I play highstakes and this is actually a good check back hand in 4-bet pot. Especially without club in your hand. You protect your checkback range and you either far ahead or far behind. And getting check raised on this kind of board always sucks. You are drawing dead against sets, you are behind of QJ of clubs and you are not getting called by worse with K high board for this size. Check back and evaluate, you dont have much behind, you still can jam some turns and rivers if you want. If you bet this kind of flop and get raised in 4-bet pot, you have to fold AK no club, its a simple decision.
Same here, without looking results and knowing villain is spewy and steaming, I'd just get it in on the flop. So many draws vs possible set, just a bad beat that he had TT this time. Villain might do same with KQo for all we know.
Well he called the 4 bet so I’d say he’s probably 10/10+ or suited broadways only, so when he check raises flop that seemed like set of 10’s to me, or 10x clubs combo draw, so what’s callers equity in that spot? Probably good to call but not jam.
I don't play anymore, but still watch these vids and learn a ton. The one thing I've seen is that if you have these folks that will call all the way down, when they start raising! your antenna should go up. That said, this is a very tough hand to play for the caller.
I think you talking about betting smaller in the results section on flop/preflop you are being results oriented.b Your preflop size was perfect for 5 handed IMO. Your size on the flop made sense too, for the reasons you suggested earlier in the video. There are lots of draws out there for potential straights and flushes. He shows up with a flush draw so much more often than TT here, just unfortunate this was that time.
I had a bad feeling about that hand from jump street. That monster re-raise on the flop was the decision point. It was out of character for villain and he made it clear he was going for stacks. I might have waved the white flag on that one.
If you fold here you actually only defend KK therefore, so no folds lol. Hand plays itself. It's a big one but its a 4! pot against someone whos losing and tilted, play on and win the next one. If villain makes worse decisions than you (he's never folding and vice-versa) you're at worst break even. This is just variance, not a real brain scratcher.
I know this channel is geared towards live player low and mid stake exploits but I thought I'd point out that most of the time solvers will have you flatting AK in position and 4-betting it out of position even more so when you are deep. For example, running this exact scenario through PokerSnowie 4 my only value 4-bet is AA@100% and the only bluff 4-bets are ATs@5% A9s@8% A8s@9% A7s@38% A6s@34% A5s@5% A4s@34% A3s@69% A2S@100% though it would make the 4-bet a bit larger (4,600). This works out to around 12 combos of bluffs and 6 combos of AA.
I think his sizing was actually appropriate given what he knew about his opponent and the large check raise gives more info than a small bet + check raise would have.
I think the check raise on the river is either a signal that villain is going for stacks, or has a good but vulnerable hand against hero’s range (AA, AK). KTs or 66. I was a bit surprised to see a big check raise with TT on that board because hero doesn’t have a ton of draws to beat TT. I think it’s a bad beat, can’t fold top pair on a dry board to every check raise 🤷♂️
1. It’s the flop not the river. 2. How is 66 a “vulnerable hand”? It has AA and especially AK crushed. 3. Folding TPTK on a dry board would make sense. This isn’t a dry board, there’s tons of draws, hence the call.
That 16K raise screams of BLUFF or trips (edit: set). I would maybe call and see if I improve. If not I would definitely check fold. This deep to go all in on 1 pair? Wow. Also hero said villain was calling down so for him to raise after the 5.5K bet is also showing strength.
You can’t call the flop raise and then fold a non-club turn. The only reason to call the flop raise is if you think he has a lot of bluffs on the flop that will continue bluffing on the turn. If he’s got a set (not trips, which is impossible) then “improving” on the turn isn’t going to help you.
I have a buddy who’s a losing player who’d for sure check-raise the flop on the flush draw and/or straight draw on this board, even with the pre-flop action. I for sure would have gotten stacked against him 😂
I’d want to check-raise TT and KT on this board. I feel if you’re check-raising those hands you need to have some bluffs. Obviously raising every straight and flush draw is too much, but you should raise some of the best combo draws right?
Yeah your buddy doesn't play with $50k in front of him though. It's very difficult to x/r at the correct frequency here. You won't find many videos where the 1 pair is actually good in the $100k pot 1000BB pot.
While AK here should be a flop jam or call down in theory, solver is raising sometimes with naked AQ-AJs gutshots, random 6x blocking the set, naked QJs open ender, etc... In these spots even splashy villians probably don't make these kind of bluffs and is probably weighted too strongly towards combo draws making AK a fold.
How else do you play AK, if someone has a set that's just unfortunate whether guy is maniac or tight in which case one should just fold preflol but who does that.
Talk about bloating a pot. Anyways, this hand is very player dependent. But villain has to be a bit laggy for AK to be good when it's check-raised here. Hero is totally uncapped. He 4 bet pre. He has lots of AA, KK, AK in his range. Villain should really have KT, TT, 66 here. But people think AK is magical. Honestly, the only reasonable semi-bluff is QJcc. And AK is not a huge favorite against that. I would not have played this as hero did, but if I had then I'm folding the flop absent some kind of read on villain.
It's good to have high stakes hands on the show. It gives people an idea how to think at different levels and will ultimately make them better players. Plus I enjoy about hearing someone losing almost 50 thousand dollarsm hahab
For what it’s worth this 4 bet is a little wide at 450bb. Unsuited hands go way down in value this deep. Unless we are saying he is just pure tilt and vpiping as a 3bet at a 5x size way to wide. This hand serves as a call most of the time
I think it's generally accepted that most players don't 3bet/ 4bet enough and are too passive. People don't find enough check raises especially not for $45k. And yet so often people seem to get into these ego battles at the table "he's playing back at me" "he's 3betting light" and then are surprised when they run into monsters in every big pot.
Before reveal...Just odd I think people get way to married to AA, KK, and AK post flop...sure maybe he has A10c or QJc but or QQ, JJ but this still feels like 1010 if the guy has a clue but if he's on tilt maybe not. Post reveal....well pretty much as expected...
@@shapeofillusionI’d say AQcc and AJcc are also possible. 66 seems unlikely to call a 4 bet oop. Feels really nitty to fold AK to the flop check raise, but against a lot of players you probably can.
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I am only calling a check raise on the flop here vs a snazzy donkey. most players are never check raising a king/ace high board in a 4 bet pot since your hand looks like AK or better.
no one will respond, but imma put this out there - if you flop Top pair and you have the BEST kicker in the deck, you go big. no? you push these draws and these middle pairs or Qs the heck out of there. if they call or raise then at least you know what they got. am i wrong?
