Pokémon Mystery Dungeon VS. Main Games: The Quality Gap 

The stories in the spinoff series are written very well, I just think the main line has a monopoly on core gameplay mechanics.

I prefer Emerald because i feel is the most perfect of all. But I agree that overall MD series is better.

@@sebastianaliandkulche I like Black and White along with the Sequels more but I respect your opinion, I actually never played through Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, and the Remakes, so I'm currently doing that.

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@Braydon Micah instablaster :)

Last time I played Sky was about 2 years ago, when I was 20. By the time I got to the Grovyle part, I still shed a tear. If I played it again today (which I am planning to very soon), it will once again make me emotional. The story on its own is already reason enough to play these gems, not to mention everything around it. They feel like such complete games and that's a feeling I very rarely have. I get why they're likely not making new parts though, the last one had terrible sales numbers. Might as well spend your money on something else. End of an era... At least we'll still have the existing ones❤ Glad you enjoyed the video😊

@@WordsOfWisdomForReal yeah i tried getting into super mystery dungeon but i just couldnt have fun with it lol. it just didnt feel the same

I completed both super mystery dungeon and gates to infinity. The thing that just doesnt cut it for me is the 3D world. It just ruins the "feel" if u know what I am saying. I felt less involved and attached to the 3D characters

@@WordsOfWisdomForReal the first game if you have Skitty you don't need to prepare just use Sing Double Slap bosses get wrecked.

I love explorers of sky it is a awesome game I think I replayed it maybe 20 or 25 times if you add explorers of darkness , I'm loving the rom hacking scene for explorers of sky, currently playing one that adds more to the post game like a battle with arceas and newer pokemon from later gens also with qol improvements from the newer mystery dungeon games like hold L to bring up your move and press the button to that move.

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Yes the most difficult game was actually super I did a playthrough of it and there is almost no time to grind not to mention the game wants you to break it with items like the yvatal boss fight I just tossed a ban seed after it used oblivion wing otherwise it would wipe everyone out took me 5 years to beat the game because of it

😡 😡 😡 😡🤬🤬🤬😡😠 this is the fifth parking time I've seen you today I love both of these series I played Super Mystery Dungeon to death and unfinished red Rescue Team DX

@@ecliptairedux3281 rope thank you for getting me some determination to finish explorers of Sky cuz to me super was easy and explorers of Sky was hard could literally I use those Wonder Mail codes

Hm.... An idea to redo the video at one point. This one is still pretty good

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Not really the only one who thinks about that though.

Pokémon Legends Arceus will outshine Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Sky as the best Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game.

What

@@candyneige6609 nah it won't. imo the problem of the main series is that it doesn't have any feelings.

@@shirowhite7394 Except that Pokémon Legends Arceus is not a Pokémon mainline game, but it's instead a Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game.

It is by far the best pokémon game and most certainly a top 10 of all time for me. Amazing game

@@WordsOfWisdomForReal The world-building and interaction in the other spin-offs is also leagues above anything GameFreak has ever done. The Ranger series bring ecosystems to life and give personalities to the pokémon.

@@WordsOfWisdomForReal I prefer emerald but Explorers of Sky is so close.

Wait until Pokémon Legends Arceus releases.

@@candyneige6609 Well the story felt like a crap version of PMD1 but it played alright. I even liked Gates more than Legends although I still enjoyed it.

Oh man, you are right. I really love being a Pokemon instead of a Pokemon trainer. This series have much more interesting ideas than the main.

There's actually a theory which states that the origin of these Pokédex entries comes from the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon games, which if true, would mean that the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon games takes place before the Pokémon mainline games, Sinnoh Folk Story 3 supports the theory by saying that there was once a time when humans and Pokémon lived close to each other, ate at the same table together, and even married each other, and that it was normal because there was no differences to distinguish the 2, referring to the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon games, in which, human turned Pokémon are called "humans" and that there was no way to distinguish "humans" from regular Pokémon other than to ask them whether or not they were originally humans, Legends Arceus later reinforced this theory, when it's explicitly stated that this game, which is a Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game by the way, is a prequel to Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl, a Pokémon mainline game, officially confirming that the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon games takes place before the Pokémon mainline games, and thus, this theory becomes very likely to be true.

Pokémon Legends Arceus will replace Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Sky as the best Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game.

In hindsight I even think my own review is very lackluster, but yeah the IGN one is abysmal. All of these ''professional game critics'' dragged PMD through the mud with the worst arguments imaginable, which is quite a shame.

