at the same time. Once that finishes up hopefully
