Planting Brassica Food Plots - No-Till vs Tilling 

Ist time caught your video n content !! Was EXCELLENT!! The comparison of Till To No Till on same days n showing process n results .. I've been Having many plot fails over years For Not Following proper steps with soul enhancement or weed Destruction 🤔 n was wasting money n lots of effort .. Been watching lots of Experienced plot growers n seed sellers !! Loved your content n video !! Continued Succes 😎 Stay safe !! Bob Pennsylvania ... 260 acre property!!

My goodness I wish we had dirt like that down here! Red clay and grey powder is all we have to work with

You are dealing with some beautiful dirt!

Thank you for the video. It was very educational. I have been contemplating on the no-till and this pretty much seals the deal.

You really know your stuff, young man. I am impressed with the experiments you're doing and the understanding you already have of the process. If you plant buckwheat early in the summer and avoid discing, you could broadcast into the buckwheat (which chokes out other stuff) followed by cultipacking and spraying. The discing brings up millions of seeds, so if you can avoid doing that, you're better off. Also, no-tilling protects that great OM you've got in your soil. Keep experimenting and putting out great videos to help all of us learn right along with you. :)

Thanks for the no-till recommendations.

Good simple honest video. Very informative. Keep it up. 👍

That soil is GORGEOUS!!!!! I’m a bit jealous lol. I have sandy/Lome and it’s a pain. But, can still be made to look good. Great video, good comparison!!!!

Awesome to see the difference, I’m going no till for my food plot for sure

hey dude this is actually a really great video thanks for the upload

that is the most beautiful soil I have ever seen... Wow... I havent finished the vid yet, but I will take no till every time. there are many reasons, but... with till.. You can see the plants start early and it looks great within days... BUT.. No till... it will make you wonder if you will get anything and then all the sudden it flushes and looks amazing. With my luck with rain, I need that ground cover and mulch to help me out not to mention the other reasons associated with no till. thanks for the vid!

Nice job! Keep the tilling to a minimum and you’ll conserve your beautiful soil. Brassicas and small legume seeds should always be no tilled (just broadcast and cultipack). You should try broadcasting clover into your corn plots. Broadcast and cultipack right after drilling the corn seed. It keeps the soil covered and provides nitrogen to the corn.

Great looking soil!

I took a drink everytime you said brassicas. Man I'm hurting. Good content.

Looks like you have some great soil ! Good video !

Awesome channel!

Beautiful soil

Very nice and thanks for sharing....

We have lots of sand, however im glad not a lot of rocks. Nice comparison experiment

I'm amazed by the color of that soil! So much Organic matter, so soft and loose. Beautiful

Enjoyed the video!

I have found that if you want to plant without all the poison, till early then wait two weeks then do a scratch tilling and wait two weeks then till another scratch tilling and then plant. I get it pushes back the planting but there is no better way without poison.

Beautiful Soil !!!!!!!

I think where you went wrong on the tilling is that it wasn't killed off enough and then you disturbed the seed bed. Not surprised you had a lot of weeds there. I'm sure you will get growth as you said. Nice vid.

Awesome idea keep it up!

Great looking soil

That soil is so rich 💪🏻

Great job mankind from central KY

That waterhemp is bad news! You will have to get it under control or its gonna ruin your plots for years to come. You will have to switch and plant some Enlist corn and soybeans for a couple years to get it under control. Keep No tilling the brassicas, that will help keep the weeds down. The Enlist is roundup and 2-4d so you will have a residual in the soil for a couple weeks so just keep that in mind. I love your videos and your passion for planting food plots! Keep up the good work!

Very informative video. I have the same problem with weeds over taking and low on potassium. Still learning.

My Lord that ground looks amazing ,my new York ground is clay rocks with about 3 " of top soil

I think u make really good videos. Very informative and fun to watch. I actually enjoy your videos more than Jeff Strugis. I do watch him alot to... I like ur style better though. Would like to see u branch out more with ur videos as well... But nice job. I appreciate it

hey. always enjoy your videos. what would you do different next year about your weedy plot. when you planted it looked great. would a pre emergent work ? thank you for sharing your video. alway learning something new.

You have to prevent weeds from seeding out. Each plant drops a 1000 plus seeds and can be buryed for 20 years and still grow when brought up to top. Try do rready for two seasons to kill back. Theirs a book ultimate deer food plots. Ed spinazzola wrote the book he started QDM in Michigan also a farmer and engineer. Good luck. Also im outside Larsen WI.