That is incredibly dumb, but simultaneously doesn't suprise me, considering it's Japan. They are so progressive yet so conservative at the same time.

@@WordsOfWisdomForReal www.cero.biz/search/search.cgi?name=%C9%D4%BB%D7%B5%C4%A4%CE%A5%C0%A5%F3%A5%B8%A5%E7%A5%F3&txtCP=

I actually made a seperate video about sky where i said the same thing. The ending is so damn good. None of the other pokémon games is even close in terms of their storylines

Fun fact for anyone reading this, you can 100% abandon temporal tower and the hidden land.

If I was out and I have I use sleep seeds and I usually save reviver seeds throughout the game in storage for that reason the real challenge is palkia or getting to it in spacial rift that place is hard then dark crater so primal dialga isn't the hardest one but maybe that's because I fought this boss to much I used to be a mystery dungeon attic as a kid

You should,imo gates is AMAZING

@@GelatinEater I did actually buy it physically like 2 months after this comment, and ye, it is really good. Sadly I did watch a Lets Play of the game before getting it, wich I now regret :(

@@samsupern6593 I already spoiled Sky the when I was a little kid I was dumb

An then there's Pokémon Legends Arceus, a Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game that absolutely pushed the series to its limits, as it takes place in the Hisui region, which is based on the Sinnoh region from the mainline series, and Hisui has a lot of elements coming from Sinnoh, like the main village of Jubilife Village, which is based on Jubilife City from Sinnoh, and even the Galaxy Expedition Team, which is based on Team Galactic from Sinnoh, just to name a few, and all the while, they removed any humans and replaced them with Pokémon, so that there wouldn't be any human whatsoever, with Grolem being the comander of the Galaxy Expedition Team, Abra being the captain of the Survey Corps of the Galaxy Expedition Team, Pikachu being the one who taught you about the different behaviors that wild Pokémon have, Galarian Farfetch'd being the regional professor, Stoutland being the leader of the Diamond Clan, Liepard being the leader of the Pearl Clan, Kecleon being the merchant, and so on, essentially giving us a "Pokémon DPPt/BDSP but it's a PMD game", and to add the cherry on top, the game is the first Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game to ever have some open world elements, which is what the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon series desperately needs, and one day, we will hopefully have a fully open world Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game.

And now, there's Pokémon Legends Arceus, that Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game completely overshadows Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl.

And they don't die if you don't feed them.

There's a apple pokemon now so in mystery dungeon what happens if you are that pokemon and eat a apple...

Rip gates

@FieryCinderace46 yeah gates is my favorite. The story was even better than explorers imo, but the game was very lacking, making people hate it. Such a shame since ppl passed it just for its rep. Before it wouldve been a waste of money ig, but nowadays its super easy to emulate, so i hope more ppl will try it

Now, there's a new PMD game that just got released earlier this year, and it's called Legends Arceus, did you've played this awesome PMD game ?

Legends Arceus is the best Mystery Dungeon game.

It's like 30% valid, mystery dungeon games sell like shit usually for a reason, and that reason is mostly because gameplay variety.

@@rpgfanatic9719 And as for Legends Arceus, it's a Mystery Dungeon game.

@@candyneige6609 you have issues.

@@rpgfanatic9719 How ?

Megami tensei stories are highly repetitive, the characters are bland, and the only remotely complex gameplay it offers is the recruiting system which is completely different than Pokemon's, therefore I have no idea why you think Pokemon got the idea from SMT. SMT doesn't even let you recruit every enemy, more than that, there was no compendium in early smt games, so you couldn't really bank them. They also couldn't level up and costed money to summon.

And then there's me, I lost all my items after losing to Dialga for the first time and I never went back to get new items and just tried to get back and fight him over and over again and lost time and time again and oftentimes didn't even get to him, until I levelled myself up from LVL 38 to 65 and managed to take out Dialga without any help. I think I climbed that stupid temporal tower a 1000x times. Problem was, afterwards I was so ridiculously overleveled that post-game was super easy and Cresselia got on my nerves so much when it was in my team because she was way weaker than I was. Definitely not the easiest way but still the coolest thing I ever did in a game like this.

@@JuLiane literally happened to me, took ages to beat it as a kid. When you fucked up the first try you need luck to get useful items on your way back to Dialga. During later gameplays I knew what to expect and easily beat it, but damn Dialga penetrated me the very first time.

