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Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R vs Toyo R888 vs Giti Sport GTR3. What's the best track day tyre? 

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Want to know more about the Giti? I've fitted a set to my daily M3 so go follow me on instagram for on the road details! / tyre_reviews
What's the fastest track day tyre? What's the best track day semi slick tyre to use on the road and track? I take 3 very different track day tyres and put them on a BMW M2 to see which is best in the dry and wet. Video shot at MIRA and Cadwell Park.
Tyres tested in the video:
Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R - www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/Pirel...
Toyo R888 - www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/Toyo/...
Giti Gitisport GTR3 - www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/Giti/...
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@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Want to know more about the Giti? I've fitted a set to my daily M3 so go follow me on instagram for on the road details! instagram.com/tyre_reviews/
@r129r16pfl
@r129r16pfl 5 лет назад
Top content! Thumbs up! I am very interested in Nankang AR1 vs Federal FZ201 vs Toyo R888R
@_xtreme.
@_xtreme. 5 лет назад
nankang ns-2r (two compounds), toyo r1r, toyo r888r.
@Lethal_Intent
@Lethal_Intent 5 лет назад
Maybe a budget trackday showdown with some different brands like not the internet favourites. Something like nankang ns2r, westlake sport rs, Achilles 123s, fedral rsrr along them lines now that would be interesting. Also maybe price to perfomance comparison to the big brands.
@GuysThatDrive
@GuysThatDrive 5 лет назад
Absolutely more track tyre content please!
@GuysThatDrive
@GuysThatDrive 5 лет назад
Yes lots more track tyre content, please do the full range from budget to full slick and include the trofeo r for comparison too
@Norbury90
@Norbury90 5 лет назад
I find it amazing how big an effect tyres can have on a sports car. If you went into a dealer and bought an M2 on one set of tyres you might not be particularly impressed with it, but be blown away by it on another set. People don't understand this enough. Keep it up, great video
@r129r16pfl
@r129r16pfl 5 лет назад
Agree tires make a massive difference, in fact it's the most effective performance mod, if you want to reduce the laptime
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Couldn't have put it better myself :)
@Willhgf
@Willhgf 5 лет назад
But then there is people that put an amazing tire on a really slow car which is just overkill
@KXP70
@KXP70 5 лет назад
W S or if they can't afford a fast car due to insurance being extortionate then it makes said slow car the best it can be.
@steventoo
@steventoo 5 лет назад
100%. I bought a C63s AMG wagon. It came from the dealer with Dunlop Sportmaxx RT2's, and I thought the car was rubbish. The ride was awful, it really struggled for traction, the front end just didn't want to turn, and I ended up putting the car on consignment. I got a call from the dealer saying that the car was sold on the condition that I put new tyres on it. I went for Michelin PS4S and the car was COMPLETELY different. I'd already allocated the money to other things and couldn't keep it, but the tyres made all the difference :(
@RoadandRacetv
@RoadandRacetv 5 лет назад
Stunning. An excellent video for those of us, like me, who want a good track tyre that you can use on the road. Subscribed.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Thanks, appreciated :) Nice channel too btw, subbed
@appleaday3868
@appleaday3868 5 лет назад
Always in for a suprise with your tire reviews, appreciate it!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Glad you enjoy them :)
@Xav911
@Xav911 5 лет назад
The M2 looks so good with these wheels.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
I really liked the bronze wheels on it!
@Luke_lw
@Luke_lw 5 лет назад
what brand are the wheels? Thanks
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
zitowheels.net/wheels/zf01/ Zito ZF01
@laochek
@laochek 4 года назад
You made it like child’s play reviewing and thinking while driving to get a good timing. Imagine you drive with full concentration!! My go to channel before i buy tyres. Thank you
@adamhallwood5768
@adamhallwood5768 5 лет назад
I have no intention of buying any of these tires, yet I'm still watching and finding it very interesting. Great work.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
haha, thank you!
@woshikakadong
@woshikakadong 4 года назад
I'm here sitting in the basement eating my 5 dollar subway footlong sandwich watching fancy cars and fancy tires that I can't afford, take a sip of my mountain dew btw nice tires
@DavidWhite-qm8wd
@DavidWhite-qm8wd 5 лет назад
Keep up the great work, used to rely on word of mouth or garage recommendations when sourcing new tyres, these reviews seem to be more honest and "real-world"!!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Glad you're finding the site useful :)
@iamryanlittle
@iamryanlittle 5 лет назад
What's up, Tyre Reviews?! Ryan Little here. It's super cool to hear my music in your video. Much love.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Dude you've got all the tallent, love your stuff!