Thank You.

thats some great lookin ground! were still way short on rain down here, looks like you have no shortage haha

Who would’ve thought that kitty litter made good fertilizer?!?! 😂 Good stuff! The Microbes not being destroyed and disturbed is a huge benefit when growing anything. I’m a huge Mycelium and Mycorrhiza/any beneficial Fungi nerd. Here in KY we have some great soil but not as good looking as that black gold of yours, BUT years of No-Till with as many cover crops and regular crops the soil is starting to reform. More worms and less erosion, less pest problems, no weeds (cover crops choke them out) no pesticides/insecticide. Which saves us 1000’s of dollars with more of a profit percentage because of better crops in general. Gabe @ Living Web Farm (something like that) here on RU-vid is who got me started on the change. I was tired of shitty looking hay fields and so much $ into fertilizer/sprays, I hate spraying chemicals. I’m not a tree hugger or anything but knew there was a better way. Great video buddy and sorry for typing a book.... 🤙🏻

Soo, you might be suprised to hear that I just finished up my last food plot planting in the last weekend of Sept. I have had the same issue with the weeds and have found that disking then waiting 2 weeks to do a real light disking to kill the weeds and cover the broadcast seeds will generally give my plots a real good head start before the weeds get up again.

Awesome video for comparisons, have you considered using a backpack sprayer to come in and spray a liquid fertilizer (might be what your no-till plot needs?

Which and how much fertilizer did you apply to the no till plot area? I have a plan for a new plot for spring, summer, fall, and winter. I will do a soil test this winter but just wanted an idea. Great video! Keep it up!

Damn what pretty dirt.

Nice job. Look at that beautiful dirt….I have lots of rocks😡

I read a gardening and launch keeping book from out babe about 15 years ago. It had different chapters on annuals, perennials, and turf. The one thing I took out of it is that she said this and I'll try and quote the best I remember: "You must get rid of all the perennial weeds before you put in a lawn and preferably also a garden." She went on further to say that, even though this would be hard in urban area with the residential codes, to grow wheat until all the bulbs of the weeds that are hard to kill are exhaust or trying to compete with the weed. She even said it may take two seasons. And then I'll give you my first and with receiving a lawn here in urban Chicago the parkway: I think for four years I pulled weeds for four years: some of the weeds are kind of a Woody stem! I was also a much younger and patient man than and I'm not going to do that again at my current age. No till methods or knowledgeable to me at the time as RU-vid was not available at the time either. I did roto-till the parkway before planting the grass seeds. This was more for to get rid of compaction that it was to kill the weeds. As it were, we had a lot of weeds. So what I'm getting around to here is that I want you to grow a winter wheat crap over that weed patch. Wheat posseses a trait called allelopathy: it puts out some sort of chemical substance not understood by scientists that keeps other plants from terminating around it or among it. You can till it in in the spring as green manure. If the water have comes up after this then I suggest another season of wheat and rinse and repeat. Wheat seed isn't very cheap compared to oats but it doesn't require a ton of fertilizer either. May even cost you less if you say that spraying isn't very effective.

1st great video

The weeds also got so bad/tall/thick in my greens plots that I got my brush hog out and mowed my plots about 6 or 7 inches high last week. Wondering if you might try that on your plot to see if mowing will help?

Great video! So you can spray the glypho right over the recently broadcasted seeds?

Tilling opened up the seed bank. That, along with the fertilizing, is why you had so many weeds in the tilled plot. Also, the beans in the no-till plot may have picked up some residual glyphosate. While glyphosate breaks down in 10 days to two weeks, unless those were Roundup ready soybeans, they may have sprouted too early to fully avoid herbicide damage. Recomend spraying out the no-till plot a couple weeks prior to planting to give the glyphosate plenty of time to break down.

Try some foliar fertilizer (spray on). I use the Antler King stuff and it works great.

Awesome video, what is it that you sprayed on the weeds?

you have such amazing soil, not dirt. will only become dirt if you keep tilling it, no till will keep that soil like that, if not better for generations to come!

I've never had the enormity of weeds that you experienced with a late summer tilling. Do you believe it was because you were in a more susceptible spot that was previous had flooding with the influx of that particular type weed? I have a clover plot and want to rotate into brassicas. If I mow and spray I will have way too much dead clover thatch to get the desired seed to soil contact plus I don't believe that I will convert that clover into nitrogen unless I rotate it under. I could til, wait a week and then spray, but I'm running out of time now. Thoughts?

My suggestion if tilled do it 2 to 3 weeks early then when the weeds pop up , burn them it isnt to hard to make a burn rig to go on the tractor or if you have and wood chips that need burning I spread those out after they are pile up and going good , the burn is a plant booster with all the pot ash and char

really beautiful colour. i mean is practically black gold! does it smell like mushrooms?

how did you have so much exposed soil in those tall weeds? was it due to something you did last year? i have an old abandoned plot that is mostly canary grass but there is no exposed soil

you can compost the weeds to create more organic matter rather than adding more chemicals. tilling weeds acts as making compost because the organic material is being digested back under the ground of course concentrating a compost in a dedicated bin better.