I just use items to make primal dialga sleep but then again I'm always a riolu in every personality quiz I guess I'm sassy but yeah I bet you could beat him without grinding I know I did

You are all terrible at strategy games, clearly this fanbase is spawned off of kids who play mainline, then never touch competitive or battle facilities.

You can also recruit him by Jirachi granting your wish at the end of Wish Cave. Jirachi will give u a random pokémon u haven't obtained yet. So if Kecleon is the last one you need to recruit, it will give u Kecleon

There's a tierlist within the Mystery Dungeon games : Legends Arceus > Explorers > Super > Rescue Team > Gate to Infinity

Except you don't have to run Purity Forest with all the pokémon for post-game content you still have the legendary birds storyline which leads to Silver Trench/Lugia, the Kyogre storyline which needs you to explore solar cave for Surf, the Spinda storyline (legendary beasts+Ho-Oh), the aftermath of the meteor (Deoxys storyline), the wish cave storyline which leads to Gengar's story... All of that after the postgame, in SS you have nothing to do other than online battling.

@@chavaspada I mean if you think the roster is too small to make online battling less repetitive than that... I mean at least it matters which Pokemon you use how, rather than being able to do anything and win with reviver seeds. And apart from purity forest and joyous tower that rings true for every single thing dungeon!

@@vengeflyking2722 I didn't talk about the roster I was talking about story content, cutscenes and the like, there's literally nothing to do in SS after defeating the royals and capturing Zacian/Zamazenta. Are you really attacking reviver seeds? Considering in Mystery Dungeon you have to find them, in SS you can buy thousands of Max Revives and do the same. And yes, VGC is very overcentralised there's like 20-30 viable pokémon including anti-meta picks and competitive is NOT content considering showdon gives you the same experience for free. Incineroar is almost in half the teams ffs www.pikalytics.com/

@@vengeflyking2722 you can beat mystery dungeon games at level 5, and reviver seeds arent even that good compared to the multiple items that you can get inside the dungeons, like petrify orbs and, if you are playing super mystery dungeon, wands. Can we just talk about the fact that an item that can do the same effect as a seed can be stacked into up to 40 uses, and only use up 1 inventory slot? They're cool but super broken.

I've been defending the lack of post game in main series way too long. I got obsessed with online battles in gen 6 and was fine with the pathetic excuse of a post game. Then they never left that trend. If you aren't a completionist, shiny hunter, or competitive player, newer pokemon games offer NOTHING. Let's also not forget unless you buy the dlc and pay to play online, SS are incredibly incomplete games. Rescue Team DX however offers a full experience and 100+ hours of gameplay easily. I had to force my copy of Sword to get that high and it was really just cause of shiny hunting.

It did fairly ok compared to explorers + original rescue team, but not even close to what a mainline entry sells on average. I think there's a chance they offshore it somewhere, but it won't have any priority whatsoever

The games are harder than the main series, but not THAT hard😂

@@WordsOfWisdomForRealIn terms of the campaigns, they aren't harder than the main series at all. You apply the same strategy of spamming items and taking advantage of your type against the bosses, the only difference is that mainline has a harder post game. The battle facility challenges are harder than any item spammable dungeon in MD. You can prep for every dungeon in MD pretty easily. You explore the dungeon, possibly get killed due to type disadvantage you didn't know about, then bum rush in and rescue yourself with the advantage and finish the dungeon and you're done. In a battle facility there's no second chances, your record is broken losing once, and there are 0 type patterns between fights and no over leveling because you are rounded down to level 50, it is entirely raw turn based strategy.

By the time Legends Arceus takes place, HMs, TMs and TRs are completely phased out and are replaced by move tutoring, implying that Pokémon, for whatever reason, can't make HMs, TMs or TRs on their own, not yet at least, and that those HMs, TMs and TRs were only discovered and must come from somewhere, and that somewhere could actually be space-time distortions, which if true, would mean that HMs, TMs and TRs were actually invented after Legends Arceus, which could just mean 1 year after Legends Arceus at the earliest, so assuming Legends Arceus takes place in 2022, HMs, TMs and TRs would be invented in 2023 at the earliest, i mean, in the human world, it's not rare to see major inventions taking place 1 year after major events (or vice-versa), for instance, the storming of the Bastille took place in 1789, and then just 1 year later, in 1790, the sewing machine was invented, so it's still possible, it's just that it would only be coincidental and would only be as likely as all the other years.