@GrandSavrify
@GrandSavrify 2 месяца назад
I have tried almost every tire brand including those cheap ones, I couldn't forget how well balance and grippy a michelin tire was, how pointy a yokohama can be, and how durable a bridgestone can last. Recently I have changed a set of Giti S2 and I can assure you it is basically a cheaper version of Michelin PS4. It saves my wallet and satisfaction by a big margin, I hope Giti is keeping their quality without increasing its' price. Last but not least, I have to thank tyrereview's professional and honest review throughout the years, it is really helpful when we are looking for the better deals! Keep up the good work guys!
@mikenorris5378
@mikenorris5378 5 лет назад
Keep this going, very thorough testing, a unique channel.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Thank you :)
@MultiTopgearfan
@MultiTopgearfan 5 лет назад
First time viewer here, never knew a video about tires would be so interesting to watch. Subscribed!!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Thank you!
@stefstef4895
@stefstef4895 5 лет назад
Excellent video, as always. What is painfully obvious to me is that little by little over time there is no reason whatsoever not to opt for a 'second' brand. I mean, who knew of Giti until recently? And now they not only throw the gauntlet, but pick it up as well. Well done.
@law5223
@law5223 5 лет назад
Great video and +1 for full track day tyre test 👌
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
On it :)
@mrbbs
@mrbbs 5 лет назад
Congratz again in making these videos, it's really valuable to see someone test it which actually understands it well. I have test also many tires on my cars although it always comes at a cost :|
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Thanks :) Glad you're enjoying them
@mrbbs
@mrbbs 5 лет назад
Tyre Reviews I used to have to R888 in 215/45 R17 and 235/45R17 on my s2000. I just replaced them with 215/45R17 - 245/40R17 Michelin PS4S tires from the US to Belgium as they're only delivered in Europe from 17" onwards. However the rear is how much to planted and I have considerably understeer at turn in. I'm now considering replacing them with PS4 in 225/45R17 for the fronts and 235/45R17 on the rear. What do you think from your experience? I also run a gt86 on Michelin PSS in 215/45R17 and I like the oversteer behavior. So that's also what I'm checking in the S2000.
@mrbbs
@mrbbs 5 лет назад
Tyre Reviews cfr my video on what style I like ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IXRIxAJ7iqY.html me videos on the channel. Thanks for the advise!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Nice drifting :) Check out my last video regarding tyre widths, it should answer some of your questions :)
@JakobusVdL
@JakobusVdL 5 лет назад
Hi, I've just found your channel, and watched a few of the reviews. They are great, lots of interesting tyre information, Thank you. Subscribed now, and looking forward to checking out the existing vids, and the new ones as they come out.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Thank you :)
@STIGRS
@STIGRS 5 лет назад
Respect your hard work!!!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Thank you, appreciated :)
@jacebeleren429
@jacebeleren429 5 лет назад
Holy shit! Subscribed! Looking forward to the next review.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Glad you enjoyed it :)
@DontPanicDear
@DontPanicDear 5 лет назад
Subscribed and watched all your videos this evening. Really enjoyed the rare proper technical detail, presentation and natural style! Cheers Jonathan 👍🏻 I’d personally like to see some Porsche N rated versions of Pirelli and Michelin tested back to back. A little niche perhaps, but we’re all stuck on these N versions while under warranty!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Thank you :) That video is on the list, but it's proving tricky to get a tyre company to support!
@DontPanicDear
@DontPanicDear 5 лет назад
Tyre Reviews Yes, I can imagine! It’s essentially Pirelli vs Goodyear vs Michelin and nobody want’s to come 3rd! Btw, I’ve looked at Tyre Reviews site / ratings before. I’ve always been cautious of end used unqualified % scores though. (Especially after an FK452 purchase disaster) It’s great that you’re properly explaining your findings and reasons in these videos. I’m currently on P-Zero N1, which are a massive step on from N0! Such progress, but I doubt I’ll ever experience that ‘Eureka’ moment again, as when I first drove a 130i on a set of PS2!
