Poker Hands - Fedor Holz Makes Moves In The Main Event 

Hahaha I died xD

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Sometimes it is. Sometimes your subconscious brain works better than your conscious mind magnifying what if’s.

Must be first Time He right about something

Janoy Cresva Only if they’re playing at Stones 😉

SOUL READS. HE'S A GOD. IT'S LIKE HE CAN SEE THE CARDS.

we should start a kickstarter campaign to get Postle into the 2020 Main.

@@richpanini5295 the ratings would be through the roof!

Mark Greenhowe if only he didnt have a daughter hed be able to leave the sacramento area and take the poker throne.

He obviously means short term, mainly just single hands in a vacuum, making the statement funny and true.

+Adam Seaquist - You get it

if you watch the whole thing, de silva says things like "fedor is special tho". he knows he can have those bluffs and, frankly, he's getting good odds on the call. i bet you he wouldn't call this against anyone else on this table

He wasn't sure what to do he knew he was against a Federline

Eduardo Seifert exactly, played the player not the hand.

jarretman!

Oh you mean a practical poker player. Who ever heard of that one? :)

The German pro player tax is real

I think his entire 'retirement' was a ploy to let him continue to play the $1M one for one drop tourny, which no longer allowed pro players lol

@@Steezy93 Is there any evidence he even tried to play in that?

@@Dreamagain11 I dont know, but his 'retirement' was announced by him with a cheeky smile on his face when asked by a pokernews reporter what his thoughts were on the big one for one drop banning full time pro players... go figure

Hard to say how much time passed with this being edited. Clock still running and blinds going up while this guy tanking forever. So no, not really a dick move. dude was probably in the tank for 4+ minutes

I actually thought the staring (pretending to be strong)made him look like he had a weak hand. If you are really strong you want him to call so you don’t pretend to be strong.

Alex Padilla Would he have called if holz went all-in on the river? What would you say.

mabye just fishy not insane ...

@@daithio.7378 holz did go all in the river, he covered De Silva.

Rekke Nice one, I had to think how did u know, the pot ,when de silva went all-in ✌️📸✌

Go out now or try and survive on 19BB? I'm with de Silva. If I'm out I'm out. I've already committed too much of my stack not to call all rivers.

He was tanking for 5+ minutes, it was more than reasonable to call clock

Dude the clock is running on all of them. I love clock calls always. More hands

Was actually 17 mins of thinking

It just seems that way because they edited out the five minutes of tanking so that it makes better T.V. Negreanu has to play some hands if he wants to go deep in the main; other tables aren't waiting for de Silva to finish thinking.

Mathemagical55 Agreed. Pros gets miffed when an amateur calls the clock but it’s ok for the pros to do it? It’s a grey area. They should probably have a max time to make a decision in all tournaments, 2 or 3 minutes is sufficient.

TheSnowdolphin If he folded, he would have still had an above average stack. Was a terrible call

Donald Rockett Easy call. I used to pay my rent calling down bluffs like this...

dabearcub Yeah Ive analyzed it more. Yall are right. Just tough spot for pretty much main event life. Cash game, snap call. But yeah.

Donald Rockett I’ll say this, knowing Fedor I don’t envy anyone playing against him-but the call on the river was the easiest play of that hand.

As a beginner, assuming your playing 1/2, this is not analyses that will help. People don't bluff.

And I think anyone would be a fool to dog you for folding there. The analysis shed a lot of light on the logic behind that call but it was still only something a psychopath would do...

He can call because Fedor is a good player capable of bluffing his stack know it's impossible to call with one pair.. Against better players I tend to call big bets with weaker hands and against crap players I usually fold to their aggression on boards like this cos they're never making a move.

Probably because the video is from ESPN, and can copyright claim it... (IDK about fair use tho)

Oh wait some people hear it well :(

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Lucas Röder thanks. I will ace my test now :)

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Take your time. You gotta learn to walk before you can run before you can fly.

SMG 1993 ...yeah, I imagine fedor was busy doing a similar amount of analysing during the hand but he still lost....bring back ABC poker.

but flop is pretty wet and even sets are vulnerable so I'd probably look to x/c AA and x/r JJ/88 and with 8d8x I might be inclined to x/c more but I'm probably not 3betting 88 OOP preflop too often, if at all. I think its a good strategy to have a few combmos which x/r the flop and some which x/c flop then x/r the turn but stack size is too shallow on the river after Villain bets the turn so definitely don't slow play any AA on the turn since again, it only has a x/c or lead OTR. Villain can't punish you with an overbet on the river if you don't have any really strong hands to disincentivize them to do so since they don't have the stack depth for it. The only reason to x/c flop and turn with sets would be that if Villain knew our strategy OTR of checking some sets it might assist our bluffcatchers in increasing their showdown value (since villain won't value bet as thinly) but determining how often if at all Hero should do this is something to be left for computers to determine.