I think DX was them testing the waters to see if people were still interested. Game sold well, so a new game isn't out of the realm of possibilities imo

And a new game did come out, it's called Legends Arceus, and it sold so well that it actually becomes the best selling Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game by a long shot, and people love it so much that it's even more loved than Explorers of Sky, and it's so good that it becomes the best Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game, even better than Explorers of Sky once again, and it's thanks in part to the fact that the game is the first Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game to ever contain some open world elements, opening the door for Pokémon Mystery Dungeon to hopefully become fully open world, meaning we'll hopefully one day get a fully open world Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game.

​@@candyneige6609 PLA and mystery dungeon have nothing to do with each other, I have no idea what you're talking about.

@@philip0544 Why are you saying that Legends Arceus has nothing to do with Mystery Dungeon when Legends Arceus literally is a Mystery Dungeon game ? Either way, i was talking about the best ever Mystery Dungeon game, Legends Arceus. Try it, and you won't be disappointed because you'll quickly understand why Legends Arceus is so good and why so many Mystery Dungeon fans love it.

I agree that PLA is very good, but it isn't mystery dungeon. No one else is saying this. The gameplay isn't the same, the story elements aren't the same, the graphics aren't the same. It's like saying that colosseum is a mystery dungeon game. They're both Pokemon spin offs, and that's where the similarities end.

And eventually Legends Arceus, because it's the best Mystery Dungeon game.

Pokémon Legends Arceus finally makes the jump by becoming the first Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game to ever contain open world elements, it's not fully open world yet, but eventually, we will hopefully get a fully open world Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game.

Yeah I am Dutch lol. I hate the way I pronounce things in this video... Made this one 4 months ago and my speech has improved a bunch ever since imo

@@WordsOfWisdomForReal oh ok you did well!!!!

Thank you man❤

WordsOfWisdomForReal I find your voice/accent a great part about your channel because It’s unique and you’re trying your best

@@BadylirdNot at all, completely fanboying over one series when comparing both is lazy. I'm really pissed off that this wasn't a proper comparison with pros and cons. Even WatchMojo does a better job with videos like this.

Legends Arceus is the best Mystery Dungeon game .

In terms of story it may be debatable with Gen 5, but HGSS along with the OG are terrible designed games.

LA solves both of these problems by having HD graphics for the former one and by having some open world elements for the latter one, which is very important, because we hope that we eventually get a fully open world PMD.

I truly hope so, they haven't got me on board with the trailers so far. Hope I am proven wrong, but I will not get it on release

Legends Arceus isn't even a PMD game tho

@@astracrits4633 Actually it is. In Pokémon Legends Arceus, you play as a Pokémon, a human who got turned into a Pokémon to be exact, just like in other Pokémon Mystery Dungeon games, therefore, Pokémon Legends Arceus is a Pokémon Mystery Dungeon game.

@@candyneige6609 Where in the game do you play as a Pokemon?

@@astracrits4633 Actually, you play as a Pokémon from start to finish.

I remember the one before SMD, sure it was the first game for it's series to go 3d, but the models looked kinda stiff, and i think no matter what anyone says, the fact that they restricted the playable starter pokemon to just be the 3 'newest' starters, pikachu and Axew was shite, and the cruddy dlc that came along afterwards.

@@Timmothy_plays it just lacked pokemon in my opinion like the first games even had ton of legendaries. Until super mystery dungeon there was little of that. Though yeah, guess the 3D models are pretty stiff

@@McGreish Gates to infinity definitely lacks a lot from the previous games, but this was also their transition into 3d, so it gets a pass. Imo the story was pretty good.

I loved gates

@@Timmothy_plays well they should have at least added Evee for girls only and then add like Rilou for boys only and add Squirtle in there because why not and then add Cyndaquil then I would have think we have a not the best lineup but okay lineup

You... don't know about the WiiWare games, do you?

@@gmann215 okay, Gates to Infinity is the weakest game that was released outside of Japan

And yet even then, I'd still rather play it over some of the mainline games...

But Legends Arceus is the strongest of the Mystery Dungeon series.

@@candyneige6609 Is that a joke, I sometimes can't tell if someone is joking or being serious

Their pretty much the same the make assets they place around the map in the mainline and they is replaced with robots in MD but what matters is gameplay