@Moriquendiii
@Moriquendiii 5 лет назад
Good video, but sad to see you only included 3 tyres. Would really have loved seeing a full track day tyre test with atleast the Cup 2 and AD08R in there aswell(and the new R888r). Now it almost comes off as a review of the GITI GTR3. Tough luck on the moody M2 spoiling your test evening, but you saved it pretty good. Liked and subbed, hoping for a full track tyre shootout!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
I would have loved that too... which is why I'm going to have to do one next year :)
@joshuadoliveiro
@joshuadoliveiro 4 года назад
excellent reviews, my man!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 года назад
Thank you
@thomastthomas
@thomastthomas 5 лет назад
Wow, this is one of the or the only Giti tyre review in youtube I could find. Can you do more reviews on Giti control 288 Giti comfort and Giti SUV tyres? Really would love to learn how they work on normal everyday cars. Great reviews. Subscribed.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
There's data on www.tyrereviews.co.uk
@HassanEido1
@HassanEido1 5 лет назад
Love these reviews
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Thanks :)
@classiccarssp
@classiccarssp 5 лет назад
Great test! Hope your channel get all the suport
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Thanks man, appreciated!
@waxon9046
@waxon9046 5 лет назад
Great review. Subscribed!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Thank you :))
@sarathks2515
@sarathks2515 4 года назад
I had GT Radial Champiro 50 (sub brand of Giti) on my Suzuki Swift 10 years back. The tyres were very noisy, but they were super grippy on wet and dry roads and had excellent braking and handling capabilities. These were even grippier than the Yokohama Adrives and Michelin Energy XM2s that followed it. I were skeptical when the tyre dealer recommended me GT Radial, an unknown brand. But in fact, they proved to be good quality tyres.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 года назад
Glad you liked them
@PLiWorx
@PLiWorx 5 лет назад
Dope Vid, As usual 👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Glad you enjoyed it :)
@Cascdy
@Cascdy 5 лет назад
looking forward to the next video!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Me too :)
@jmac8845
@jmac8845 5 лет назад
Smashing watch!!! Always on point with your delivery of pieces and conclusions!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Thank you so much!
@FairladyS130
@FairladyS130 4 года назад
Interesting review, thanks for the effort. On the R888 and R888R, these are not liked in Australia for track days, they are sold as a semi slick but don't perform anywhere near the best semi slicks.
@preciousa163
@preciousa163 5 лет назад
amazing video mate..,,subscribed
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Thank you :)
@t.h.4632
@t.h.4632 5 лет назад
Brilliant video! Last time I drove Toyos they were a bit on the bad side on the wet. Pirelli seem to know what they´re doing. PS! Can´t wait for the next video! The showdown of MPS4S and MPS4. I have a feeling it´s gonna be close! Just ordered a new set of MPS4 last night btw.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Definitely going to be close!
@t.h.4632
@t.h.4632 5 лет назад
Can´t wait! Fitting my new MPS4 tires in a few days. Should be a decent upgrade from the, in my opinion, the already awesome Pirelli Cinturato P7 tires that´s currently on my touring car. 2011 production tires. Bought them back in 2013. Can´t believe they´ve lasted for so long. And I drive a lot. I especially like their grip during rainy weather. They´re very, very good for wet driving. I´ve actully pushed them quite far on the wet as well as higher speeds on the dry. Now, the MPS4 tires should be good for going fast around bends in both wet and dry. I look forward to trying them out a great deal! Now, bring on the video of the showdown!! :)
@larryhernandez5062
@larryhernandez5062 5 лет назад
You're Videos Are Very Educational . Can't Wait For Next Videos . . . .
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Glad you enjoy them :)
@colinwatt00
@colinwatt00 5 лет назад
Excellent video. Excellent review. Excellent content. Subscribed.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you :)
@Skirk84
@Skirk84 5 лет назад
Tyre reviews, what psi did you run in each set of tires???? Because as you know a track tire like Trofeo R will respond very well in a car weighing similar to an M2 at between 28 and 33psi hot and a street tire will run 33-40psi hot. Heres the tricky part, if you've done any study at all on the r888 you will realise the sidewalls are quite soft, and this becomes worse once warm. Toyo actually recommend varying tire pressures as per the weight of the car and they are unusually high but work extremely well. This is what I have found, 1400-1600kg car should run 36-42psi hot. Which takes about 2 laps off the life until they overheat and you need a cooldown lap, however the grip for the 5 laps before that are unreal. Many track days ive heard people complain about their r888's and EVERY single one of them are running close to 30psi hot. I instantly facepalm and offer a suggestion, we pump them up and send them back out. A bmw z4 improved his time by 6 seconds, an r35 gtr by 3 seconds, and a Supra by 5 seconds on a 1min 40 lap circuit. As soon as my car drops below 36psi you can safely knock 1.5 seconds off my lap time. Nobody runs an r compound semi slick that high, but with r888 you need to, and its a big improvement. I have turned people from hating the tire to now saying its the only thing they will run. Im assuming you ran them too low, because anyone who says the toyo is noisy is obviously running them below 36psi. Its actually quieter than the trofeo R if you run the pressures correctly, tho i am still faster by 0.15 of a second on the trofeo r, having about 60 laps under my belt with the trofeo r and well over 100 with the r888.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Great information, thank you. In the interests of keeping things fair, we ran all three tyres at the same pressure, which I think was 35psi hot.