I don't think AJ or A10s 3-bets preflop. U are right De Silva basically tells Fedor he has AK. Maybe Fedor should check the turn so he can easier jam the river? But I guess he has to take a stab already on the turn. He knows he is behind but 8, 7 or diamond doesnt come too often. On the turn he is already repping something like a straight or two pair and has to go for it one the river too.

and does K10 really check the turn to trap on a board that has that many draws? Seems like you would want to get value before a card like a 9 or a diamond or a K hit? Plus if you have AK and call you should be calling most bluff catchers which are all hands you take this line with right/? Holz does look incredibly nervous after the bet, on the close ups you can what appears to be a neck tell.

Fedor isn't raising any of those hands from the LJ. So no, he can't have them.

I was looking in the comment section for something on that, too.

Might be so but in this hand No Luck involved.

or pocket tens. He called flop with bottom pair and turned it in to a bluff on turn, so i can clearly see him doing so with tens, especially with double gutter.

You got good point, but I think one other point he missed and you is great pot odds he have to call .He needed to be right around 23%+ in this spot to call.

yeah that's a good point, but the fact that hes out of the tournament if he loses also imo has a big effect on the decision, somewhat going against that. Also if he sells action the loss of future investors for making such a perceived to be terrible call is another one going against him. ;).

If Fedor had one of his value combo's here I feel like everyone would be more able to look at the hand logically and state that it's clearly a terrible call. The fact that he ran into one of his couple bluff combo's makes everyone consider that it might be a good call, when really hes just got extremely lucky unless he had a live read, which, lets be honest here, cant really be taken as fact from the only person on earth who would have a bias towards him in fact having a live read in order to take the pressure of playing badly off of him. imo.

So he flats the 3bet with 87s, but not 86? Yeah. okay. "if he loses also imo has a big effect on the decision" so is playing scared money. Dude do you know what you're talking about?

yeah its possible he does in fact have 86s in his actual range, was simply saying I dont think we should make a call based on that assumption as most people likely wont have 86s in their range here and I dont see he could know for sure that Fedor does have 86s here. Even given that though I still think on this river its probably a fold with this combo (Kc). I think this would definitely be a fold in cash games, im just saying that if I think its a close decision im more likely to fold in a tournament than in cash, so that I can still be in the tournament when im wrong with 19bbs. Especially given that this is the main event which is an extremely high value tournament.

The thing is, DeSilva is close to the top of his range here, he likely bets 2pairs, sets, straights and fds on the turn (though checking KT with flush blockers might be good) so if he's always folding he almost always folds letting Holz just go to town on him

Interesting point. But I think he can check stronger hands on the turn to a very aggressive player. So is not at the top of his range. I think he can check all sets if he thinks Fedor will barrel his draws on turn and river. And wants to keep Fedor's range wide. If he is playing hyper aggressive and has weak holdings. ____________________________ On the other hand, if you player the game the other way. Once he calls the turn. What is the weakest hand he get arrive at the river with? And fold? If you argued he is at the bottom of his range. What is his weakest/strongest holding to check/fold the river with? What is he going to fold if AK is a call? What else peels the turn then folds on a Ten worse than AK. I think there is an argument to say it is the only hand he has. He could have A7/A6/A5/A4/A3/A2 I suppose but with the 3 bet sizing I just doubt it when he knows he is going post flop against arguably the best Hold'em player in the universe. I doubt he is that balanced in this situation. KQ/KJ seems a bit bad of a selection to 3 bet. Since they play well postflop. KJ of hearts may play this way which is a 1/1400 combination and an unlikely 3 bet. Just saying. KQ can call the turn, I suppose and then fold. KJ likewise. ______________________________ Having said that - although, an interesting exercise. Thinking of it the other way. Is kind of the only relevant way since he has to beat Fedor's range and if Fedor has more value than bluffs - it is kind of irrelevant if it is the worst or best holding in De Silva's range. If he only arrives with AK - he is not being exploited if Fedor has more value combos than bluffs. + Think he certainly does at the price offered. Opt for 8% of the pot then it becomes close (remembering suited combinations and unsuited value of AJ/AQ these combos increase 5 times as many). 5% of the pot maybe with ICM we can call. I just think we are being too ambitious and got so lucky here in De Silva's shoes.

Not all the time but some % of the time I think he can have a hand like a set.

I didn't notice the Size Fedor had behind when I made the comment. I agree he is at the top of his range

Anything stronger possibly C/R all in.

Lesson to Fedor and rest off the world if You bluff someone South American make it for their turnament life.

lol you noticed that too huh. "BuDdY dId yOu liEk iT wHeN I caLLeD teH cLoCk"

Do you even know the rules? Any player can call clock. However only after a reasonable amount of time has past. Now this was edited down and actual time and Silva tanked for 10 minutes