What did you spray the weeds with and what ratio

So you used the herbicide the same time you seeded.? I’m missing the part about spraying for weeds and planting.

Had way too much rain to begin with then it went into the drought I just killed a bunch of stuff under and it's rude down winter wheat because I couldn't find any winter Rye hope things work out

so the cultipacker you pulled with the 4 wheeler just mashed it down but didnt kill it right? Acrimper would have pushed it over then killed it as it cuts the plants ciculatory system - then you wouldn't have to spray correct?

Damn black gold

So the weed killer doesn’t kill the seeds off? I don’t have a tiller and have some no till seeds and was going to bush hog a spot and spray weeds then plant. Should I broadcast then bush hog then spray?

Cool video. What county are you in?

I read that if you disk and then wait for the new weed growth to come up, spray the weeds and then plant your seeds without disking again you won’t get as many weeds because your not turning the soil over again. I haven’t tried this just been researching a lot to try and start my first plot. Have you tried that method yet?

Is that a M-F 50 tractor working your field? if it is what year is she? love thy M-F & I still like to see them working ,gas or diesel? thanks for the video.

After you mow is it a crimper what you ride around the no till plot?

You want to kill it off completely, then hook up a burner to the tractor that points down. Turn the burner on and drive over the entire area. It will kill everything including the weeds. A couple of weeks later the weeds will be back so you repeat the process. Then a couple of weeks after that you will have a few weeds, give them an extra week or two to get growing then burn them down again. By doing that you kill the weeds and more weed seeds will start to grow. Then you kill those off again and the few remaining viable weed seeds will try to grow only to be killed yet again. Yes, it is going to cost you some yield to get it done, but it will absolutely kill the weeds off. Alternatively, spread black plastic on the field and plant your crop plants in very specific locations. That way the only place for plants to grow is through the small holes allowed by you. This also causes weed seeds that have yet to grow to try and spout under the plastic. Since they can't reach the sunlight, those sprouts eventually die off and new weed seeds try to grow with the same results. Eventually, the only thing that will grow in the soil is what you've planted. Use the plastic treatment a couple of years in a row and your entire farm will be 100% weed-free. Then all you have to do the following year is plant and then watch for places where birds have dropped seeds and they ave sprouted. Pluck those few weeds by hand and you will maintain weed-free fields.

If you don't have a crimper, can you use a roller? Well it work to kill the buckwheat/rye?

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Can you recommend a brand and concentration of glyphosate? Some of the products at Home Depot and local hardware store advise not to plant seeds for 7-14 days after spraying. Thanks

Could you mow it instead of crushing and spraying the weeds in the no till plot?

Would suggest that you follow GROWING DEER TV, Dr. Grant Wood, he will pout your learning curve on no till at warp speed.btw you proved his teaching with these two areas. Good hunting.

Could you let the weeds come up then kill and then plant without tilling again?

What kind of stuff did you use to spray the weeds?

What are you spraying after you knock down the tall weeds?

any idea how much brassicas seed in the no till plot?

i do a burn down spray before i do any discing. it will look much better if you use 2-4-d and round up mix.

when u till it up ur basically replanting that seed bank. most people who do that til it 3-4x a summer to fight that weed growth and ur basically destroying your toplayer of soil also.

what did you spray the no till yard with?

do you spray round up?

One suggestion for you use animals dum for more growth

What chemical did you use to spray?

Man I’m so damn jealous of your soil. I have 200 acres in hills of West Virginia and once you dig down 1-2” nothing but shale . I made huge mistake 10 years ago by planting 200 fruit trees and 200 berry bushes without thinking much about ground I was putting it in. Big waste of time and money. My dumb ass fault. 😒 duh🤬😱

I always take a cattle panel cut half into and drag with it and it level plus covers the seed and I always have good results. I like to run the packer first and seed then the panel.

What are u spraying .

Wish you had a camera out there, so we could see whats going on

What did you spray with

wouldn't be better to tarp it instead of putting some herbicide? tho it would take more time

How bout those GB packers.

I dont know,much about no till, for me is works better tilling as you mix the weeds and break up the soil a bit and my father allways sayed " need to airate the dirt" sorry to say but,you will never have healty soil if you keep spraying as you kill more then the weeds when the chemical gets in to the ground

you go to all that trouble to create good soil health and then spray down - I don't get it.

He deleted my comment about the health risks of glycospha te. It killed my son but I guess his views are more important.

I was watching and interested right up until music, then I shut off ... bye bye

Tilling wakes up the seed bed. Mother Nature is modest, she likes to be covered. I hate you are putting glyphosate on that gorgeous ground.

Large of land but you don't know how to farm properly

You need to research permaculture... you are wasting your time...

You dont know very much about planting food plots