@ezra5485
@ezra5485 5 лет назад
It would be really fair if you were running them at the manufacturers recommended pressure
@emmanuellehuu8818
@emmanuellehuu8818 3 года назад
@@ezra5485 yeah
@271production
@271production 5 лет назад
Awesome video dude! Not many youtube channels that review car tyres in an unbiased way, using both subjective and objective data. Keep up the good work!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Thank you :) Really appreciated!
@bertayarkereta7847
@bertayarkereta7847 4 года назад
this is an awesome video about tyre performance
@1061shrink1061
@1061shrink1061 5 лет назад
I was lucky enough I experience the trofeo R at snetterton this week. They’d been freshly installed on a GT3 RS. Previous experience was on cup 2. Very impressed, better grip than standard cup2 and stayed on boil for a long time at high speeds and some hard braking. They were even quite good from cold (18 degree ambient). Wouldn’t want to use them in any kind of wet though!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Sounds like you nailed the review, that sums them up really well
@Blatchie224
@Blatchie224 5 лет назад
Bronze alloys looked amazing!
@konstantinmoraglis5300
@konstantinmoraglis5300 7 дней назад
Very interresting . Love Cadwell park . Thank you
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 7 дней назад
Us too!
@jakubfrankovsky6983
@jakubfrankovsky6983 5 лет назад
Lovely video, keep doing good job :)
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Thank you :)
@EighTeeNOFivE
@EighTeeNOFivE 5 лет назад
Great video, very interested in the Gigi's now! Looking forward to the next video.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Thanks :)
@sid12345678910
@sid12345678910 5 лет назад
Would love to see Cup 2 vs Trofeo and Giti vs 4s. Keep up the amazing videos!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
I have Cup 2 vs 4s coming very soon!
@russ92c
@russ92c 5 лет назад
Interesting and in depth info
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Thank you!
@74maverickuk
@74maverickuk 5 лет назад
Quality video 😀 subscribed
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Thanks :))
@jamiec9866
@jamiec9866 5 лет назад
Definitely want to see more videos like this. Really interesting, well done! I'd love to see the Yokohama AD08R in a test. It'd be interesting to compare it against the top UHP tyre, the GTR3 in this video & full track day semi slicks. I understand the AD08R & the GTR3 to sit in the middle of UHP & track tyres so it'd be good to see if they're worth the extra money. I currently drive an FN2 Type R on PS4's & they're a great tyre, but do overheat on track. It'd be good to see how tyres compare in that aspect too.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
You might find this test interesting - www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2017-Track-Day-Tyre-Test.htm
@jamiec9866
@jamiec9866 5 лет назад
Tyre Reviews Thanks. Yes I've seen this before. It was a surprise the AD08R was rated better than the R888R overall. As I say I'd like to see you do a test similar to what I mentioned above. I really enjoy your reviews & prefer videos than reading something on the internet. I also believe you to be impartial where as some of these tests I'm not sure they are. I'll keep my eyes peeled. Keep up the good work & thanks for the reply 👍
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Definitely working on that for next year :) And I'll do the test blind so there's no bias at all.
@jamiec9866
@jamiec9866 5 лет назад
Tyre Reviews lol Stevie Wonder style! 😎
@TheRobphobos
@TheRobphobos 5 лет назад
Can't wait for the next vid ! (4 vs 4S etc) Also interested to see this GTR3 against those too. Fingers crossed for the Giti in my sizes :D
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
I'm so excited to finally film the Michelin video! I hope I can do it justice.
@inodew6178
@inodew6178 4 года назад
Have you compared Trofeo R vs Cup 2 R? We would like see which one is faster around track. You have very nice reviews.
@carllynch8798
@carllynch8798 5 лет назад
One of my favourite tracks !
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Mine too!!
@skyrunner86
@skyrunner86 5 лет назад
Good test. I was just missing two tires there in this comparison - Michelin's Cup 2s and Federal's 595RS-RRs as a budget option.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
The next one will have them all in :)
@Moore_Jono
@Moore_Jono 5 лет назад
Love this @TyreReviews! I know that this is about tires but I would also be interested to hear your opinions on the M2 in general as a fast-road/daily & trackday car. Cheers
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
I thought the current M2 was a little disappointing, it didn't feel special, but I image the new CP will be much better as it has the proper engine!
@Moore_Jono
@Moore_Jono 5 лет назад
I have only test-driven an M2 (with DCT) on the road, where it felt a little inert and - at road speeds - a little less engaging than my Mk7 Fiesta ST... My next car will be RWD, something good on track. M2 Competition is a candidate. Thanks for your reply, keep up the good work.
@slomant
@slomant 5 лет назад
Thank you for these super informative reviews! Just one question poped up in my mind, why didn't you use the new version of toyo - r888r?
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
It sadly wasn't available in the sizes we needed at time of purchasing tyres :( I'll do something with the R888 R in the future :)
@jeremyr7147
@jeremyr7147 5 лет назад
I've been selling Giti tires the last year or two. Very good tires for the money price is right. The car tire ride great. I've also had amazing results with Thunderer at half the price of a sumitomo. The thunderer ride is amazing in 235 40 18s.
@SEAN518848
@SEAN518848 5 лет назад
Wonderful, real expert! You need a bigger production crew to have a massive test! Although I have to say the production quality has come a looooooooooong way! Fantastic!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Thank you :)
@ClaytonYatescarenthusiast
@ClaytonYatescarenthusiast 5 лет назад
Will you do a 200 tw track day and auto cross tire test? So re71, rival 1.5s, kumho. 19 30 305. Rival just released that size.
@anil.gundogdu
@anil.gundogdu 5 лет назад
Awesome content. Thanks.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Glad you enjoyed it :)
@johton
@johton 5 лет назад
I had the Federal 595RSR and it was a great compromise occasional track day tyre on my every day car (tuned Mazda 3MPS which was terrible on my factory tyres on the track) - very good wear and wet performance was great. Front end grip was excellent and I could really push the front wheel drive as much as I dared without just understeering under power. Puncture resistance not so great but I would think its good value for the perfomance.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
I'll add them to the list to test :)
@user-vm8do5ob1t
@user-vm8do5ob1t 5 лет назад
Very good video!!!!!Nice guys!!!!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Thank you :)
@titirallye
@titirallye 5 лет назад
Thanks for you vids, that's not easy to find that kind of serious tyre test in the internet ! Could you also review tyres in smaller dimensions ? I have to fit 17'' trackdays tyre on my GT86, there's not much choices available and I really don't know what to choose... I want to keep my car fun without too much grip (bye bye PSCup2), but I don't want either a tyre that will overheat after 5 laps (Bye bye PS4, Eagle F1...). Any thoughts ??? Yokohama AD08R maybe ?
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
AD08 is a good shout, R888R I need to test, Kumho V70A is great. I plan on doing more tests this year :)
@elijahullmann6231
@elijahullmann6231 5 лет назад
Good test!!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Glad you enjoyed it :)
@mikea.7370
@mikea.7370 5 лет назад
That was a really good video, I'm super surprised about the Toyo. I thought that tire would do much better
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
ME too :(
@JD2ndcity
@JD2ndcity 5 лет назад
Great video. Here's an idea for a test... PS4S v CS6 v GTR3 v PS91 v FK510
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
I plan on this, only bigger at the start of next year. It takes a huge amount of organizing!
@willargent5271
@willargent5271 5 лет назад
Great video and as per usual so informative👍🏼 keep up the amazing work😁
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Thank you :)
@BangLazar
@BangLazar 5 лет назад
Thank you for a great video, as always. It would be good to mention what alignment the tyres were tested with. Assuming it was stock on the BMW, with zero camber in the front, no surprise you couldn’t get confidence with R888s. Due to tyre construction R888 likes significant negative camber, at least -2.5 or more. And that’s what most serious track guys would run anyways. Trofeo Rs are frequently fitted on super cars, which tend to have have zero camber due to their intended regular road use. With a serious track set-up of a more common track car, most people (think old Bimmer owners) would probably be able to get much closer results between R888 and the Pirellis, at half the cost. Would be really interesting if you make a test on a track-ready car with front camber alignment.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
It's a good point, but sadly in the scope of this sort of test customising the cars setup for each tyre is impossible, so we usually run stock for fairness, as that's how a lot of people will run. I plan to make another video where we go into setup adjustment etc, it will be complicated to make though so won't be for a while
@BangLazar
@BangLazar 5 лет назад
Tyre Reviews Fair enough! Looking forward to that video. Sadly there are not many decent and affordable alternatives to R888/R out there 🤷🏻‍♂️
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Not a fan of the Nankang AR1 or Kumho V70A
@jfgerard6862
@jfgerard6862 5 лет назад
Intersting comparison, I would not rely on a Giti tire to fit my car before but after looking to the video, I could envisage it. Need to look to other performances like "wear" to make the good choice. Impressive to see how budget tire can sometimes get close to premium brands...
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
I'd like to test it more to be sure, but it looks like an interesting choice.
@0079supersaiyan
@0079supersaiyan 5 лет назад
would be nice to see mpsc2, mps4s, ad08r and trofeo r in the next test. Perhaps even a road based tyre like mpss or mps4 . thanks for this video please keep up the great work. subscribed
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
MPS4 vs MPS4S vs Cup 2 live tomorrow :)
@0079supersaiyan
@0079supersaiyan 5 лет назад
Tyre Reviews aweesome. Keep up the amazing work.
@LapoftheWorld
@LapoftheWorld 4 года назад
Late to the party here, but having run R888s and assorted 200tw rubber (Old Dunlop Z1s, Nitto NT05, and currently Falken RT615K+) I always felt like they were close to the same in one-lap absolute pace. The Toyos put up with heat a little better in longer driving sessions, but sacrifice a lot of road comfort to do so (which is whatever because that's not what they're made for).
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 года назад
Better late than never :)
@IdentityHDhun
@IdentityHDhun 5 лет назад
Interesting video! Thanks!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Glad you enjoyed it :)
@Philoreason
@Philoreason 5 лет назад
another excellent video! Now i'm really interested in the GitiSport GTR3, should I put it on my GT3 when it's available?
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
I'd wait for it to be featured in another test first!
@Redsquirrel007
@Redsquirrel007 5 лет назад
www.yourstore24.de has 4 sizes available for sales.
@Richard-jo2lr
@Richard-jo2lr 5 лет назад
I love almost all the wheels what wheels are they ? You recon they will look alright on a blue m235i ?
@MAFFA76
@MAFFA76 5 лет назад
Very informative video this & although I have an R53 track car that has NS2-R trackday tyres on it the GTR3’s look interesting as a tyre that could go on my A45 AMG as I daily it & wouldn’t mind trying it on track. The ‘go to’ tyre on that is the PS4 so would be very interested in a direct comparison to that. Maybe do a comparison using a hyper-hatch next time like an A45, RS3 or RS
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Thanks. The GTR3 should feel sharper than the PS4, but the wet performance is yet to be proven
@MAFFA76
@MAFFA76 5 лет назад
Tyre Reviews if it holds its own that might just sell it for me
@justinturner4850
@justinturner4850 4 года назад
Thank you for the information. I’m very curious how tweaking tire pressures can change the characteristics of tires. For example: Would lowering pressure up front and raising pressure in the rear help fight understeer? Thanks again.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 года назад
Working on it :)
@alexaescht
@alexaescht 5 лет назад
Great comparison! Really surprised by the Giti
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
You and me both!
@alexaescht
@alexaescht 5 лет назад
Tyre Reviews Ever heard of CEAT tyres before? Used to be Italian, now Indian, and we’re about to do some durability testing for them in Australia. Their benchmark tyre is the PS4!! This will be interesting
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
I have heard of them, never used them. Let me know how they get on!
@zakelwe
@zakelwe 5 лет назад
Nice video again. would be interesting to see how the Dunlop DZ03G would do against the Pirelli, for me it is a better track day tyres than the Toyo. Never heard of the Giti sport GTR3, looks like a good job though for road! Will check it out, thanks for that.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
The Dunlop is on the list of tyres for the next track day tyre test.
@mitchfromtheinternet297
@mitchfromtheinternet297 5 лет назад
Tyre Reviews get the AR1s on there as well lad, it’s becoming very popular. I only use Direzzas and AR1s currently.
@fransarj
@fransarj 5 лет назад
Can't wait for the ps4 vs ps4s review. Hope you can show how it compares to the gtr3
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
It's finally shot! It'll be on the channel in around 2 weeks.
@doolian1t118
@doolian1t118 5 лет назад
Thankyou, more please and can you include target hot pressures for optimal performance?
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
We ran everything at 30/32 to be fair. I want to make a tyre pressure tuning video in the future.
@doolian1t118
@doolian1t118 5 лет назад
Thanks for reply. Was 30/32 starting pressure or hot adjusted to..?
@t30396360
@t30396360 5 лет назад
Good video , i will try giti
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Not available yet, and I'd suggest waiting for some more tests first.
@jonmaddison
@jonmaddison 5 лет назад
Looking forward to that promised review of the Giti against the Pilot Sport 4S.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
There's a super test involving both in June, and I hope to run them on track in my M3 before then :)
@jonmaddison
@jonmaddison 5 лет назад
@@tyrereviewsGreat. with some other track-biased road tyres too I hope.
@Todapartyjayhan
@Todapartyjayhan 5 лет назад
Thanks for the test! What was ambient temp at the track that day (approx?)
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
I think ambient was around 20c
@lloyd.8272
@lloyd.8272 5 лет назад
Would of been great if you could of done a comparison of the m2’s standard super sports.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Agreed, they're still one of my fav tyres.
@JoeAchilles1
@JoeAchilles1 5 лет назад
Brilliant video mate, that Giti looks interesting, hope they do them in 18's...
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
I'm sure they will :)
@Redsquirrel007
@Redsquirrel007 5 лет назад
What size do you need in 18”. I heard some more 17” and 18” planned for 2019 spring season
@NoahBB
@NoahBB 3 года назад
I'd love to see this awesome test done again in 2020 or 2021. Sport Cup 2(R?) vs R888R vs Nankang AR-1?
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 3 года назад
Something is coming )
@NoahBB
@NoahBB 3 года назад
@@tyrereviews fantastic!
@typeszero222
@typeszero222 5 лет назад
excellent vid, I would like to see Yoko AD08R vs Dunlop Direzza Z111 vs Michelin Pilot Cup Sport 2, basically 180 to 200 treadwear comparison so a track day hero tire for the road
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Working on it for next year :)
@typeszero222
@typeszero222 5 лет назад
awesome a lot of track day racers around the world will watch that, most time attack classes run maximum 180 treadwear rules for street class so is applicable to lots of track guys
@krichd1
@krichd1 5 лет назад
The new ADVAN A052 would be more interesting than the old AD08R.
@typeszero222
@typeszero222 5 лет назад
good point they weren't on the list of available tires here when I posted but look like a good option
@pooceq
@pooceq 5 лет назад
Not bad for a brand I wasn't aware of. Never even thought there was a tyre brand from Singapore
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Offices in Singapore but manufacturer in China
@sebastianschmitt4772
@sebastianschmitt4772 4 года назад
Would like to see the Giti Sport GTR3 vs PS4s, Goodyear Eagle F1 SuperSport, Continental sportcontact 6!
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 4 года назад
Make sure you subscribe then ;)
@sebastianschmidt5529
@sebastianschmidt5529 3 года назад
Could you please test the Federal RS-R, Federal RS-Pro, Syron Street Race, Banking NS-2R and compare to the Cup 2, AD08 RS or some other Semi-Slicks/UHP tires in size 225/45/17? Greetings...
@mgbv8man2
@mgbv8man2 5 лет назад
how would you compare a trofeo R to a Dunlop dzo3g or a Yokohama Ao50 as a 15" for track only use?
@0079supersaiyan
@0079supersaiyan 5 лет назад
trofeo r vs mpsc2 vs ar1 vs r888r vs yoko A052 please. This will be the ultimate current track tyre shoot out. Would be amazing to see this.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
working on it :)
@0079supersaiyan
@0079supersaiyan 5 лет назад
@@tyrereviews thanks look forward to see it.
@krichd1
@krichd1 5 лет назад
Don't forget the Accelera 651 Sport tire, I think this is the best bang for the buck 200tw tire right now in the USA.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
That's a bold statement! I'll have to test
@pirotehs
@pirotehs 5 лет назад
I thought R888R's are in the market for a few years now. Was very suprised to see old R888 in this video. Would love to see Cup2 and AD08R tires in next track day tire test, and maybe 4S as best street tire. I think it would be good to mention UTGQ numbers of participants in track tire test videos. In defence of R888 vs Giti, R888 is at least 10 year old tire model. Giti "not in the market yet" is just matching R888's performance numbers...
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
R888 has had life updates, it's not the same tyre as 10 years ago. I was sad I couldn't get the R888R in the right sizes though at time of test :(
@Acrimoniousbear1
@Acrimoniousbear1 5 лет назад
Interesting review. Despite others opinions I liked the lack of bias. Still a r888 fan tho. BTW, what wheels are those, please?
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Zito ZF01
@FK121FK
@FK121FK 5 лет назад
Just found out your channel and I loved it. got my sub man Btw, can you tell me what those wheels are ? They are a beauty :D
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Zito somethings :)
@shadowblade2149
@shadowblade2149 5 лет назад
I came from car throttle when you were with Alex a little bit before this comment in the first video of Gareth, the e46 330d
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
:)
@MihaiCostiug
@MihaiCostiug 4 года назад
What about the Yokohama Advan? I'm quite please about my AD08R's on a 2.5 Focus ST.
@larsweinand4035
@larsweinand4035 5 лет назад
What build year is the M2? Mine got a SW update in January and I did not have the limb mode issue with mine on track even with an almost empty tank. It would be awesome if you'd also talk about tire pressures you used during the day on the tires. I also noted that you did not seem to have used the pressure sensors on the wheels, which is a helpful thing to have at a trackday, since you're able to see the tire pressures and temperatures of the (air inside the) tires in the idrive menu. Looking forward to your next video :)
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
As we had three sets of wheels we couldn't mount the pressure sensors, but we were getting all the tyres up to temperature then adjusting the pressures to an even level for all tyres (30/32). Not sure on the build date of the M2, it was a rental. From my research online it's an issue with the passive fuel pump pumping from the left to right of the tank and only happens on very fast, long right handers. Which cadwell park has!
@larsweinand4035
@larsweinand4035 5 лет назад
Thanks for the feedback! That makes total sense. I drove mine on a small track, without fast right corners so no wonder I did not run into it. Still really loved to read the tire pressure in real time in the idrive, especially without me having to much track experience yet
@Gustavngr
@Gustavngr 6 месяцев назад
Please include other Giti tyres(Giticomfort 228v1, F22 Giticontrol 288) in your reviews more.
@patrik2259
@patrik2259 5 лет назад
WOW, very informative video! All you guys need to sub. More recourses too this channel/type of content please.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Thanks man, appreciated :)
@baldheadracing
@baldheadracing 5 лет назад
Interesting how the market is different in the UK vs. North America: Trofeo R - heat cycles out instantly so only for people with lots of money who won't buy Hoosier R7's; R888 - trashed by pretty much everyone in North America sooo hard at introduction years ago - everybody wanted a better RA-1 - that Toyo almost instantly started importing the R888R, which is so (relatively) slow that '200' (ha!) treadwear tires like the RE-71R are typically faster, albeit nowhere near as long-lasting on track; and I've never heard of the third tire - but I would caution against saying anything about a prototype tire. The 200 treadwear market is huge in North America due to competition rulesets, with everything from tires good for only a couple hot laps (RE-71R) to tires good for endurance races all wearing the '200' rating. Still, it is nice to see what is available in other countries. Keep up the great work, and plan on running street cars with a full tank!
@krichd1
@krichd1 5 лет назад
Yeah, the 200 treadwear market is very interesting in North America. I think the best is the Yokohama ADVAN A052, it has better grip than the RE-71R and last longer. For endurance race, the Hankook RS4 still would be my choose. Best bang for the buck is definitely the Accelera 651 Sport right now.
@aiGeis
@aiGeis 5 лет назад
Bullshit, r888s were out for over a decade before r888r was introduced, and nearly everyone stateside runs them as a budget semi-slick. Furthermore, treadwear ratings don't really mean anything, if you knew anything about tires you would know that.
@nathanthomas4239
@nathanthomas4239 5 лет назад
What are the wheels you were using? I've been looking for a good y-spoke wheel and really like the one you are using.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
Zito ZF01
@gky3019
@gky3019 5 лет назад
Pilot Sports Cup 2s should have been there, otherwise great vid.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
There will be a bigger version of the video coming next year :)
@christophertcraig
@christophertcraig 5 лет назад
Thanks for the reviews... have you previously rated tires for AWD cars? I’m a subaru fan and always wondered what tires could conquer the track and be good on my daily driver.
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
I've not done an AWD tyre test, but the trend you see in other tests should apply for AWD cars too!
@christophertcraig
@christophertcraig 5 лет назад
Do you think the same would go for tire width or do you think the AWD would change that up at all?
@tyrereviews
@tyrereviews 5 лет назад
There will be differences with every car setup, but overall trends when it comes to things like grip should be in the same direction :)
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